But don't worry. Dr Paes is here.
Say "ahhhh."
Alright, alright, you can stop now.
There's definitely nothing wrong with your ability to make noise.
Let's test your reflexes.
*Thwack*
Well, fuck. That's the most intense knee-jerk reaction I've seen in a long time.
Your temperature is pretty normal.
You blood pressure is high, but no higher than it has been the in past.
My diagnosis? Hypochondriasis... or some form of extreme medical students disease.
It's really not surprising, considering all the sickness you're exposed to, that you started to see a little of it in yourself...
You've built up a sort of overactive immunity to pinealism, that you see it in the most innocent nonsense.
You've been so critical of other communities' modus operandi that any deviation from what you perceive to be the correct way to function is immediately attacked.
I'm afraid you've been so exposed to the concept of a REALLY REAL DISCORDIAN, that despite still denying the existence of such a thing, you've begun to believe it.
And after identifying these situations as issues, you've attacked them, of course.
THIS IS A NO NONSENSE ZONE. LIFE IS HARD, WEAR A HELMET AND STFU. MOAR CONTENT ITT.
But on further examination of the arguments you've made, you see the sickness in them as well. It's spreading.
You begin to battle the turncoats, with satirical representations of them. Take their power from them by turning them into jokes. A handful of "anti-fluff" threads pop up, the sickness is immediately identified and targetted wherever it appears.
Regions of the board which are not yet sick have been preemptively attacked... and still, the sickness spreads!
Metatopics spread, attacking the functioning of this immune system, recognising it as the sickness also.
But, oh! The sickness exists in these also!
So much effort is put into destroying this foreign invader that the content being protected goes down as a casualty of war.
Nobody has any time to produce a solution, because they're too busy fighting the problem.
And there are no signs of improvement, just more and more stress about how ineffective this battle has been, leading to less thought going into how to battle the problems we are seeing.
Because worrying about the sickness is the cancer that is killing PD.com.
My professional opinion?
Stop taking medicine for illnesses you don't have.
Trust me. I'm a doctor.
Will PD be able to play Soccer again Doctor?
FUCK YOU DOC! I NEED THIS OXYCODONE FOR MY BACK!
Once again, everyone wants to open their mouth without having used their eyes properly beforehand.
could someone please point me to where anyone said that an overabundance of fluff/pinealism/whatever was the problem with PD?
FFS get that stick out of your ass before you explode.
I mean, just because people aren't talking exactly about what you want to talk about doesn't mean they're fucking stupid, or can't read.
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on March 25, 2010, 07:22:19 AM
Once again, everyone wants to open their mouth without having used their eyes properly beforehand.
could someone please point me to where anyone said that an overabundance of fluff/pinealism/whatever was the problem with PD?
It appears to Dr. Paes that you think this thread is specifically referring to the topics you created and the ensuing drama over what is apparently a misinterpretation of your point.
References to the suggestion that fluff vs content is the issue are all over the board. I use them as an example of whatever it is I was trying to describe with the OP*, not as the main focus. I'm not saying that
you said that fluff/content was the issue. You've made it clear enough that this wasn't your point. I'm not actually just referring to the problems identified or the issues recently raised in
your topics, either. I'm not saying "ECH was right about what the problem is. Here is another way of looking at his point." nor am I saying "ECH is wrong, here is why."
Though reference is made to events which may have been caused by your "Roger, turns out you were right" thread, I am not actually replying to you personally or starting a thread to discuss what you think the problem is.
Maybe you understand that and I've missed your point, but... just sayin'.
*Probably something about how discussion of issues we're having explodes all over the board and makes a huge mess, rarely fixing the issue which goes away by itself after a while.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to make it about me or my thread, I just honestly can't remember having seen anywhere recently where anyone was saying that the problem with PD was the fluff/content ratio. Though I truly like your writing, Paes, it just seems to me as though this one is muddling the issue rather than clarifying it.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on March 25, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
FFS get that stick out of your ass before you explode.
:lulz:
Pot calling kettle, much?
ECH,
think you
might not be stupid, but your reading comprehension could use some work
Everyone needs an enema, EOT.
...and ANOTHER enema!
Be the board you want to see.
This is the closest thing to a market-driven board you'll ever see. If the board isn't delivering, whose fault is that? It's not like we're running around deleting or locking threads we don't like, or banning people for how they post.
You want content, then POST content and maybe READ the content other people DO post. It's there, even if you have to wade through 30 threads of live journal stuff to get to it. Nobody is forcing you to read things you don't enjoy, and it's not like you're going to find much better out there.
Also,
"Ask interesting questions, get interesting answers."
Creating something interesting is awesome. Inviting other people to also create something interesting is exciting.
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on March 25, 2010, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on March 25, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
FFS get that stick out of your ass before you explode.
:lulz:
Pot calling kettle, much?
ECH,
think you might not be stupid, but your reading comprehension could use some work
So let me see if I've got this right. Paes makes a post about how talking about what is "wrong" with PD only serves to worsen the drama. You explode all over the place about how "fluff vs content" isn't the real problem. And
I'm the one with reading comprehension problems?
Wasn't there some mention about overbearing egos getting in the way of things just recently...?
I love this thread. OP, and then what Doc and LMNO just said are all great. Even if I barely post anymore, I still read almost everything on here everyday, and Dr. Paes's diagnosis put into words some of my thoughts.
That's also part of the reason why I don't post as much anymore(I also fell out of the habit when I didn't have internet), cos I don't want to be attacked over (mis)interpretations of what I say. I have nothing but the utmost respect for you guys that I read every day, but I feel like more and more lately there's a lack of (please excuse the technical term) pronesis in peoples' reactions, it's more of an immediate attack.
You guys are the some of the most interesting and in some cases smart people I "know", but when smart people know they're smart, they tend to not question themselves.
And now, baby platypi!:
(http://www.animals-zone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Baby-Animals-13.jpg)
cos that's what's really important in life.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on March 25, 2010, 06:18:05 PM
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on March 25, 2010, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on March 25, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
FFS get that stick out of your ass before you explode.
:lulz:
Pot calling kettle, much?
ECH,
think you might not be stupid, but your reading comprehension could use some work
So let me see if I've got this right. Paes makes a post about how talking about what is "wrong" with PD only serves to worsen the drama. You explode all over the place about how "fluff vs content" isn't the real problem. And I'm the one with reading comprehension problems?
Wasn't there some mention about overbearing egos getting in the way of things just recently...?
Paes characterized the genesis of the drama as posters being upset that there was too much fluff. I was taking issue with that characterization.
So, to answer your question, yes, you are the one with reading comprehension problems.
I can see how you could have interpreted his post that way. On the other hand, running in spewing vitriol about it only proves Paes' point. If you're too wrapped up in your own ego to see my point and too self-righteous to admit that maybe we're both right, well, I guess you are part of the problem.
PS is there something bothering you in your personal life? I've never in five years seen you this continuously butthurt over anything and I wonder if maybe you're taking your issues out on the rest of us.
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on March 25, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
Paes characterized the genesis of the drama as posters being upset that there was too much fluff. I was taking issue with that characterization.
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from there.
The fluff/content discussion wasn't supposed to be the topic of this, but even a slight reference to it would have probably overpowered the rest of the message. I felt it was relevant, because the fluff/content discussion has been referred to in a large number of threads.
Following your "Roger, you were right all along" post, people got the impression that your issue was with fluff vs content. Or at least I got the impression that they got this impression, because reference to fluff vs content sprung up all over the board. Some people being upset that their content is ignored and their threads filled with fluff and some people feeling that their fluff was no longer welcome and that they were unable to contribute anything more substantial than they were.
To me, this was noticeable enough to refer to it, partially to see if in my responses it was acknowledged that others felt this way as well.
It's not really a large enough part of the point that I can be bothered digging up a whole lot of posts which gave me the impression, but here are a few posts where people were taking one side or the other in the non-existent fluff/content war.
Dok comparing members interest in fluff compared to content.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24468.msg845079#msg845079
Remington feeling game threads were classed as "fluff" and therefore unwelcome.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24404.msg844084#msg844084
And fuck it because I'm throwing 500 errors all over the place using search.
Maybe they're there or maybe I imagined them. I'll probably write something else later with the same topic and a different description, keeping the fluff/content argument out of it.
tl;dr of OP: The discussion of and reaction to any proposed "problem" with PD.com appears to be spagging up the boards and making everything worse. The discussion of and reaction to these discussions and reactions are even worse and this thread in reaction to the metatopics is just getting fucking silly.
Quote from: Dr. Paes on March 26, 2010, 12:32:19 AM
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on March 25, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
Paes characterized the genesis of the drama as posters being upset that there was too much fluff. I was taking issue with that characterization.
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from there.
The fluff/content discussion wasn't supposed to be the topic of this, but even a slight reference to it would have probably overpowered the rest of the message. I felt it was relevant, because the fluff/content discussion has been referred to in a large number of threads.
Following your "Roger, you were right all along" post, people got the impression that your issue was with fluff vs content. Or at least I got the impression that they got this impression, because reference to fluff vs content sprung up all over the board. Some people being upset that their content is ignored and their threads filled with fluff and some people feeling that their fluff was no longer welcome and that they were unable to contribute anything more substantial than they were.
To me, this was noticeable enough to refer to it, partially to see if in my responses it was acknowledged that others felt this way as well.
It's not really a large enough part of the point that I can be bothered digging up a whole lot of posts which gave me the impression, but here are a few posts where people were taking one side or the other in the non-existent fluff/content war.
Dok comparing members interest in fluff compared to content.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24468.msg845079#msg845079
Remington feeling game threads were classed as "fluff" and therefore unwelcome.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24404.msg844084#msg844084
And fuck it because I'm throwing 500 errors all over the place using search.
Maybe they're there or maybe I imagined them. I'll probably write something else later with the same topic and a different description, keeping the fluff/content argument out of it.
tl;dr of OP: The discussion of and reaction to any proposed "problem" with PD.com appears to be spagging up the boards and making everything worse. The discussion of and reaction to these discussions and reactions are even worse and this thread in reaction to the metatopics is just getting fucking silly.
fair enough. I probably should have shut my fool mouth and not spagged up your thread with my tangent anyway, given how much it irritates me when people do that to my threads. Apologies.
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on March 25, 2010, 08:10:50 PM
I can see how you could have interpreted his post that way. On the other hand, running in spewing vitriol about it only proves Paes' point. If you're too wrapped up in your own ego to see my point and too self-righteous to admit that maybe we're both right, well, I guess you are part of the problem.
PS is there something bothering you in your personal life? I've never in five years seen you this continuously butthurt over anything and I wonder if maybe you're taking your issues out on the rest of us.
we are certainly both right and I never excluded myself from being part of the problem. And no, my personal life is going pretty well, though I am actually just the slightest bit touched by your concern. I think living in this idiotic hippie/hipster/trustafarian "utopia" has robbed me of necessary conflict in my day-to-day life. Those energies are ever-present in me and need an outlet, so I'm willing to consider that I may be reacting too strongly to what I perceive as problems here.
This is why I swordfight in the park. Portland is like a vortex unless you find creative outlets for conflict.
Quote from: Telarus on March 26, 2010, 06:55:33 PM
This is why I swordfight in the park. Portland is like a vortex unless you find creative outlets for conflict.
Did someone say conflict (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1Jyh8NCDc&feature=related)?
Quote from: Emerald City Hustle on March 26, 2010, 06:40:14 PM
Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on March 25, 2010, 08:10:50 PM
I can see how you could have interpreted his post that way. On the other hand, running in spewing vitriol about it only proves Paes' point. If you're too wrapped up in your own ego to see my point and too self-righteous to admit that maybe we're both right, well, I guess you are part of the problem.
PS is there something bothering you in your personal life? I've never in five years seen you this continuously butthurt over anything and I wonder if maybe you're taking your issues out on the rest of us.
we are certainly both right and I never excluded myself from being part of the problem. And no, my personal life is going pretty well, though I am actually just the slightest bit touched by your concern. I think living in this idiotic hippie/hipster/trustafarian "utopia" has robbed me of necessary conflict in my day-to-day life. Those energies are ever-present in me and need an outlet, so I'm willing to consider that I may be reacting too strongly to what I perceive as problems here.
I'm cool if you're cool.
I'm cool. You'll have to work harder than that to get kicked off of my list of people from PD I'd like to have a beer with someday.
I've been forced to learn how to keep my temper in the last six months or so :lol: