"Noobs take science books and treat them as gospel, without doing the work. Did noob spiritualists in the age of Yore do the same? Could that have led to the corruption of the transcendent experience?"
"How would you go about raising children in a moral framework without subjecting them to the parent's belief system? Is that even a good thing to do?"
"Enormous chairs made out of champagne bottles"
"Language is based on shared experience, and so cannot be used to explain an individually unique experience."
"Rapt in your arms
Sell or be sold
Even though I should go
I can't say no"
Book Idea: "Against Liviticus"
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 16, 2012, 08:11:46 PM
"Enormous chairs made out of champagne bottles"
Give me back my drugs. :crankey:
Nein!
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"Monkey programming is self-correcting. It defaults to MAIN, and simians will drop back on all fours if you let them."
"Junkyard Seance"
"Warning: Laws of Physics Apply in this Area."
"I love to call you daddy, but I got my own sugar."
"At least, leave my with my illusions."
"Refraction window."
I need a drug but I've only got
my hands.
Alternative title: "Why 2000 year old legal codes devised for nomad desert life may not necessarily lead to Being All You Can Be".
"She looks like bacon, with hair like feathers, singing Journey."
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 16, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
"She looks like bacon, with hair like feathers, singing Journey."
Wow. Maybe these could have gone into one thread or something. I can't keep track of which is which.
We experience levels
Reality is a single level
Small things are counterintuitive
Small things are the single level
Small things are reality
Reality is counterintuitive
I don't think it's possible. The very act of trying is subjecting them to parental belief.
I also don't think it's a good idea, because kids need to be familiar with the culture they're going to spend their lives in and you are enculturated in part by your parents.
AMBIENT REPRESSION.
Subheading: "Common Sense, Revisited."
Thats band name if ive ever heard one.
Well, at least it could be interesting frustrating trying to keep track of them all.
It's been brought to my attention that these multiple topics can be fucking annoying.
Request to merge them all here.
:lulz:
Oooh. Got something ticking away for this but I need a better keyboard. Will post soon.
Leave junkyard seance out, please? I haz idea.
Thanks to the admins for fixing my unintentional troll.
Once all the topics are merged, can we move the orphan threads to the garbage heap? I thought we had something like that around here...
"Holes of Regret"
Quote from: American Jackal on October 16, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 16, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: American Jackal on October 16, 2012, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 16, 2012, 08:59:31 PM
"Holes of Regret"
The technical term for glory holes in Tuscon.
No, those would be "holes of loss".
I thought that was PDX on account of Nigels.
No, no...We're hungrier down here. And it's a desert, you know. Lotsa bad things happen in the desert. Best not to talk about it.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 16, 2012, 08:13:06 PM
"Language is based on shared experience, and so cannot be used to explain an individually unique experience."
All of my THIS
If anyone cares, my idea for the junkyard seance is taking time to cook, the stupid thing. WORDS, Y U NO COME OUT RIGHT?
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on October 17, 2012, 02:36:18 AM
If anyone cares, my idea for the junkyard seance is taking time to cook, the stupid thing. WORDS, Y U NO COME OUT RIGHT?
So, start a thread, and puke it out.
I have found that cheap synthetic valium helps with this.
It's almost to the point I can do that, but it would be like horking up half-chewed pizza.
Since is a fun jumble at this point, I'll let thing flow and bump the odd topic every so often.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 16, 2012, 08:27:59 PM
We experience levels
Reality is a single level
Small things are counterintuitive
Small things are the single level
Small things are reality
Reality is counterintuitive
Quote bump to jumpstart discussion.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 18, 2012, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 16, 2012, 08:27:59 PM
We experience levels
Reality is a single level
Small things are counterintuitive
Small things are the single level
Small things are reality
Reality is counterintuitive
Quote bump to jumpstart discussion.
I'm gonna pick one at random after this morning's meeting and go batshit.
Well played, sir.
Me too. It's a good idea, and I look forward to it.
I think my AMAZE-O-MATIC QUIP GENERATOR 3000 is broken. It doesn't seem to be saying what I want it to say.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 16, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
"Monkey programming is self-correcting. It defaults to MAIN, and simians will drop back on all fours if you let them."
They'll drop back on all fours even if you DON'T let them; it is their nature. They are primates, after all, weaponized apes, and they have a very clear idea of what is expected of them. They will join one or more packs, adopt the beliefs of the pack entirely and without question, and work diligently to make sure that primates whose asses smell differently SHUT THE FUCK UP. This can be done via politics, social pressure, or actual violence and/or warfare. They in fact prefer the latter two.
And when the generation in question croaks, they will be replaced by identical primates, and nobody will smell the difference. Extremism breeds extremism, and to be recognized as an alpha - or hell, just a loyal member of the pack - the primate must be MORE extreme than those around him.
The load of all this accumulated shit will force ANYONE on all fours. Even you. Even me. Think about it: there is at least ONE subject in life about which you are an extremist. I know *I* have at LEAST one, and I'm a Goddamn Holy Man™.
As a result of this universal assbaggery, the overton window in ANY complex society will slide one way or the other, doesn't matter which, until "common sense" is just a blurry dot in the distance, and moderation is but a memory.
Primates LIKE this shit. If they didn't, they wouldn't PAY for it. Not joking here. Observe America...We PAY rich people to STEAL from us, and we call anyone who doesn't like it a "socialist" or some such shit. "NOT ONE OF US! NOT ONE OF US! SCREEEEEEEEEEECH! Someone throw some shit at that guy, he made fun of our alpha!"
You Goddamn monkeys make me sick. If any of you had any civic virtues at all, you'd be up a watertower with a high powered rifle,
Building the Dream.
That's all I have to say, so everybody shut up.
My America was more or less in place before I even got there. I was born into this world to people who had a pretty substantial America already. They made sure I didn't see too much ugliness, they did their best to wallpaper the Truth from my eyes. They did it out of love, to be quite fair. And who wouldn't want to shield their child from all that is outside their America?
Years later, when I took over my America from them, I discovered that you needed constant vigilance and maintenance in order to keep America working. You stop taking out the trash, forget to do the laundry a few times, stop replacing batteries in the smoke alarms, and the next thing you know, America is a terrible place to be living in.
I've heard some people make their own America. That sounds pretty damn hard, and I have to respect that. I've been remodeling pretty extensively, but sometimes I think razing it and starting from scratch might be the easiest thing to do. But what would my America be, then?
Some people live in unfurnished Americas. They have more Americans to live in their unfurnished America, which strikes more than a few people as odd. Cafe Libertarians, for example, constantly scream how poor people shouldn't have kids (or even shouldn't be ALLOWED to have kids) until they are at least middle class.
This of course flies in the face of very well understood traits of humans: The worse the conditions are, the faster people have children. It's not because - as Libertarians would have you believe - they're stupid or short-sighted, but because millions of years of evolution are at work. If there are less resources to be had, you'd better have the largest, strongest family out there, so you can grab those resources. This doesn't work well in an industrialized setting of course, but evolution doesn't care. If it works, it works, and "working well for the individual" has nothing to do with anything.
The problem is, a great many Americans believe that they SHOULD believe Libertarianism. This is because Libertarianism is the best scam the top 1% ever devised. "Follow our rules", they say, "and one day YOU will be rich like us." It never works, because it was never DESIGNED to work, in fact the "rules" themselves prevent it from working, but primates believe it more and more every year.
Because primates, outside of their hind-brain wiring, don't think very much. It's hard, and it's directly opposed to the well-being of the pack structure...Or at least the alphas shitting a bizzard of poop down on the poor, befuddled primates at the bottom. Short version, people are DUMB.
EXAMPLE: People will spend all day looking at the AIN'T IT AWFUL threads, chuckling about how stupid all the OTHER primates are, and rarely post in a thread that requires any form of thinking.
CHOOSE:
1. A thread about geopolitics/primate behavior/equality, or
2. HONEY BOO BOO! HAW HAW! LOOKIT THAT THERE RUBE!
It's the new gospel.
The old one was, "FOLLOW THE RULES, AND YOU'LL BE REWARDED WHEN YOU DIE. IF YOU GET SHIT ON, IT'S A TEST."
The new one is, "FOLLOW THE RULES, AND YOU'LL GET RICH. IF YOU GET SHIT ON, IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT."
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 18, 2012, 06:41:46 PM
It's the new gospel.
The old one was, "FOLLOW THE RULES, AND YOU'LL BE REWARDED WHEN YOU DIE. IF YOU GET SHIT ON, IT'S A TEST."
The new one is, "FOLLOW THE RULES, AND YOU'LL GET RICH. IF YOU GET SHIT ON, IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT."
The Gospel According to Gordon Gekko.
The problem is they're both lies, as you pointed out.
And Gekko lives by a different Gospel: "POOR PEOPLE ARE MUSHROOMS. YOU HAVE TO COVER THEM WITH SHIT AND KEEP THEM IN THE DARK."
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 18, 2012, 06:44:18 PM
The problem is they're both lies, as you pointed out.
And Gekko lives by a different Gospel: "POOR PEOPLE ARE MUSHROOMS. YOU HAVE TO COVER THEM WITH SHIT AND KEEP THEM IN THE DARK."
It's the same thing. The "shit" in this case is "the American dream".
Strong stuff. I might have more to add to it but ill see where the muse takes me.
America walked through the long tunnel of revolution, civil war, the Nazi nightmare, civil rights, the cold war...and eventually came out the other side, into the light.
But our eyes had adjusted to the darkness; we had become Morlocks.
So we are retreating back into the darkness, walking backwards from the specters of equality, adequate living conditions, and all the other things we had built during the dark years. The light hurts our eyes, and we have found that we prefer feudalism, fear, and squalor.
"Fuck you guys. Seriously."
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Quote from: Man Yellow on October 19, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
America walked through the long tunnel of revolution, civil war, the Nazi nightmare, civil rights, the cold war...and eventually came out the other side, into the light.
But our eyes had adjusted to the darkness; we had become Morlocks.
So we are retreating back into the darkness, walking backwards from the specters of equality, adequate living conditions, and all the other things we had built during the dark years. The light hurts our eyes, and we have found that we prefer feudalism, fear, and squalor.
"Fuck you guys. Seriously."
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Oh everyone I know is totally going to be getting a link to this post right here...
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 19, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
America walked through the long tunnel of revolution, civil war, the Nazi nightmare, civil rights, the cold war...and eventually came out the other side, into the light.
But our eyes had adjusted to the darkness; we had become Morlocks.
So we are retreating back into the darkness, walking backwards from the specters of equality, adequate living conditions, and all the other things we had built during the dark years. The light hurts our eyes, and we have found that we prefer feudalism, fear, and squalor.
"Fuck you guys. Seriously."
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Ben even has that "Yeah yeah. You schmucks will blow it in less than three centuries, just you watch" look on his face.
Ben loved us anyway.
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 19, 2012, 10:24:29 PM
Ben loved us anyway.
Dude was a rock n roller before rock and roll.
Quote from: American Jackal on October 19, 2012, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 19, 2012, 10:24:29 PM
Ben loved us anyway.
Dude was a rock n roller before rock and roll.
There has always been rock n roll. I can give you any number of examples.
Quote from: Man Yellow on October 19, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
America walked through the long tunnel of revolution, civil war, the Nazi nightmare, civil rights, the cold war...and eventually came out the other side, into the light.
But our eyes had adjusted to the darkness; we had become Morlocks.
So we are retreating back into the darkness, walking backwards from the specters of equality, adequate living conditions, and all the other things we had built during the dark years. The light hurts our eyes, and we have found that we prefer feudalism, fear, and squalor.
"Fuck you guys. Seriously."
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Plato called me in a drunken stupor last night. Kept mumbling something about a cave metaphor.
I told him to fuck off to his realm of forms.