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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: AFK on October 30, 2012, 10:43:38 PM

Title: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: AFK on October 30, 2012, 10:43:38 PM
How the fuck are you guys not talking about this?


http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/30/14809629-disney-buying-lucasfilm-will-release-new-star-wars-movie-in-2015?lite
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[/size]I'm calling it now, Han Solo will be played by Johnny Depp.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 30, 2012, 10:48:05 PM
Because it's fucking Star Wars?

Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 30, 2012, 10:55:55 PM
The franchise should just be left alone at this point. They should have left it alone after the thx remastering. Any other attempts to improve or expand have resulted in one of the rare cases of justifiable nerdrage.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 30, 2012, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 30, 2012, 10:55:55 PM
The franchise should just be left alone at this point. They should have left it alone after the thx remastering. Any other attempts to improve or expand have resulted in one of the rare cases of justifiable nerdrage.

Also:  HOLLYWOOD ASSHOLES:  COME UP WITH A NEW IDEA, YOU WASHED-UP HACKS!
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 30, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
The idea reserves went dry a long time ago. Sometime theyll find a new mine or some idea sands and theyll be able to extract a little bit of idea refine it sell it burn it. But yeah usually the emissions have to be recaptured and used to synthesize more idea.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: AFK on October 30, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I see a slight potential in these movies actually being somewhat decent, especially if Lucas has LESS influence.  At the same time, seeing how they've beat the snot out of that Pirates franchise, that potential is probably microscopically thin.


But also, for those scoring at home, Disney has now acquired The Muppets AND Star Wars.  What's next?
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Don Coyote on October 30, 2012, 11:23:03 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 30, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I see a slight potential in these movies actually being somewhat decent, especially if Lucas has LESS influence.  At the same time, seeing how they've beat the snot out of that Pirates franchise, that potential is probably microscopically thin.


But also, for those scoring at home, Disney has now acquired The Muppets AND Star Wars.  What's next?

Seseame Street and My Little Pony.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 30, 2012, 11:28:14 PM
Lightsaber battle between fuckerberg and walt disneys frozen head
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Juana on October 30, 2012, 11:28:48 PM
:lulz: I'm going to bet some pro-fanfiction (the novels, that is) is going to be the basis.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Luna on October 30, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 30, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I see a slight potential in these movies actually being somewhat decent, especially if Lucas has LESS influence.  At the same time, seeing how they've beat the snot out of that Pirates franchise, that potential is probably microscopically thin.


But also, for those scoring at home, Disney has now acquired The Muppets AND Star Wars.  What's next?

You forgot Marvel Comics.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Suu on October 31, 2012, 12:07:36 AM
I'm getting my tattoos covered up.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: AFK on October 31, 2012, 12:09:17 AM
Quote from: Luna on October 30, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 30, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I see a slight potential in these movies actually being somewhat decent, especially if Lucas has LESS influence.  At the same time, seeing how they've beat the snot out of that Pirates franchise, that potential is probably microscopically thin.


But also, for those scoring at home, Disney has now acquired The Muppets AND Star Wars.  What's next?

You forgot Marvel Comics.


Jeezus, next it will be G. I. Joe!
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Luna on October 31, 2012, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 31, 2012, 12:09:17 AM
Quote from: Luna on October 30, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 30, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I see a slight potential in these movies actually being somewhat decent, especially if Lucas has LESS influence.  At the same time, seeing how they've beat the snot out of that Pirates franchise, that potential is probably microscopically thin.


But also, for those scoring at home, Disney has now acquired The Muppets AND Star Wars.  What's next?

You forgot Marvel Comics.


Jeezus, next it will be G. I. Joe!

Nah, G.I. Joe is Hasbro...  Too big for Disney to swallow, for now, anyway.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Suu on October 31, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
But Hasbro holds all the licenses for Star Wars toys. If Disney ever decides to go for Hasbro, Rhode Island would become the State of Disney and Buena Vista Plantations. FUCK that.

Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Luna on October 31, 2012, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: Suu on October 31, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
But Hasbro holds all the licenses for Star Wars toys. If Disney ever decides to go for Hasbro, Rhode Island would become the State of Disney and Buena Vista Plantations. FUCK that.

They could build DisneyVerse, right here in Rhode Island!  A massive amusement park, built entirely inside a giant Star Destroyer!  An EPCOT center that looks like a Death Star!

It'd be awesome!
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Cain on October 31, 2012, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: Luna on October 30, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 30, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I see a slight potential in these movies actually being somewhat decent, especially if Lucas has LESS influence.  At the same time, seeing how they've beat the snot out of that Pirates franchise, that potential is probably microscopically thin.


But also, for those scoring at home, Disney has now acquired The Muppets AND Star Wars.  What's next?

You forgot Marvel Comics.

They've already rebooted Spiderman, despite the last franchise ending in 2007.

I'm also fairly sure that 2011 set the record for the year with the most film remakes and adaptations, a record previously set in, uh, 2010.

Hollywood's in a death spiral of unoriginality and timidity.  "But if we make a film with no existing market support, how will we know for sure we'll make millions?"  It's called taking a risk you cheap fucks.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Mangrove on October 31, 2012, 03:07:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 31, 2012, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: Luna on October 30, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 30, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I see a slight potential in these movies actually being somewhat decent, especially if Lucas has LESS influence.  At the same time, seeing how they've beat the snot out of that Pirates franchise, that potential is probably microscopically thin.


But also, for those scoring at home, Disney has now acquired The Muppets AND Star Wars.  What's next?

You forgot Marvel Comics.

They've already rebooted Spiderman, despite the last franchise ending in 2007.

I'm also fairly sure that 2011 set the record for the year with the most film remakes and adaptations, a record previously set in, uh, 2010.

Hollywood's in a death spiral of unoriginality and timidity.  "But if we make a film with no existing market support, how will we know for sure we'll make millions?"  It's called taking a risk you cheap fucks.

:mittens:
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Aucoq on November 02, 2012, 02:27:06 AM
I'm betting this new trilogy (there's no way it's not going to be a trilogy, right?) will end up like the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy where the first movie is unique and awesome but the remaining two are just shitty money-grabs.  At least that's the feeling I get.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: East Coast Hustle on November 02, 2012, 02:56:25 AM
So, just like every Star Wars movie since Empire Strikes Back, then?

And that's the thing. I tried to get outraged about this whole thing but the truth is Star Wars was ruined when Return of the Jedi came out so who gives a fuck? Disney can't make it any worse.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Aucoq on November 02, 2012, 03:17:36 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 02, 2012, 02:56:25 AM
So, just like every Star Wars movie since Empire Strikes Back, then?

And that's the thing. I tried to get outraged about this whole thing but the truth is Star Wars was ruined when Return of the Jedi came out so who gives a fuck? Disney can't make it any worse.

Exactly.  I almost said "I hope this new movie is as good as Empire Strikes Back."  But then I thought that made me sound unrealistically optimistic.

I don't know if anyone is interested, but I read a great article a while back on what the fuck happened to the series between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi according to Gary Kurtz.  (Here. (http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/08/12/star-wars-was-born-a-long-time-ago-but-not-all-that-far-far-away-in-1972-filmmakers-george-lucas-and-gary-kurtz-wer/))

Quote"I could see where things were headed," Kurtz said. "The toy business began to drive the [Lucasfilm] empire. It's a shame. They make three times as much on toys as they do on films. It's natural to make decisions that protect the toy business, but that's not the best thing for making quality films."

He added: "The first film and 'Empire' were about story and character, but I could see that George's priorities were changing."

QuoteAfter the release of "Empire" (which was shaped by material left over from that first Lucas treatment), talk turned to a third film and after a decade and a half the partners could no longer find a middle ground.

"We had an outline and George changed everything in it," Kurtz said. "Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn't want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason."

The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone "like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns," as Kurtz put it.

Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.

He was especially disdainful of the Lucas idea of a second Death Star, which he felt would be too derivative of the 1977 film. "So we agreed that I should probably leave."

Kurtz's Return of the Jedi would've been pretty badass, imo.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Elder Iptuous on November 02, 2012, 06:09:26 PM
it's amazing, i think.
I've enjoyed all of the cheezy space opera spewed out of Lucasfilm,
but not half as much as the continuous gnashing of teeth by everyone emotionally invested in it.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on November 02, 2012, 07:14:18 PM
I liked the idea of the second death star...It demonstrated the very human capacity for repeating grandious, unworkable ideas.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Aucoq on November 02, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Quote from: Reverend Roadkill on November 02, 2012, 07:14:18 PM
I liked the idea of the second death star...It demonstrated the very human capacity for repeating grandious, unworkable ideas.

:lulz:

I never thought of it like that before, but you're absolutely right.  :lol:
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: dontblameyoko on November 06, 2012, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 30, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
The idea reserves went dry a long time ago. Sometime theyll find a new mine or some idea sands and theyll be able to extract a little bit of idea refine it sell it burn it. But yeah usually the emissions have to be recaptured and used to synthesize more idea.

yeah, this sounds about right.
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: Don Coyote on November 06, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
I've been hearing rumors of Disney being interested in aquiring Hasbro. :lulz:
Dungeons and Disney anyone?
Title: Re: Inevitable and unlimited destruction of the Galactic Empire thread...
Post by: dontblameyoko on November 06, 2012, 10:28:16 PM
"I've got a bad feeling about this."