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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: outoftheloop on January 18, 2014, 05:55:20 PM

Title: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: outoftheloop on January 18, 2014, 05:55:20 PM
Felt like this thread should exist. Anything russia-related, innit.

Now, my Russia-related question:

WTF is happening in Russia. Putin (who makes me seriously question my scepticism towards the "reptiles control the world" conspiracies) has been acting so fucking sleezy and he's constantly getting away with it and manages to get framed as a "good guy" in the end. He's basically abolishing state-church separation to frame a scapegoat of the LGBT community and galvinizing people in the country. Even worse, his propaganda is strong in other places too, especially ex-communist countries, where everyone who says anything against the official stance of the government is being framed as a "foreign agent of those western bastards that just want to fuck us over". And while all of this is terrible, the explenation of "Putin is an evil reptile" doesn't really cut it. So, could any of you politically savvy spags (I'm looking at you Cain) explain to me what the purpose and context behind his actions is (apart from "MOAR POWER TO GLORIOUS MOTHER RUSSIA").

thanks. 
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Cain on January 18, 2014, 09:57:08 PM
Uh, do I know you?

Because I've just spent the last week reading about 60 different papers, and writing a high level piece of work on quantitative research issues (7 hours just today).  So I'm not especially inclined to go into a long history of Russia's cultural-political preferences and the post-KGB career of Vladimir Putin, most of which you could find out for yourself with some time on Wikipedia, some medium-brow magazines like The Atlantic or Harpers and a dose of common sense
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
And, I'd just like to note, the person who posted this has not logged back in since before I replied.  So, if I or anyone else had done an indepth post about Russia, the spag wouldn't have read it anyway.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2014, 08:26:30 PM
Meh.  He called you out, then ran away.

I'm shocked.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Cain on January 22, 2014, 08:42:05 PM
True.  It's nice to have one's suspicions confirmed, though.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: outoftheloop on January 23, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
So is it just a matter of Russia being empirialistic as fuck and trying to get all of the ex-commie countries on their side? Which I'm guessing is related to their gas-distribution schemes. I guess my question is more something like "Do you think that Russia is doing this just for the sake of obtaining more financial/territorial/political power, or is the obtainment of more power a required step/preparation for something else?"
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Random Probability on January 23, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: outoftheloop on January 23, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
So is it just a matter of Russia being empirialistic as fuck and trying to get all of the ex-commie countries on their side? Which I'm guessing is related to their gas-distribution schemes. I guess my question is more something like "Do you think that Russia is doing this just for the sake of obtaining more financial/territorial/political power, or is the obtainment of more power a required step/preparation for something else?"

I've noticed you do a lot of guessing.

I'm going to second Cain's suggestion that you go read wikipedia or something.

srsly
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: whenhellfreezes on January 23, 2014, 09:07:25 PM
Quote from: Random Probability on January 23, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: outoftheloop on January 23, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
So is it just a matter of Russia being empirialistic as fuck and trying to get all of the ex-commie countries on their side? Which I'm guessing is related to their gas-distribution schemes. I guess my question is more something like "Do you think that Russia is doing this just for the sake of obtaining more financial/territorial/political power, or is the obtainment of more power a required step/preparation for something else?"

I've noticed you do a lot of guessing.

I'm going to second Cain's suggestion that you go read wikipedia or something.

srsly

Guessing is bad? I guess I better be real sure of myself before talking.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Salty on January 24, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
No, don't guess, be certain of that fact. I am, that and clean living made me the well adjusted human I am today.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
No, don't guess, be certain of that fact. I am, that and clean living made me the well adjusted human I am today.

Oops. I am just trying so hard to fit in. Hey cain you know all about politics and such and things. Tell me everything. EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Salty on January 24, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
No, don't guess, be certain of that fact. I am, that and clean living made me the well adjusted human I am today.

Oops. I am just trying so hard to fit in. Hey cain you know all about politics and such and things. Tell me everything. EVERYTHING.

:troll:

You fuckers need to try harder,
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 01:21:58 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
No, don't guess, be certain of that fact. I am, that and clean living made me the well adjusted human I am today.

Oops. I am just trying so hard to fit in. Hey cain you know all about politics and such and things. Tell me everything. EVERYTHING.

:troll:

You fuckers need to try harder,

Just wait, I need cain to get here so I can show you how smart I am.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Salty on January 24, 2014, 03:34:51 AM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 01:21:58 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
No, don't guess, be certain of that fact. I am, that and clean living made me the well adjusted human I am today.

Oops. I am just trying so hard to fit in. Hey cain you know all about politics and such and things. Tell me everything. EVERYTHING.

:troll:

You fuckers need to try harder,

Just wait, I need cain to get here so I can show you how smart I am.

Why yes, repeating the same tired shit WILL make it funny. At some point.

Probably.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Salty on January 24, 2014, 03:37:16 AM
Do you guys smell ancient butthurt in the form of a sockpuppet?

It is THICK, ITT.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 04:46:25 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 03:34:51 AM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 01:21:58 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
No, don't guess, be certain of that fact. I am, that and clean living made me the well adjusted human I am today.

Oops. I am just trying so hard to fit in. Hey cain you know all about politics and such and things. Tell me everything. EVERYTHING.

:troll:

You fuckers need to try harder,

Just wait, I need cain to get here so I can show you how smart I am.

Why yes, repeating the same tired shit WILL make it funny. At some point.

Probably.

Whelp, I was having fun though it was repetitive.

Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 03:37:16 AM
Do you guys smell ancient butthurt in the form of a sockpuppet?

It is THICK, ITT.

Some fun restored.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Left on January 24, 2014, 05:50:55 AM
...Posting this link because...*shrug*
(Mainly so I'll remember to look through it myself tomorrow, really)

http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/putin-timeline/

...And this happened a while ago, and my thought at the time was that it's indicative that...well, the guy's a dick.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/22429359/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-vladimir-putin-stole-my-super-bowl-ring
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Cain on January 24, 2014, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: outoftheloop on January 23, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
So is it just a matter of Russia being empirialistic as fuck and trying to get all of the ex-commie countries on their side? Which I'm guessing is related to their gas-distribution schemes. I guess my question is more something like "Do you think that Russia is doing this just for the sake of obtaining more financial/territorial/political power, or is the obtainment of more power a required step/preparation for something else?"

No.

Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 23, 2014, 09:07:25 PM
Guessing is bad? I guess I better be real sure of myself before talking.

Yes.

Quote from: whenhellfreezes on January 24, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
Oops. I am just trying so hard to fit in. Hey cain you know all about politics and such and things. Tell me everything. EVERYTHING.

No.

Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
You fuckers need to try harder,

Yes.

Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2014, 03:34:51 AM
Why yes, repeating the same tired shit WILL make it funny. At some point.

Probably.

No.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: outoftheloop on January 24, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
Man, fuck that. I'll become really good at politics, you'll see! And when my day comes, Cain, you will look like an amateur as I reveal to you how the world really works for real!!! :argh!:

Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Cain on January 24, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
Quote from: outoftheloop on January 24, 2014, 12:44:49 PM
Man, fuck that. I'll become really good at politics, you'll see!
Yes?

Quote from: outoftheloop on January 24, 2014, 12:44:49 PMAnd when my day comes, Cain, you will look like an amateur as I reveal to you how the world really works for real!!! :argh!:

No.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Reginald Ret on January 24, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
 :lulz:
Cain, you are cracking me up.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2014, 02:14:50 PM
Seconded.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Cain on January 24, 2014, 02:39:01 PM
:thanks:
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: LMNO on January 24, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: :regret: on January 24, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
:lulz:
Cain, you are cracking me up.

Yes.
Title: Re: Unlimited Russia Thread
Post by: Telarus on January 24, 2014, 05:18:06 PM
:lol: