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Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: ~~~~Closed~~~~ on August 04, 2004, 10:09:01 AM
Read the topic title, then accept it as fact. why? because I've never heard a valid argument that supports vegitarianisim. allow me to recite a few.

Well I think that it's wrong to kill animals.
as a general rule of thumb, people who use this are usually wearing leather shoes. apparently your against killing animals unless it's for your benifit. hypocrite.

the cow had a family too.
yeah? and odds are that the cow's ramily was butchered right along with it. no harm, no foul.

it's the same thing is if I went out and started eating little kids
aside from the obvious "what the fuck are you smoking?!" response. I'm still going to eat meat, if you go out and start eating children it's not going to make me change my mind.

there are many others, but I'd like to continue with my rant.

Recent discoveries in the fossile records show that our ancestors' brains didn't start to increase in size until there was animal protien in their diet. how does one get animal protien in their diet? duh, eating animals. simply put, the human race wouldn't be here today if we hadn't eaten other animals. we have canines, they're designed for tearing flesh. we're omnivores. were supposed to eat meat and non-meat items.

and lets not forget that not eating meat can seriously fuck up your your diet. many vegitarians don't get enough protien in their diet. it also much easier to eat meat and veggies/fruit as opposed to keeping track of what fruits/veggies you've eaten so you know when your protien levels are in the green.

ironicly enough, plenty of veg-heads eat Jello.
NEWS FLASH: Gelatin is made out of meat you dim wits. next time you make chicken stock put some of it in the fridge overnight, and in the morning tell me what popular desert item is now in the container.

and to top it off, it doesn't matter if you don't eat meat. people are still going to buy it. your not saving any animals by depriving yourself of meat.

any veg-heads are more than welcome to post arguments for me to shoot down.

Hotsuma,
doesn't like vegitarianisim.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Donkeyotay on August 04, 2004, 10:37:11 AM
Vegetarians taste better.....less preservatives and weird hormones that have been injected into beef cows..Ya know...They are usually more juicy too...like a ripe red pepper! :twisted:
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: namu on August 04, 2004, 11:13:41 AM
Each and every cereal eater has the blood of a thousand rodents on his or her hands.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: on August 04, 2004, 11:36:34 AM
Vegetarianism is more efficient as far as resource consumption goes.

The grain vs the cow that eats grain.

Quoteand lets not forget that not eating meat can seriously fuck up your your diet. many vegitarians don't get enough protien in their diet. it also much easier to eat meat and veggies/fruit as opposed to keeping track of what fruits/veggies you've eaten so you know when your protien levels are in the green.

I know several pythagoreans. The only ones that have stuck with that lifestyle for a signifigant portion of time have done so because they became educated in terms of nutrition.

I eat meat because at this stage we still can.

I think thats part of species diversification.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: illusion on August 04, 2004, 04:15:22 PM
I eat very little meat. My reasons for doing so are purely selfish.
My body seems to function better when I keep meat consumption to very low levels.
I have more energy and get fewer tummy aches.
Plus, I like the taste of veggies better than the taste of meat.

As for jello being a meat by-product, every vegetarian I know is aware of that.

PS: You forgot to mention religion as a reason for vegetarianism.


Illusion,
Doesn't understand how you are affected by what other people eat.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 04, 2004, 05:43:11 PM
reason x:  i don't want to eat farmed meat.

mostly for personal health reasons..  i guess this don't make me a veg..  but i usually say i'm a vegetarian cause it's easier than explaining my diet to every yahoo.  :)

ps.  mine is a perfectly good reason to eat children, too.

kim
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: The Commander on August 04, 2004, 05:53:46 PM
I'm not a vegetarian, nor do I play one on TV.  However, I can certainly think of at least a couple of reasons people, as a whole, should reduce and/or eliminate the amount of meat they consume in their diet.

From an environmental standpoint, if everyone reduced their meat intake, less land would be use for livestock, which can have a devestating affect on the grond water of an area, not to mention soil erosion.  In turn, there wouuld be less of a need to set aside land for livestock feed, such as corn and grain, and more of that land could be used for produce, corn, wheat etc that would be consumed by people.

Yes, our bodies are desingned to be omnivorous (sp?) but vegetables and grains process much easier in our digestive system than meat does.  Incisors are used for eating fruits and vegetables, just as much as for meat.

In short, yes, we need meat as a source of protein in our diet, but we don't need meat at every meal.

And yes, I PROMISE I am NOT a vegetarian.  

BTW....from an ethical/moral standpoint....while I don't subscribe to the idea myself, just because someone is a hypocrite, it doesn't automatically invalidate the moral arguement against eating meat.

I think we should all add more pirate to our diet. :)  Aaaaaargh!

The Commander
DIA
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: fluffy on August 04, 2004, 06:44:25 PM
being a herbivore, i am a strict vegetarian. i depend on others,
like cnn, to devour my meat bearing victims.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: chaosgraves:agentoferis on August 04, 2004, 06:47:37 PM
wouldn't that be eating stupid?!?!?
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Horab Fibslager on August 04, 2004, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: 0)))Vegetarianism is more efficient as far as resource consumption goes.

actually no it isn't. live animal cultivation is more land and feed efficent than non-animal food stock. can't remember where i read this, but nonetheless. growing food takes more land, more machines, mroe labour, mroe fuel, and kills lots of little furry creature and introduces hundreds of tonnes of industrial pollutants into our soil(a main ingredient in 'industrial' fertilizer is ironically industrial toxic waste)

from a moral or ethical poitn of view, i find vegetarianism to be racist bordering on nazism, since we are merely choosing one life form over another to devour. yeah those abstadrd palnt kingdom pigs! they all will brun! mark me, they'll pay for what they've done to us!!!!!!!!

i personally have lsot alot of respect for religions wghich dont' eat meat, especially since these faiths tend to claim all life is sacred. so i wonder what a veggie is then? i spose, since it's onyl 3 or four times more alive than a slaughtered cow, then it clearly doesn't count when it is consumed thusly.

wash your hand sin the carrotein of a hundred million carrots, and no that every life extinguished puts vegetarianism one step closer to nazism....
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 04, 2004, 08:29:31 PM
tomorrow is harvest day, and to them, it is the halocaust.  DAMN YOU!  let the rabbits wear glasses.

lifefeedsonlifefeedsonlifefeedsonlifefeedsonlifefeedsonlifefeedsonlife
-maynard

i heard that in japan they say if you put too much wasabi on your sushi it makes you stupid.

kim, eating stupid.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: on August 04, 2004, 11:38:53 PM
Ok, heres another thing:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0009FD80-C3C6-1C5A-B882809EC588ED9F



QuoteIt takes up to 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of edible beef in a feedlot. Half of U.S. farm acreage is used to produce feed crops for livestock. A meat-centered diet requires about seventeen times the land area per person than would be required for a purely vegetarian diet. Animal agriculture also requires tremendous inputs of chemical fertilizer and pesticides, irrigation water, and fuel - commodities which are becoming very scarce worldwide.
http://www.jewishveg.com/schwartz/hunger.html

I'm in a hurry to find the figure I need, so unfortunately thats the best source I could come up with ( I have to leave for work, well, right now.)

Real quick:

QuoteIt takes about 2,500 gallons of water to produce a single pound of meat. According to Newsweek, "The water that goes into a 1,000 pound steer could float a destroyer." In contrast, it takes only 25 gallons of water to produce a pound of wheat.

QuoteThe world's cattle alone (not including other livestock) consume food enough for 8.7 billion people.

Quote.U.S. livestock produces 20 times the excrement of the human population.Their waste no longer serves to fertilize pastures a little at a time, since they spend much or all of their lives in factory sheds or feedlots. Wastes are often simply flushed away dangerously raising ammonia and nitrate levels in our drinking water. Going vegetarian helps to clean up our nation's water more than any other single action.

Those come from here: http://www.planetaryrenewal.org/ipr/vegetarian.html
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: DJRubberducky on August 05, 2004, 03:53:03 AM
That's because we insist on grain-feeding the bastards.  Come on, their whole worth as food animals was that they can eat *grass* and turn it into *meat*.
Title: Re: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Slarti on August 05, 2004, 04:35:26 AM
Quote from: Hotsuma
Well I think that it's wrong to kill animals.
as a general rule of thumb, people who use this are usually wearing leather shoes. apparently your against killing animals unless it's for your benifit. hypocrite.

maybe you've only met poser veggies, but i've met people that seriously didn't want to harm animals. they went out of their way to not do anything like wearing leather shoes and such.


Quote from: Hotsuma
it's the same thing is if I went out and started eating little kids
aside from the obvious "what the fuck are you smoking?!" response. I'm still going to eat meat, if you go out and start eating children it's not going to make me change my mind.

some people don't consider humans to be any greater than other animals (i included). therefore in their minds, that arguement is valid.



Quote from: Hotsuma
Recent discoveries in the fossile records show that our ancestors' brains didn't start to increase in size until there was animal protien in their diet. how does one get animal protien in their diet? duh, eating animals. simply put, the human race wouldn't be here today if we hadn't eaten other animals. we have canines, they're designed for tearing flesh. we're omnivores. were supposed to eat meat and non-meat items.

so? just because it helps us out, doesn't make it right.

Quote from: Hotsuma
and lets not forget that not eating meat can seriously fuck up your your diet. many vegitarians don't get enough protien in their diet. it also much easier to eat meat and veggies/fruit as opposed to keeping track of what fruits/veggies you've eaten so you know when your protien levels are in the green.

their choice. why does it bother you so much?

Quote from: Hotsuma
ironicly enough, plenty of veg-heads eat Jello.
NEWS FLASH: Gelatin is made out of meat you dim wits. next time you make chicken stock put some of it in the fridge overnight, and in the morning tell me what popular desert item is now in the container.

maybe PLENTY of them do, but not all. don't put down a whole group based on the actions of a poser majority.

Quote from: Hotsuma
and to top it off, it doesn't matter if you don't eat meat. people are still going to buy it. your not saving any animals by depriving yourself of meat.

it's not about changing anything. it's about making a concious decision to not do it. by not eating meat, their conscience is clear. why do you care enough to bash them on a thread like this?
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 05, 2004, 05:11:05 AM
i think hotsuma is a closet vegetarian.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: BADGE OF HONOR on August 05, 2004, 05:25:07 AM
I only object to idiot vegans (and veganism truly is a form of idiocy) (seriously it'd be safer to fast 4 days of the week) who insist on telling me I'm evil for enjoying a massive chunk of bleeding meat every once in a while.  I hate proselytizers and missionaries, no matter what the message.  I don't go around telling vegans they're fucking idiots for malnutriting themselves; I certainly don't want to be lectured about how I'm tainting myself with all the chemicals that farm animals get pumped with, or that I'm killing harmless creatures.  Farm animals aren't harmless creatures of the wild--they exist because of thousands of years of human intervention.  Hell, domestic turkeys have to be artificially inseminated because they're literally too stupid to breed on their own without injury.  

Anyway, I know I'm right because all the vegan people I know are even more sickly than me, and I'm not exactly a paragon of health and vigor.  But whatever, man.  Everyone makes choices, and nobody has the right to tell anyone what they're eating is wrong.  (Unless they're eating other human beings, which is frankly a health risk...what if I'm next, eh?)



Note:  Not to say all vegans are missionaries, just most of them.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Bella on August 05, 2004, 06:24:50 AM
Hmmm.......here's my two cents worth.
I don't tell anyone else what to eat and I don't want them telling me what to eat.
This includes carnivores, vegans, vegetarians, and flexitarians.
My niece tells me I fall in the latter category because I eat meat - or not.
It all depends on what I'm hungry for at the moment.

I feel that all life is sacred, whether human type animal, non-human type animal, vegetable, etc.
Therefore, all food should be eaten with gratitude and we should try not to waste it
it or be cruel to the life forms that supply us with nourishment.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: on August 05, 2004, 07:25:06 AM
Quote from: Wenchmaster KI only object to idiot vegans (and veganism truly is a form of idiocy) (seriously it'd be safer to fast 4 days of the week) who insist on telling me I'm evil for enjoying a massive chunk of bleeding meat every once in a while.  I hate proselytizers and missionaries, no matter what the message.  I don't go around telling vegans they're fucking idiots for malnutriting themselves; I certainly don't want to be lectured about how I'm tainting myself with all the chemicals that farm animals get pumped with, or that I'm killing harmless creatures.  Farm animals aren't harmless creatures of the wild--they exist because of thousands of years of human intervention.  Hell, domestic turkeys have to be artificially inseminated because they're literally too stupid to breed on their own without injury.  

Anyway, I know I'm right because all the vegan people I know are even more sickly than me, and I'm not exactly a paragon of health and vigor.  But whatever, man.  Everyone makes choices, and nobody has the right to tell anyone what they're eating is wrong.  (Unless they're eating other human beings, which is frankly a health risk...what if I'm next, eh?)



Note:  Not to say all vegans are missionaries, just most of them.

Dont stereotype so much just based on the vegans you know. A few of my best friends are vegans, and they arent anything like the vegans you describe. As a matter of fact, most of the Vegans I know are sick of being harassed for it.

I DO know vegans like the ones you describe, and you must trust me when I say that I hate them with every fiber of my being, but I'll never go so far as to say that "Veganism is a form of idiocy." Thats right up there with "Discordianism is a form of idiocy".

The reason I would, myself, never be vegan is that it simply takes way too much effort. It is good to be knowledgable, in all circumstances, however. I look at eating meat as a priveledge. I once ate a steak in front of a cow.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: namu on August 05, 2004, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI feel that all life is sacred, whether human type animal, non-human type animal, vegetable, etc.
Therefore, all food should be eaten with gratitude and we should try not to waste it or be cruel to the life forms that supply us with nourishment.
I think it all depends on whether the lifeform was born for being eaten or was born free. Yes to eating anything we've cultivated and raised ourselves. No to the forceful rapture of free creatures and plants from their rightful environment.

My symbiote, on the other hand, says that the essence of life truly is struggle and that we should stop worrying about all these matters, for it's the rightful thing to try and get a bite of anything circumstances bring to you.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 05, 2004, 12:43:13 PM
eat more people, help improve our genetics by weeding out the weak..  see, much like mad cow disease happened from cows eating cows, we can get prions from eating humans, too.  and it kills some of us..  but the ones that survive are genetically superior, and can continue eating people.

vegetarians taste better.

discordianism is a form of idiocy.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: DJRubberducky on August 05, 2004, 02:29:50 PM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomI feel that all life is sacred, whether human type animal, non-human type animal, vegetable, etc.
Therefore, all food should be eaten with gratitude and we should try not to waste it or be cruel to the life forms that supply us with nourishment.
Hear, hear!  :D

For the most part, I have no qualms about eating the flesh of livestock animals.  If their whole reason for being born was to become some human's food, who am I to thwart their destiny and keep their souls from learning the lessons to be learned in such a life?

On the other hand, I think the astounding ease with which we can obtain meat does mean we're starting to lose our connection with the process.  If I were required to slaughter the meat animal I wished to consume, I'd probably still do it, but at least then I'd have a greater appreciation for just how that rib eye got on my plate, y'know?

Hrm...now I'm thinking I want to actually do this.  I wonder if there are any slaughterhouses near Dallas.  I don't think I'd get to be a good enough shot to actually hunt something for myself.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Slarti on August 05, 2004, 03:13:14 PM
My main objection to eating meat (but i still do. long story, or i could just be a hypocrite) is the way a lot of it is raised in the US. i've seen some of the farms where they file 10,000 cows in one pen so they don't have room to walk around, and they just feed them and give them growth hormones and such. it's sickening. that's why i won't eat fast food. but i still eat meat from my local grocery store, in (probably vain) hope that they are raised nearby in fairly good conditions.

i'm still waiting for hotsuma to rip my arguement to shreds  :P
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Hwarang on August 05, 2004, 04:13:16 PM
Hi,

This is my first post here.


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I know a few vegetarians who simply don't like the taste of meat. If that's the case, I can respect it. I don't like seafood ... *kak*!!

...
People who are vegans out of morality concerns ("meat is murder!"), though ... I generally think they are attempting to make themselves feel better by fooling themselves into believing that they have found a way around one of the few constant truths about life on this planet:

For you to live; something must die.  Plant or animal, you must consume something that was once living to continue your existence.

...
People who are vegetarians due to concerns about the cleanliness of meat and the conditions of processing plants ... well I share those concerns too. But meat is tasty and I'm a realist. The places that process and package all your non-meat foods are just as gross. I'll offer up the link: http://www.fda.gov/ ... you can read all kinds of interesting stuff there about what the government allows in our food. Anybody (vegetarians included) care to calculate how much rat feces you've ingested this year alone?

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People who are vegetarians due to dietary health concerns ... I have only this to say: Who are you to argue with a million years of evolution? That's pretty arrogant. :) We are omnivores.

Ever notice how sallow and crappy the skin of a vegetarian looks? Almost universally, their skin lacks a healthy hue. Nutrition deficiency.

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The last gripe about vegetarians: Moral condescention and relentless evangalism. Man is that annoying or what? First off, I'm a gracious host and practiced gentleman, so if you come to dinner at my house and you're a vegetarian, you can bet I'll have lots of tasty stuff for you to eat. But you should be able to tolerate the presence and smell of some meat on the table, without getting all preachy. The flipside of that same coin is ... if I am a guest in your house, I do not expect you to cook a special meal for me. I'm just not that pushy. I'll eat your veg food. *shrug* May have to go get a burger on the way home but whatever :)
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: gnimbley on August 05, 2004, 04:45:38 PM
Welcome, Hwarang.

The only people I know were vegetarians became that way because
they would constantly see the cute little cuddly animal in their minds
whenever they looked at meat. Eventually those thoughts left their
minds and they went back to eating meat.

For a while I wouldn't eat beef because of mad cow disease, but I
am much better now. I like it medium rare, thank you very much.

But no haggis.

::wanders off in search of breakfast::
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: fasboy4001 on August 05, 2004, 06:28:46 PM
im veggie.
its not for health reasons (im a drug adict)
its not for religious reasons (im an athiest)
its not for moral reasons (im a thief)
i just got a job at mcdonalds and decided ide had enough

anyway, i try not to preach, but i do tease veggies and non veggies, just i make fun of everydbody else.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: chaosgraves:agentoferis on August 05, 2004, 06:37:48 PM
Quote from: fasboy4001
i just got a job at mcdonalds and decided ide had enough
god. If working at a resturaunt did this to you try getting a job at a vegitarian place... but I guess you have to eat something.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Schweinepriester G. on August 05, 2004, 06:47:55 PM
As long as they don't preach i don't care what they don't eat but i know this really funny girl. She is vegan, works for the animal testing group at the uni, has stuffed animals and wears leather and has some selfmade bone pendant yet insists she is vegan because of her beliefs. Them obviously being that you can kill maim, torture and kill animals for fun and profit but don't ever dare eat them. ;)
Title: Re: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Slarti on August 05, 2004, 06:49:38 PM
Quote from: Slartibartfast
Quote from: Hotsuma
Well I think that it's wrong to kill animals.
as a general rule of thumb, people who use this are usually wearing leather shoes. apparently your against killing animals unless it's for your benifit. hypocrite.

maybe you've only met poser veggies, but i've met people that seriously didn't want to harm animals. they went out of their way to not do anything like wearing leather shoes and such.


Quote from: Hotsuma
it's the same thing is if I went out and started eating little kids
aside from the obvious "what the fuck are you smoking?!" response. I'm still going to eat meat, if you go out and start eating children it's not going to make me change my mind.

some people don't consider humans to be any greater than other animals (i included). therefore in their minds, that arguement is valid.



Quote from: Hotsuma
Recent discoveries in the fossile records show that our ancestors' brains didn't start to increase in size until there was animal protien in their diet. how does one get animal protien in their diet? duh, eating animals. simply put, the human race wouldn't be here today if we hadn't eaten other animals. we have canines, they're designed for tearing flesh. we're omnivores. were supposed to eat meat and non-meat items.

so? just because it helps us out, doesn't make it right.

Quote from: Hotsuma
and lets not forget that not eating meat can seriously fuck up your your diet. many vegitarians don't get enough protien in their diet. it also much easier to eat meat and veggies/fruit as opposed to keeping track of what fruits/veggies you've eaten so you know when your protien levels are in the green.

their choice. why does it bother you so much?

Quote from: Hotsuma
ironicly enough, plenty of veg-heads eat Jello.
NEWS FLASH: Gelatin is made out of meat you dim wits. next time you make chicken stock put some of it in the fridge overnight, and in the morning tell me what popular desert item is now in the container.

maybe PLENTY of them do, but not all. don't put down a whole group based on the actions of a poser majority.

Quote from: Hotsuma
and to top it off, it doesn't matter if you don't eat meat. people are still going to buy it. your not saving any animals by depriving yourself of meat.

it's not about changing anything. it's about making a concious decision to not do it. by not eating meat, their conscience is clear. why do you care enough to bash them on a thread like this?

Quote from: Hotsumaany veg-heads are more than welcome to post arguments for me to shoot down.

still waiting  :o
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: chaosgraves:agentoferis on August 05, 2004, 06:52:15 PM
Quote from: Schweinepriester G.As long as they don't preach i don't care what they don't eat but i know this really funny girl. She is vegan, works for the animal testing group at the uni, has stuffed animals and wears leather and has some selfmade bone pendant yet insists she is vegan because of her beliefs. Them obviously being that you can kill maim, torture and kill animals for fun and profit but don't ever dare eat them. ;)
hhhhmmmm so she might be buddhist is what your saying.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Lister on August 05, 2004, 07:31:44 PM
Strangely enough I've never been bothered by vegans (and consorts)...

The few times the subjects arises in conversation, I always ask why they don't eat meat...

"I don't like the taste of meat" (or something likewise) is about the only reason I accept for not eating meat...
(And maybe health reasons as well, although I never encountered them)

Reasons involving honor or conscience get to deal with sarcasm, scorn or /ignore...

(The above assuming of course that someone else broached the subject to me...  I generally don't go out of my way to bother people about their eating habits...)
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 05, 2004, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: Hwarang

Ever notice how sallow and crappy the skin of a vegetarian looks? Almost universally, their skin lacks a healthy hue. Nutrition deficiency.

all i gotta say to this is i've outworked almost every meat eater i've worked with..  being in good physical condition isn't related to eating meat.  some people are just pansies.

kim
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Bella on August 05, 2004, 07:47:56 PM
Quote from: sakredchao
Quote from: Hwarang

Ever notice how sallow and crappy the skin of a vegetarian looks? Almost universally, their skin lacks a healthy hue. Nutrition deficiency.

all i gotta say to this is i've outworked almost every meat eater i've worked with..  being in good physical condition isn't related to eating meat.  some people are just pansies.

kim
Yup. There's a Budhist temple just down the road from my house.
None of the people there eat meat and they have beautiful skin and shiney hair.
They also work circles around most of the other people I know and seem to have tons of energy left over.

PS: Hi, Hwarang! Nice to meet you.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Hwarang on August 05, 2004, 08:20:02 PM
Well, I must admit it was a broad generalization.

But I have known quite a few vegetarians or vegans whose skin improved once they fell off the wagon. I guess it's just something I noticed and of course doesn't apply to everyone.

Also I suppose it could just be a product of poor diet (for example, I used to have a vegetarian GF, but the truth is she was just too lazy too cook and too cheap to buy real food, so she subsisted on grape gatorade and pizza combos... her skin improved when i got her to eat meat).

And yea, some ppl are just wussball.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: chao on August 05, 2004, 09:25:27 PM
your signature line is making my head buzz like when i used to take acid in highschool.

i think i need to eat some lettuce, or the lawn.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: DJRubberducky on August 05, 2004, 09:35:04 PM
[the square root of -1] before [the base of natural logarithms], except after [the speed of light].
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Horab Fibslager on August 06, 2004, 12:37:12 AM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
Quote from: sakredchao
Quote from: Hwarang

Ever notice how sallow and crappy the skin of a vegetarian looks? Almost universally, their skin lacks a healthy hue. Nutrition deficiency.

all i gotta say to this is i've outworked almost every meat eater i've worked with..  being in good physical condition isn't related to eating meat.  some people are just pansies.

kim
Yup. There's a Budhist temple just down the road from my house.
None of the people there eat meat and they have beautiful skin and shiney hair.
They also work circles around most of the other people I know and seem to have tons of energy left over.

PS: Hi, Hwarang! Nice to meet you.

irckon that sorta thign has ntohign to do with veggies, and more to be wacked out on life. if i had more energy i'd enver get a wink in, adn my diet is moremeat than anythign else(cept maybe patatoes ironically)
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Wishfarple on August 06, 2004, 12:51:27 AM
Quote from: Hwarang3.14159265358... vs. 1.61803398874... = ?

Are we trying to start another Aliens vs. Predator thread?  

Because I gotta tell ya, I'm not a big fan of Pi.  The filling's good, though.

Fibonacci 4-evah!!!
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 06, 2004, 04:55:46 AM
aww, ducky that was cute.

i'm a fan of pi cause i know more of it than the golden mean.

3.141592653589793238462689793238462643383

i was bored in 7th grade.

on the other hand it's a useless number.  
so i'd say that the golden mean wins out of coolness.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Guido Finucci on August 06, 2004, 05:36:21 AM
Quote from: sakredchaoon the other hand it's a useless number.  

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Title: Re: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Trollax on August 06, 2004, 05:43:36 AM
Quote from: HotsumaRead the topic title, then accept it as fact. why? because I've never heard a valid argument that supports vegitarianisim. allow me to recite a few.

Dietary Concerns
There are certain members of this species who are unable to properly digest animal proteins without supplimenting their bodies supplies of certain enzymes and chemicals. My own Mother and sister fit into this category. Without the replacement enzymes they consume every day meat makes them tremendously sick for days...

You may not agree with vegetariansim and yes, many vegetarians could not come up with a solid philosophical argument for it if you gave them an answer sheet and a year to think about it. But that makes it neither stupid, nor wrong.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Lempo on August 06, 2004, 10:37:37 AM
I'd suggest researching the subject you're writing about before posting.  Not doing so only makes you come out really ignorant.
Even consulting the American Dietetic Association will tell you something about the issue.


My old grandmother understands that "some people want to eat their vegetables as vegetables, not as a cow," as she puts it, without having had anyone explain the environmental issues 0))) brought up (and which people posting here with great success ignored) to her, so I'm really surprised that a lot of the people here who are given information about the issue still stick to their clever "durrrrr, they eat carrots because they like fuzzy animals" arguments.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 06, 2004, 04:05:54 PM
hsahahahahhahah
:p
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Rupert Giles on August 06, 2004, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: Llama Wishfart Rinpoche
Quote from: Hwarang3.14159265358... vs. 1.61803398874... = ?

Are we trying to start another Aliens vs. Predator thread?  

Because I gotta tell ya, I'm not a big fan of Pi.  The filling's good, though.

Fibonacci 4-evah!!!

On the next episode of Celebrity Mathematics Deathmatch!

It's a free-for-all between Pi, I, Tau, and sqrt(2)!
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 06, 2004, 06:06:46 PM
pi would run circles around the rest of them.
i would be invisible
radical 2 would be busy trying to triangulate stuff
and tau is going to confuse everyone
and the golden mean would whoop ass on all of them, cause it's MEAN.


seriously, what's tau..?  i looked it up and just ended up blinking a lot and found myself wanting to hit the bourbon at 11am.

someone just told me "something to do with electric permeability"..  
mmmm  bourbon.
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: Rupert Giles on August 06, 2004, 06:09:05 PM
Quote from: sakredchaopi would run circles around the rest of them.
i would be invisible
radical 2 would be busy trying to triangulate stuff
and tau is going to confuse everyone
and the golden mean would whoop ass on all of them, cause it's MEAN.


seriously, what's tau..?  i looked it up and just ended up blinking a lot and found myself wanting to hit the bourbon at 11am.

someone just told me "something to do with electric permeability"..  
mmmm  bourbon.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TauFunction.html
Title: Hotsuma's Ranting: Vegitarianisim is fucking stupid.
Post by: sakredchao on August 06, 2004, 06:21:12 PM
i hate you!  and i hate that page!
i have been sent there 3 times in the last 10 minutes.  it doens't say anything!!  not a damned thing!  it's a bunch of garbledeguck!

http://mathforum.org/epigone/sci.math.symbolic/chixdwumnin/EyrqL4.CBu@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca

ok.  i like you again now.