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#4396
Or Kill Me / Re: So you want a Revolution...
October 24, 2008, 02:29:27 PM
TL;DR
Could you sum it up in a sentence?
:wink:
#4397
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 23, 2008, 11:46:34 PM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on October 23, 2008, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on October 23, 2008, 09:43:07 PM
Quote from: YattoDobbs on October 23, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
first can mean 3 different things based on context
while the later simply is  'not interested'
holy shit! that was almost a complete sentence!
with a cohesive thought wrapped in it!
did you stop trying?!

Shut up.

what are the three things, then?

All in good fun, sugar.
I think a certain amount of interpretive posting adds to any forum.
I was simply referring to another thread where YD said he tries hard at being the designated airhead....
#4398
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 23, 2008, 09:43:07 PM
Quote from: YattoDobbs on October 23, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
first can mean 3 different things based on context
while the later simply is  'not interested'
holy shit! that was almost a complete sentence!
with a cohesive thought wrapped in it!
did you stop trying?!
#4399
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 23, 2008, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 23, 2008, 08:55:29 PM
How many people think that the word "irreligious" describes their views?

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#4400
Techmology and Scientism / Re: I AM DOUGLAS QUAID!!
October 23, 2008, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: Felix on October 23, 2008, 05:01:19 PM
It's not especially new, but it's news to me.

Anyhow, who wants to bet the Pentagon will seize this technology as soon as it's finished and repurpose it for interrogation coverups?

That is, after all, how they got PEPs.

I thought they (as in THEM, incl. the CIA) were already able to do this (perhaps less elegantly) since the MKUltra program?...
also, whas PEPs?
#4401
Techmology and Scientism / Re: I AM DOUGLAS QUAID!!
October 23, 2008, 04:56:59 PM
Eternal sunshine!
:D

ETA.... i think i heard about this on Radio Labs on NPR (love that show!) about a year ago....
#4402
Quote from: Kai on October 23, 2008, 01:36:34 AM
Its considered in bad taste to name randomly, after pop culture, or after yourself. Remember the Draconis hogwartzia? This is why we can't have nice things.

What?!  considered by who? stick-in-the-mud taxonomists, that's who....  :argh!:
I'm reminded of the louse specie G.Larsoni named after the illustrator of the FarbSide comic.  that's a nice thing, right there.  :D
#4403
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 23, 2008, 12:06:48 AM
wut?  :|
#4404
whatcha gonna name it?
#4405
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 22, 2008, 09:48:10 PM
so does she know about your ordination?
#4406
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 22, 2008, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 22, 2008, 08:22:49 PM
I admit, the need to have some sort of universal meaning/higher consciousness/personal essence/whatever is completely mystifying to me.

Isn't life amazing enough and interesting enough as it is?

Of course it is amazing and interesting, but that's only because of our ability to be amazed and interested.  our consciousness is what lends this awe.  So the ephemeral nature of that is disturbing to many people.  completely unacceptable to others.  I, personally, no longer feel the need to cling to the notion of an afterlife for myself.  (i accept my boundaries, both spatially and temporally.  asking whether i exist after i die goes in the same category as whether i exist 10 feet to the right of my body)  I do, still feel the need to believe that there is some sort of  universal awareness (however different it might be from my own) that will maintain the 'amazing' and 'interesting' unbounded by time.
#4407
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 22, 2008, 07:52:49 PM
Quote from: Jenne on October 22, 2008, 07:39:42 PM
... but I do miss the comfort I had around FAMILY who still believe and practice it.

No kidding.  it becomes awkward.  (especially since having children of my own.)  I have a good relationship with my family and we don't frequently butt heads re: religion, but it's unsettling to know that every night when they go to sleep, they are praying that the holy spirit will influence me to return to the flock....
#4408
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 22, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: Eve on October 22, 2008, 03:42:16 PM
Is it weird that I sort of wish I did believe in something, even though it's silly/stupid/total bullshit?  :sad:

Not at all.  I have felt great loss from abandoning my protestant christian beliefs.  They say ignorance is bliss, but knowing that all is right and good and there is some benevolent entity in control that loves you personally is one hell of a comfort.  i miss that terribly.
oh well....  :|
#4409
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 22, 2008, 01:55:56 PM
Quote from: GA on October 22, 2008, 04:29:11 AM
Would you agree that there are "meanings" that people come up with that are, quite frankly, stupid?  If so, then the universe's super-set of meanings is actually worse than just the collection of "good" meanings.
i try to avoid the concepts like stupid and worse and good.  i'm sticking with the matter of scale and temporal permanence...
#4410
Principia Discussion / Re: What do you REALLY believe?
October 22, 2008, 03:59:09 AM
Quote from: GA on October 22, 2008, 03:12:39 AM
Anyway, what I was trying to get at was why is meaning generated by a universe-consciousness relevant?  Even assuming that the universe really is the greatest possible thing, why should any meaning generated by it also be greatest?  Why couldn't a "lesser" being come up with a "greater" meaning than the universe?

Hm.. that's a good point.  i guess i would point out that all meaning as conceived of by all lesser beings are part of god, and so the greater meaning would be, in a sense, a super set, containing our lesser meanings....