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wooah! 



very nice, thank you Cain.

I agree to Cain.

I prefer to focus on the facts, and fact is this thread induced a remarkable result:

Somehow all compiled together like that, our answers seem brilliantly cohesive.

Hmm, you're right.

I'm not. 

how do I know if I'm Discordian or not?

Basically, you can just flip a coin.

If it comes up heads or tails, you're using a coin-flip to determine your religion, and you're probably a Discordian (or, respectively, not).

You did not read the post above yours, did you?  Dear 000! 

Nice summary, thank you LMNO

Somehow all compiled together like that, our answers seem brilliantly cohesive.

I think that's positive. 
Maybe. 

Okay, I was reading the threads and want to say sorry for sounding like a troll. I am not a troll. I want to learn about discordia an make sure I don't misunderstand so you can tell by my questions I had a misunderstood idea about what Discordia was.
You guys say think for yourself and disorder and order is balanced and should be kept in balance. Do Discordians use disorder more than order to balance the Chao?

That varies from person to person to situation to situation.  I tend to use Orderly techniques when I want things to work right, and disorderly methods when I want to make jokes or engage in skullduggery.  Sometimes, mixing and matching gets best mileage. 

It's all about what you're trying to do.

I'm thinking that sometimes also chaos is necessary to prevent chaos.
It seems that too much order results likely in destructive chaos (and I think politics and our social system is going in that direction), so nondestructive chaos brakes maybe order overwhelming a bit. Destructive chaos would speed up it.

So I find currently a good thing to spread some nondestructive chaos to brake the order overwhelming to prevent or delay an outburst of destructive chaos.

Maybe that makes sense, maybe its bullshit. Decide yourself   

she did a celebrity wife swap with someone..... 

oh noo!
WHY did she do that?

 

I tell children the sky is blue because it is sad that Samantha Fox isn't around much these days.

WHY isn't she much around these days?

does someone have a solution? 

but i WANT the optimist side to be right! because girl DESERVES it.

but but but but but but maybe Voodoo is right ...

I agree.
Question is whats better: Voodoos way and maybe have at least for a while a good time, or better to step apart after checking that the meaning of the boy is really the one the girl thinks?

I love this exercise 

Even when using it simply and not too serious it drives most people nuts   

Isn't it exactly what sometimes children do to test their parents patience?

"why... is the sky blue... why is the ... why is that.... why.... why ... why...." - "don't ask so many question, kid. this way you never became a accepted greyface" 

it's a nice thread 

Lets summarize:

1. ask questions, escpecially this ones which sounds stupid and senseless
2. don't be too sure that your point of view is the true one, you're wrong
3. don't listen too much to people which say you're wrong
4. don't summarize to say what discordian is.

5. discordian is, what you think discordian is. and it isn't.

catched 

Wasn't really hard if you had a look in my profile.
Or do you now me from the chat?   

Welcome back.  I think I know where you're coming from.

So, here goes:

The Secret™ is the Law of Fives wrapped up in the Quarter Trick, surrounded by narcissistic solipsism, and packaged by Marketing.

It is entirely Internal, but for people who have never tried Metaprogramming, it will appear to be External. The Secret™ counts on this fact to continue to manipulate people into buying more Stuff that will "help" them shape the Universe.

The big thing to note here is that the goal of The Secret™ is not to help people metaprogram their brain to bring happiness, it's to funnel them into a reality tunnel where, when things don't go their way, they blame themselves, and buy more Product to "help" them overcome their problems.

Much like Scientology.  The basic rules and excercises reprogram your perceptions, but only so far as to put you in another cage, based around specific consumerism.

Yeah, that's it!
Nice explained!

Where you think I'm coming from? 

nice topic.

^troll

why are you asking other people what the rules of Discordia are?
Think for Yourself, Shmuck!

The trick with Discordianism for an outsider, I feel, is that the harder you think about it, the harder you try to "figure it out" the more likely you are to miss the entire point and not get it. 

If you are starting with the Principia, you need to just read the book and kind of just soak in what's going on.  It is a tiny book so it may be very tempting to just plow through it and get to "the point".  But if you have zero familiarity with Discordianism, you really need to take your time with it.  I recommend reading it, setting it down for a couple days, and then return to it and really think about it.  And don't discount the marginalia.  I find that everything that is in the PD is there for a reason, and is part of the puzzle.  That line at the end of the book is key, paraphrasing: "If you think the Principia is just a ha ha, read it again"  It is very easy to not take it seriously. 

I also think it will be a little difficult to "get it" depending on how you naturally think.  I never heard of Discordianism until I borrowed the book from a friend (who happens to be a Christian btw) and this was only a couple of months before I joined this place.  But, I think I had a way of thinking that was pretty much in line with the philosophies in the book.  I was tickled pink to discovere there was a whole "religious" movement devoted to that kind of thinking.  Another key, I think, is being able to step back from your thoughts.  To understand what impacts your thoughts and what motivates you to think in certain ways. 

Payne had it right, I think you might want to also read the Black Iron Prison: Discordia Revisited.  You can download it at www.blackironprison.com  We also have some other writings that speak to that idea and metaphor.  It might help you further understand where some of us come from with this thing and how we approach it, and moreover to really get a good understanding of the "Think For Yourself, Schmuck" concept. 

We live in a pretty fucked up world.  There is much that is beyond our control and there is this manmade societal monstrosity that pulls at many strings.  Those armed, with themselves, I think, stand the best chance at recognizing the machinery that is in place, in the human world, and have a better chance at negotiating the cogs and gears throughout. 

That says it, I think.