Quote from: Majeh on October 04, 2024, 10:00:03 PMQuote from: Doktor Howl on October 04, 2024, 07:29:31 PMI mean, sure, ignore the very real very police state bullshit world we live in and, yeah, I guess it would be all our faults that we were born in the worst fucking timeline with shitty access to resources.Quote from: Majeh on October 04, 2024, 04:57:57 AMThe massive problem with collective action in today's world is the massive oversight that the FBI, NSA, and CIA have over our lives.Hell yeah. Beats blaming ourselves.
Note, I never said anything was impossible, but the reality is reality and if we ignore the very real road blocks ahead of us it becomes a one way ticket to having them steam roll us while we try to make any changes. If you have something to add that will grease the wheels of progress, I'm all ears.
Dude, the CIA is not spying on you. They don't even know you exist. They have no interest in your "subversive" ideas.
Your phone IS spying on you, but it's for Amazon and Meta and Blackrock. They DO have an interest, because they would like to sell you things with your subversive ideas printed on them.
You're paranoid, but you're not paranoid enough. You worry about all the wrong things, and you are frustrated because The Man is supposedly in the way of you doing things that were largely ineffective way the hell back in the 1960s when the best they could do was listen in on your home phone.
Now you can't drive to the drugstore without being tracked by half a dozen OLRs, and ANYONE can track you with the phone you increasingly can't live without.
They - Amazon, Meta, the 4 remaining owners of all the major grocery stores, whatever - own the ball AND the ball park. You can do "collective action" all day long, and nobody will care. Unless you go overboard, in which case you can work for above said megacorps for $0.50/hour in a prison call center so you accumulate good time towards release.
The chance to overturn The Man came and went in 1960. And, sadly, you can't lure your crush into bed by hollering about the revolution like you could in the good old days.
Eris never promised you freedom.
Eris never promised you good choices.
Eris only pointed out that you can still have a good time, that is, if you're serious about havin' a good time.
Or you can worry about shit you can't change.
That brings up a question: Who are you trying to save? You can't save the rubes, because they LIKE this shit. You can't save the poor, because you yourself lack the resources to do so. You can't even save yourself, because you are part of the system you are bitching about.
Collective action. You're already doing it. Just not the way you imagined.