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However, optimism as a social attitude is an inherently infantile position which refuses to accept the possibility of failure, criticism or doubt.

"When encouraged as a social attitude it is an infantalizing force which removes the individual's conscious power to criticize, refuse and Doubt."  p.224

And fuck you all I have contacted John Ralston Saul's agent, and publisher so go sit and spin.

You can't be asked to read. I know so go fuck yourself and I'll go do the same. Just look into your heroes and realizes John Wayne sucked as much cock as Roger does!

there are many. many direct quotes which I didn't bother with

I call your bluff.  The chances of having similar entries would naturally be higher than random, because the whole point is that these are widely-used terms that are being used, mis-used, abused, and subverted.  It's an Alphabet of Bullshit for fuck's sake.  Of course Business Schools, Democracy, and Facts would have a greater than average probability of being used as terms.  Add to that Cain's well-known history of knowledge regarding Western philosophy and political theory, and it's almost a guarantee that Kant and Mussolini would be picked.

So, please to offer direct quotes.

No the ISBN number and page numbers are real! You asshole! Look them up yourself! Page numbers are correct I am not your middle school teacher if your butt feathers are not in order that's your fault.

Oh your golden idol may not glow as much! Do your own homework you worm!

Also, maybe you'd like to see my drafts for all the other options I did for each letter, and discarded because I either felt they weren't good enough, or didn't quite convey what I was trying to get across. 

Let's see, for A I also had:

A=A
Ancien Regime
A Levels
Ancient Greeks, Not Influenced By
Advertising
Anglican Church

All which have written entries for.  Each other letter has about the same amount written for it.  I'd write out several, then pick the one I felt was best.

Oh and all sixteen entries align exactly with John Ralston Saul? Then my odds of hitting the lottery outta be really freaking low right?

Yeah, I know I suck but at least I'm man enough to swallow!

Nice and articulate response, Cain.

I was being subtle and ironic hoping you would stop with my post in this thread but no you had to just keep flipping through the pages and acting like we don't read in the States so go Fuck yourself!

The plagiarism is there for all to read for themselves and you can try to hide behind the people you have fooled into believing you are their golden boy but truth is truth. The entries do not lie even though you do.

It is no wonder this forum is dying if you represent original thought.

peace out

This is BRILLIANT!

Cain you have out done yourself.

Reminiscent of John Ralston Saul's "The Doubter's Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense" as well as his "Voltaire's Bastards". I have to agree with the others that want to see this put into print.

Thanks and please keep it coming.



Z_M

Thank you.  JRS is a huge influence on my thinking, so I take that to be a great compliment.

I'm still deciding what to do in regards to O.  I should have some time this weekend to do a number of installments, though.

M is for Memory Loss.

I already admitted JRS was a huge influence on this.  Incidentally, I wouldn't know if I was copying the Doubter's Dictionary or not, because I sold mine 2 years ago.

I'd also like to think, if I was copying, it wouldn't take me so long to come up with an entry for each letter.

Hmmm, teachers in this country would have to say FAIL!!

Sounds more like you knew you got called out and laid off the obvious for your own dignities sake. But whatever.

Plus, there are many. many direct quotes which I didn't bother with because it is just to sad. So pat yourself on the back and continue with the fraud of your life if it makes you feel special.

[P is for PLAGIARISM]

In the spirit of PD, I'm not erasing Zen Magick's bullshit, but I am splitting it from the main thread.  Everyone gets their say, but that doesn't mean a thread being enjoyed by everyone except that particular bitter little prick has to be ruined.

Any further bullshit on THAT thread will be in THIS thread, the next time I log in.

- Roger

P is for PLAGIARISM

The DOUBTER'S COMPANION: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense Saul, John Ralston. The Free Press: NY, 1994. ISBN 0-02-927722-1

A is for Answers - page 25
B is for Business Schools - pages 50-51
C is for Corporatism - pages 74-79
D is for Direct Democracy p.106-109
E is for Elites - p.119
F is for Facts - p.127-128
G is for Growth - p.148-152
H is for Hard Work - p.157-158
I is for Instrumental Reason - p.175-177
J is for Jobs - p.184-185
K is for Kant, Immanuel - p.187-188
L is for Ludendorff, Erich - p.197
M is for Mussolini, Benito - p.209-211
N is for Neo-Conservative - p.218-220
O is for Optimism - p.223-224
P is for Philosophy - p.231-233

Or is P really for phoney or paraphraser?

From a religious studies dork (i.e. me),

The Gospel of Thomas, Mary, Judas are not Apocryphal because they were not not censored out of the original canon. These are all texts discovered in the last hundred years either in the nag hammadi library or as a part of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Being gnostic texts they present varying views of the origins and beliefs of an emerging Christianity and do not reflect upon the "Church" as Paul built it.

Not to say that the Church would not have burnt them anyway but its like comparing cricket to baseball.

When it comes to Sandy Hook,

The mother owned the guns because she was FRIGHTENED of her own son. The movie theater shooter's mother's first response was "You have the right person". This implies known psychological problems and a lack of action due to parents.

Should we be looking at responsible parenting and not guns?

Just asking

You're talking out your ass.

No one knows why the mother owned the guns, or, in fact, for certain whether they were hers.

She got the kid plenty of mental health help.

There is no evidence that indicates she should have known this was going to happen.

The emphasis on the mother knowing was for the Colorado incident. And from now on if i give a shit I will add the links so you know its from our local media and not my ass. Then you can deconstruct the media from your holy than thou mentality.

And Income Disparity really!  Give StarHawk a hug from me as you support another nebulous idea that made exactly how much of a difference with the Occupy Movement?

Oh what we fixed the world and I missed it? 

As long as guns exist, people will use them to harm other people.

If you believe that the second amendment entitles citizens to own some guns, then gun control WILL NOT stop future incidents like these.

We can pass some gun controls laws (disregarding for a moment the constitutional issues) but this will only make us feel better rather than actually solving or helping to solve the problem.

I have to agree with Rat on this one.  And from that, we should be looking at a wider context and work at reducing the larger culture's propensity for violence.  Which leads us (me, at least) to agree with Nigel's idea regarding income disparity.

I agree with this considering inner city violence but the larger scale blow ups seem to be from wealthy families. It maybe a case of our family can't have these problems so we ignore them?

wow,

Nice Roger, reminds me of the dream Jung had and when he told Freud about it all the Shit Hit the Fan! A basement or the unconscious can pack a whole lot of memories and truths. But just like the attic you can run into a kid eating fish-heads.

very well written, thanks for putting it in one place for us

When it comes to Sandy Hook,

The mother owned the guns because she was FRIGHTENED of her own son. The movie theater shooter's mother's first response was "You have the right person". This implies known psychological problems and a lack of action due to parents.

Should we be looking at responsible parenting and not guns?

Just asking

Yeah,

My sister, took my nephew to the doctor, he walked into the waiting room and saw the kid reading a magazine and said get him out of here.

Nothing like medical doping to replace discipline.

I remember hearing "Sit down and shut up!" along with the threat of the paddle to keep my dumb ass in line.

oh the good old days...

How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Jesus fuck.

I now have to reconsider my opinion on home schooling.

Which was the exact response by my little sister. Home schooled both children now one is ready to graduate from college.

So things have to be measured a little weirdly these days.

How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.