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Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Cain on February 25, 2007, 11:45:06 PM

Title: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Cain on February 25, 2007, 11:45:06 PM
Many political words are similarly abused. The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable."
- George Orwell, Politics and the English Language.

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power
- Benito Mussolini

Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.
- Adolf Hitler

The word Fascism is bandied around a lot these days.  ,ÄúOh President Bush/my parents/teh librul medias/someone else I really don't like are fascists,Äù.  In fact, as Orwell noted as soon as the years immediately preceding WWII, the term Fascism, which had before the war meant a specific political ideology, had become nothing more than another political buzzword, rather in the way ,Äúfreedom,Äù or ,Äúsecurity,Äù has become today.

Occasionally, somebody will use what looks like, on the surface, a more useful variation, to describe an authoritarian dictatorship.  However, this is even more misleading.  Its most common use is an invocation of ,ÄúGodwin's Law,Äù, to justify modern military intervention.  Saddam Hussein was not a Fascist.  Neither were the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.  Both were totalitarian nightmares where dissent would likely put you in a dungeon, but that doesn't make the cut.  Fascism is special and we should be fortunate there have been very few historical examples of it at all.

The problem is using a word that you do not know about will invariably mean that when someone who does know what it means challenges you, you end up looking like an idiot.  Furthermore, knowing the peculiarities of the ideology will mean you are more capable at noting any further resurgence, which is entirely possible in the current political climate, albeit under modified circumstances.  Note: for the purposes of this essay, I am treating Fascism and Nazism as the same, with the latter being an especially virulent version of the former.  There are minor differences, but they are more related to the German feelings of grievance for the past 150 odd years and difference in emphasis on the state and people.

Lets start with the basics.  A fascist state is always an industrial one.  Always.  Modern society is a prerequisite for the political conditions which can bring a Nazi party into power.  Thats because the basic purpose of the movement is to bring meaning back to contemporary existence, which is often considered as empty or lacking due to lack of religious fervour, increasing globalization and growth of rational biased movements (Socialism, Liberalism etc).

To bring back meaning, the state is set up as a new deity.  This is not uncommon among most dictatorships, usually accompanied with a cult of the personality, but in Fascism the state will have a specific meaning in historical, cultural and biological terms which will likely clash with its more legal definition.  For the best example, Germany, the country ,ÄúGermany,Äù became linked to those who spoke German, had German culture and historical links with Germany.  So, naturally, the Germans in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Austrians were considered all to be part of the ,ÄúGreater Nation,Äù.  Anyone who did not share this was not German.  So Jews and Gypsies, not accepting the culture and 'biology' of Germans were not considered citizens and could not become one, in stark contrast to today where one can become British or American via a nationality test.

Hypernationalism will be the consequence of the stress placed on the historic importance and place of the nation.  Almost always it will be considered exceptional for reasons in its history (the British Empire, the Roman Empire, American victory in the Cold War, German cultural influence etc) but has recently been robbed of this and things ,Äúneed to be set right,Äù.  Focus will be placed on the military as the instrument of the state in claiming and keeping its special status.

Fascism is often called collectivist, which is broadly correct.  However, since the term is usually a libertarian slur for anyone on the left who disagrees with them, I will extend this somewhat.  Collectivist purely means a society where stress is placed on the community over the individual.  Obviously, this has authoritarian undertones, but is not necessarily a trait of the left, as is often surmised by right wing supporters.  In Communism, the collective is (at least in theory) organized from the bottom up.  The workers take control of the means of production, no-one else.  And in fact, as we can see in Soviet history, this has mostly been true.  Anyone with an ounce of common sense would not locate factories thousands of miles away from both the raw materials and markets, or piss away their only foreign traded resource, for nearly nothing, in sweetheart deals to their allies.

Nazism, by contrast, is corporatist.  That is to say, it is organized from the top down into a collective unit, by the state and its allies in industry.  This is why corporations and fascism are so closely related, because the former is a microcosm of the latter.  Its also a clever trick that often brings the working classes into bed with the Fascist party, as with Germany with Gregor Strasser or the BNP in the UK.  It appears to be working to the benefit of the workers, as well as stressing nationalism, thus gaining widespread appeal.  Sometimes this can degenerate into National Bolshevism, but more usually the higher ranks of the party will control or remove that faction.

Naturally, this left wing rhetoric will totally vanish when the party comes to power, usually by a combination of externally caused crisis, internal disorder and mass street violence.  The crisis creates a need for exceptional solutions, which fascists preach.  Internal disorder is often caused by groups allies with the party, along with general crime which may be exacerbated by the crisis.  Mass street violence will end up intimidating both minor parties and mainstream ones on the local level, leading to a dangerous polarization in the politics of the nation.  Only those brutal enough to use violence to enforce their will can have a say in the political process.

Along with the vanish in shamelessly fake left wing rhetoric will come a new found respect for the middle classes and in ,Äúprotecting them,Äù against a whole host of imaginary hobgoblins the Nazis will have seized upon as threatening the nation.  Be it Jews, Muslims or Atheists, they will be defined as incapable of existing alongside the people of the nation.  Historically, biological reasons would be given, nowadays, culture is where the emphasis is usually placed, being as it is in the mouth of fascists, a code word meaning ,Äúdirty foreigners,Äù.

However, the economic policies that are put in place by the new ruling party almost always destroy the middle class, as it is a possible area of resistance to the total control of the state.  Once internal enemies are ,Äúpurged,Äù, this economic configuration, along with emphasis on self-sufficiency will invariably result in territorial expansion.  No doubt, the fascist economy needs expansionism to exist and will eventually fall into recession without it.

Religion is usually of secondary purpose to the party.  Despite a close alliance in Spain, the relationship is usually collaborative with the largest groups either siding with the party or being harassed into exile.  Religion will be interpreted to serve the interests of the state, though it will often be mistrusted by those in power as another possible rival for control.

Fascism is always racist, though the groups chosen will vary a lot based on context.  Jews will always be targets for their streak of mystical individualism they introduced into Europe and for ,Äúkilling Jesus,Äù, whom Nazis tend to hold in high respect for some odd reason.  In the current political climate, Muslims are another easy target, whereas more obvious anti-Semitism has been toned down, because it is partly recognized as an election loser and because of support for Israel against Muslims. 

In summation, fascism is a radical and revolutionary right wing movement, which incorporates elements of the left as part of its cynical bid for power.  Revolutionary, it wants nothing less than the total recreation and reorganization of society.  Its basis is in violence, worship of the state, hypernationalist racism, militarism and expansion.  The individual means nothing and the only truth is force.  In short, it is the exaltation of the executioner by the executioner, torture by the torturer and sadism by the sadist. 
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Thurnez Isa on February 26, 2007, 12:01:32 AM
wow
that was a really interesting read
too bad we weren't marking you via school
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: B_M_W on February 26, 2007, 12:29:16 AM
Ah, I see. Fascism is a special and rare form of government, formed underspecial circumstances, and thus the term is often misused.

Thanks Cain.
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: theCalmpsychopath on February 26, 2007, 12:43:05 AM
why didn't you do this a week ago when i was doing a fascism report for school?

either way it was interesting, thanks Cain 
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Triple Zero on February 26, 2007, 08:48:14 AM
heyy, interesting writeup! went well with my morning coffee :)

but why does fascism follow this preset course? is it because that always is the set most logical thing to happen in a certain stage of fascism, or is it that the 'rulers' behind fascism sort of all follow the same book?

also it seems like a very .. "natural" (in a bad way) sort of thing that can happen to a state, sort of like a flashpoint, like, if all the right ingredients are there, a part of the machine (this one state/race/group) will sort of like "wake up" blink and feel "different" from the rest, and try to detach itself. ..scary.
is this the only direction in which such "flashpoint" upheavals, "total recreation and reorganization of society" can occur? or does the concept of revolution still have a chance ;-)
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Cain on February 26, 2007, 11:12:11 AM
Thanks everyone.  Sorry, I was off fisking Mad Mel, took some time to understand her tortorus "logic".

Why it does this I'm not certain. We (fortunately) have very few cases to work on, so finding general trends is hard.

However, its generally agreed that street violence is an integral part of fascism, along with the sense of grievance and victimization.  Its basically emo, but with worse dress sense.  When someone who has it very well starts whining about their lot, it may not be definite, but its a sign of fascism in politics.

No, the perfect example of the opposite was 1968.  The radical democratic uprising in Paris is an example of way things could go, instead of this way.  Revolution invariably kills itself, but rebellion is forever and a sacred duty.
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: The Littlest Ubermensch on February 27, 2007, 01:52:48 AM
Thanks Cain! This is a really great essay on Fascism (and just at the right time, considering we're going into WWII in my history class.)
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 27, 2007, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: The Littlest Ubermensch on February 27, 2007, 01:52:48 AM
Thanks Cain! This is a really great essay on Fascism (and just at the right time, considering we're going into WWII in my history class.)

Advise play Return to Castle Wolfenstein through to the end. Tells you everything you would ever need to know about WW2, including zombies, occult rituals, genetic engineered "Ubersoldats" and hand held rocket launchers.
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Cain on February 28, 2007, 01:37:26 PM
Here's a handy checklist for Fascism.

1. Anti-rational and distrust of reason.
2. Denial of equality
3. Violence and lies are the modus operandi of the regime
4. Government by elite
5. Totalitarianism
6. Racism and imperialism
7. Opposition to international law and order

I also didn't go much into Peron, but I really advise doing so.  Peron is what happens when someone with above average intelligence and political savvy decides to be a Fascist.
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Genocide Device on March 30, 2007, 09:47:56 AM
Damn,Ķ this moves me more than you could know,Ķ not something I generally give up to a random stranger abut I feel you deserve the appreciation from a former skin for something this powerful of a statement
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2007, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: Genocide Device on March 30, 2007, 09:47:56 AM
Damn,Ķ this moves me more than you could know,Ķ not something I generally give up to a random stranger abut I feel you deserve the appreciation from a former skin for something this powerful of a statement

You were a skin?  :joshua:
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Genocide Device on March 30, 2007, 10:44:35 AM
I was 16 and its not something I,Äôd really like to talk about.  Though I figured Cain should know that his ideas have more value than just ideological bull.  At one point or another I had to step back and go damn,Ķ there is way more to it than kill the nigger. (and believe me at the root of it all that is the biggest catalyst)

Really it puts you in a good perspective to see through the bull shit if they have fallen for it at least once.  I have read the ideological rants of the baath party and realized first hand that this was not fascism.  A sad attempt at a peoples identity sure but then again who are we to judge after the Boston tea party.
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: Lies on March 30, 2007, 11:51:46 AM
QuoteThe word Fascism is bandied around a lot these days.  ,ÄúOh President Bush/my parents/teh librul medias/someone else I really don't like are fascists,Äù.  In fact, as Orwell noted as soon as the years immediately preceding WWII, the term Fascism, which had before the war meant a specific political ideology, had become nothing more than another political buzzword, rather in the way ,Äúfreedom,Äù or ,Äúsecurity,Äù has become today.

Hey Cain, great article. That line alone got me thinking: for the 20 odd years I've been around on this earth, I've always heard *"name" is a fascist* and I never bothered asking what exactly is a fascist, I just knew it was apparently a bad thing to be one.
As soon as I read that, I figured, before I do anything else, I think I'll go look it up in the dictionary...
So now whenever I hear someone accuse anyone of being fascist, I can pop quiz that person on what the words means and deem just how intellectually capable these people are and if the arguements really worth listening to or they're just using big words to appear more intellectual.

I suppose its a good thing I never ever have accused anything of being fascist, generally, I don't use words in sentances I don't know if I'm trying to make an intellectual point.

Good read that man, I have taken away a lot from it.
Title: Re: Fascism: the real deal
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2007, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: Genocide Device on March 30, 2007, 10:44:35 AM
I was 16 and its not something I,Äôd really like to talk about.  

Oh, okay.  I did some dumb shit at that age, too.