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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: Cramulus on June 17, 2014, 07:51:15 PM

Title: Historia Discordia
Post by: Cramulus on June 17, 2014, 07:51:15 PM
(http://historiadiscordia.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/book-cover-historia_discordia-adam_gorightly2.jpg)

I just picked up Adam Gorightly's latest book, the Historia Discordia. It's cool! It's basically a catalog of vintage Erisian stuff that was gathering dust in Bob Newport's basement, including a ton of original Discordian correspondences and tracts. Tons of lost writings by Mal-2. Great coffee table book for the Discordian archivist or researcher.

I've enjoyed tracing the evolution of a lot of the concepts in the PD. For example, there's that line in the PD about how Discordians don't have dogma, they have catma. And it turns out there's a whole little sermon about it that wasn't included in the PD and to my knowledge isn't on the net anywhere. There are a lot of 1st edition PD pages which were revised several times before the 5th edition we're familiar with. A lot of the jokes and 1-liners from the PD are referencing other Discordian documents which have been lost, until now.

For those of us interested in the genealogy of this whackadoo contraption, this is really satisfying. It gives a sense about what the first Discordian communities were like, and who the key players were. (something I've always been curious about) It's also pretty cool to see the early much rougher drafts of some of the texts we're familiar with.

Definitely recommend this for the archivists, collectors, and insane hoarders that get stuck in Eris' orbit.



[amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/Historia-Discordia-Adam-Gorightly/dp/1618613219)]
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: UB on June 18, 2014, 01:25:51 AM
*Not offended*

Um. Its a beautiful share. Im looking into it.

Is the author French?
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Reginald Ret on June 19, 2014, 01:20:57 PM
Cool Cram, that sounds quite interesting.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: hooplala on June 19, 2014, 02:49:17 PM
I believe I will pick this up... although my birthday is just around the corner...
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Junkenstein on June 19, 2014, 03:07:26 PM
I'd consider it bad form to not offer the right of reply here, and I'm guessing the author is more likely to check this thread than any others.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=36618.0

Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Gorightly on June 20, 2014, 08:12:46 AM
It's bad form indeed. www.historiadiscordia.com
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Gorightly on June 20, 2014, 08:14:39 AM
And that it's reply # 5 makes it a good thing.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on June 20, 2014, 09:49:20 AM
Cool, I'll pick this up, Looks interesting Adam.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on June 20, 2014, 10:31:15 AM
Out of stock :[ but preorder placed.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: MMIX on June 20, 2014, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2014, 10:31:15 AM
Out of stock :[ but preorder placed.
Yeah, me too.
Do you think that if we place enough pre-orders so that it was sold out before it ever arrived it might disappear in a puff of logic metaphysics?
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on June 20, 2014, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: MMIX on June 20, 2014, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2014, 10:31:15 AM
Out of stock :[ but preorder placed.
Yeah, me too.
Do you think that if we place enough pre-orders so that it was sold out before it ever arrived it might disappear in a puff of logic metaphysics?

The kickstarter effect?
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: MMIX on June 20, 2014, 06:06:09 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2014, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: MMIX on June 20, 2014, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2014, 10:31:15 AM
Out of stock :[ but preorder placed.
Yeah, me too.
Do you think that if we place enough pre-orders so that it was sold out before it ever arrived it might disappear in a puff of logic metaphysics?

The kickstarter effect?

Maybe more like the kickass effect, though I'm not really up for anything that involves kicking today as I've just watched the Italy match and I think I may have to go drown my sorrows; not an easy thing to do when you aren't a drinker. I know . . . I just sank the Italian football squad. Yeah, I feel better already.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on June 20, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
Sorry I meant like kickstarter.com

Something gets loads and loads of hype, and generally proportional to that hype is how many delays, angry people, etc appear.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: MMIX on June 20, 2014, 08:00:13 PM
Quote from: Faust on June 20, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
Sorry I meant like kickstarter.com

Something gets loads and loads of hype, and generally proportional to that hype is how many delays, angry people, etc appear.

Lol, yeah I got what you meant I just needed somewhere to dump my World Cup miseries. :( It could be worse though, Ireland and Wales might have qualified.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Cramulus on June 29, 2014, 01:11:18 AM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/7a617824cd80f75f1555d7d3b9a3933d/tumblr_n7woplSR2A1roo64to2_1280.jpg)

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Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: MMIX on June 29, 2014, 09:21:17 AM
The contents are awesome but sadly the paper is truly awful - unless you are looking for something to wipe your arse with

I breathed on it and it puckered up









edit: Removed unhelpful edit
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Cramulus on June 29, 2014, 01:14:40 PM
huh?
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: MMIX on June 29, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 29, 2014, 01:14:40 PM
huh?

The cheap paper or the unhelpful edit
or maybe something entirely different???
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 14, 2014, 03:27:19 AM
I just wanted to pop in here to point out that Gorightly seems to actually be just another two-bit asshole and fuck giving that guy money for some shit he didn't even write.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: LMNO on July 14, 2014, 11:45:42 AM
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Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on July 14, 2014, 11:57:26 AM
I don't think so. I bought the book, I'm reading it and it seems pretty well researched and it's not just a collection of pieces from the earliest Discorians.

Its not not a cornerstone of historical research, but it's better than anecdotal and it's probably the most in depth account of the early Discordian society which is a nice thing to have for those who care (most dont, but it's interesting to me)
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Junkenstein on July 14, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
Question - How much does it cost and where does the money go?

I'd probably find it quite interesting, from a historical angle if nothing else but I'm very averse to actually paying cash money.

I'm not saying any of those who have bought it to date should scan and upload it for general consumption. I'm just saying I doubt I'll read it unless that occurs.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on July 14, 2014, 02:39:10 PM
Quote from: MMIX on June 29, 2014, 09:21:17 AM
The contents are awesome but sadly the paper is truly awful - unless you are looking for something to wipe your arse with

I breathed on it and it puckered up









edit: Removed unhelpful edit

I had images of brown burlap, the paper is fine... its like text book paper, it's not fancy, but fancy paper is very expensive for printing.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: MMIX on July 14, 2014, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 14, 2014, 02:39:10 PM
Quote from: MMIX on June 29, 2014, 09:21:17 AM
The contents are awesome but sadly the paper is truly awful - unless you are looking for something to wipe your arse with

I breathed on it and it puckered up









edit: Removed unhelpful edit

I had images of brown burlap, the paper is fine... its like text book paper, it's not fancy, but fancy paper is very expensive for printing.

I just don't think it will last very long. Which is kind of sad for a book. I  am kind of conflicted really because if it had been printed on paper which didn't pucker up with the humidity of a hand then it would probably have seemed to be too expensive to buy.

ALSO: I agree with your brief review 100%
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: LMNO on July 14, 2014, 03:30:04 PM
It's probably the same paper quality as the et cetera was.  Which isn't bad, but it's already starting to yellow a bit.

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Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on July 14, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
Bought that too, I should have ages ago, I've no excuse.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: MMIX on July 14, 2014, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 14, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
Bought that too, I should have ages ago, I've no excuse.
Well my excuse for the longest time was that I couldn't find the european version and I was damned if I was going to pay more for shipping than for the book itself, no matter how good the book. And it is very good.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 14, 2014, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on July 14, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
Question - How much does it cost and where does the money go?

I'd probably find it quite interesting, from a historical angle if nothing else but I'm very averse to actually paying cash money.

I'm not saying any of those who have bought it to date should scan and upload it for general consumption. I'm just saying I doubt I'll read it unless that occurs.

Pretty much this. I'll give it an eyeball if it's free but I'm not giving that misogynistic piece of shit any money.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on July 14, 2014, 05:45:18 PM
Can some one please link me to where this misogynistic thing is coming from because that's twice today I've seen it.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 14, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 14, 2014, 05:45:18 PM
Can some one please link me to where this misogynistic thing is coming from because that's twice today I've seen it.

On his Facebook wall, and I doubt it's still there.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
Faust, start here (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=36465.msg1344260#msg1344260).
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on July 14, 2014, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
Faust, start here (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=36465.msg1344260#msg1344260).

He's deleted the message. Does anyone have the original text.

Better, Adam do you want to explain?
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: LMNO on July 14, 2014, 07:36:48 PM
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=36465.msg1344290#msg1344290

I'd use the quote fucntion, but I think the thread is locked due to it being an old Open Bar thread.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on July 14, 2014, 08:06:46 PM
Ok, I was hoping to see the original message, never mind
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Reginald Ret on July 14, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
I seem to remember a time when nothing was lost on the internet. Oh well, pining for the past never made anyone happy.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Gorightly on July 14, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 14, 2014, 05:45:18 PM
Can some one please link me to where this misogynistic thing is coming from because that's twice today I've seen it.

Faust, The post in question is still on my facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/adam.gorightly/posts/10202980233000687?comment_id=10202980276641778&offset=0&total_comments=7&notif_t=share_reply

However, I think we'd need to be facebook "friends" for someone to view it, that's why some have been suggesting it was removed.  Whether I was being "serious" or satirical, I'll leave it for others to decide.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: hooplala on July 14, 2014, 11:02:48 PM
Quote from: Gorightly on July 14, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 14, 2014, 05:45:18 PM
Can some one please link me to where this misogynistic thing is coming from because that's twice today I've seen it.

Faust, The post in question is still on my facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/adam.gorightly/posts/10202980233000687?comment_id=10202980276641778&offset=0&total_comments=7&notif_t=share_reply

However, I think we'd need to be facebook "friends" for someone to view it, that's why some have been suggesting it was removed.  Whether I was being "serious" or satirical, I'll leave it for others to decide.

Cute dodge. 

I guess when money is on the line, you have to answer like that.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Faust on July 14, 2014, 11:30:45 PM
I just wanted to see it for myself. I wouldn't want my mind to be made up for me by someone else sight unseen.

I don't think he is a misogynist.

Because this involves roger which I didn't realise before I asked, I won't mention it again, I'm not interested in any drama.

It's not what I'm seeing in front of me though, don't take my word for it either.

Edit:Not from Adam anyway, one of his friends yes but I'm not interested in his friend I don't know them.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 15, 2014, 03:49:41 AM
Actually, I was just talking about that crap he said in the "PL was trying to be edgily racist" thread. I don't know the first thing about his facebook page.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 15, 2014, 04:12:51 AM
One thing I do know about Gorightly is that if he has a photograph, and doesn't know who owns the rights to it, he apparently thinks it makes it his to publish.

Which CAN be the case, but c'mon, man, due diligence.

Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 15, 2014, 04:13:23 AM
That and he's one of those dudes who only seems to post to promote his book.
Title: Re: Historia Discordia
Post by: Salty on July 15, 2014, 04:52:22 AM
I know 2 facts about Gorightly, and only 2:
1. He sells books, or a book.
2. He is a petty shitbag.