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Looks like the Government is taking over your country too Trollax. Super suck. As far as I know the stupid No Gay Marriage ammendment hasn't gotten very far here, but it's probably only a matter of time.

But fear not, those of we ordained by Universal Life Church can perform legally binding wedding's, and I imagine most of us don't give a shit aboutthe gender of the two parties. Of course the government can refuse to recognize the ceremonies we perform, but we can still perform them dammit!

This is some of the least disgusting (male) cosplay I've ever seen.

Thank you.  Sorry the picture is so blurry, I don't have a digital camera and my webcam (my Uncle's) isn't that good at a distance.

HAW! Just wait til I get back from GenCon with pictures of me as FFX-2 Rikku! Bwahahahaha!

My only argument with gays were that they were not fulfilling the sole biological imperative of their species: reproduction. Donated sperm or eggs did not qualify since half of the DNA had to come from outside the relationship; they were not passing on their merged DNA. However, scientists have recently been able to create a mouse from the eggs of two females, so it is only a matter of time before they can do the same for humans. (Wait, that means men will become superfulous. Oh dear.)

That's my only objection too, except I look at it from a more symbolic view. But, it's not like the world needs anymore people, so they perform a valuable service by not having children. Yay for no children.

IM THE CAFFEINATRIXX!!
I take coffee very verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry seriously
so when I say for the love of coffee, Im serious in my request for no more metaquotes

*cowers in fear* i...wasnt...metaquoting....it was the gnome! Forgive me for sharing a state with him.

please for the love of coffee, STOP THE METAQUOTES

How dare you take Coffee's name in vain!?

yes, but as he pointed out in a speech, what's wrong with making some money off of what you love? Why should counterculturals be reduced to sitting around posting weirdness on the internet and getting nothing? His site does have lots of cool stuff on magick and conspiracy theories, it's more comprehensive than some weirdo in his basement could have done. I dont' trust him completely, but he doesn't deny that he is interested in making a buck off of his interests.

One of the big problems with counterculturals is that they are very very cliquey. Y'all are more than happy to scream sellout on anyone who is tired  of living a modest-poor lifestyle. The indie rock scene is just as bad. Have you seen the Disinfo TV series? It's a slick package, which will anger many CCs, and it has it's tongue just digging into it's cheek flesh. It's actually pretty funny. (and the 2nd disc is more than worth the price.)

Of course you can't trust Metzger anymore than you can trust Crowley, but he makes a better icon for the counterculture than most of it's members.

Every year myself and my alter-egoes give out, among many other awards, the Tin Phallus Award for the biggest cocksucker in American politics. Past winners have been Admiral Poindexter, President Bush, Ken Starr, etc. That being said, we are proud to award THIS year's Tin Phallus to Senator RICK SANTORUM! For being the most amazing queer-hating politician I think we have right now. His erm...valiant attempts to make sure that marriage stays between one man and one woman and for giving us delightful MonstersUndertheBeds stories about what Gay Marriage will do to society. (Encourage incest and beastiality, turn all of our children into crackheads. Gay marriage will rape your mother and sell hardcore pornography to your baby sister, will bring hellfire and brimstone pouring from the sky, raise your taxes, mutilate cattle, milk your cats, etc.)

Congrats Rick, for being such as asshole. Now lets show ya what gay men like to do to assholes. *shoves the award up his ass. applause for rick as he walks offstage with a funny gait.*

Maybe the best option is expatriation, but somehow I think the rabid nationalism that gave rise to the nazi party in germany wont work here, at least not quietly.

I may be missing what you said, but it sounds to me as if you think Americans aren't rabidly nationalistic.

If so, please excuse me while I give you an incredulous look for as long as it takes my mind to stop boggling.

Yes, many americans are rabidly nationalistic, but there is also a lot of counterculture that exists in america. Its not quite so easy to lump americans into one huge group that can all agree, because its quite the opposite.

So give someone else the silly look.

counterculture in america is manufactured adn packaged by the same folk whos brought you the establishment(tm).

This is the correct answer.

I dont believe that.

I do believe that humans are inherantly ignorant and selfish.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that America is diverse enough that once any group establishes any form of control, you'll have plenty of others moving to knock them down and occupy the leftover space.

I don't think a blanket statement declaring all counterculturals establishment is totally fair. I'm not so sure what to think about Richard metzger and his Disinfo company, but he's charming if nothing else and has a Crowlean appeal to him, but I take everything his website says with a grain of salt.

I think being counterculture is usually kind of silly myself, but whatever lights your fire.

roger..  you are some sort of master that sees through human nature..  i'm reading and posting this after i read #5.

i'm going to be extra sure to cause chaos on my way across the country this next week.

if there ever were a reason for wanton destruction, that would be it.

kim

You, too, can be a master.  It's really simple...Just assume the worst in people.

This will help you see through the bullshit.  Like liberals demanding PC speech, or conservatives peddling their supply-side snake oil.

Human nature?  Easy...we are jumped-up monkeys, with just enough intelligence to be dangerous.

Sometimes we even have enough intelligence to be kind decent and civil. SOMETIMES.

I don't know what the problem is. Rumsfeld might, but the man sits in his tower and doesn't give a shit, because he doesn't HAVE to give a shit. And he'll be back for another 4 years, unless "something" happens to him. *blows out the candles on a birthday cake, wishing to Bohr*

Rabbid nationalism is hard to deal with. Hell, after 911 I was in favor of bombing the shit out of anything and everything. (But in my defense, I was only like 15 and pretty dumb, a conservative product of homeschooling who halfway trusted the government.) I mean, people like us have no real say, we're a minority. Sure there are plenty Michael Moore anti-Bushers out there, but I don't think too highly of Moore. He doesn't seem much brighter than Rush Limbaugh. Sure Shrub may loose this November, but what does it change? We;ll just have another establishment whore in place.

Perhaps the issue is enducation, but how do you educate against nationalism when nationalism is the policy? You get drummed out of the Teacher's Lounge and loose access to the coffee machine, and maybe your job.

I guess all we can do is stick to fucking around with people and making the best of what we're given and doing whatever we can to make things better. sigh.

To quote from one of my favorite films, M*A*S*H:
"Goddamn army."

I wish this suprised me, but it doesn't. I've loathed the military for awhile now, and this doesn't seem too suprising. Disgusting, repulsive, sickening, inhuman and vile yes. Suprising, nope. Not in the least. How can you expect a bunch of brainwashed killers, people trained to drop fiery death from the sky onto civilians, how can you expect these people to be civil? The whole goddamn army is a goddamn disgusting spectacle. These kiddy molestors are just the ones they've caught. Anyone here who doubts that Iraqi women and young girls have been raped by US soldiers, raise your hand.

The whole military is a sick obscene mess. Nesesarry? I have my doubts, but no matter what you do, soldiers always are always have been and always will be trained killers. Nothing more, and nothing less. Sugarcoat it all you want, but they are trained to put bullets into people and drop fiery death from the heavens. They are thugs.

The Good Reverend was Army (infantry) for 10 years, and never saw that kind of shit.  This problem is top-down.

You can just fuck off, stereotype-boi.

To where shall I fuck off sir?

Apologies on the stereotyping. Mind clouded by irrational hatred.

To quote from one of my favorite films, M*A*S*H:
"Goddamn army."

I wish this suprised me, but it doesn't. I've loathed the military for awhile now, and this doesn't seem too suprising. Disgusting, repulsive, sickening, inhuman and vile yes. Suprising, nope. Not in the least. How can you expect a bunch of brainwashed killers, people trained to drop fiery death from the sky onto civilians, how can you expect these people to be civil? The whole goddamn army is a goddamn disgusting spectacle. These kiddy molestors are just the ones they've caught. Anyone here who doubts that Iraqi women and young girls have been raped by US soldiers, raise your hand.

The whole military is a sick obscene mess. Nesesarry? I have my doubts, but no matter what you do, soldiers always are always have been and always will be trained killers. Nothing more, and nothing less. Sugarcoat it all you want, but they are trained to put bullets into people and drop fiery death from the heavens. They are thugs.

Geezus, some of the replies here have been greyer than the mid-february slush of Indiana.

Kudos Rog. Very insightful set of STRICT UNBENDABLE GUIDLINES THAT ALL DISCORDIANS MUST FOLLOW IF THEY WANT ROG TO LOVE THEM, COS HE IS A HORRIBLE BAD MAN AND A TYRANT OF CHAOS, or at least that's how some people *coughpenumbralcough* seem to see it.

And fuck you you fucking heretic fuck shit damn cunt bitch whore bastard piss etc etc.

Seriously though, very good.

I think the Illuminati are supplying the pies to encourage Discordian infighting. (if only they knew that no encouragement is needed...)

WHAT THE HELL, SON?

THAT, my friend, IS THE HELL! THAT RIGHT THERE -->.<---

I think the Illuminati are supplying the pies to encourage Discordian infighting. (if only they knew that no encouragement is needed...)