On the weekend I used the common term "OH MY GOD", and a friend (somewhat new to Discordianism) jokingly asked if I had meant "OH MY GODDESS"... I told him no, mostly because I like to say "oh my god" the way I imagine Ignatius J. Reilly saying it, with plenty of emphasis on the "god"...
...but I would have said it the same way even if I WERE referring to Eris because I find the term "goddess" to be a sexist term.
Isn't "God" good enough for deities of both gender?
I have always personally loathed terms like "actress" or "commedienne", and "goddess" irks me just as much.
Any opinions?
BVH
-always here to wonder about the really really important shit
I prefer the term "godette".
Good name for a band.
Or female gods who get pissed on the weekend, start breaking windows and getting into fights.
I can only accept the use of that term or any term of the like from someone who has created something interesting, or helped the world in some way.
You don't fucking get to be pedantic about shit that helps absolutely no one unless you earn it. Its just another bureaucracy and i hate it, same goes for gender neutral terms and most PC things. Your significant other better be Mr Hyde or I don't want to hear it.
Quote from: Faust on May 26, 2008, 02:09:33 PM
I can only accept the use of that term or any term of the like from someone who has created something interesting, or helped the world in some way.
You don't fucking get to be pedantic about shit that helps absolutely no one unless you earn it. Its just another bureaucracy and i hate it, same goes for gender neutral terms and most PC things. Your significant other better be Mr Hyde or I don't want to hear it.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Faust on May 26, 2008, 02:09:33 PM
I can only accept the use of that term(goddess for oh my god) or any term of the like(actress" or "commedienne) from someone who has created something interesting, or helped the world in some way.
You don't fucking get to be pedantic about terms that help absolutely no one, unless you earn it. Its just another bureaucracy and i hate it, same goes for gender neutral terms(hir etc) and most Politically correct terms. Your Significant Other better be Mr Hyde or I don't want to hear about him.
any better
Quote from: Hoopla on May 26, 2008, 01:38:08 PM
I have always personally loathed terms like "actress" or "commedienne", and "goddess" irks me just as much.
wow
you would really hate french
I always swear though to christian god though
cause apparently it suppose to really piss him off
Quote from: Faust on May 26, 2008, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 26, 2008, 02:09:33 PM
I can only accept the use of that term(goddess for oh my god) or any term of the like(actress" or "commedienne) from someone who has created something interesting, or helped the world in some way.
You don't fucking get to be pedantic about terms that help absolutely no one, unless you earn it. Its just another bureaucracy and i hate it, same goes for gender neutral terms(hir etc) and most Politically correct terms. Your Significant Other better be Mr Hyde or I don't want to hear about him.
any better
Yes, much. I agree with you.
Quote from: Hoopla on May 26, 2008, 01:38:08 PM
On the weekend I used the common term "OH MY GOD", and a friend (somewhat new to Discordianism) jokingly asked if I had meant "OH MY GODDESS"... I told him no, mostly because I like to say "oh my god" the way I imagine Ignatius J. Reilly saying it, with plenty of emphasis on the "god"...
...but I would have said it the same way even if I WERE referring to Eris because I find the term "goddess" to be a sexist term.
Isn't "God" good enough for deities of both gender?
I have always personally loathed terms like "actress" or "commedienne", and "goddess" irks me just as much.
Any opinions?
BVH
-always here to wonder about the really really important shit
I prefer not to make the queen cry while using her English.
Goddess will do for me.
But please tell me youwould never say "Oh my Goddess" or I shall weep like a little baby.
actually i believe he says "Merry Meet"
. . . uh oh . . .
:runs to hide in his bunker:
Quote from: Hoopla on May 26, 2008, 04:30:18 PM
But please tell me youwould never say "Oh my Goddess" or I shall weep like a little baby.
Of course not. That's just stupid.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2008, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on May 26, 2008, 01:38:08 PM
On the weekend I used the common term "OH MY GOD", and a friend (somewhat new to Discordianism) jokingly asked if I had meant "OH MY GODDESS"... I told him no, mostly because I like to say "oh my god" the way I imagine Ignatius J. Reilly saying it, with plenty of emphasis on the "god"...
...but I would have said it the same way even if I WERE referring to Eris because I find the term "goddess" to be a sexist term.
Isn't "God" good enough for deities of both gender?
I have always personally loathed terms like "actress" or "commedienne", and "goddess" irks me just as much.
Any opinions?
BVH
-always here to wonder about the really really important shit
I prefer not to make the queen cry while using her English.
Goddess will do for me.
:mittens:
Masculine and Feminine nouns predate sexism...
Though I don't usually say "Oh My Goddess" except maybe when I'm getting a really good lay, but that isn't referring to Eris :wink:
I say both, but I usually stick to "Goddess" when around mostly Christians, to distinguish myself from them, or just to incite some ranting about how God is male and HE WILL SODOMIZE YOU WITH HIS GREAT COCK OF JUSTICE if you think otherwise.
People meaning (to talk to) me had better use the adequate suffices (in German and French) or prefix (in Greek) because I simply do not realize that I am being addressed when they do not.
How people choose to address the deities of their choice is no concern of mine. I prefer not to encourage mine by talking directly to them but when I do I tend to use "bitch".
And people still able to talk while being laid are too fucking talkative.
Quote from: Dido on May 26, 2008, 07:31:07 PM
People meaning (to talk to) me had better use the adequate suffices (in German and French) or prefix (in Greek) because I simply do not realize that I am being addressed when they do not.
How people choose to address the deities of their choice is no concern of mine. I prefer not to encourage mine by talking directly to them but when I do I tend to use "bitch".
And people still able to talk while being laid are too fucking talkative not getting laid right.
Fixed.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 26, 2008, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Dido on May 26, 2008, 07:31:07 PM
People meaning (to talk to) me had better use the adequate suffices (in German and French) or prefix (in Greek) because I simply do not realize that I am being addressed when they do not.
How people choose to address the deities of their choice is no concern of mine. I prefer not to encourage mine by talking directly to them but when I do I tend to use "bitch".
And people still able to talk while being laid are too fucking talkative not getting laid right.
Fixed.
I was trying not to insult unknown persons. But yes.
Quote from: Hoopla on May 26, 2008, 01:38:08 PMOn the weekend I used the common term "OH MY GOD", and a friend (somewhat new to Discordianism) jokingly asked if I had meant "OH MY GODDESS"... I told him no, mostly because I like to say "oh my god" the way I imagine Ignatius J. Reilly saying it, with plenty of emphasis on the "god"...
...but I would have said it the same way even if I WERE referring to Eris because I find the term "goddess" to be a sexist term.
Isn't "God" good enough for deities of both gender?
I have always personally loathed terms like "actress" or "commedienne", and "goddess" irks me just as much.
Any opinions?
BVH
-always here to wonder about the really really important shit
it's a language thing.
english doesn't do very much anymore with the gender of words, but it's still rudimentarily there. a lot of other languages still have suffixes (or prefixes, or other contraptions) to denote gender, and not using them wouldn't just be a PC variation, but it would simply not be grammatical.
we have similar problems in Dutch, though. i try to ignore them as much as possible, because just as you don't get smarter by speaking e-prime, i don't think you can solve sexism by changing language either.
also, i do not say oh my goddess. i consider it sometimes, but like TGRR said, it would sound stupid. it's a single phrase, a muslim wouldn't say allahdamnit either.
I would say Oh My Goddess if people wouldn't confuse me for a run-of-the-mill pagan. I'm more of a run-off-the-mill pagan.
kidding of course. I don't consider myself a pagan, and the G in my OMG definitely stands for Gawd.
I assume folks would also not want to be labeled a weeaboo rather quickly.
(http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/images/movie/large/Oh_my_Goddess_poster.jpg)
How about weeaboo pagans?
Otakukin?
I dislike Invented Touchy Feely We Can All Have Our Own Words terms.
For example, the rank of of journeyman is just that--a rank. Therefore, we do not need to bastardize it into "journeywoman" nor do we need a "midshipwoman" when a "midshipman" will do fine thanks. Chairwoman? That sounds silly. (My boss, disliking being referred to as a "department chairman" since she is not a man, prefers simply "department chair" because, well, "chairwoman" is still silly.) And I know "chairwoman" is technically a word. It's still dumb and imaginary.
"Goddess" is an actual word, derived from a gendered language. So, if I am referring to a female deity, I will refer to her as a goddess. However, I will not say "Oh my goddess!" as we've all covered because I am not a 15 year old girl who shops at Hot Topic and thinks she is SUPER REBEL cause she calls herself a pagan. ("Paganne?")
In languages with gender-based grammar, obviously things should be gendered. But English doesn't really use gendered grammar, so it is unnecessary to invent it where we haven't imported it from whatever language we stole that particular piece of vocab from.
-DC
On a personal mission to take feminist certification away from anyone who spells it "womyn"
STOP BUYING INTO THE PATRIARCHY DCUP!
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE "HERSTORY" TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS?
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 05:39:29 PM
STOP BUYING INTO THE PATRIARCHY DCUP!
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE "HERSTORY" TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS?
*twitch, twitch*
OH GOD PET PEEVE :x
"History" IS NOT A SEXIST WORD. Even using "herstory" as a gimmick is stupid because it puts the wrong idea forward. YES there is a lack of adequate coverage of women's history in MOST history books/programs/etc, but infantilizing things never made them get taken more seriously or appear any more valid. In fact, it usually has the opposite effect! HOLY CRAP WHAT A FUCKING SHOCKER! :evilmad:
*twitch*
STUPID WORD. STUPID WOOOORRRRRDDDDDD!
-DC
Does not like to just hug it out
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on May 27, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 05:39:29 PM
STOP BUYING INTO THE PATRIARCHY DCUP!
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE "HERSTORY" TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS?
*twitch, twitch*
OH GOD PET PEEVE :x
"History" IS NOT A SEXIST WORD. Even using "herstory" as a gimmick is stupid because it puts the wrong idea forward. YES there is a lack of adequate coverage of women's history in MOST history books/programs/etc, but infantilizing things never made them get taken more seriously or appear any more valid. In fact, it usually has the opposite effect! HOLY CRAP WHAT A FUCKING SHOCKER! :evilmad:
*twitch*
STUPID WORD. STUPID WOOOORRRRRDDDDDD!
-DC
Does not like to just hug it out
I like this new DC.
This is what consumption of pork shoulder does to people. Pretty soon she'll be punching hobos for fun and profit like me.
Oh, I'm always a jerk in real life. It just doesn't show up as much on the internet. In real life, I am full of hate and rage.
One of my friends looked me the other day, was quiet and pensive for a moment, then finally said, "Where do you put it? All the hate, I mean. You somehow manage to contain at least three or four times your size in hate. Where does it all go?!"
Innate hate seems to be inversely proportional to body size. I've observed this in others.
Forgot to put my eggs in for the actual thread.
Having dated someone who prefers made up gender terms in actual conversation, I have to say that I'd be more into it if the words didn't sound stupid, and make me feel stupid to utter.
And nobody better exclaim Oh My Goddess, except in very well executed feats of sarcasm. It's just dumb. You can't shout GAAWWWDESSS!!! and get the same emphasis as GAAAAAWWWWD!!! It just sounds more striking in the masculine.
Quote from: Felix on May 27, 2008, 07:47:45 PM
And nobody better exclaim Oh My Goddess, except in very well executed feats of sarcasm. It's just dumb. You can't shout GAAWWWDESSS!!! and get the same emphasis as GAAAAAWWWWD!!! It just sounds more striking in the masculine.
I think what it is that makes it so much more striking is the ending on the hard sound. Ending on an SSSS sounds kinda silly and wimpy. Whereas "GAWWWWDDDDDD!" ends with a striking sound, much like "shit," "fuck," etc. The best exclamations sound as aggressive as they are.
As someone who worships Issac Brock as a false idol, I also like
"OH MY GOD AND OH MY CAT"
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on May 27, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 05:39:29 PM
STOP BUYING INTO THE PATRIARCHY DCUP!
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE "HERSTORY" TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS?
*twitch, twitch*
OH GOD PET PEEVE :x
"History" IS NOT A SEXIST WORD. Even using "herstory" as a gimmick is stupid because it puts the wrong idea forward. YES there is a lack of adequate coverage of women's history in MOST history books/programs/etc, but infantilizing things never made them get taken more seriously or appear any more valid. In fact, it usually has the opposite effect! HOLY CRAP WHAT A FUCKING SHOCKER! :evilmad:
*twitch*
STUPID WORD. STUPID WOOOORRRRRDDDDDD!
-DC
Does not like to just hug it out
I just think more Feminists should be taught Ancient Greek.
I really really want to learn Ancient Greek, actually.
But since I haven't yet, I'm sure I'm missing the punchline of some joke you just made. :cry:
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on May 27, 2008, 09:01:59 PM
I really really want to learn Ancient Greek, actually.
But since I haven't yet, I'm sure I'm missing the punchline of some joke you just made. :cry:
Nah, not really. Just that history in Ancient Greek means "a learning by inquiry" and the 'his' in the name has nothing to do with anything whatsoever, least of all gender. Apparently there is some urban myth or something that history = truncated version of hisstory, or 'his story'.
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on May 27, 2008, 09:01:59 PM
I really really want to learn Ancient Greek, actually.
But since I haven't yet, I'm sure I'm missing the punchline of some joke you just made. :cry:
Nah, not really. Just that history in Ancient Greek means "a learning by inquiry" and the 'his' in the name has nothing to do with anything whatsoever, least of all gender. Apparently there is some urban myth or something that history = truncated version of hisstory, or 'his story'.
Although I didn't know it came from Ancient Greek, I certainly knew that the word had nothing to do with "his story" because THAT IS A DUMB THING TO THINK. I mean WHAT?! How moronic can you get?
I mean, honestly. There's plenty of things in everyday life to get pissed off about. No need to go digging into stupid imaginary crap just to get worked up about something. Unless, of course, you are looking for something ultimately stupid and inconsequential so that you don't need to hurt your brain by thinking about ACTUAL issues that actually MATTER in even the smallest, tiniest fashion. NO. That would be too much like work.
Paranoid faux-persecution is all the rage.
For more see:
Christianity
Republicans
Muslims
Anarchists
Emo kids
Discordians
Muslims
Pagans
Goths
Yes I know I put Muslims in twice, STFU.
IAWTGGR, this DC is RTCM.
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 09:31:58 PM
Yes I know I put Muslims in twice, STFU.
I thought it was included for Mel Brooks' 'Blazing Saddles' lulz.
"Rape, Murder, Cattle Rustlin', Rape..."
"You said rape twice."
"I like rape!"
Mangrove - do you happen to have a dime on you?
Quote from: NWC on May 28, 2008, 01:10:28 AM
Mangrove - do you happen to have a dime on you?
8)
I don't really use the phrase "Oh my God," but I will say "God damn it," "Goddess damn it," "Gods damn it," or "God, sigular or plural, male or female, existant or nonexistant, damn it" depending on how I feel.
Quote from: The Space Pope on May 28, 2008, 05:36:36 AM
I don't really use the phrase "Oh my God," but I will say "God damn it," "Goddess damn it," "Gods damn it," or "God, sigular or plural, male or female, existant or nonexistant, damn it" depending on how I feel.
good point. I do say "goddamnit" or "goddamn" way more often. On special occasions I'll sing
"Little man quit pokin' me
Little man quit pokin'
Goddamn
Goddamn little man"
traditional
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on May 27, 2008, 09:01:59 PM
I really really want to learn Ancient Greek, actually.
But since I haven't yet, I'm sure I'm missing the punchline of some joke you just made. :cry:
Nah, not really. Just that history in Ancient Greek means "a learning by inquiry" and the 'his' in the name has nothing to do with anything whatsoever, least of all gender. Apparently there is some urban myth or something that history = truncated version of hisstory, or 'his story'.
I thought it was just a way to express that historians tend to overlook women's history? Surely nobody would believe that- Oh, never mind.
Quote from: Dido on May 28, 2008, 12:17:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on May 27, 2008, 09:01:59 PM
I really really want to learn Ancient Greek, actually.
But since I haven't yet, I'm sure I'm missing the punchline of some joke you just made. :cry:
Nah, not really. Just that history in Ancient Greek means "a learning by inquiry" and the 'his' in the name has nothing to do with anything whatsoever, least of all gender. Apparently there is some urban myth or something that history = truncated version of hisstory, or 'his story'.
I thought it was just a way to express that historians tend to overlook women's history? Surely nobody would believe that- Oh, never mind.
Yeah, exactly. It probably was, originally, but as time goes on... :x
Indeed.
(http://soleacido.lima-city.de/myspace/heulen.jpg)
Quote from: Cain on May 27, 2008, 09:31:58 PM
Yes I know I put Muslims in twice, STFU.
I thought you did as a larf.
Saying "God" breaks a commandment. That's why I do it.
You rebel.
I also covet my neighbor's ass.
Don't use 'god' much prefer 'fuck' as an exclamation
Just for the record I'd never say "oh my fuckess" unless it had a really good chance of starting a fight
Quote from: LMNO on May 29, 2008, 02:34:11 PM
Saying "God" breaks a commandment. That's why I do it.
You know as well as I do that the lords name is not 'god' - that's just some meaningless buzzword they came up with to pretend it wasn't hebrew :argh!:
Quote from: SillyCybin on May 30, 2008, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: LMNO on May 29, 2008, 02:34:11 PM
Saying "God" breaks a commandment. That's why I do it.
You know as well as I do that the lords name is not 'god' - that's just some meaningless buzzword they came up with to pretend it wasn't hebrew :argh!:
Put a sock in it, pariah.
i prefer to curse with bodyparts (cunt/arse/dick), body waste (shit/piss), sexual acts (fucking/arsefucking) and special dutch favourite, diseases (cholera/plague/typhus/SARS/H5N1--i try to avoid the ever-popular cancer, because it hurts some ppl i know that have lost family members)
i try not to curse with religion. mostly because about 9 years ago, a good friend of mine who's christian asked me if i could stop cursing when she was around, and i thought, what the heck, let's give it a shot, why would i wanna curse with things i don't believe in anyway (i was a littlebit more strict atheist back then).
the weird thing is, i started on a christian school from ages 4 to 12, where it never even occurred to me to curse with religion. then i went to a regular high school where lots of the kids cursed and i picked up on this rather quickly. that's 6 years of learning to curse. then i met this friend, with her request. 9 years later i still say "godverdomme!" when i drop something or hurt myself. and i've really tried.
it really bugs me that it seems to be much harder to get rid of a habit than to learn it. i hardly ever see this friend anymore (she moved to another part of the country) but now it's become a matter of personal control. i should be able to do this, right?
When I curse I usually say "shitfuckdamn" or "sweet baby jesus in heaven" or "holy mother of god", because they amuse me.
On the other hand, I've never been able to break myself of the habit of calling out "Oh God!" at, erm, special times, even though for a while I thought it would be funny to train myself to call out "Hail Eris!" in reality it's not that easy a transition to make.
My common curse of annoyance is simply "MOTHERFUCKER!"... although I have taken to cursing people at work. Telling someone "I curse you." really seems to freak them out.
Quote from: Nigel on May 30, 2008, 04:53:10 PMWhen I curse I usually say "shitfuckdamn" or "sweet baby jesus in heaven" or "holy mother of god", because they amuse me.
On the other hand, I've never been able to break myself of the habit of calling out "Oh God!" at, erm, special times, even though for a while I thought it would be funny to train myself to call out "Hail Eris!" in reality it's not that easy a transition to make.
thank GOD(dess) i never did that, no fucking religion in my fucking!
i mean, no
christian religion in my fucking
every time i have wanted to exclaim "god", i simply replaced it with the name of the girl. much more personal, less awkward.
and for me really not that hard to do, because right there, right then, it means the same thing anyway.
Quote from: Hoopla on May 30, 2008, 05:09:35 PM
My common curse of annoyance is simply "MOTHERFUCKER!"... although I have taken to cursing people at work. Telling someone "I curse you." really seems to freak them out.
I should give that a try. Sounds fun!
Quote from: triple zero on May 30, 2008, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 30, 2008, 04:53:10 PMWhen I curse I usually say "shitfuckdamn" or "sweet baby jesus in heaven" or "holy mother of god", because they amuse me.
On the other hand, I've never been able to break myself of the habit of calling out "Oh God!" at, erm, special times, even though for a while I thought it would be funny to train myself to call out "Hail Eris!" in reality it's not that easy a transition to make.
thank GOD(dess) i never did that, no fucking religion in my fucking!
i mean, no christian religion in my fucking
every time i have wanted to exclaim "god", i simply replaced it with the name of the girl. much more personal, less awkward.
and for me really not that hard to do, because right there, right then, it means the same thing anyway.
I've never wanted to do the name thing because of the fear of getting into a habit and then calling out the wrong name. Also because my first's name was Steve, and who wants to cry out "Steve! Oh Steve!"
My apologies to any and all Steves on the board.
I never wanted to do that either, because it kind of kills the mood to shout, "Oh, Mom!"
Quote from: LMNO on May 30, 2008, 06:14:47 PM
I never wanted to do that either, because it kind of kills the mood to shout, "Oh, Mom!"
:x
Quote from: Nigel on May 30, 2008, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: triple zero on May 30, 2008, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Nigel on May 30, 2008, 04:53:10 PMWhen I curse I usually say "shitfuckdamn" or "sweet baby jesus in heaven" or "holy mother of god", because they amuse me.
On the other hand, I've never been able to break myself of the habit of calling out "Oh God!" at, erm, special times, even though for a while I thought it would be funny to train myself to call out "Hail Eris!" in reality it's not that easy a transition to make.
thank GOD(dess) i never did that, no fucking religion in my fucking!
i mean, no christian religion in my fucking
every time i have wanted to exclaim "god", i simply replaced it with the name of the girl. much more personal, less awkward.
and for me really not that hard to do, because right there, right then, it means the same thing anyway.
I've never wanted to do the name thing because of the fear of getting into a habit and then calling out the wrong name. Also because my first's name was Steve, and who wants to cry out "Steve! Oh Steve!"
My apologies to any and all Steves on the board.
I tend to exclaim names.
Therefore, there exists out there a list of names of guys I can never sleep with, because I will exclaim their name, and then I will immediately start laughing really hard. :oops:
Also, I think the "Hail Eris!" idea is great--I kinda wanna try that, since I don't really give much of a crap about the guy I'm shagging right now. If he's weirded out, OH WELL. It'll be a good test environment for me. :wink:
Also also, I love Hoopla's "I curse you" thing. That's brilliant.
I often use the French "putain!" as a general exclamation when something happens. Although in some situations, an endless stream of "Fuck" just really helps. Example: when a family walked DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF MY CAR WHEN I HAD A GREEN LIGHT AND WAS ALREADY GOING THIRTY the other day. I slammed on the brakes and stood up (convertible=ZOMG REAL LIFE TROLLING) and screamed, "Get the fuck out of the road you fucking idiots! I have a green light and that means fucking RIGHT OF WAY! Get your entitlement the FUCK out of my way!" And then sat down again and put in the clutch and just revved the engine near the red line until they moved.
:D
I like being a jerk!
I exclaim State Capitals.
"Montpelier!"
Quote from: Rev. Whats His Name? on May 30, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
I exclaim State Capitals.
"Montpelier!"
"Olympia" is kind of sexy. "Sacramento" is just kind of funny. However, "Salem"...
No, that's what she says after.
Heh, I'm just kidding, my wife doesn't smoke.
Places that could be a curse word?
Reno!
Quote from: Felix on May 31, 2008, 01:29:56 AM
Places that could be a curse word?
Almere-Buiten!
Emmeloord!
GODVERDRONTEN :lol:
"Paducah" (Kentucky) Sounds like a Batman punch.
I prefer my profanity to be as nonsensical as possible.
"Son of a fucking DAMMIT!"
"GODDAMNMOTHERKINGSHITFUCK!!!!"
"Fucking cuntfuckers."
I say "God damn it" all the time, and I have never been religious. It's a cultural thing. I also like to say "Jesus Christ" and "What the christ". There's absolutely no reason for me to use the english language to its fullest extent. If I ever heard somebody say "Oh my goddess!" I would have to physically restrain myself from insta-slapping them, because that's just dumb.
I also like to mutter "son of a motherfucker" when I drop stuff.
I'm stealing What the Christ.
Agreed that profanity has to have some sort of cultural weight to it, or it just feels like you're LARPing as some fantasy elf or something.
If you were blessed with being raised in The Greatest Nation on Earth, and The Freest Nation on Earth called the United States of America (excuse me while I gag), skip this intro.
The American Pledge of Allegiance is "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." (end of intro)
When my cohorts Princess Unicornia and Fairy Princess Yoshikyoko recite the American Pledge of Allegiance (which had the phrase "under God" added to it in 1954 to show the world that America wasn't like the Godless Communists), they say "under God and Goddess."
Sometimes I simply says, "On top of Goddess."
my dad lived in the US for a year when he was little, and he had to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning in school (or something like that--do you still have to do that?), but he always mumbled "and the Netherlands" under his breath.
not really because he was such a rebel or anything, but it simply makes more sense that way, to a kid, i suppose.
I just never bothered to say the "under God" part - had anyone ever bothered to call me on it, I would have just said I prefered the original, pre-McCarthy-era version. That phrase was only added in the early 50's since the US wasn't godless commies and felt the need to emphasize that in the pledge for some reason.
Yes, the whole debate around this phrase originated in McCarthy-era red-baiting. What a perfect starting point to highlight the sheer idiocy of mixing the state and religion.
Quote from: triple zero on June 07, 2008, 01:49:11 PM
my dad lived in the US for a year when he was little, and he had to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning in school (or something like that--do you still have to do that?), but he always mumbled "and the Netherlands" under his breath.
not really because he was such a rebel or anything, but it simply makes more sense that way, to a kid, i suppose.
Good for your Dad.
Legally, you don't still have to recite the pledge in school in America, but some schools still insist on it. As far I as I know, currently it's often said in elementary schools, sometimes in junior high schools, and very seldom in high schools.
The U. S. Supreme Court originally decided right before the beginning of World War II that schools could force students to recite it. Members of I think the Jehovah's Witnesses had believed that saying a pledge to an inanimate object was idolatry (frankly, I tend to agree), but they lost. But ironically during World War II, when American Patriotism was at its height ("Kill for America!"), the Supreme Court reversed its decision, I think on First Amendment grounds (for non-Americans, that amendment to the U. S. Constitution covers Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press, stuff like that).
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 07, 2008, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: triple zero on June 07, 2008, 01:49:11 PM
my dad lived in the US for a year when he was little, and he had to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning in school (or something like that--do you still have to do that?), but he always mumbled "and the Netherlands" under his breath.
not really because he was such a rebel or anything, but it simply makes more sense that way, to a kid, i suppose.
Good for your Dad.
Legally, you don't still have to recite the pledge in school in America, but some schools still insist on it. As far I as I know, currently it's often said in elementary schools, sometimes in junior high schools, and very seldom in high schools.
The U. S. Supreme Court originally decided right before the beginning of World War II that schools could force students to recite it. Members of I think the Jehovah's Witnesses had believed that saying a pledge to an inanimate object was idolatry (frankly, I tend to agree), but they lost. But ironically during World War II, when American Patriotism was at its height ("Kill for America!"), the Supreme Court reversed its decision, I think on First Amendment grounds (for non-Americans, that amendment to the U. S. Constitution covers Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press, stuff like that).
I've refused to say the pledge from the 6th grade up through my senior year oh highschool, and most of the time I was able to get away with just some dirty looks, but I got kicked out of a few classes, was not allowed to take a test which would have ruined my grade if the administration hadn't intervened, and I've had multiple angry phone calls to my parents.
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Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 07, 2008, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: triple zero on June 07, 2008, 01:49:11 PM
my dad lived in the US for a year when he was little, and he had to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning in school (or something like that--do you still have to do that?), but he always mumbled "and the Netherlands" under his breath.
not really because he was such a rebel or anything, but it simply makes more sense that way, to a kid, i suppose.
Good for your Dad.
Legally, you don't still have to recite the pledge in school in America, but some schools still insist on it. As far I as I know, currently it's often said in elementary schools, sometimes in junior high schools, and very seldom in high schools.
The U. S. Supreme Court originally decided right before the beginning of World War II that schools could force students to recite it. Members of I think the Jehovah's Witnesses had believed that saying a pledge to an inanimate object was idolatry (frankly, I tend to agree), but they lost. But ironically during World War II, when American Patriotism was at its height ("Kill for America!"), the Supreme Court reversed its decision, I think on First Amendment grounds (for non-Americans, that amendment to the U. S. Constitution covers Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press, stuff like that).
I've refused to say the pledge from the 6th grade up through my senior year oh highschool, and most of the time I was able to get away with just some dirty looks, but I got kicked out of a few classes, was not allowed to take a test which would have ruined my grade if the administration hadn't intervened, and I've had multiple angry phone calls to my parents.
That shows you what happens when you Satanic Atheist Communist Nazi Axis of Evil Slebs try forcing your Anti-American Freedom of Speech and Religion Crap down the throats of us good Patriotic Americans!
Oh wait, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion are American. Nevermind.
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 07, 2008, 05:58:30 PM
Quote from: triple zero on June 07, 2008, 01:49:11 PM
my dad lived in the US for a year when he was little, and he had to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning in school (or something like that--do you still have to do that?), but he always mumbled "and the Netherlands" under his breath.
not really because he was such a rebel or anything, but it simply makes more sense that way, to a kid, i suppose.
Good for your Dad.
Legally, you don't still have to recite the pledge in school in America, but some schools still insist on it. As far I as I know, currently it's often said in elementary schools, sometimes in junior high schools, and very seldom in high schools.
The U. S. Supreme Court originally decided right before the beginning of World War II that schools could force students to recite it. Members of I think the Jehovah's Witnesses had believed that saying a pledge to an inanimate object was idolatry (frankly, I tend to agree), but they lost. But ironically during World War II, when American Patriotism was at its height ("Kill for America!"), the Supreme Court reversed its decision, I think on First Amendment grounds (for non-Americans, that amendment to the U. S. Constitution covers Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press, stuff like that).
Yep, after teachers had knocked kids across desks and after a couple kids nearly died from getting beat up by their schoolmates... Of course, during that time, the land of the free also tarred and feathered JW's, priests whipped up mob violence against them, all sorts of stuff to make us UMERIKANS proud.
And these are the joys that Gordon Brown wants to bring to the UK!
But in our case, everyone will be made to pledge alleigance to the Head of the Anglican Church. So it will be even more fun!
None of this has ANYTHING to do with Bea Arthur's vagina.
Explain to her GOD is actually a acronym for "Great Orange Dick", a sacred item belonging to the God of Antiques; David Dickinson.
Quote from: Hoopla on June 09, 2008, 11:37:09 PM
None of this has ANYTHING to do with Bea Arthur's vagina.
Really? I thought EVERYTHING had to do with Bea Arthur's vagina.
I should also like to point out that, today at precisely 5:37 a.m. in Bea Arthur's home town of New York, New York, the time was precisely 5:37 a.m.
What a useless piece of information.
You did not specify the time zone.
In Soviet PD.com, time zone specifies YUO.
I have no problem with using goddess or waitress or actress if it applies correctly. Changing a commonly-used curseword to demonstrate you are sensitive to the "Feminine Mystique" *gag* is a dick move. You signal quite a few things when you do this:
1) You are superior because you realize there's been a lack of female power in the universe--IT MUST BE TAKEN BACK!
2) You are more sensitive than those ignorant fucks using "Goddammit!"--and you probably wear pink and eat quiche regularly.
3) You are more paygun than anyone because you honor the Great Her(tm). Fuck that puny god who gets reborn every year--the real power is in the Earf Muver.
4) You are just simply more intelligent and well-read because you ACKNOWLEDGE all of this by cursing.
5) Fuck those Christians and their so-called monotheism.
...etc.
I don't have any problems with someone using political watchwords, really, it's just annoying. All the above is assumption and presumption, of course, but it gets old when you see it on the interbutts. To me, it's akin to spelling magic like "magick."
As for the cursing world, I grew up with a mom who wouldn't say "fart" and refused to let us use "butt." (Now some of you can get a clue as to why I curse so often on the internet.) So, and therefore, it took a LOOOOOONG time to get over the personal stigma against not only using "Oh My God" but also "godammit, godfuckingdammit" and "Jesus Christ"--which I've taken to saying even more than anything that starts with g-o-d.
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 10, 2008, 02:26:36 AM
I should also like to point out that, today at precisely 5:37 a.m. in Bea Arthur's home town of New York, New York, the time was precisely 5:37 a.m.
LIAR
I've been monitoring this in myself since the discussion started. I have found that I quite often, actually, curse with terms referencing Eris or Goddess... So I had to think about how this slipped into my vocabulary without my notice.
My current tentative theory goes like this:
I never cursed as a child. My parents forbade it, as did the JW's. I don't recall ever saying Goddamnit, or fuck... I remember once when I got spanked for saying piss.
There was about a 14 month span of time between cutting myself off completely from JW's and finding Eris. Most of this time I spent with pagans or Scadians... then Eris showed up and all the etc involved there.
So, at least at this point, it doesn't appear to me that I changed cursing to involve goddess or Eris, but rather that I may have adapted it, because it was heavily influencing my BiP when I began cursing.
Curiouser and Curiouser.
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 10, 2008, 07:10:45 PM
I never cursed as a child. My parents forbade it, as did the JW's. I don't recall ever saying Goddamnit, or fuck... I remember once when I got spanked for saying piss.
Until fairly recently, "piss" was one of the words specifically considered obscene for public broadcast by the American FCC (Federal Communications Commission). Comedian George Carlin got some mileage off this with es routine about the Seven Dirty Words. (Note genderless term "es"--makes this post fit the original thread, sort of).
Some of you may know that
Principia Discordia refers to a verse in the King James Version of the Bible (the version most often quoted by American traditional Christian fundamentalists), that talks about he that pisseth against the wall. The following even stronger verse also appears in the KJV:
2 Kings 18:27 "...Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" There's an almost identical version of this in Isaiah 36:12.
I wonder. Had someone quoted this verse on TV when the obscenity law still stood, and had someone else pointed out that the law had been violated, what would have happened? What would be the reaction of the fundamentalist Christians who supported the law when it would mean declaring their own Bible obscene?
Reverend "Can you tell I was raised by a Bible-thumping Grandfather?" Uncle BadTouch
Quote from: Reverend Uncle BadTouch on June 11, 2008, 12:11:39 AMWhat would be the reaction of the fundamentalist Christians who supported the law when it would mean declaring their own Bible obscene?
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eris ain't no dude, ain't part of no dude, and isn't interested in being a dude god... trust me on this
Quote from: annarkee on June 11, 2008, 02:54:11 AM
eris ain't no dude, ain't part of no dude, and isn't interested in being a dude god... trust me on this
Did she inform you of this via your pineal gland?
Also, welcome. There's an introduction thread near the top of Apple Talk.
Quote from: annarkee on June 11, 2008, 02:54:11 AM
eris ain't no dude, ain't part of no dude, and isn't interested in being a dude god... trust me on this
Not true. Eris is part of the collective which is EIEIO. Her male half is Big Swifty.
Quote from: annarkee on June 11, 2008, 02:54:11 AM
eris ain't no dude, ain't part of no dude, and isn't interested in being a dude god... trust me on this
eris fucking larfs at your presumptions, too
Quote from: HOOPLA! on June 11, 2008, 01:58:33 AM
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GAWD I love this image. It's what I picture every single day on the subway.
Now Rhombus will tell me I'm a sociopath. Jesus, like I can't fondly imagine the violent death of others and laughing without being a sociopath...
Perfectly normal to ME.
But then, much of the bizzaro parts of life are.
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GAWD I love this image. It's what I picture every single day on the subway.
Now Rhombus will tell me I'm a sociopath. Jesus, like I can't fondly imagine the violent death of others and laughing without being a sociopath...
Right with ya, bro.
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HILARIOUS!
OH MAH GAWD! AH'VE NEVAR SEEN SUMPIN AS BAD AS DIS! UHYUK
Quote from: SillyCybin on May 30, 2008, 11:53:23 AM
You know as well as I do that the lords name is not 'god' - that's just some meaningless buzzword they came up with to pretend it wasn't hebrew :argh!:
yeah, but if you were to say "YHWH dammit!" or "oh my YHWH!" most christians would not know what you were talking about, because no matter how zealous they pretend to be, they don't even know the name of their god! haha
Yehova?
EHEIEH!!