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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Suu on May 25, 2011, 03:43:28 PM

Title: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Suu on May 25, 2011, 03:43:28 PM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/sophomore-threatened-with-rape-for-criticisms-of-michele-bachmann

QuoteThe reaction to Myers' letter has been nothing short of terrifying.

"A lot of them are calling me a whore," Myers said of anonymous. Amy and her father said the comments from conservative websites alarmed them most. Some commenters threatened to publish her home address. Others threatened violence. Some threatened rape.

Because she criticized the Tea Party goddess.

"They're targeting me just because I'm challenging Bachmann," Amy said.

It doesn't matter that Bachmann won't debate her. Nor are the facts pointed to by Myers important. It doesn't matter that Bachmann, the Tea Party's alleged constitutional expert is wrong about the constitution and that a 16-year-old high school student is right. What matters is that you can't criticize the Tea Party.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 04:03:19 PM
Creepy! These people have never heard of the moral high ground, apparently, and if they have they seem to have an aversion to standing on it.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Juana on May 25, 2011, 04:11:18 PM
The party of family values all right. Poor girl. :(
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 25, 2011, 04:22:33 PM
Judging from what I regularly read on far right blogs I'm not particularly surprised by this.
In my none-expert opinion she doesn't really have anything to fear from assholes on the Internet (and this is going to sound very cynical) for the simple fact she's white and probably non-Muslim.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cain on May 25, 2011, 05:58:18 PM
And to attack her, rightwing bloggers would have to leave their basements or, when they do, soup up their Rascals so they can speed up to catch a 16 year old girl.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 25, 2011, 05:58:18 PM
And to attack her, rightwing bloggers would have to leave their basements or, when they do, soup up their Rascals so they can speed up to catch a 16 year old girl.

:lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 08:37:43 PM
Over at CG, there's at least one loony tune saying that she deserves it.   :lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 25, 2011, 08:45:13 PM
I'd love to hear what Bachmann has to say regarding her followers saying these things.  I really would.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
(http://nerdfit.com/wp-content/uploads/Consequences.jpg)


Can anybody find the article in question on cnn.com? I'd like to take a peek at the comments. I suspect they're not that startling relative to other vitriol in the blogosphere. I do like the tactic though - get a 16 year old girl to be the mouth piece for an incendiary diatribe, so people who retaliate in the expected way will look like total jerkwads.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:02:00 PM
Does that excuse said jerkwads?  I mean, even IF she was put up to this (God knows nobody has a political thought before age 30), does that mean their actions were excusable, therefore this is all her own fault?

Because if it's suddenly okay to do shit like this to people who disagree with you, I'm going to make life a living hell for the teabagger across the road, and sleep like a baby.

RACE

TO

THE

BOTTOM
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Freeky on May 25, 2011, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:02:00 PM
Does that excuse said jerkwads?  I mean, even IF she was put up to this (God knows nobody has a political thought before age 30), does that mean their actions were excusable, therefore this is all her own fault?

Because if it's suddenly okay to do shit like this to people who disagree with you, I'm going to make life a living hell for the teabagger across the road, and sleep like a baby.

RACE

TO

THE

BOTTOM

NO FAIR YOU'VE GOT A HEAD START
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:02:00 PM
Does that excuse said jerkwads?  I mean, even IF she was put up to this (God knows nobody has a political thought before age 30), does that mean their actions were excusable, therefore this is all her own fault?

Because if it's suddenly okay to do shit like this to people who disagree with you, I'm going to make life a living hell for the teabagger across the road, and sleep like a baby.

RACE

TO

THE

BOTTOM

WHOOOOOOO!!!! IT'S A LONG WAY DOWN BUT WE'RE GOING SO FAST!
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 25, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
(http://nerdfit.com/wp-content/uploads/Consequences.jpg)


Can anybody find the article in question on cnn.com? I'd like to take a peek at the comments. I suspect they're not that startling relative to other vitriol in the blogosphere. I do like the tactic though - get a 16 year old girl to be the mouth piece for an incendiary diatribe, so people who retaliate in the expected way will look like total jerkwads.


http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-603375

Only 3 comments posted here, no threats.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:20:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:02:00 PM
Does that excuse said jerkwads?  I mean, even IF she was put up to this (God knows nobody has a political thought before age 30), does that mean their actions were excusable, therefore this is all her own fault?

Because if it's suddenly okay to do shit like this to people who disagree with you, I'm going to make life a living hell for the teabagger across the road, and sleep like a baby.

RACE

TO

THE

BOTTOM

WHOOOOOOO!!!! IT'S A LONG WAY DOWN BUT WE'RE GOING SO FAST!

It's easy, really.  We just assume that this was all engineered by some shadowy lefty group, and this poor girl was the bait. 

This has the added benefit of reminding people to keep their mouths shut & get back to work.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:22:42 PM
Who's excusing anybody? I'm just surprised that people being assholes on the internet is even news. Internet comments are cheap and people say the most vile shit possible when they're anonymous... But if the person they're responding to is 16, you have the opportunity to GET OUTRAGED AND MAN THE HARPOONS. If being 16 really shields you from assholes, then we should all being posting as 16 year old girls.  :lol:

Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:22:42 PM
Who's excusing anybody? I'm just surprised that people being assholes on the internet is even news. Internet comments are cheap and people say the most vile shit possible when they're anonymous... But if the person they're responding to is 16, you have the opportunity to GET OUTRAGED AND MAN THE HARPOONS. If being 16 really shields you from assholes, then we should all being posting as 16 year old girls.  :lol:

It was verified precisely who she is, by CNN.

But okay.  I'm going to take this new paradigm and run with it.   :lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 25, 2011, 09:32:42 PM
A few articles say that the comments she's talking about were posted on Tea Party blogs.

Them, I'm not gonna sludge through.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: Luna on May 25, 2011, 09:32:42 PM
A few articles say that the comments she's talking about were posted on Tea Party blogs.

Them, I'm not gonna sludge through.

Who cares?  Blatant intimidation is now part of the political process again!  We haven't had THAT in 50 years...And it's not even restricted to race!  It's anyone you disagree with.

I am SO DOWN with this.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
I don't really understand how "people are assholes on the internet" makes it so we shouldn't criticize or condemn people who to threaten to rape a young teenager because of her political beliefs.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 25, 2011, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:22:42 PM
Who's excusing anybody? I'm just surprised that people being assholes on the internet is even news. Internet comments are cheap and people say the most vile shit possible when they're anonymous... But if the person they're responding to is 16, you have the opportunity to GET OUTRAGED AND MAN THE HARPOONS. If being 16 really shields you from assholes, then we should all being posting as 16 year old girls.  :lol:



I threaten to rape 16 year old girls all the time.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
I don't really understand how "people are assholes on the internet" makes it so we shouldn't criticize or condemn people who to threaten to rape a young teenager because of her political beliefs.

BECAUSE YOU
         
             Are hopelessly 20th Century in your thinking

AND

             It's all in good fun.



I am going to use this idea in the next election.  I'm willing to bet that I can stir up some GOOD antics on the North side.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:38:42 PM
All I have to do is look up the law on "inciting a riot", and make sure MY actions stay on this side of the line.

POPCORN FOR EVERYBODY!
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 09:44:35 PM
IT'S GONNA BE A BUMPY RIDE!
                          \
(http://www.glentathlon.co.uk/Images/soapbox9.jpg)
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 25, 2011, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

No joke.  The crap I see some of the kids I know post on Facebook alone is enough to make me cringe.  (You're JOB HUNTING, you think they're not gonna CHECK?  Learn to privacy, idiot.)
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, here's the payoff:  She won't do it again, will she?  Lesson learned.  Open your mouth, live in fear.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, here's the payoff:  She won't do it again, will she?  Lesson learned.  Open your mouth, live in fear.

Yeah, that seems like a stunningly inappropriate comparison.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 25, 2011, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, here's the payoff:  She won't do it again, will she?  Lesson learned.  Open your mouth, live in fear.

Reference was to a wild rumor that Rebecca Black (who is, IIRC, 13) is pregnant, with all the assorted name-calling that would bring out in the uptight.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: on May 25, 2011, 09:51:30 PM
Lately the violent rhetoric amongst the base in the right has become more pronounced. Bad Cop has been particularly vitriolic as of late.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:51:46 PM
And I hope this is a lesson to all the other 16 year olds out there:

Shut up.  Don't get involved.  Keep your head down...The nail that sticks up gets the hammer.

Because that's what America™ is all about, and I - for one - applaud this.  We don't need random citizens jamming their stupid faces in our government, do we?  No, we elected them, and they can do whatever they want, and shouldn't have to take any guff from some pimple-faced retard who just took a "civics" class.

Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 25, 2011, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people


Wait are you saying, kid's aside, women who can't handle death and rape threats shouldn't post anything political, or anything of that matter, online?
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Child wrote a letter to a politician.

Child got smacked down by Bachmann's fans on the internet.

One more person who won't ever get involved in politics.

Thus endeth the lesson.  "Keep your opinions to yourself, asshole."
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:56:36 PM
Point of the article was "Kids, don't let this happen to you.  For God's sake, shut up."
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Child wrote a letter to a politician.

child's father posted letter on cnn.com

where it would be x-posted on tea-party blogs and forums and receive comments and criticisms

some of those comments and criticisms were badwrong, but you have to expect that's going to happen when you communicate via mass media.

I'm not saying that people should live in fear of harsh feedback, I'm saying that when you hold up a megaphone, you should be prepared for people to shout back too

Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 25, 2011, 09:59:10 PM
I'll rape anyone who disagrees with me
:argh!:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Child wrote a letter to a politician.

child's father posted letter on cnn.com

where it would be x-posted on tea-party blogs and forums and receive comments and criticisms

some of those comments and criticisms were badwrong, but you have to expect that's going to happen when you communicate via mass media.

I'm not saying that people should live in fear of harsh feedback, I'm saying that when you hold up a megaphone, you should be prepared for people to shout back too



Sure.  She only got what she deserved.  2/3rds do, sooner or later.

And like I said, this will be one - two, actually - people who will learn to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP, and that's what we're all about, here in The Church™ and in America™.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 25, 2011, 10:08:03 PM
This reminds me when Glenn Beck's followers threatened to kill that 70 year old sociologist earlier this year for something she wrote in the 60's
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2011, 10:10:21 PM
I'm going to threaten to rape every teenager who posts something political. The only real question is do I threaten to kill them before or after the rape.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Child wrote a letter to a politician.

child's father posted letter on cnn.com

where it would be x-posted on tea-party blogs and forums and receive comments and criticisms

some of those comments and criticisms were badwrong, but you have to expect that's going to happen when you communicate via mass media.

I'm not saying that people should live in fear of harsh feedback, I'm saying that when you hold up a megaphone, you should be prepared for people to shout back too



Right

and if I hold up a megaphone announcing my intent to rape each and every one of you, I should reasonably expect to receive a response in kind.

The issue is that members of the Tea Party are openly using threats of violence to quell opposing political opinions.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2011, 10:38:21 PM
It's the New America™. He who screams the rudest and the loudest wins.

Isn't there laws against that kind of shit? Seriously, threatening to rape a child is.....(speechless)
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Miss Demeanor on May 25, 2011, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Child wrote a letter to a politician.

child's father posted letter on cnn.com

where it would be x-posted on tea-party blogs and forums and receive comments and criticisms

some of those comments and criticisms were badwrong, but you have to expect that's going to happen when you communicate via mass media.

I'm not saying that people should live in fear of harsh feedback, I'm saying that when you hold up a megaphone, you should be prepared for people to shout back too



Sure.  She only got what she deserved.  2/3rds do, sooner or later.

And like I said, this will be one - two, actually - people who will learn to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP, and that's what we're all about, here in The Church™ and in America™.

Or she'll learn to stand firm for her beliefs no matter what. 
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: Miss Demeanor on May 25, 2011, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Child wrote a letter to a politician.

child's father posted letter on cnn.com

where it would be x-posted on tea-party blogs and forums and receive comments and criticisms

some of those comments and criticisms were badwrong, but you have to expect that's going to happen when you communicate via mass media.

I'm not saying that people should live in fear of harsh feedback, I'm saying that when you hold up a megaphone, you should be prepared for people to shout back too



Sure.  She only got what she deserved.  2/3rds do, sooner or later.

And like I said, this will be one - two, actually - people who will learn to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP, and that's what we're all about, here in The Church™ and in America™.

Or she'll learn to stand firm for her beliefs no matter what. 

She might. And all the other kids who hear about it might, too.

But that doesn't make it OK.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.

I would rather get rape threats. Please include recent photos and a short bio.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:18:47 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I guess I'm unclear about what you ARE saying. What's the complaint you're making, exactly?
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.

Requia, once again being both pedantic and missing the point at the same time.  :roll:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 25, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.

I would rather get rape threats. Please include recent photos and a short bio.

It's not about the type or severity of the threat. It's about the context which elicited the threat. Physical threats are being used increasingly as a political silencer.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 25, 2011, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 25, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.

I would rather get rape threats. Please include recent photos and a short bio.

It's not about the type or severity of the threat. It's about the context which elicited the threat. Physical threats are being used increasingly as a political silencer.

I know, was just having a smartass moment.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Phox on May 25, 2011, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.
Horseshit. We aren't talking about "the wrong parts of the internet". We're talking about political bloggers. People who, in theory, should be held to a higher standard than a youtube comment thread. It's a good thing that there isn't a history of violence associated with the Tea Party.... oh wait...
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:31:54 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 25, 2011, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 25, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.

I would rather get rape threats. Please include recent photos and a short bio.

It's not about the type or severity of the threat. It's about the context which elicited the threat. Physical threats are being used increasingly as a political silencer.

I know, was just having a smartass moment.

You were funny.  :lulz: I just didn't want to directly rebut Requia's dumbass pedantry, so I got around it by talking to you instead.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 12:04:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 25, 2011, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.
Horseshit. We aren't talking about "the wrong parts of the internet". We're talking about political bloggers. People who, in theory, should be held to a higher standard than a youtube comment thread. It's a good thing that there isn't a history of violence associated with the Tea Party.... oh wait...


The article would disagree with you there.   :lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Phox on May 26, 2011, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 12:04:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 25, 2011, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.
Horseshit. We aren't talking about "the wrong parts of the internet". We're talking about political bloggers. People who, in theory, should be held to a higher standard than a youtube comment thread. It's a good thing that there isn't a history of violence associated with the Tea Party.... oh wait...


The article would disagree with you there.   :lulz:
Ever hear of censoring comments?

ETA: Those sorts of sites tend to do it all the time, when they don't agree with what you have to say.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Telarus on May 26, 2011, 01:24:29 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 25, 2011, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people


Wait are you saying, kid's aside, women who can't handle death and rape threats shouldn't post anything political, or anything of that matter, online?

I don't see where this interpretation of Cram's posts are coming from. Cram is examining the emergent phenomena of this child getting huge amounts of attention from a certain slice of the internet population, and comparing it to similar emergent phenomena (Hide Ya Kids, Hide Ya Wife!). That the attention is negative, and definitely undeserved, Cram takes as a given. But, "A Conclusion is simple where you stopped thinking" etc etc. He's looking for interesting patterns _below_ the level of "fuck those guys for messing with a 16yr old".

He's looking for trends, and therefore has to be slightly emotionally un-invested WHILE DOING THAT. That many of you read this as possible callousness is interesting.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cramulus on May 26, 2011, 01:38:04 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:18:47 PM
I guess I'm unclear about what you ARE saying. What's the complaint you're making, exactly?

:?
I'm not complaining or disagreeing with anybody. I'm just making an observation about something I think is interesting.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:43:06 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 26, 2011, 01:38:04 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 11:18:47 PM
I guess I'm unclear about what you ARE saying. What's the complaint you're making, exactly?

:?
I'm not complaining or disagreeing with anybody. I'm just making an observation about something I think is interesting.

Hm. It came across more like criticism than like observation, just so you know.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Telarus on May 26, 2011, 01:49:25 AM
I'd also like to point out that Rog also nailed an underlying trend:

That it has now become "acceptable" within certain circles to threaten a child with rape to shut her up and intimidate others from speaking their political views.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 02:08:06 AM
Quote from: Miss Demeanor on May 25, 2011, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Child wrote a letter to a politician.

child's father posted letter on cnn.com

where it would be x-posted on tea-party blogs and forums and receive comments and criticisms

some of those comments and criticisms were badwrong, but you have to expect that's going to happen when you communicate via mass media.

I'm not saying that people should live in fear of harsh feedback, I'm saying that when you hold up a megaphone, you should be prepared for people to shout back too



Sure.  She only got what she deserved.  2/3rds do, sooner or later.

And like I said, this will be one - two, actually - people who will learn to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP, and that's what we're all about, here in The Church™ and in America™.

Or she'll learn to stand firm for her beliefs no matter what. 

Sure she will.  Until these bastards post her fucking home address, and she and her family get hounded non-fucking stop (one of the threats, and the one most likely to be carried out).

But that's okay, right?  Because she will have clung to her beliefs as her family spends the next fucking 10 years in a fortress fucking mentality.

It's so simple.  Why didn't I see that?

Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2011, 02:08:38 AM
Quote from: Telarus on May 26, 2011, 01:49:25 AM
I'd also like to point out that Rog also nailed an underlying trend:

That it has now become "acceptable" within certain circles to threaten a child with rape to shut her up and intimidate others from speaking their political views.

Yep. That's really what this is about, IMO; the very disturbing trend for certain groups to neither denounce nor shun those of their own who use tactics that previously, almost everyone wanted to distance themselves from.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 02:09:24 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 26, 2011, 02:08:38 AM
Quote from: Telarus on May 26, 2011, 01:49:25 AM
I'd also like to point out that Rog also nailed an underlying trend:

That it has now become "acceptable" within certain circles to threaten a child with rape to shut her up and intimidate others from speaking their political views.

Yep. That's really what this is about, IMO; the very disturbing trend for certain groups to neither denounce nor shun those of their own who use tactics that previously, almost everyone wanted to distance themselves from.

IT'S SPRINGTIME IN MUNICH ARIZONA!
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: BabylonHoruv on May 26, 2011, 02:13:29 AM
Importantly, this is the teaparty, who are quick as can be to censor people they disagreee with, whether in blogs or forums.

They can't claim this is because they are opposed to censorship, or supporting free speech or anything of the sort.

They do not censor this because they support this particular speech.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 26, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.

I'm getting there.

I think I might miss thinking that most people are basically decent.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on May 26, 2011, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.

There would be no place for these fuckers to hide if this were my daughter. 

I don't understand how any threats made towards this girl in this matter are not criminal.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 26, 2011, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.

There would be no place for these fuckers to hide if this were my daughter. 

I don't understand how any threats made towards this girl in this matter are not criminal.

They are.  Unfortunately, the odds of a successful prosecution are somewhere between jack and shit.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 26, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
Why is no one playing the pedo card? IMO it is fairly blatant in this case.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2011, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?

Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

Which is not OK no matter what the scenario, but "general public random asswipe" is one thing, "speaking for my political party" is another. See the post about this behavior not being denounced or condemned, but tacitly encouraged by the other members of the Tea Party. The political aspect is relevant, no matter how much people keep trying to ignore it.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on May 26, 2011, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 26, 2011, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 26, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

I agree that it's badwrong to troll kids, especially threaten them with violence. I also think that regardless of age, when you post something controversial on the net, you should be prepared for the fallout. (please do not read that as excusing people for being rude to kids) People were real jerks to Jessi Slaughter, but on the other side of the coin, she also shouldn't have told anonymous that she was going to "pop a glock in your mouth and make a brain slushee." This is why I wish there was a course in elementary schools about how to use the Internet and how to relate to the Internet.



@Nigel: I did not say we shouldn't criticize or condemn people

I did not get this memo.  I frequently troll kids IRL, and threaten them with cartoonish levels of violence.

Telling them some over-the-top crap about punting them back into their mother's womb is one thing.

Threatening to post their home address while a dozen slackjawed teabaggers drool over the prospect of raping the bad values out of her is another.

There would be no place for these fuckers to hide if this were my daughter. 

I don't understand how any threats made towards this girl in this matter are not criminal.

They are.  Unfortunately, the odds of a successful prosecution are somewhere between jack and shit.

:evil:

Oh but I would personally try it in the media, rather than an actual courtroom!!   :wink:

I'm ok with public humiliation and careers being ruined.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:27:55 PM
Apparently Bachmann has been called out yet again.
By a 17 year old now
http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/laurilebo/4675/hey_michele_bachmann%2C_i_got_your_nobel_laureates_right_here/
Maybe after a few years she'll actually get called out by someone her own age.
QuoteThis week, 17-year-old Baton Rouge high school student Zack Kopplin called on Bachmann to back up her statement from 2006 in which she said lots of Nobel Prize winners support intelligent design.

Exhibit B: "There is a controversy among scientists about whether evolution is a fact... hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel prizes, believe in intelligent design."

Kopplin is leading a charge to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act, an anti-evolution law that would sneak the teaching of creationism into science class. I've analyzed the purpose of the law here.

What's really cool about Kopplin's campaign is that he has lined up support for the repeal from 43 Nobel Laureates.

So Kopplin, in an open letter on his web site Wednesday, basically said, "I've shown mine, now you, Congresswoman Bachmann, show me yours."

He writes:

    Does Congresswoman Bachmann really think the public will fall for her sleight of hand and believe she has Nobel Laureate scientists who support these unscientific theories?

    Congresswoman Bachmann, I see your "hundreds" of scientists, and raise you millions of scientists.

    For the next hand, I raise you 43 Nobel Laureate scientists.  That's right: 43 Nobel Laureate scientists have endorsed our effort to repeal Louisiana's creationism law.

    Major science organizations, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science, which represents over 10 million scientists, have publicly endorsed the repeal.

    Congresswoman Bachmann, you claim that Nobel Laureates support creationism.  Show me your hand. If you want to be taken seriously by voters while you run for President, back up your claims with facts. Can you match 43 Nobel Laureates, or do you fold?

Kopplin is testifying before Louisiana lawmakers today urging them to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: LMNO on May 26, 2011, 08:30:16 PM
YOU GONNA GET RAPED.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:27:55 PM
Apparently Bachmann has been called out yet again.
By a 17 year old now

I wonder if she'll send a few teabaggers around to curb stomp him until he sees the light?
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 26, 2011, 08:32:34 PM
Card games are the devil's work, Bachmann won't play.

(It's true, my grandmother taught me so.  To this day, she won't have a deck in the house.)
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 26, 2011, 08:33:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:27:55 PM
Apparently Bachmann has been called out yet again.
By a 17 year old now

I wonder if she'll send a few teabaggers around to curb stomp him until he sees the light?

Isn't it the 'in' thing to do?
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?


Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.



Bachmann is not human


see

(http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/files/2011/04/Michelle-BACHMANN-6.jpg)




I don't know what she is.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 26, 2011, 08:40:18 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?


Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.



Bachmann is not human


see

(http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/files/2011/04/Michelle-BACHMANN-6.jpg)




I don't know what she is.

Republabot.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Phox on May 26, 2011, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?


Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.



Bachmann is not human


see

(http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/files/2011/04/Michelle-BACHMANN-6.jpg)




I don't know what she is.
Lizard.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Luna on May 26, 2011, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?


Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.



Bachmann is not human


see

(http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/files/2011/04/Michelle-BACHMANN-6.jpg)




I don't know what she is.
Lizard.

My first thought was "one of those aliens from V.  I can see a live rat going right in there."
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Telarus on May 27, 2011, 12:22:37 AM
More on this 'trend':

http://www.alternet.org/belief/151086/high_school_student_stands_up_against_prayer_at_public_school_and_is_ostracized,_demeaned_and_threatened/?page=entire

Quote4) Fowler's parents have cut off his financial support, kicked him out of the house, and thrown his belongings onto the porch.

Let's be very, very clear about this one. At a time when their son was being bullied, threatened, publicly pilloried, and ostracized from his school and his community, his parents joined the party. Their initial response was to hold him in their house against his will, take his cell phone and cut off his contact with the outside world, and even cut him off from contact with his older brother, Jerrett. Their more recent response has been to cut off financial support, kick him out of the house, and throw his belongings onto the porch.

Fortunately, Damon isn't entirely alone. His brother Jerrett is bringing Damon into his own home in Texas, and will help put him through college. And Damon is fortunate enough to have the backing of the atheist community, who are providing encouragement, emotional support, practical assistance, and even a scholarship fund.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on May 27, 2011, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Telarus on May 27, 2011, 12:22:37 AM
More on this 'trend':

http://www.alternet.org/belief/151086/high_school_student_stands_up_against_prayer_at_public_school_and_is_ostracized,_demeaned_and_threatened/?page=entire

Quote4) Fowler's parents have cut off his financial support, kicked him out of the house, and thrown his belongings onto the porch.

Let's be very, very clear about this one. At a time when their son was being bullied, threatened, publicly pilloried, and ostracized from his school and his community, his parents joined the party. Their initial response was to hold him in their house against his will, take his cell phone and cut off his contact with the outside world, and even cut him off from contact with his older brother, Jerrett. Their more recent response has been to cut off financial support, kick him out of the house, and throw his belongings onto the porch.

Fortunately, Damon isn't entirely alone. His brother Jerrett is bringing Damon into his own home in Texas, and will help put him through college. And Damon is fortunate enough to have the backing of the atheist community, who are providing encouragement, emotional support, practical assistance, and even a scholarship fund.

jesus fucking christ....  How can a parent do that to their own child?  It's beyond my comprehension.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 27, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 27, 2011, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Telarus on May 27, 2011, 12:22:37 AM
More on this 'trend':

http://www.alternet.org/belief/151086/high_school_student_stands_up_against_prayer_at_public_school_and_is_ostracized,_demeaned_and_threatened/?page=entire

Quote4) Fowler's parents have cut off his financial support, kicked him out of the house, and thrown his belongings onto the porch.

Let's be very, very clear about this one. At a time when their son was being bullied, threatened, publicly pilloried, and ostracized from his school and his community, his parents joined the party. Their initial response was to hold him in their house against his will, take his cell phone and cut off his contact with the outside world, and even cut him off from contact with his older brother, Jerrett. Their more recent response has been to cut off financial support, kick him out of the house, and throw his belongings onto the porch.

Fortunately, Damon isn't entirely alone. His brother Jerrett is bringing Damon into his own home in Texas, and will help put him through college. And Damon is fortunate enough to have the backing of the atheist community, who are providing encouragement, emotional support, practical assistance, and even a scholarship fund.

jesus fucking christ....  How can a parent do that to their own child?  It's beyond my comprehension.

Because they aren't walking on their hind legs.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 27, 2011, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: Khara on May 27, 2011, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Telarus on May 27, 2011, 12:22:37 AM
More on this 'trend':

http://www.alternet.org/belief/151086/high_school_student_stands_up_against_prayer_at_public_school_and_is_ostracized,_demeaned_and_threatened/?page=entire

Quote4) Fowler's parents have cut off his financial support, kicked him out of the house, and thrown his belongings onto the porch.

Let's be very, very clear about this one. At a time when their son was being bullied, threatened, publicly pilloried, and ostracized from his school and his community, his parents joined the party. Their initial response was to hold him in their house against his will, take his cell phone and cut off his contact with the outside world, and even cut him off from contact with his older brother, Jerrett. Their more recent response has been to cut off financial support, kick him out of the house, and throw his belongings onto the porch.

Fortunately, Damon isn't entirely alone. His brother Jerrett is bringing Damon into his own home in Texas, and will help put him through college. And Damon is fortunate enough to have the backing of the atheist community, who are providing encouragement, emotional support, practical assistance, and even a scholarship fund.

jesus fucking christ....  How can a parent do that to their own child?  It's beyond my comprehension.

in the name of gawd all things are possible
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on May 27, 2011, 07:21:56 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on May 26, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: Slyph on May 26, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 25, 2011, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:44:41 PM
It's interesting .. we've seen a few stories like this in the last year, haven't we? Jessi Slaughter and Rebecca Black come to mind. It's like we haven't collectively established the appropriate response for a child being super annoying on the internet.

Wait.

A 16 year old attempting to take part in the political process is the same as Rebecca Black?


Well, all three of them stories follow a kind of "young woman does something; gets threatened with rape" trend.

This merely confirms my present opinion of humans.



Bachmann is not human


see

(http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/files/2011/04/Michelle-BACHMANN-6.jpg)




I don't know what she is.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vu7w1.jpg)
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 27, 2011, 08:04:36 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Wizard on May 27, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
This makes me sick. Something hideous needs to happen to these Tea Party bastards.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 27, 2011, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on May 27, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
This makes me sick. Something hideous needs to happen to these Tea Party bastards.

It is, as we speak.

Best part is, they voted for it.   :lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 04:54:30 PM
And if she is raped, she probably asked for it with the way she dressed.

Well, at least according to Lies.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=218373628186363&id=646093119
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 04:54:30 PM
And if she is raped, she probably asked for it with the way she dressed.

Well, at least according to Lies.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=218373628186363&id=646093119

Lies, you are a fucking idiot. Go blow yourself up, you shitstain.

Short skirts and cleavage don't magically make rapists out of honest men. A rapist is looking for a victim in a vulnerable situation, regardless of her clothing. It's not the appearance of the woman that tantalizes the rapist mentality; it's the power itself, the victimization. This is why old and fat and ugly women get raped as well as young thin pretty ones. The rapist doesn't care.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 30, 2011, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on May 30, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 04:54:30 PM
And if she is raped, she probably asked for it with the way she dressed.

Well, at least according to Lies.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=218373628186363&id=646093119

Lies, you are a fucking idiot. Go blow yourself up, you shitstain.

Short skirts and cleavage don't magically make rapists out of honest men. A rapist is looking for a victim in a vulnerable situation, regardless of her clothing. It's not the appearance of the woman that tantalizes the rapist mentality; it's the power itself, the victimization. This is why old and fat and ugly women get raped as well as young thin pretty ones. The rapist doesn't care.

Isn't this very close to the Islam creed that men are simply children and can't be held responsible for what they do when a woman shows an ankle? After all, it's always the womans fault.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2011, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 30, 2011, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on May 30, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 04:54:30 PM
And if she is raped, she probably asked for it with the way she dressed.

Well, at least according to Lies.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=218373628186363&id=646093119

Lies, you are a fucking idiot. Go blow yourself up, you shitstain.

Short skirts and cleavage don't magically make rapists out of honest men. A rapist is looking for a victim in a vulnerable situation, regardless of her clothing. It's not the appearance of the woman that tantalizes the rapist mentality; it's the power itself, the victimization. This is why old and fat and ugly women get raped as well as young thin pretty ones. The rapist doesn't care.

Isn't this very close to the Islam creed that men are simply children and can't be held responsible for what they do when a woman shows an ankle? After all, it's always the womans fault.

Yeah, basically. That kind of thinking shows a level of contempt for honest men, IMO. Men don't get "tempted" into rape, and the rapist isn't looking for a "slut" (if he was, he would just go pick a girl up... but it's not about a woman putting out, it's about force) he's looking for a victim who won't fight back or run away.

So, yeah, it makes sense to wear shoes you can run in and not heels, if you're out alone. And it's important to look confident and strong. Unimportant; whether your outfit is "slutty". Because the rapist is already a rapist; you are neither going to tempt nor deter him by looking hot.

Once you start thinking about "dressing defensively", it's not a very far slide to the burkha.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 05:22:28 PM
Unless "dressing defensively" means "a Bowie knife strapped to your leg under the skirt".

Or, as you point out, in the pocket of your parka, as it doesn't really matter how you're dressed.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2011, 05:23:53 PM
Oh, and anyone who argues that "looking slutty" (which is completely subjective BTW) is more likely to make you a target for a rapist obviously hasn't read ANY of the very large and accessible quantity of psychology research on rapists, how they  think, and how they choose their victims.

Look it up, morons. "Common sense" my fucking ass. You wouldn't know common sense if it raped you in the ass, Lies.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 30, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 05:22:28 PM
Unless "dressing defensively" means "a Bowie knife strapped to your leg under the skirt".

Or, as you point out, in the pocket of your parka, as it doesn't really matter how you're dressed.

That sounds kinda hot.  :evil:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
He pulled the thread off the public page.  It's still there, though.

:lulz:

But, yeah, I am always curious about people that call women "sluts", either because they enjoy sex, or because they dress in a certain way.

No, scratch that, I don't wonder at all.  They're the same kind of guys who think female circumcision is a good idea...Or at least they share the same logic.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 30, 2011, 05:32:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
He pulled the thread off the public page.  It's still there, though.

:lulz:

But, yeah, I am always curious about people that call women "sluts", either because they enjoy sex, or because they dress in a certain way.

No, scratch that, I don't wonder at all.  They're the same kind of guys who think female circumcision is a good idea...Or at least they share the same logic.

Personally I think it stems from a complete lack of confidence in their own sexuality. Strong women scare the fuck out of them. But what do I know, I don't have a degree or anything.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
He pulled the thread off the public page.  It's still there, though.

:lulz:

But, yeah, I am always curious about people that call women "sluts", either because they enjoy sex, or because they dress in a certain way.

No, scratch that, I don't wonder at all.  They're the same kind of guys who think female circumcision is a good idea...Or at least they share the same logic.

What a coward.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: hirley0 on May 30, 2011, 05:40:22 PM
Shirley ? 9:40:41.456 pdT

Quote from: Your Mom on May 30, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 30, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
He pulled the thread off the public page.  It's still there, though.

:lulz:

But, yeah, I am always curious about people that call women "sluts", either because they enjoy sex, or because they dress in a certain way.

No, scratch that, I don't wonder at all.  They're the same kind of guys who think female circumcision is a good idea...Or at least they share the same logic.

What a coward.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2011, 05:40:40 PM
I've said it before, and I just posted it in that thread, but I always wonder what motivates people to present a strong opinion on something, especially something like rape, that they clearly don't know much about and haven't researched at all. Even the barest minimum of research would reveal to Lies (or the author of the article he posted) why the way you dress is fairly irrelevant to the rapist's victim selection. But he can't be bothered to do that research before forming and broadcasting his strong opinion, and even if he did it... what do you want to bet he would choose not to believe it?
That kind of ignorance is exactly what we make fun of Tea Partiers for.  :lol:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: hirley0 on May 30, 2011, 05:43:02 PM
I ment SiX Minutes
Quote from: Your Mom on May 30, 2011, 05:40:40 PM
I've said it before, and I just posted it in that thread, but I always wonder what motivates people to present a strong opinion on something, especially something like rape, that they clearly don't know much about and haven't researched at all. Even the barest minimum of research would reveal to Lies (or the author of the article he posted) why the way you dress is fairly irrelevant to the rapist's victim selection. But he can't be bothered to do that research before forming and broadcasting his strong opinion, and even if he did it... what do you want to bet he would choose not to believe it?
That kind of ignorance is exactly what we make fun of Tea Partiers for.  :lol:
Title: Re: 60 Min
Post by: hirley0 on May 30, 2011, 05:44:37 PM

NeX T


Quote from: hirley0 on May 30, 2011, 05:43:02 PM
I ment SiX Minutes
Quote from: Your Mom on May 30, 2011, 05:40:40 PM
I've said it before, and I just posted it in that thread, but I always wonder what motivates people to present a strong opinion on something, especially something like rape, that they clearly don't know much about and haven't researched at all. Even the barest minimum of research would reveal to Lies (or the author of the article he posted) why the way you dress is fairly irrelevant to the rapist's victim selection. But he can't be bothered to do that research before forming and broadcasting his strong opinion, and even if he did it... what do you want to bet he would choose not to believe it?
That kind of ignorance is exactly what we make fun of Tea Partiers for.  :lol:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 30, 2011, 05:45:40 PM
What the fuck?
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 30, 2011, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 30, 2011, 05:45:40 PM
What the fuck?

Don't ask. It's N0p.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 30, 2011, 05:50:06 PM
Damn, it must be true. Even butterflies can be sluts.

And scientists in Japan have observed that the butterflies have a simple way to avoid the unwanted attention of persistent males; they close their wings.

By folding away their bright, striking wing patterns, the females make themselves less visible to males.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13573037
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: hirley0 on May 30, 2011, 05:51:07 PM
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Quote from: Your Mom on May 30, 2011, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 30, 2011, 05:45:40 PM
What the fuck?

Don't ask. It's N0p.
Yes M'
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Kai on May 30, 2011, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 30, 2011, 05:50:06 PM
Damn, it must be true. Even butterflies can be sluts.

And scientists in Japan have observed that the butterflies have a simple way to avoid the unwanted attention of persistent males; they close their wings.

By folding away their bright, striking wing patterns, the females make themselves less visible to males.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13573037

And of course, mysogynists will take this and run with it.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on May 30, 2011, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 30, 2011, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on May 30, 2011, 05:50:06 PM
Damn, it must be true. Even butterflies can be sluts.

And scientists in Japan have observed that the butterflies have a simple way to avoid the unwanted attention of persistent males; they close their wings.

By folding away their bright, striking wing patterns, the females make themselves less visible to males.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13573037

And of course, mysogynists will take this and run with it.  :horrormirth:

Hey, if they don't look like such a pretty flower, I won't be forced to drink their nectar.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Reginald Ret on June 01, 2011, 11:09:17 PM
Cue camo burka's.

Shit, they already exist:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4306776792_545437aeb5.jpg)

For your ultimate safety when walking through dark woods!
(when worn inside out it's a little red riding hood outfit)
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2011, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: Regret on June 01, 2011, 11:09:17 PM
Cue camo burka's.

Shit, they already exist:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4306776792_545437aeb5.jpg)

For your ultimate safety when walking through dark woods!
(when worn inside out it's a little red riding hood outfit)

:lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
This, of course, is why women don't get raped in fundamentalist Muslim countries.

Oh, wait.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on June 01, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
This, of course, is why women don't get raped in fundamentalist Muslim countries.

Oh, wait.

What man can resist a woman in camo? The sluts were begging for it.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Freeky on June 01, 2011, 11:36:54 PM
Shit, I want a burka.  They look like they'd be a sight more protective from the sun and somewhat cooler than jeans.  Air circulation for the win.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2011, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on June 01, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
This, of course, is why women don't get raped in fundamentalist Muslim countries.

Oh, wait.

What man can resist a woman in camo? The sluts were begging for it.

It's just common sense.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2011, 11:47:40 PM
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on June 01, 2011, 11:36:54 PM
Shit, I want a burka.  They look like they'd be a sight more protective from the sun and somewhat cooler than jeans.  Air circulation for the win.

Yeah, they're actually very practical in the desert. I've already decided that if I ever make it back to Burning Man, I'm bringing a couple of burkas.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Adios on June 01, 2011, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on June 01, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
This, of course, is why women don't get raped in fundamentalist Muslim countries.

Oh, wait.

What man can resist a woman in camo? The sluts were begging for it.

It's just common sense.

Terri has camo panties that have Gretchen Wilson on them. She gets raped every single time she wears them.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2011, 11:56:12 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on June 01, 2011, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on June 01, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
This, of course, is why women don't get raped in fundamentalist Muslim countries.

Oh, wait.

What man can resist a woman in camo? The sluts were begging for it.

It's just common sense.

Terri has camo panties that have Gretchen Wilson on them. She gets raped every single time she wears them.

:lulz:
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 01, 2011, 11:56:48 PM
Wow, it's surprisingly hard to find a white abaya. I found a white niqab no problem.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 02, 2011, 01:27:16 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:56:48 PM
Wow, it's surprisingly hard to find a white abaya. I found a white niqab no problem.
http://www.islamic-attire.com/products/SAFA-White-abaya-with--exclussive-embroidery.html
http://www.islamic-attire.com/products/MAHSA-summer-abaya-in-white-color.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Erum_Abaya_Set-781-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Eliza_Abaya-780-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Aaqilah_Abaya-477-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Abal_Abaya-142-9.html

ok i will stop  :lulz:
also most people wear white for hajj so you could look for those outfits
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 02, 2011, 01:41:53 AM
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 02, 2011, 01:27:16 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:56:48 PM
Wow, it's surprisingly hard to find a white abaya. I found a white niqab no problem.
http://www.islamic-attire.com/products/SAFA-White-abaya-with--exclussive-embroidery.html
http://www.islamic-attire.com/products/MAHSA-summer-abaya-in-white-color.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Erum_Abaya_Set-781-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Eliza_Abaya-780-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Aaqilah_Abaya-477-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Abal_Abaya-142-9.html

ok i will stop  :lulz:
also most people wear white for hajj so you could look for those outfits

Thanks! I think I'm going to get the tiered cotton crinkle one... I just saw it somewhere else for $40.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Freeky on June 02, 2011, 04:00:50 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/Meiintas/GHOST.jpg)
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Don Coyote on June 02, 2011, 04:15:36 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:47:40 PM
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on June 01, 2011, 11:36:54 PM
Shit, I want a burka.  They look like they'd be a sight more protective from the sun and somewhat cooler than jeans.  Air circulation for the win.

Yeah, they're actually very practical in the desert. I've already decided that if I ever make it back to Burning Man, I'm bringing a couple of burkas.
If I ever permanently move back to a desert I will be adding articles of male Arab attire to my wardrobe.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Freeky on June 02, 2011, 04:18:29 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:47:40 PM
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on June 01, 2011, 11:36:54 PM
Shit, I want a burka.  They look like they'd be a sight more protective from the sun and somewhat cooler than jeans.  Air circulation for the win.

Yeah, they're actually very practical in the desert. I've already decided that if I ever make it back to Burning Man, I'm bringing a couple of burkas.

Dude, I think I was outside for a grand total of twentyfive minutes, and that's TOPS,  in only ten minute increments, and I feel burned the fuck up from the sun and heat.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Reginald Ret on June 02, 2011, 12:09:25 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 02, 2011, 01:41:53 AM
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 02, 2011, 01:27:16 AM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 01, 2011, 11:56:48 PM
Wow, it's surprisingly hard to find a white abaya. I found a white niqab no problem.
http://www.islamic-attire.com/products/SAFA-White-abaya-with--exclussive-embroidery.html
http://www.islamic-attire.com/products/MAHSA-summer-abaya-in-white-color.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Erum_Abaya_Set-781-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Eliza_Abaya-780-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Aaqilah_Abaya-477-9.html
http://www.eastessence.com/products/Abal_Abaya-142-9.html

ok i will stop  :lulz:
also most people wear white for hajj so you could look for those outfits

Thanks! I think I'm going to get the tiered cotton crinkle one... I just saw it somewhere else for $40.

Why white?

If you wear layers black is the better insulating options, or so i've heard.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on June 02, 2011, 12:30:55 PM
white is for staying COOL not WARM.
Title: Re: 16 year old girl threatened with rape for challenging Bachmann.
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 02, 2011, 10:33:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 25, 2011, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 25, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 25, 2011, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on May 25, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Child posts

Internet froths

Child cries


that's what I'm talking about. We're going to see this happen a bunch more in the coming year, with increasing degrees of support or outrage depending on whether the kid annoyed us personally. There will even be a short-hand slang word for this phenomenon. But I think that's still a few months off.


By the way, this article is not about the girl getting trolled, the point of the article is to make you say "Supporters of Michelle Bachmann are would-be child rapists."

We're not talking about people being garden-variety mean on the internet. We're talking about people threatening a child with rape because she wrote a letter they disagree with.

This *is* garden variety mean for any woman who manages to get the attention of the wrong parts of the internet.  Men can expect death threats instead.  The problem is a lot deeper than the politics.
Horseshit. We aren't talking about "the wrong parts of the internet". We're talking about political bloggers. People who, in theory, should be held to a higher standard than a youtube comment thread. It's a good thing that there isn't a history of violence associated with the Tea Party.... oh wait...

Wait, you think that political bloggers are held to some standard of ethics?

They're just the 21st century first-world version of mentally ill homeless people screaming prophecy from the seedy streetcorners.

I can't believe that anybody is either surprised OR shocked by this.

FFS, Requia is actually RIGHT. My world has been turned on its ear. This girl (and everyone else who wants to get along in The Future) had better sack the fuck up. This world is no place for the squeamish or the righteous.