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[About the D.I.S.L.I.B.]

We thought since it's still 5/23/17 in this time zone, it might be the right day to make this public, even though it isn't 100% ready yet...

D.I.S.L.I.B. - the Discordian Internet Society's Library of Interesting Books

About the D.I.S.L.I.B.

The D.I.S.L.I.B. is the Discordian Internet Society's Library of Interesting Books. Or maybe "DISLIB" is just short for Discordian Library. Who knows?

It is a collection of all kinds of stuff, may they be discordian, discordian-related or just interesting for chaotic scholars and followers of other silly cults. We hope that all the collected stuff we are offering is free. In case it isn't, and especially if it is your un-free stuff we are offering *gulp* illegaly here, just tell us (as soon as the corresponding forms are ready), and we take it down.

As you might have guessed from the logo - a winged St. Gulik that has been shamelessly adapted to a pseudo-retro-egyptian style - we have been inspired by the ancient Library of Alexandria. Also, by the Bibliotheca Anonoma project, the Discordian Archives and the Discordian Online Library of the​ M'.'M'.'M'.'​​​, which also provided the base for our current stock.

Speaking of "we" all the time, you might wonder who we are. Maybe you don't. We tell you anyway. Currently, there's two of us: Abbot Ron Oxymo, head of the Ordo Dea Discordia and His Quasaric Sphericity the Bwana Honolulu, head of Zimmer523, the German Discordian AnArchive. But we are open for applications.

Also, submissions. Are you missing some important work? Maybe your own? Give us a hint (again, as soon as the corresponding forms are ready).

A lot of stuff is still missing from the list. We are working on that. And yes, there are other online libraries of free discordian books out there, we know. But redundancy might make sure this stuff won't disappear so quickly, and maybe we can kinda network those libraries. Also we noticed that other listings are very much english-centered, and so we try to cover more languages. There's already some german-language stuff online as well as portuguese writings in the queue.

You know what we do to people who build clocks at home, right?  This was widely broadcast in every media.

That's why there is a sticker inside the lid of my PirateBox labeled "NOT A BOMB".

Wow, that's a great idea, I think I'm gonna use this kind of layout for my German stuff as well.

You could always upload it somewhere else (e.g. https://mega.nz/ ) and post the link.

Yeah, actually wanted to do that. Uhm. Later.

Now. Sorry, I totally forgot.

Link opens up a full page ad I can't close.

You surf without an ad blocker? Are you suicidal?
Sr(sl)y now, I haven't visited the forum without an ad blocker in ages because some of the ads were already too annoying, so I don't know how bad that might have become in the meantime.

Over the last year over 50,000 deaths were attributable directly to surprise. Blackpool is little more than a corpse depot at this point and things are looking grim for other coastal towns in the UK.

They may be dead, but they won't age anymore, either.

Also hi other guy or whatever.

Hi back to you from the other guy or whatever.

Cool, you might just have recruited a new member. I specialize in funny memes too!

It seems that unintelligible and punny forum categories are mandatory for these types of forums.

Traditional rather than mandatory. But yes, indeed.

That's nice and all but I honestly couldn't find the translation projects.

I'm not even sure we have a forum for that already, but there is a namespace for ongoing translation projects in our Wiki. Now that I think about it, it's a namespace that is only visible to authorized members. I'm sure I can get you in if you like.

Thanks for the formatting help, though.

No problem.

You could always upload it somewhere else (e.g. https://mega.nz/ ) and post the link.

Yeah, actually wanted to do that. Uhm. Later.

You're new to me, too. Maybe that's the secret to eternal youth?

And life is treating me OK. I'm procrastinating when I probably should be drawing a belated birthday card.

I'm not that new, I've just not been very active. Also, I guess some of the spags here might remember me from other occasions.

How about adding the forums of the oldest (somehow existing for about 20 years) and biggest (prove me wrong!) active (more or less) German (speaking) Discordian (Parenthesis) group, Aktion 23?

Also, the "Principia in German" on http://www.principia-discordia.de/ is dead and buried (and IMNSHO it wasn't a very good translation anyway ).

I corrected the mis-alignment but it seems I can't attach files here.

It only happens where you made line breaks instead of "real" paragraphs. You can see the difference in LibreOffice with this.

BTW: We have some German translation projects being stuck running at Aktion 23, if you wanna join?

[register a new US-controlled domain, host the same content that was deemed illegal, and it'll get taken down immediately, you're not going to get your content back up unless you put it on a free domain, so you might as well do that from the start]

But now I see you don't have your own domain.

Yet.

can you explain why it's like curing a disease by fatally poisoning the patient? I know the German gvmt isn't to be entirely trusted either (with the Bundestrojan, etc) but it's pretty hard to find places that are, and well, I'm fairly sure that the US is in fact worse.

Indeed, yet until this point I have never - and obviously neither have you since that's the reason for this thread to exist - noticed such a takedown of a .com as described.

can you tell me more about the legal mumbo-jumbo connected to .de domains?

Well, I remember a german court order wich temporarily prohibited redirection of wikipedia.de to de.wikipedia.org in a certain case.

Is it to do with the hate speech laws? Because I looked into that right after I found out about the Hetzner.de dedicated server offer, and it's really not nearly as bad as I thought. We'd be banning neo-nazis anyway, so now we gotta delete their posts too (or at least remove the swastikas or whatever)

We never had any problems about hate speech laws and I doubt any neo-nazi would ever dare joining our forums... both his brain cells would simply burn out while registering.

And no swastikas? Poor buddhists.

--the important part is, you get a notice if you would please take it down, and you don't get in trouble for it: it's WAY more lenient than the sort of fucked up shit you get into if you accidentally get copyrighted RIAA/MPAA material on your site and one of their lawyers sees it on their bad day (you need to be pretty unlucky, but it's been shown to happen)

Still we hadn't seen much problems about having a .com yet.
On the other hand, even in germany the so-called "content industry" has some grip as we have seen in the recent take-down of a german-speaking, german-operated, netherlands-hosted movie streaming site kino.to which was ordered by a german court.

Well that is one of the reasons why the new server is not going to be physically located in the US.

Sounds familiar to the thoughts we had.

You're right that losing the domain does not imply losing the data (I said the same in one of my earlier posts ITT), however:

- it's extremely inconvenient
- your domain will show an ugly US takedown notice banner
- your visitors will need to track down or figure out the new domain
- register a new US-controlled domain, host the same content that was deemed illegal, and it'll get taken down immediately, you're not going to get your content back up unless you put it on a free domain, so you might as well do that from the start
- also, the principle of the thing.

Yep, you're quite right about all this. I don't say staying away from operating a .com website is wrong - I just say a .de might not be the best replacement.

I actually believe privacy laws, on the whole, are stronger in Germany than in the USA.  Of course, this is like pointing out Genghis Khan is worse than Commodus...objectively speaking, we're still talking terrible, but the scale between the two should make it clear which is worse.

This.

Just to clarify: The reason for out decission for .com and against .de were:

• Never seen any trouble specific to .com (before the case this thread here), yet to .de (see above).
• We (Aktion 23) are a german-speaking forum of mostly germans which seems to make german jurisdiction focus faster and more easily on us when using a .de domain as well.
• In the end it seemed much easier for us to anonymously register a .com than a .de.
• And of course our future servers are located neither in the U.S. nor in germany.

When we get the dedicated set up, it might be worth configuring some non-US (sub)domain to point at it, just so people know beforehand where to go. I say sub domain, because they're basically free. We could ask the guys at the German Discordia forum (they seemed nice) maybe.

You're not probably talking about us, are you? Otherwise I would enjoy a link to the obviously unknown German Discordia forum.

Yeah when we move hosting to a German dedicated server, we might want to consider that.

I am not sure if you really want that, it's like curing a desease by permanently poisoning the patient. Actually we were planning to move our forums from our current hoster to a more professional one... while using a .com to avoid some german legal mumbo-jumbo that's connected to .de domains. Now this thread made me think about our .com decission...


Anyways. Time to panic?

Meh, I don't think so. As long as only a domain is seized yet the servers with all the data are still up and running and there's no partyvan in front of your house...