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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: P3nT4gR4m on February 28, 2014, 09:42:34 AM

Title: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 28, 2014, 09:42:34 AM
http://singularityhub.com/2014/02/25/drones-to-deliver-government-docs-in-the-united-arab-emirates-next-year/ (http://pretty%20sure%20i'm%20missing%20something%20here)  :eek:

Just thinking about how we could develop this further by transporting the guy who wrote the document to the recipient site, where he types it out in person, maybe
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 28, 2014, 03:25:48 PM
Well, if you needed to securely send a sensitive document, what would you do?
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 28, 2014, 04:54:06 PM
Email it.

Quadcopter failure is much more common than people breaking an unbreakable encryption. So to avoid the risk of using unbreakable encryption, you reckon it's better to risk the thing just falling out of the sky or being shot down by someone who wants to read it?
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
Is there really such a thing as truly unbreakable encryption?
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Pæs on March 01, 2014, 04:21:19 AM
Yes, but it unfortunately is also irreversible. You delete the text and then send the message.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2014, 04:32:42 AM
Quote from: Pæs on March 01, 2014, 04:21:19 AM
Yes, but it unfortunately is also irreversible. You delete the text and then send the message.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Cain on March 01, 2014, 12:00:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 01, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
Is there really such a thing as truly unbreakable encryption?

A one-time pad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad) is unbreakable when done right.  Failing that, PGP encryption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pgp_encryption#Security_quality) is fairly simple and appears impossible to crack by existing cryptanalysis methods.

Of course, the problems with both of those are the end-user security, and the possibility of being dragged off into the woods for a game of "50 rounds with a hot poker and one simple question", but from a technical POV, both are viable.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2014, 05:07:56 PM
Well, then, I guess the government might as well just email away!

Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Cain on March 01, 2014, 05:57:28 PM
Yes, but how can you use emails to allow your political backers to skim funds off government contracts?  Drones allow that, and they're WHITE HOT BLEEDING EDGE POSTMODERN TECHNOLOGY!

Plus it'll show Jeff Bezos up.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Telarus on March 01, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
 :lulz:

Drones would be pretty handy to move gold or arms surreptitiously.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: LMNO on March 01, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
And "faulty" ones would be a really good way to spread disinfo to enemy intel.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 01, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 01, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
And "faulty" ones would be a really good way to spread disinfo to enemy intel.

Oh hell yes.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 02, 2014, 08:17:01 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 01, 2014, 12:00:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 01, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
Is there really such a thing as truly unbreakable encryption?

A one-time pad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad) is unbreakable when done right.  Failing that, PGP encryption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pgp_encryption#Security_quality) is fairly simple and appears impossible to crack by existing cryptanalysis methods.

Of course, the problems with both of those are the end-user security, and the possibility of being dragged off into the woods for a game of "50 rounds with a hot poker and one simple question", but from a technical POV, both are viable.

Cutting to the chase as ever. When your weakest link isn't the transport medium, wasting resources securing that would seem redundant. If security is comedy weak, you might get away with a systems hack but if the goods are wrapped up reasonably tightly, the smart player will attack exploits in the human components.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Cain on March 02, 2014, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: Telarus on March 01, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
:lulz:

Drones would be pretty handy to move gold or arms surreptitiously.

Bitcoin and 3d printer plans for guns.

See, drones really are inferior to email.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Telarus on March 02, 2014, 05:59:01 PM
 :lulz: Good point.

Emergency Medical Supplies? I think they've been doing that in Africa for a year or two.
Title: Re: Sending hardcopy by quadcopter - it's the new email
Post by: Resigned Obligatorily on March 06, 2014, 06:53:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 01, 2014, 03:49:39 AM
Is there really such a thing as truly unbreakable encryption?

Einstein was working on the one equation for everything.
That could be the very unbreakable encryption you are referring to.

Michio Kaku says that our lives are predetermined because we can calculate everything.
If there was an unbreakable encryption, it would prove him wrong.

Could it be that an uncertain future is the result of an unbreakable encryption?

~O.R. -the pd.com reject-