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#12481
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2011, 07:03:50 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 06, 2011, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2011, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 06, 2011, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2011, 04:59:04 PM
I am a pretty experiential, experimental person. However, with all the awesome goofy drugs that grow in plants and have been around for millennia co-evolving with us and NOT causing massive brain damage, severe life-destroying addiction, and self-destructive and/or violent dissociative behavior, it absolutely baffles me why anyone would seek out some synthetic wild card rather than one of the relatively safe psychoactives that have been around for long enough to know what they really do to you.

On a related note, did you know that alcoholism wasn't a big problem until we learned to distill that shit on a widespread and inexpensive basis? Suddenly we went from swilling weak homebrews morning, noon and night to swilling hard liquor morning, noon and night. Our brains basically evolved to find alcohol pleasurable, and in mild doses, it is very pleasurable indeed. Suddenly, though, our poor little monkey brains were getting saturated with concentrations tens of times stronger than we were adapted for, and for a time drunkenness was a plague, leading to Prohibition (which never made sense to me until I started watching this documentary... now it makes perfect sense, even though it was an unsuccessful reaction to a real and severe problem).

We seem to be gradually adapting to the availability of strong alcohol, fortunately. Or unfortunately; I don't know.

Villager and I watched the same one. PBS rules!

yeah, it was really fascinating! And I was intrigued by all the strong women temperance activists. I am also always amused by the term "longtime companion" that tends to show up in documentaries about Ye Olde Tymes. Someday long after I'm dead, I want someone to describe Mr. Language as "Ms. Nigel's longtime companion".

:lulz: Yeah, when they said "her secretary and long time companion" I did the quotation fingers. I liked Carrie Nation. Not her position. But just the sheer amount of destruction she brought to Kansas. On one hand I was like, "but all that booze!" and on the other I was like, "Hellz yeah, half insane woman fucking up Kansas with a hatchet! Bitches don't know about her tomahawks!"

I know! I was all, BITCH IS CRAZY!

That's how shit gets done.

I liked how they introduced her, like "her mother died in an insane asylum thinking she was Queen Victoria" and my thought was, I like where I think this is going. I was not disappointed.
#12482
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2011, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 06, 2011, 06:10:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2011, 04:59:04 PM
I am a pretty experiential, experimental person. However, with all the awesome goofy drugs that grow in plants and have been around for millennia co-evolving with us and NOT causing massive brain damage, severe life-destroying addiction, and self-destructive and/or violent dissociative behavior, it absolutely baffles me why anyone would seek out some synthetic wild card rather than one of the relatively safe psychoactives that have been around for long enough to know what they really do to you.

On a related note, did you know that alcoholism wasn't a big problem until we learned to distill that shit on a widespread and inexpensive basis? Suddenly we went from swilling weak homebrews morning, noon and night to swilling hard liquor morning, noon and night. Our brains basically evolved to find alcohol pleasurable, and in mild doses, it is very pleasurable indeed. Suddenly, though, our poor little monkey brains were getting saturated with concentrations tens of times stronger than we were adapted for, and for a time drunkenness was a plague, leading to Prohibition (which never made sense to me until I started watching this documentary... now it makes perfect sense, even though it was an unsuccessful reaction to a real and severe problem).

We seem to be gradually adapting to the availability of strong alcohol, fortunately. Or unfortunately; I don't know.

Villager and I watched the same one. PBS rules!

yeah, it was really fascinating! And I was intrigued by all the strong women temperance activists. I am also always amused by the term "longtime companion" that tends to show up in documentaries about Ye Olde Tymes. Someday long after I'm dead, I want someone to describe Mr. Language as "Ms. Nigel's longtime companion".

:lulz: Yeah, when they said "her secretary and long time companion" I did the quotation fingers. I liked Carrie Nation. Not her position. But just the sheer amount of destruction she brought to Kansas. On one hand I was like, "but all that booze!" and on the other I was like, "Hellz yeah, half insane woman fucking up Kansas with a hatchet! Bitches don't know about her tomahawks!"
#12483
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Occupy
October 06, 2011, 06:52:09 PM
Occupy Boston seems to be going rather quietly. Menino made some comment about making sure the protesters have ample food and restroom accommodations, room for tents,  on the evening news.
#12484
Quote from: Luna on October 06, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 06, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
Fuck. Is Columbus going to hinder me from returning to Boston?  :lulz:

Check the schedule, but I don't see why.  Station is a hike, but walking distance, so, fuck traffic.

First train is at 11:20. Which is kinda good, because that will get me to Dorchester at right around the time that Adams Village will be full of buzzed Irish people. And Anglos who somehow they were Irish along the way.
#12485
Quote from: Net on October 06, 2011, 06:31:05 PM
Speaking as a fairly young male, I'm betting that Dalek is going to do it anyway and tell us about how our concerns were way overblown.

Probably. I'll stick with booze and the occasional bit of herb. It's all you really need, if that.
#12486
Quote from: Nigel on October 06, 2011, 04:59:04 PM
I am a pretty experiential, experimental person. However, with all the awesome goofy drugs that grow in plants and have been around for millennia co-evolving with us and NOT causing massive brain damage, severe life-destroying addiction, and self-destructive and/or violent dissociative behavior, it absolutely baffles me why anyone would seek out some synthetic wild card rather than one of the relatively safe psychoactives that have been around for long enough to know what they really do to you.

On a related note, did you know that alcoholism wasn't a big problem until we learned to distill that shit on a widespread and inexpensive basis? Suddenly we went from swilling weak homebrews morning, noon and night to swilling hard liquor morning, noon and night. Our brains basically evolved to find alcohol pleasurable, and in mild doses, it is very pleasurable indeed. Suddenly, though, our poor little monkey brains were getting saturated with concentrations tens of times stronger than we were adapted for, and for a time drunkenness was a plague, leading to Prohibition (which never made sense to me until I started watching this documentary... now it makes perfect sense, even though it was an unsuccessful reaction to a real and severe problem).

We seem to be gradually adapting to the availability of strong alcohol, fortunately. Or unfortunately; I don't know.

Villager and I watched the same one. PBS rules!
#12487
Quote from: el sjaako on October 06, 2011, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: Nph. Twid. on October 06, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Ecstasy, for example, was prescribed for marriage counseling. Now we know it tears holes in your brain while simultaneously causing you to like bad techno and glow sticks.

This is not actually true (although it is still being pushed as such by some agencies). See, for instance, http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/apr/18/drugsandalcohol.

Research chemicals can be dangerous, but the point is nobody really knows. All drugs, including generally accepted safe ones like ritalin, were once research chemicals, and they should be judged on a case by case basis.



The bolded part is still true, and a far worse side-effect.
#12488
Cuz, I mean, The Irish Heritage Festival is ALSO on Sunday in Villager's neighborhood.
#12489
Fuck. Is Columbus going to hinder me from returning to Boston?  :lulz:
#12490
Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Re: Hey Squiddy!
October 06, 2011, 07:14:03 AM
:cheers:
#12491
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Mind Reading Machine
October 06, 2011, 06:40:27 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 06, 2011, 03:41:50 AM
This must never be allowed to fall into the hands of the government!

Which government? There's about 200 of them, yeah?
#12492
Medical research is slow for a reason. You need to see the long term effects of something on a human. This might take up to 30 years of research to see all of the side effects, some of which can be very serious and delayed. If you want to be an epidemiology statistic, at least do science a favor and enroll in a study that will track your health and cognitive abilities for the next 20 years.
#12493
Every illegal drug was considered safe for a few years after humans started using them. Most of them were found to be dangerous after those couple of years.

Ecstasy, for example, was prescribed for marriage counseling. Now we know it tears holes in your brain while simultaneously causing you to like bad techno and glow sticks.

If you're going to do a drug, at least do one where you know what you're getting into. That way you can confidently say "I am incredibly stupid" and then realize that yes, you are, instead of saying it and then try and convince yourself that you're not and just trying to have a good old time with something safe.

Go drink a couple of pints, smoke a j, maybe eat some fungus that grew on cow shit, which we've known about and studied in various ways for, oh I don't know, essentially all of human history. Don't roll on something that came out in 2006 and isn't well understood. If you're going to do a relatively new drug, at least make sure that it has been around longer than you have, so you have better info on long term effects.
#12494
Principia Discussion / Re: Honor a deceased discordian?
October 06, 2011, 01:29:12 AM
Quote from: Carika on October 06, 2011, 01:11:17 AM
I'm sure he would of gotten a kick out of seeing me in here reading all your great answers. He was unlike anyone I've ever met and I'll always love and respect him.

Someone mentioned something about his ashes not being available, in fact he was buried there in Papua New Guinea. I'm not even sure if there's something there to mark the spot. I do have some clothes of his I was thinking of burning to get the ashes from and spread those somewhere.

Everyone here is right about this not being an event to cry but one to celebrate so I think bowling on friday having hot dogs and vegan cupcakes will be the way to go.

:cheers:
#12495
Dude, Kai's right. Just stick to booze. You're from Bulgaria, right? Should be readily available