Face it, America. It's time to give up the charade. It's 230 years overdue, anyway. We had a good run of it, and around the end of the 19th Century, it even looked promising. But let's stop deluding ourselves already. Let's put away the Norman Rockwells, hang up the cell phone for a minute, and give the Republic five seconds of eulogy time.
We never really wanted this Noble Experiment. There are a few of us, now relegated to lurking in the shadows, only brave enough to show half our faces, and only in the daylight when there's at least enough of us to overpower the riot police, who are going to miss the trip we started out on 200 years ago. But we're a minority, and we're going to be silenced, and nobody is listening anyway.
All I'll ask from anybody today is to just come out and say it. We all know it anyway, so there's no point in pretending, America. Just say you're done with freedom, and liberty. Just say it. You don't want the freedom to be different. You don't want freedom of speech, freedom of the press, or freedom of religion. You don't want the right to a fair trial. You don't want the writ of Habeas Corpus, or solid education, or protection from unlawful search and seizure.
You want the freedom to agree. You want "Safe Streets" and you want "Guaranteed Futures" and you want everybody to slow down so you're kid won't be Left Behind. You want somebody to protect you from the Real World. And to shut anyone up who reminds you about just how bad it can be... Out There. You don't want to live with danger, you don't want to live with uncertainty, and you're scared to death of living with anything you don't understand. But life IS danger, uncertainty, and it's filled with the unknown. So, just face it. You don't want to live at all.
But, see, you've taken your security blanket, and you've strangled the Revolution with it. You've smothered the life from liberty with your down-filled extra-stuffed pillows. You'd call the Sons of Liberty a "Terrorist Organization" if they were around today. You'd run screaming into the arms of the RedCoats, rather than face an uncertain future with nothing to guide you but a few lofty dreams. You'd prefer death at the hands of a tyrant to the prospect of building a life where you have to make room for somebody else to build theirs. Getting to know your neighbors. Getting to know yourself scares you.
You're not the America that stood up 230 years ago to shake off its chains and claim Independance and Liberty for itself. You're not the America that fought with itself to rid its institutions of deeply-seated injustice and slavery. That America is dead. It's caved in, rotted, and given way completely to the America that expanded westward over the corpses of defenseless women and children; the America that now pukes out empty rhetoric where action should go; the America that entombs itself with meaningless wars of choice. You are patriots of that America; I am a patriot of the Dead Revolution: the America that exists now only as the perfume you use to disguise your poisonous lies.
Partick Henry's spinning in his grave
- that was a really good rant
holy sweet fuck
vex is looking out of the correct Troof-Tinted Goggles and firing directly on target
So right. So sad.
:mittens:
Very good rant, though I've seen this so many times before, about the coming of the New American Empire.
I suppose one can't get enough troof, though.
I think I'll start on a rant.
I wonder if as an Englishman i have any cause to berate my own country. Certainly the Americans broke away from our English dogma, lack of action, down trodden population.
So now you're coming back to mother, and you're seeing how things have always been in England. I suppose i was nieve in thinking that things are getting worse in this country when things have always been worse for Those Left Behind.
Perhaps once again we need a Mayflower to sail from Southampton and start afresh, not with any direction or constitution, just with a hope and a prayer (to Eris)
You want UK ranting? Check out Cain's stuff. It's pretty fookin brilliant.
Quote from: LMNO on December 20, 2006, 01:26:25 PM
You want UK ranting?  Check out Cain's stuff.  It's pretty fookin brilliant.
UK ranting is like cheating. Hating a country as shit as this virtually writes itself.
I enjoyed this greatly. It saddens me that when I speak somewhat openly with people who should be patriots and should uphold the cause that created this country, but my opinion gets me looked at as an outsider. How can one defend the Constitution if you don't keep that fire burning and overthrow the tyranical government we have now, start anew with people from the bottom, who haven't been spoiled their whole lives and trained as politicians, who know what it feels like to be ignored. The only problem is putting these people, the people targeted by this rant, into positions where they represent their peers is that they don't know how to think "outside the box". Perhaps it is the people with the new "extreme" ideas who should run the nation, against the preference of the masses. I love my country for what it was supposed to be, but I hate what it is.
Anyway, yeah, I liked it.
I forgot about this.
I've placed it in the POEEcast queue, if'n that's ok with Vex.
Har har!
The nation was founded on the ideals of freedom and liberty.
The problem arose when some groups didn't have it and demanded overcompensation for all of time, when poor people decided they had a right to money (which I sure as hell wish I could understand), and when people began promoting "family values" or Christian ideals as if they were somehow legitimate sources of law.
All of those things restrict, bind, rape, and kill liberty. You can't be free in America unless it's the Christian values politically correct don't want to get tortured so I'll keep my mouth shut middle class Social Security free that has been designed for you.
So in that way, I disagree. You have complete freedom to do what they want you to. :?
QuoteThe problem arose when some groups didn't have it and demanded overcompensation for all of time, when poor people decided they had a right to money
Im just wondering if you would be willing to explain this further.
what he means is "Fucking peasants always picnicking on my grouse hunting grounds!"
Thats what i thought he ment, but I want him to be able to say his piece before I start a flame war. Considering he IS under 50 still.
What is a revolution anyway?
There is a book called "Anatomy of a Revolution" by Crane Brinton that examines the American Revolution, the French Revolution, the Bolshevik Revolution, and the English Civil War.  He describes a revolution as a four phase event.  First, you have problems arising out of the old order.  Second, you see the actual revolution being instantiated in a climactic overthrow of the old order.  Third, there follows a crisis period or "reign of terror" where the revolutionary moderates are silenced by extremists.  Finally, you reach a "Thermidorian" reaction, where the people abandon the radical revolutionaries and seek out a new stability, which most often involves a return to the old order once again in some way or another.
So we see that a revolution is just as its name stipulates.  Comparing a society to a wheel, we see that a revolution is more often than not a simple 360 degree spin of that wheel.  Of course, there are some changes within the society that do result from the revolution.  That is, some shit does fly off the wheel if you spin it hard enough.  However, the revolution itself is only a catalyst that temporarily speeds up the society's present course of action.  Fundamentally, or rather inevitably, the society stays its original course, after leaving behind a trail of jetsam.
What do we conclude from all of this?
Well, we can ask ourselves this question: can we really expect anything other than a return to the old, when all we ever do is spin our proverbial wheels a bit?
of course not.
but, then again, 200 years ago they didn't have briefcase nukes.
vexati0n,
saying too much again.
Quote from: Sir Perineal on February 24, 2007, 05:05:03 AM
Well, we can ask ourselves this question: can we really expect anything other than a return to the old, when all we ever do is spin our proverbial wheels a bit?
Kill yourself. If you want everything to change and stay that way, take the whole bottle of sleeping pills or throw the radio into the bathtub. People are way too dumb for genuine change to occur. Party while you can, expand your mind while you've still got a brain, and enjoy youself as much as you can before the whole goddamn ecosystem collapses and the world's back to a hot sea of amino acids, waiting for a new race to fuck it up again.
(And I strongly suggest participation in all revolutions, regardless of misguidedness. You never know when my lazy nihilistic ass will be wrong.)
How do we know they are misguided until we give them a chance. If someone wants to try to change things and I disagree with their, cause if they are able to defeat me and mine then more power to them. But they need to keep those briefcase nukes in mind if they fuck with us. As well as all the other toys that are more easily available outside of the US due tto the fact that our government fears being overthrown (which is what is supposed to appen in times like these)
America is long overdue for a revolution, but the citizens are complacent bitches, and I am currently supporting their complacency, so feel free to blame me for not wasting my life attempting to change this shit system that has been cultivated over the last century, and allowing these worthless fucks to make it worse.
Some people like to pretend that Nazi germany and the Soviet Union were short lived because they could not work, but our government is headed towards fascism, and Communism might work if people were not corrupt and could do things without fucking everything up.
Quote from: rygD on February 24, 2007, 07:31:53 PM
our government is headed towards fascism, and Communism might work if people were not corrupt and could do things without fucking everything up.
:stfu:
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 24, 2007, 10:13:15 PM
Quote from: rygD on February 24, 2007, 07:31:53 PM
our government is headed towards fascism, and Communism might work if people were not corrupt and could do things without fucking everything up.
:stfu:
Facism is on the social spectrum, comunism is on the economic spectrum.
You can easily have a Facist state under communism, socialism, or capitalism.
Um, no, you can't. Not unless you totally change the meaning of the words.
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 24, 2007, 10:13:15 PM
Quote from: rygD on February 24, 2007, 07:31:53 PM
our government is headed towards fascism, and Communism might work if people were not corrupt and could do things without fucking everything up.
:stfu:
If you don't like it, fuck you.
Quote from: Cain on February 25, 2007, 01:55:49 AM
Um, no, you can't. Not unless you totally change the meaning of the words.
:? Weren't you the one that showed me the political compass? The social and economic domains were on different spectrums.
Ahh, I see. You were reffering to socialism.
Sorry.
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on February 25, 2007, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 25, 2007, 01:55:49 AM
Um, no, you can't. Not unless you totally change the meaning of the words.
:? Weren't you the one that showed me the political compass? The social and economic domains were on different spectrums.
Ahh, I see. You were reffering to socialism.
Sorry.
I probably did show you the compass, but Fascism has always been a special ideology that remains hard to pin down. It is highly (absolutely) authoritarian, but the source of that is not negation like in Communism/Capitalism.
If you want, I'll write up my reply as a rant as its quite hard to explain in a few short words. Fascism has some highly complex and seemingly contradictory thought behind it, made more dangerous by its apparently simplicity, exaltation of violence and moronic nationalism.
Quote from: Cain on February 25, 2007, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on February 25, 2007, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: Cain on February 25, 2007, 01:55:49 AM
Um, no, you can't. Not unless you totally change the meaning of the words.
:? Weren't you the one that showed me the political compass? The social and economic domains were on different spectrums.
Ahh, I see. You were reffering to socialism.
Sorry.
I probably did show you the compass, but Fascism has always been a special ideology that remains hard to pin down. It is highly (absolutely) authoritarian, but the source of that is not negation like in Communism/Capitalism.
If you want, I'll write up my reply as a rant as its quite hard to explain in a few short words. Fascism has some highly complex and seemingly contradictory thought behind it, made more dangerous by its apparently simplicity, exaltation of violence and moronic nationalism.
If you do, I will read it, as I read everything of yours.
Quote from: vexati0n on February 24, 2007, 03:43:21 AM
what he means is "Fucking peasants always picnicking on my grouse hunting grounds!"
I took it more as "everyone should be guaranteed equality of
opportunity, not necessarily equality of
outcome."
IOW, the "peasants" shouldn't feel entitled to wealth, they should feel entitled to the opportunity to acquire wealth (in whatever form it may take).