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Discordianism
Discordianism claims to be the world's first true true religion and is based on worship of Eris, goddess of Chaos. One of it's two founders has been accused of complicity in the John F. Kennedy assassination.
While some claim the Discordian movement is a complicated joke disguised as a new religion, Discordians counter that it is actually a new religion disguised as a complicated joke.
The Discordians are divided into two camps, according to the rule, "We Discordians must stick apart." On one side, the Erisian Liberation Front (ELF) led by Ho Chih Zen (Kerry Thornley) promotes anarchist/libertarian anti-authoritarianism, and on the other side, the Paratheo-Anametamystikhood of Eris Esoteric (POEE), led by Malaclypse the Younger (Gregory Hill), teaches a more mystic, passive doctrine, vaguely akin to Charles Fort, Pataphysics, and Deconstructionism. These two Discordianisms represent the material manifestation of the metaphysical hodge and podge (see Sacred Chao). Other high Discordian priests/priestesses include Lady L, Fucking Anarchist Bitch*(a title given her by Eldridge Cleaver), Onrak the Backwards, Mordecai the Foul, Lola of Capitola, and Fang the Unwashed.
The founder of the Erisian Liberation Front, Kerry Thornley(Ho Chih Zen), was accused of complicity in the John F. Kennedy assassination by New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison. At first, Thornley believed Garrison was honestly mistaken, but later he decided that somebody had set him up to be the fall guy if the Oswald scenario collapsed. Atlhough Garrison never found enough evidence to convict him, Thornley still sends out bulletins on the case, claiming he and Oswald were both brainwashed by Naval Intelligence, that his memory was erased, but he has deduced what must have happened, that the Discordian Society was neither a joke nor a new religion but a CIA assassination bureau, and other astounding claims.
Both the Discordians and the Church of the Sub-Genius eagerly distribute Thornley's accusations and denunciations.
See Also:
Golden Apple Corps, Knights of the Five-Sided Castle, OM, Noon Blue Apples
References:
http://www.prairienet.org/~kkbuxton/discordia.html
Thornley- Conspiracies, Cover-Ups and Crimes, by Jonathan Vankin, IllumiNet Press, Liburn, GA, 1996, p. 6
Quote from: Telarus on June 26, 2010, 09:59:48 PM
-><- this is from Robert Anton Wilson's "Everything is Under Control" ~*~
Discordianism
Discordianism claim... One of it's two founders has been accused of complicity in the John F. Kennedy assassination.
See Also: Golden Apple Corps, Knights of the Five-Sided Castle, OM, Noon Blue Apples
References: http://www.prairienet.org/~kkbuxton/discordia.html
Thornley- Conspiracies, Cover-Ups and Crimes, by Jonathan Vankin, IllumiNet Press, Liburn, GA, 1996, p. 6
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At lest the second sentence should be factually correct, it was not just One. It was both One, the other, and not both, exclusively or not... Come to think of it may have been this Japanese girl...
[not being critical, just getting a footing, in actuality, my corrections are implied in you statement, so I stand so ;-]
Interesting, but this seems a bit more of a functional definition: http://www.erisbarandgrill.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=10631&page=1
Any true Discordian resists defining themselves. :fnord:
Quote from: malvarma on July 10, 2010, 11:37:44 PM
Any true Discordian resists defining themselves. :fnord:
We have a running gag here about "Real" Discordians.
The embarrassment of the discordian is to question the discord
"Only the true Messiah a real Discordian denies his Divinity Discordia"
"What sort of a choice does that give me? Oh all right then I am the Messiah a real Discordian!"
"He is the Messiaha real Discordian, he is the Messiah a really real Discordian!"
Noon Blue Apples
The most tantalizing part of the Church of Mary Magdalene/Priory of Sion mystery concerns the coded parchments found by Father Béranger Saunière in 1891. These parchments, on the surface, were mere transcriptions from the Latin Gospels, but certain letters were highlighted so as to yeild another set of messages in French. These messages contained references that, evidently, only somebody already initiated into the mystery could understand. They contain such memorable lines as:
This treasure belongs to Dagobert II King and to Sion and he is there dead.
And in the second parchment:
Shepherdess no temptation that Poussin Teniers hold the key peace 681 by the cross and this horse of God I complete this deamon guardian at noon blue apples.
See Also:
Jean Cocteau, Committee to Protect the Rights and Privileges of Low-Cost Housing, Dagobert II, Gerard de Sede, Gnomes of Zurich, Grand Orange Order of Ireland, Holy Order of the Lemon, Nicholas Poussin
References:
Holy Blood, Holy Grail, by Michael Baigent, Henry Lincoln, and Richard Leigh, Delacorte, New York, 1982
Is that the stuff that alludes to Poussin's painting "Shepherds of Arcadia", and the "Et in Arcadia Ego" inscription on the tomb?
Yup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_in_Arcadia_ego
http://www.philipcoppens.com/arcadia.html
http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/mrrigby.html
Thanks for the links. It seems to get more convoluted, the more it's researched.
I can't remember where I read it, but 'Et in Arcadia, Ego' is an anagram of 'I Tego Arcanum Dei' or 'I Conceal the Secrets of God'. But my Latin sucks, so I can't really be sure.
from the greek: to conceal the secrets of, would also reveal their truth...
The Priory of Sion was an elaborate French scam which may have connections to the Francophone branch of Operation Gladio, if only through aesthetic similarities (fake secret societies, former fascist sympathizers, royalists, conspiracy theorism etc). The link between Sion and the Grand Alpina Lodge, who were supposedly connected with Projekt-26, the Swiss branch of Gladio and the bankers for many Italian operations is tenuous, and may indeed suggest a second scam should the former one, with the stuff about Jesus' bloodline, ever be uncovered as false.
:cry: Maybe the Carbonari will cheer up mr. pasta...
Quote from: Cain on July 12, 2010, 12:03:33 PM
The Priory of Sion was an elaborate French scam which may have connections to the Francophone branch of Operation Gladio, if only through aesthetic similarities (fake secret societies, former fascist sympathizers, royalists, conspiracy theorism etc). The link between Sion and the Grand Alpina Lodge, who were supposedly connected with Projekt-26, the Swiss branch of Gladio and the bankers for many Italian operations is tenuous, and may indeed suggest a second scam should the former one, with the stuff about Jesus' bloodline, ever be uncovered as false.
Bloody good scam though. (The Jesus one) No-one has been able to even
prove it properly yet! And really, when you think of how many descendants one man can have, over 2000 years, then half of Europe could probably trace their Ancestry directly backwards to just about anyone you'd care to mention from that time.
I remember hearing something about the Church of Latter day Saints collecting a
huge DNA database in order to find some bloodline or other, for fuck knows what reason, but they are certainly looking for something.
(Just in case, I have a false ID, and a whole new cover life ready to walk into when they come knocking, I would suggest everyone else do the same, just to be on the safe side)
Hmm, that sounds interesting, I'd like to know what they plan to do with that.
Also remember, 0.5% of the entire world male population is descended from Genghis Khan and his closest male relatives http://web.unife.it/progetti/genetica/Giorgio/PDFfiles/ajhg2003.pdf.
There were some Mormons working in sensitive Government posts, and they copied a huge amount of Data for the Church, but I think it was played down by the Govt. I remember reading about it on Yahoo Answers, ages ago. I'll try and find something on it. Although Y/A
isn't the most reliable source of material, there may be a link or something.
Cool, thanks. I know historically the Mormons have been kinda weird (to put it nicely) about race and similar topics, but I thought they mostly got over that by now.
We need the brains of you two for The Colbert Conspiracy (aka ColbertGASM v2.3) (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?board=3.0).
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on July 12, 2010, 11:41:49 PM
We need the brains of you two for The Colbert Conspiracy (aka ColbertGASM v2.3) (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?board=3.0).
Agreed. Cram has some interesting developments on that front, and that thread was one of the reasons I posted the Noon Blue Apples entry second in this thread (I'm going to post all the See Also's in the Discordianism entry, then take requests).
I'm already working on getting Colbert familiar with the Mason Word, Mah-hah-bone (anyway, go post in the new ColbertGasm thread).
QuoteDiscordianism: A Definition
Oh boy. :p
For me, the most important, or valuable, aspect of Discordianism is its lack of rules, or rule-enforcement. Its consequent acceptance of any willing member no matter their variety is what makes it unique.
P.S. Hello after several months, PD.
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 08:29:25 AM
QuoteDiscordianism: A Definition
Oh boy. :p
For me, the most important, or valuable, aspect of Discordianism is its lack of rules, or rule-enforcement. Its consequent acceptance of any willing member no matter their variety is what makes it unique.
P.S. Hello after several months, PD.
How does one person setting forth a definition equate to "rules"?
And we don't accept any willing member.
plz note Dok's usage of "we" is referring to this forum, not discordians in general.
Quote from: Cramulus on August 10, 2010, 07:02:49 PM
plz note Dok's usage of "we" is referring to this forum, not discordians in general.
Actually, I was only referring to me and my 1000KG ego.
If any other Discordians really want to accept Uncle BadTouch and Dr Cowass, that's on them.
Dok,
Horribly intolerant bad person at large.
:lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 08:29:25 AM
QuoteDiscordianism: A Definition
Oh boy. :p
For me, the most important, or valuable, aspect of Discordianism is its lack of rules, or rule-enforcement. Its consequent acceptance of any willing member no matter their variety is what makes it unique.
P.S. Hello after several months, PD.
How does one person setting forth a definition equate to "rules"?
And we don't accept any willing member.
Only the "oh boy" was meant as a response to the quote. The rest was separate.
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 08:29:25 AM
QuoteDiscordianism: A Definition
Oh boy. :p
For me, the most important, or valuable, aspect of Discordianism is its lack of rules, or rule-enforcement. Its consequent acceptance of any willing member no matter their variety is what makes it unique.
P.S. Hello after several months, PD.
How does one person setting forth a definition equate to "rules"?
And we don't accept any willing member.
Only the "oh boy" was meant as a response to the quote. The rest was separate.
What's wrong with "a definition"? I could see bitching about "THE definition".
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 08:29:25 AM
QuoteDiscordianism: A Definition
Oh boy. :p
For me, the most important, or valuable, aspect of Discordianism is its lack of rules, or rule-enforcement. Its consequent acceptance of any willing member no matter their variety is what makes it unique.
P.S. Hello after several months, PD.
How does one person setting forth a definition equate to "rules"?
And we don't accept any willing member.
Only the "oh boy" was meant as a response to the quote. The rest was separate.
What's wrong with "a definition"? I could see bitching about "THE definition".
It's the sort of discussion I could see leading to an argument. Nothing
wrong with it.
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 10:57:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 10, 2010, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: Evan on August 10, 2010, 08:29:25 AM
QuoteDiscordianism: A Definition
Oh boy. :p
For me, the most important, or valuable, aspect of Discordianism is its lack of rules, or rule-enforcement. Its consequent acceptance of any willing member no matter their variety is what makes it unique.
P.S. Hello after several months, PD.
How does one person setting forth a definition equate to "rules"?
And we don't accept any willing member.
Only the "oh boy" was meant as a response to the quote. The rest was separate.
What's wrong with "a definition"? I could see bitching about "THE definition".
It's the sort of discussion I could see leading to an argument. Nothing wrong with it.
Well, we can't have that. Passive-aggressive mockery and the use of the :roll: emote is the only hope we have to forestall such an argument.
:wink:
Kights of the Five-Sided Castle
The Knights of the Five-Sided Castle (also known as the Order of Quixote) is the title of a sacred order within the Discordian Society, made up exclusively of the current chiefs of staff of the U.S. Army and the top brass of the Pentagon generally. Those intrepid warriors never asked for the honor, and may not even know they possess it, but the Keepers of the Sacred Chao and the Keeper of the Notary Sojac have bestowed it upon them anyway, in recognition of their contributions to increasing the five degrees of stochasticism in the world (chaos, discord, confusion, bureaucracy, and international relations.)
See Also:
Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland, Holy Order of the Lemon, Noon Blue Apples
References:
http://www.prairienet.org/~kkbuxton/discordia.html
The Golden Apple Corp
The Golden Apple Corp is the central committee, or "brain" of the Legion of Dynamic Discord, the activist branch of the Discordian Society. In official Discordian documents, members of the Golden Apple Corp affix the letters "K.S.C." after their names; this means "Keepers of the Sacred Chao". Very little else is known about them, and it is perhaps wise not to inquire further.
There are only two Keepers of the Sacred Chao, an no others will ever be authorized. Mordecai the Foul [R.A.W. -Tel], of the Santa Cruz cabal has compensated by taking the title Keeper of the Notary Sojac.
See Also:
Discordianism, Holy Order of the Lemon, Noon Blue Apples, OM
References:
http://www.prairienet.org/~kkbuxton/discordia.html
My definition of a Discordian:
1. Thinks for him/herself as much as humanly possible and as often as humanly possible.
2. Actively tries to see things the way they really are.
3. Engages in activities to get other people to do the same, or berate those who would discourage people to do the above.
4. Sees the fnords lulz.
5. Is a rock n roller, even if they can't play an instrument or sing.
6. Understands the idea of Saturday Night.
7. Understands Or Kill Me.
8. Understands that art - by the definition of the Discordian in question - is the highest human endeavor.
9. Will Kill a Motherfucker. Usually figuratively.
10. Knows when to stop digging their heels in with respect to #2.