http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjk1Ruu2FQ
:lol:
That would have been more entertaining if the guy had been even slightly more articulate. Also I'm no prude about profanity but he didn't use it very well. Plus he immediately apologized for all his insults, what the fuck?
Where did he apologize for all his insults?
Almost at the end he said something about all pagans being able to accomplish was buying a dime bag from the neighbor with their welfare checks, then promptly said "Ohhhh that was a bit too harsh I'm sorry etc etc" (paraphrased of course).
Seriously, if you're going to take a knife to someone you don't offer them a bandage afterwards.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 22, 2006, 09:14:35 AM
Almost at the end he said something about all pagans being able to accomplish was buying a dime bag from the neighbor with their welfare checks, then promptly said "Ohhhh that was a bit too harsh I'm sorry etc etc" (paraphrased of course).
Seriously, if you're going to take a knife to someone you don't offer them a bandage afterwards.
See, I read that as sarcasm. If you read any of the replies, you'll see no bandages.
Looks to me like he's just owning the fuck out of pagans.
He's too inarticulate? Maybe. Maybe you can convince him to do it in iambic pentameter.
Funny but a bit redundant. I mean pagans already own the fuck out themselves :-D
very nice
Pagans ftw :D
And I think it was a real bandage :)
Quote from: Discord on December 22, 2006, 11:25:25 AM
very nice
Pagans ftw :D
And I think it was a real bandage :)
Then you have to wonder why he made another video subsequently about how pagans make the best kindling.
Context FTW.
All the pictures were of goths, which are admittedly more concerned about image than substance. In all of the things I've learned about Paganism it is an internal exploration of what works for the individual, instead of a forced conformity and conversion as perpetrated by the Abrahamic religions. Also I feel a Nature based religion would fit better with the idea of sustainability instead of the "The purpose of Man is to Dominate and Subdue the Earth, 'cause God says so." In addition, does that guy include all of the Indians, Africans, Aborigines, Islanders, and all the other people who historically subscribe to Animism?
As far as magic goes, I do think that the lure of easy power is a draw to many people in our culture who feel powerless in their lives otherwise. I also think that people would abandon something new if it didn't work, and I've actually seen events resolve themselves in favor of people who've done "Spells." I think it all revolves around the power of belief and focused intent, but anybody who takes anything too seriously (including atheism) is a Tardo.
The man should organize his arguments better, and be more articulate, but he's right, he doesn't have to defend himself to anyone, I just think he's a moron.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 22, 2006, 09:26:36 PM
All the pictures were of goths, which are admittedly more concerned about image than substance. In all of the things I've learned about Paganism it is an internal exploration of what works for the individual, instead of a forced conformity and conversion as perpetrated by the Abrahamic religions. Also I feel a Nature based religion would fit better with the idea of sustainability instead of the "The purpose of Man is to Dominate and Subdue the Earth, 'cause God says so." In addition, does that guy include all of the Indians, Africans, Aborigines, Islanders, and all the other people who historically subscribe to Animism?
As far as magic goes, I do think that the lure of easy power is a draw to many people in our culture who feel powerless in their lives otherwise. I also think that people would abandon something new if it didn't work, and I've actually seen events resolve themselves in favor of people who've done "Spells." I think it all revolves around the power of belief and focused intent, but anybody who takes anything too seriously (including atheism) is a Tardo.
The man should organize his arguments better, and be more articulate, but he's right, he doesn't have to defend himself to anyone, I just think he's a moron.
Well, that's all I need to understand that you're a superstitious pothead.
You're exactly the kind of idiot our inarticulate friend is talking about. Do yourself a favor hippie, KY&FTB.
Yes, definitely you should close your mind to anything I have to say, because you might get infected with my "stoner" germs and superior logic. I'm not a Pagan myself, and I think whatever "magic powers" they use are in their own mind. I also think it's possible to see phenomena that is inexplicable to Science, yet completely explainable by the power of the human mind to alter its own reality.
How am I a hippie? I've never owned anything tie-dyed, a minibus, or hugged a tree. I DO have a mohawk and facial piercings, but that's cause I like scaring all the soccer-moms with minivans.
In addition, trying to force me to conform to your opinions with personal attacks is doomed to failure.
Just Sayin'
:troll:
care to elaborate?
Will somebody join me in a new trend i'm trying to start?
I want to start a new goth movement, but REAL goths. Basically we wear bear fur, get drunk, and raid villages (especially Roman villages). As opposed to todays fake goths we will not wear makeup, unless dirt and rage are considered makeup. Our jewelry will be pieces of our enemy, our tattoos will be battle scars.
Any takers? If not, next stop: Norse Worship.
can we rape the horses and ride off on the women?
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 12:30:31 AM
Yes, definitely you should close your mind to anything I have to say, because you might get infected with my "stoner" germs and superior logic. I'm not a Pagan myself, and I think whatever "magic powers" they use are in their own mind. I also think it's possible to see phenomena that is inexplicable to Science, yet completely explainable by the power of the human mind to alter its own reality.
How am I a hippie? I've never owned anything tie-dyed, a minibus, or hugged a tree. I DO have a mohawk and facial piercings, but that's cause I like scaring all the soccer-moms with minivans.
In addition, trying to force me to conform to your opinions with personal attacks is doomed to failure.
Just Sayin'
I'm not trying to force you to do shit, genius.
With your superior dopey-enlightened logic I'm sure you'll valiantly take a bullet for every last spineless subculture, whether they've got a wish candle shoved up their ass or are fucking in smegma crusted fursuits.
You truly are the people's hero.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 12:30:31 AM
Yes, definitely you should close your mind to anything I have to say, because you might get infected with my "stoner" germs and superior logic.  I'm not a Pagan myself, and I think whatever "magic powers" they use are in their own mind.  I also think it's possible to see phenomena that is inexplicable to Science, yet completely explainable by the power of the human mind to alter its own reality. 
How am I a hippie?  I've never owned anything tie-dyed, a minibus, or hugged a tree.  I DO have a mohawk and facial piercings, but that's cause I like scaring all the soccer-moms with minivans.
In addition, trying to force me to conform to your opinions with personal attacks is doomed to failure. 
Just Sayin'
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Just saying.
Quote from: Netaungrot on December 23, 2006, 03:52:52 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 12:30:31 AM
Yes, definitely you should close your mind to anything I have to say, because you might get infected with my "stoner" germs and superior logic.  I'm not a Pagan myself, and I think whatever "magic powers" they use are in their own mind.  I also think it's possible to see phenomena that is inexplicable to Science, yet completely explainable by the power of the human mind to alter its own reality. 
How am I a hippie?  I've never owned anything tie-dyed, a minibus, or hugged a tree.  I DO have a mohawk and facial piercings, but that's cause I like scaring all the soccer-moms with minivans.
In addition, trying to force me to conform to your opinions with personal attacks is doomed to failure. 
Just Sayin'
I'm not trying to force you to do shit, genius.
With your superior dopey-enlightened logic I'm sure you'll valiantly take a bullet for every last spineless subculture, whether they've got a wish candle shoved up their ass or are fucking in smegma crusted fursuits.
You truly are the people's hero.
Anyone who thinks smoking shit makes their logic superior should kill themselves and fuck the body.
You just gave me the best laugh I've had all day, Thank You!
I'm not really defending anything, just pointing out the guy's a Tardo for posting a low-quality rant with next to no logic and a distinct dearth of speaking skills. If I were to put, what, 7 minutes of my thoughts out there where people were likely to hear them, I'd make sure it all made sense first, and use evidence to support my assertions, instead of just bitching and moaning like any waste of resources can do.
Wanna hate the Pagans? Go for it. Wanna hate the Jews, Gays, Blacks, Space Aliens? Be my guest! But if you want me to agree with you, you better have a damn good argument, or I'll tell you why my opinion is superior to yours.
Eat Me FTW
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 04:28:48 AM
You just gave me the best laugh I've had all day, Thank You!
I'm not really defending anything, just pointing out the guy's a Tardo for posting a low-quality rant with next to no logic and a distinct dearth of speaking skills. 
Logic isn't required to laugh at Pagans.
Neither are good speaking skills.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 04:28:48 AM
Wanna hate the Pagans? Go for it.  Wanna hate the Jews, Gays, Blacks, Space Aliens? 
Are you seriously comparing what Jews have gone through to laughing at some silly bastard claiming that he can practice "Mahdgjickque"?
Really?
what I am comparing is the ease of verballing attacking anything with the difficulty of doing it well. I don't care what group you hate, but I will disagree if you can't convince me you're right.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 04:47:41 AM
what I am comparing is the ease of verballing attacking anything with the difficulty of doing it well. 
So Hitler is preferable to this guy? UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!
Not preferable, but a damn sight more effective.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 04:53:56 AM
Not preferable, but a damn sight more effective.
QUOTED FOR LAIL.
Please to be refuting:
Nature based religions are better for keeping the planet alive than our current system of Christianity/Science/Capitalism.
The video was poorly made, poorly thought out, and poorly articulated with pictures that do not represent the entirety of the intended target (I would even argue goths to be a different subculture entirely).
Otherwise you're being just as worthless as the Tardo in the video itself.
Just sayin'
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 05:39:47 AM
Please to be refuting:
Nature based religions are better for keeping the planet alive than our current system of Christianity/Science/Capitalism.
The video was poorly made, poorly thought out, and poorly articulated with pictures that do not represent the entirety of the intended target (I would even argue goths to be a different subculture entirely).
Otherwise you're being just as worthless as the Tardo in the video itself.
Just sayin'
1. Please SUPPORT that assertion. Do Pagans not pollute? Do they not use the very same products that Christians use, that are manufactured in pollutting ways?
2. So he used some pictures of Goths? So fucking what? How does that retract from the rant? We don't even know if he arranged the visuals.
3. Ho ho! On the other hand, *I* suspect *YOU* of being a Pagan tard, and thus worthy of all the scorn we can heap on your pointy little head. Chew on that, jackass.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 05:39:47 AM
Please to be refuting:
Nature based religions are better for keeping the planet alive than our current system of Christianity/Science/Capitalism.
The video was poorly made, poorly thought out, and poorly articulated with pictures that do not represent the entirety of the intended target (I would even argue goths to be a different subculture entirely).
Otherwise you're being just as worthless as the Tardo in the video itself.
Just sayin'
1 - Religion involves a dependency on superstitious reasoning to explain natural phenomena. If you want to save the natural world, you need to see it clearly.
2 - Brett Keane's purpose was to rant, fucktard, not to present a scientific study on why pagans suck horse assholes.
3 - D / N / T
Funny in what way you reject his statements, simply by taking phrases out and put them into different or absolute irrelevant context.
He refered the nature thing to the nature based pagans. you should read more carefully, cause hes definitly right in that point.
Sure its not all pagans, but he wasnt saying so.
The video was funny, but he refered to goths, wiccans and magicians whenever he said pagans, and that was his fucking mistakes, his limited christian view.
It was nothing more than a bad made hate video against above mentioned group, and evey1 not able to think enough for himself will agree. its wuite much the same than all the books like "men are from mars women from venus" all statements true, all statements shit if u take a close look.
video courtesy of Brett Keane. i just watched like 5 others by him. he's a pompous atheist with good intentions, who makes a few good points but mostly sounds ignorant and uneducated. probably would make a good case against christianity for most of America, considering that most of them sound ignorant and uneducated too, if he could drop the namecalling and profanity.
what he has to say about pagans is true of neopagans in the West, meaning the subculture of 'im not christian because my daddy is' ruled by teenagers and that creepy middle-aged guy who sits in the corner of every bar in small town america. mr. keane says most of them don't even know what they believe, and he's right, because they don't believe in anything except the 'pagan' image.
but i still don't like the sound clip because he sounds exactly like a former employer of mine, and it's a little creepy.
Quote from: Discord on December 23, 2006, 06:52:46 AM
The video was funny, but he refered to goths, wiccans and magicians whenever he said pagans, and that was his fucking mistakes, his limited christian view.
He isn't a Christian.
Other than that, GREAT point. Well, not really.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 23, 2006, 01:12:49 AM
Will somebody join me in a new trend i'm trying to start?
I want to start a new goth movement, but REAL goths. Basically we wear bear fur, get drunk, and raid villages (especially Roman villages). As opposed to todays fake goths we will not wear makeup, unless dirt and rage are considered makeup. Our jewelry will be pieces of our enemy, our tattoos will be battle scars.
Any takers? If not, next stop: Norse Worship.
I'm in.
Quote from: Jenne on December 23, 2006, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 23, 2006, 01:12:49 AM
Will somebody join me in a new trend i'm trying to start?
I want to start a new goth movement, but REAL goths. Basically we wear bear fur, get drunk, and raid villages (especially Roman villages). As opposed to todays fake goths we will not wear makeup, unless dirt and rage are considered makeup. Our jewelry will be pieces of our enemy, our tattoos will be battle scars.
Any takers? If not, next stop: Norse Worship.
I'm in.
Fuck that Norse worship bullshit.
That's how we got Wolfpoet.
He said, "If Not."
I'm his indemnity clause.
*bandwagonning or lose 2007*
Or, were you not talking bout what I said?
*scratches head*
I'm not a pagan, in any sense of the word. I am an agnostic, due to my opinion that nobody really knows The Truth. I have seen amazing synchronicities in my own life that have usually been accompanied by a particular frame of mind, but I don't "Cast Spells" or pretend to have all the answers like the Christians and Atheists. There seems to be more to life than what is found in any religious text or petri dish, so I try to keep an open mind. Heaping scorn on a person due to their being different is a totally expected response. Conform or Leave or Suffer. Makes me wanna giggle.
Goth =/= Pagan ~ Visual =/= Audio ~ Poorly made ~ My assertion = true
His purpose may have been to rant, but reacting in the Emotional/Territorial circuit to my disagreement in matters of opinion seems to be slightly childish.
As far as evidence for Nature based religions being better for the planet than the current system of Christianity/Science/Capitalism I offer the entire history of the human race until pollution started, which you might notice happened under the watch of the Church State and Corporate Leaders.
If you're looking for rolemodels of Anti-Christianity, I'd suggest going with the ever popular Richard Dawkins, or the slightly less well known Sam Harris. Though, even Sam talks about humans having a wide range of spiritual experiences.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 07:34:28 AM
If you're looking for rolemodels of Anti-Christianity, I'd suggest going with the ever popular Richard Dawkins, or the slightly less well known Sam Harris.  Though, even Sam talks about humans having a wide range of spiritual experiences. 
:lol:
What the FUCK are you jabbering about? I was enjoying a good rant, not looking for a guru.
:lol:
Hey, fuckstick...how about you try just replying to what is actually SAID, without trying to be an amateur psychologist, eh?
TGRR,
Is laughing at you, boy.
JUST KILL THEM ROGER
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 07:34:28 AM
As far as evidence for Nature based religions being better for the planet than the current system of Christianity/Science/Capitalism I offer the entire history of the human race until pollution started, which you might notice happened under the watch of the Church State and Corporate Leaders. 
Okay, you're a fucking idiot.
Pollution is a function of population.  Now, if these Pagans had the numbers we have today, and still burned wood for fuel, what shape do you think the planet would be in?
Christ on a pogo stick, dude...use your head for something besides a hat rack.
:lol:
Quote from: mian tiao noodle on December 23, 2006, 07:54:18 AM
JUST KILL THEM ROGER
NOT UNTIL YOU HAVE SUPREME EXECUTIVE POWER, FRED!
TGRR,
Doesn't "Fargo" people without a legal shield.
Makes a great visual, doesn't it?
If only whywiccanssuck.com still existed.  That was articulate and entertaining.
Quote from: Discord on December 23, 2006, 06:52:46 AM
Funny in what way you reject his statements, simply by taking phrases out and put them into different or absolute irrelevant context.
He refered the nature thing to the nature based pagans. you should read more carefully, cause hes definitly right in that point.
Sure its not all pagans, but he wasnt saying so.
The video was funny, but he refered to goths, wiccans and magicians whenever he said pagans, and that was his fucking mistakes, his limited christian view.
It was nothing more than a bad made hate video against above mentioned group, and evey1 not able to think enough for himself will agree. its wuite much the same than all the books like "men are from mars women from venus" all statements true, all statements shit if u take a close look.
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!
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DO YOU SPEAK IT!
Okay, the thing about atheist rolemodels was to something said by Vexaph0d. But it also goes with the whole, why are you listening to that asshat when there are SO many more intelligent people poking holes in the beliefs of others, thing.
Pollution is NOT a function of the amount of people, rather it is a function of the use of technology that pollutes that was invented by scientists and sold to people by their capitalist masters to make their lives "better" (although I fail to see how ruining the landbase for greed makes anyone's life better). Ten thousand years ago at the birth of "civilization" there were approximately ten million people living on the earth, yet there was no pollution. Civilization today is just the result of Totalitarian Agriculture and people realizing that they individually could live more comfortably if they took advantage of others.
Indigenous populations around the world take an animistic view of their existence, meaning, Tribes live in harmony with their environment which is their god/s. They also happen to work on average 2 to 4 hours a day each (compare that to how much time we lose out of our day doing stuff we hate for people we don't like, and all so we can afford to buy more shit that ruins the environment). Point being, it's simply greed and powerlust that got us into this whole mess, and in order to get us out it's going to take a change of perspective for the vast majority of the world from thinking Humanity has the God-Given Right to control its surroundings, to a reverence for the systems that allowed us to live here in the first place.
Bhode_Sativa,
is laughing right back Old Man
1. Pollution started with fire. Many people all over the world did and do start massive wildfires in order to exploit their environment.
2. Animistic does not mean in tune with nature. Hell, humans contributed to the extinction of megafauna at the end of the last ice age. Humans started doing agriculture because they ate their way into that hole and the "natural" (haw haw) environment couldn't handle the population pressure.
Learn some history then come back and try again.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 08:31:57 AM
Okay, the thing about atheist rolemodels was to something said by Vexaph0d.  But it also goes with the whole, why are you listening to that asshat when there are SO many more intelligent people poking holes in the beliefs of others, thing.
Because I felt like it. Slack works in mysterious ways, bobbie.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 08:31:57 AM
Pollution is NOT a function of the amount of people, rather it is a function of the use of technology that pollutes that was invented by scientists and sold to people by their capitalist masters to make their lives "better"
So you are suggesting that the logging and exhaust of wood-fueled fires for 6.5 billion people would not be harmful to the environment.
:lol:
Idiot.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 23, 2006, 08:38:20 AM
1.  Pollution started with fire.  Many people all over the world did and do start massive wildfires in order to exploit their environment.
2.  Animistic does not mean in tune with nature.  Hell, humans contributed to the extinction of megafauna at the end of the last ice age.  Humans started doing agriculture because they ate their way into that hole and the "natural" (haw haw) environment couldn't handle the population pressure. 
Learn some history then come back and try again.
You just stomped on the fluffy bunny.
See how you are?
Also, hunter/gatherer work, while perhaps less time consuming, was still very intense.  It's a hard lifestyle fraught with physical danger and psychological stress.  Nobody was wandering around picking fruit off trees; they were either on their knees doing something repetetive and difficult or walking around with all their possessions on their backs.  If you were lucky enough to survive past 40, you suffered from arthritis and the agony of exposed nerves as your teeth wore away to nothing.  Not to mention the pain of having half your children die, and wondering if maybe this year everyone is going to starve to death, or maybe somebody will find some grass seeds the mice haven't gotten to yet.
Greed, while technically bad, actually promotes survival.  When you're continually on the edge, taking what's yours may mean the difference between life and death.  You might even direct some of your hatred of human nature toward, well, nature, since or extistence in said environment for millions of years has definitely set up some interesting instinctual mentalities.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2006, 08:46:27 AM
You just stomped on the fluffy bunny.
See how you are?
I just don't like fuzzy thinking.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 23, 2006, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2006, 08:46:27 AM
You just stomped on the fluffy bunny.
See how you are?
I just don't like fuzzy thinking.
Well, at least wipe the blood and gore off of your mouth.
Edit: You proved the fread's title true, at Boddy's expense.
:lol:
I thought he said he wasn't pagan?
Not that it matters, he's still just as misguided.
I'm going to go take a nice hot shower, something provided to me by the evils of technology and the greeds of modern civilization.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 23, 2006, 08:57:12 AM
I thought he said he wasn't pagan?
Not that it matters, he's still just as misguided.
I'm going to go take a nice hot shower, something provided to me by the evils of technology and the greeds of modern civilization.
Meh...one mushy-headed freak = another.
And you just go ahead and RUIN TEH PLANET, MISSY! SEE IF WE CARE!
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I'd just like to take a moment to express my disapproval of previous responses in this thread. I prefer the cold hard smackdown of logic instead of steaming piles of personal attacks.
Could just be me though.
There were many tribes that used various forms of agriculture, but it's only when they pursued a policy of eradicating the competition that it took off. Homo Sapiens have been around in modern form for the last two hundred thousand years, and in other forms for two to three million before that, yet why is it that only in the last three hundred years that we've done more damage than the Planet could fix? Because of the greed and powerlust of Corporate Masters.
Animism is ascribing a Sacredness or Deity to everything, but it results in a certain respect for that which gives life. Reference Indians thanking the spirit of the deer that allowed itself to be killed for the good of the tribe VS not giving a shit about the spirit of the Big Mac cause it makes you fat and lazy.
I can guarantee that even if there were 6.5 billion people living on the planet in tribes they would not pollute as much as we are right now, due to lack of automobiles, power plants, chemical dumping, and a billion other sources that they wouldn't use. In addition, on an alternate course of history where we all lived in tribes, population growth would never have reached today's levels, due to it's unsustainability. See the small percentages of those organisms at the top of their food chain, like Lions, Tigers, Sharks, Eagles, and so on.
Are you guys really saying that the current system, the Machinetm is the way things should be?
I'd rather live a short life that had fulfillment in it than work like a slave to the Corporate Masters for a reward that doesn't mean squat.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 23, 2006, 09:04:01 AM
I'd just like to take a moment to express my disapproval of previous responses in this thread. I prefer the cold hard smackdown of logic instead of steaming piles of personal attacks.
Could just be me though.
I can agree with that.
Ohhh....hell no.  
I fucking take it back.
Bhode, you are one incredibly STUPID son of a bitch.  
:argh!:
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 23, 2006, 09:04:01 AM
I'd just like to take a moment to express my disapproval of previous responses in this thread.  I prefer the cold hard smackdown of logic instead of steaming piles of personal attacks. 
Could just be me though.
I'm just venting some hate.  I have some extra this week.
TGRR,
The J.R. Ewing of PD.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:05:20 AM
Are you guys really saying that the current system, the Machinetm is the way things should be?
I'd rather live a short life that had fulfillment in it than work like a slave to the Corporate Masters for a reward that doesn't mean squat.
1. No, we're saying your bullshit ideal of the way things were
never happened.2. The reward of constant borderline starvation? Of dying of an abcessed tooth?
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 23, 2006, 09:06:55 AM
Ohhh....hell no.  
I fucking take it back.
Bhode, you are one incredibly STUPID son of a bitch.  
:argh!:
Thought you might.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 23, 2006, 09:04:01 AM
I'd just like to take a moment to express my disapproval of previous responses in this thread.  I prefer the cold hard smackdown of logic instead of steaming piles of personal attacks. 
Could just be me though.
I can agree with that.
Meh. You lose, either way.
at least this way I learn something, instead of venting my bile in a stream of "Nuh uh, YOU'RE the Poopy Head!"
Hey Bhode, ever hear about the Neanderthals?  You know, they lived in tribes and (probably) worshipped nature.  You know how they died out?  They were killed/driven out/outbred by our tribal, nature worshipping ancestors.
Hey Bhode, ever hear about the Iroquois?  You know, those tribal, nature-worshipping Indians who lived in what is now New York.  Yeah, they regularly practiced torture, genocide, and cannibalism. They liked to chop off the fingers of their enemies and watch them try not to bleed to death.
Hey Bhode, ever hear about the Aztecs?  They worshipped the earth and the sun.  They originally came from up north.  They were a tribe that wandered down into the Mexican Basin, and eventually established an empire that ran on ritual sacrifice and cannibalism.  The only way you could get promoted was by capturing enemies and giving them to the priests to sacrifice.
Do I need to go on?
HEY! EVER HEARD OF THE KWAKIUTL - THEY OWNED SLAVES.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:11:33 AM
at least this way I learn something, instead of venting my bile in a stream of "Nuh uh, YOU'RE the Poopy Head!"
You obviously haven't learned a fucking thing, dumbass.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:11:33 AM
at least this way I learn something, instead of venting my bile in a stream of "Nuh uh, YOU'RE the Poopy Head!"
There are two responses to ignorant bullshit such as that posted by you in this thread.
RBG would set you straight, because ignorance offends her.
I make fun of you, because ignorance amuses me.
Simple, really.
The Iroquois were given smallpox blankets, and the rest of the Indians were damn near decimated too, on Huge scales, after being lied to and raped by God Fearin Whitey.
The Aztec were also the victims of biological warfare, and coincidentally enough, also wiped out after being raped by God Fearin Whitey.
Show me how wanting to be able to live on the surface of this planet five hundred years from now is a bad thing? Then show me how it will be possible under our current circumstances. Right now I don't think it's possible. Something's gotta change. Maybe it's my opinions, but I'm open to that. 'S why I'm here.
I was itching for an argument, and my family is too stupid to see where I'm wrong, so I get what I want too. Simple, really.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
The Iroquois were given smallpox blankets, and the rest of the Indians were damn near decimated too, on Huge scales, after being lied to and raped by God Fearin Whitey.
The Aztec were also the victims of biological warfare, and coincidentally enough, also wiped out after being raped by God Fearin Whitey. 
Are you suggesting that what happened to them when the White man showed up excuses what they did BEFORE the White man showed up?
Oh, and if anyone ever had it coming, it was the Aztecs (more properly, the Mexica in general). They were a stagnant, horrible society, and didn't get half the kicking around they deserved...sorry if that doesn't agree with your hippie view of the world, but the truth rarely will.
Maybe you should get over your White Guilt Complex.  God Fearin Whiteys were doing what humans have been doing for millions of years:  kill, rape, and grab what you can.   They just happened to have some advantages, like living in other animals filth for a few thousand years, and metallurgy.  Face it, humans have been killing each other for millions of years and they're not going to stop now.
Life is no worse than it has ever been.  In some ways it's a lot better.  Five hundred years ago I would already have married some jackass and popped out a few kids, and if I survived that I'd be freezing my ass off in some shithole trying to grub up some form or nourishment.  
Competition is built-in in all life forms, especially humans.  When generation after generation lives on the edge of starvation, damn right some nasty subconscious tendencies are going to come to the forefront.  
Quote from: Netaungrot on December 22, 2006, 11:05:01 PM
Well, that's all I need to understand that you're a superstitious pothead.
You're exactly the kind of idiot our inarticulate friend is talking about. Do yourself a favor hippie, KY&FTB.
"He started it!"
Also, reference my rebuttal of the assertion that I'm a hippie.
Also, what's wrong with wanting to keep from killing the planet? Science is such a big deal, what about the scientists who talk about Global Warming, and Coastal Flooding and the death of so many large fish, and the consequences of pumping massive amounts of chemicals into the air and water, and burying so much garbage? Isn't our environmental impact measurable enough?
Haha, you think you can get people to give a shit. :lol:
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:34:30 AM
Quote from: Netaungrot on December 22, 2006, 11:05:01 PM
Well, that's all I need to understand that you're a superstitious pothead.
You're exactly the kind of idiot our inarticulate friend is talking about.  Do yourself a favor hippie, KY&FTB.
"He started it!"
Also, reference my rebuttal of the assertion that I'm a hippie.
Also, what's wrong with wanting to keep from killing the planet?  Science is such a big deal, what about the scientists who talk about Global Warming, and Coastal Flooding and the death of so many large fish, and the consequences of pumping massive amounts of chemicals into the air and water, and burying so much garbage?  Isn't our environmental impact measurable enough?
Would it be more, or less, without current technology?
And, come to think of it, why haven't you offed yourself to do your part to save the planet?
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:34:30 AM
Quote from: Netaungrot on December 22, 2006, 11:05:01 PM
Well, that's all I need to understand that you're a superstitious pothead.
You're exactly the kind of idiot our inarticulate friend is talking about.  Do yourself a favor hippie, KY&FTB.
"He started it!"
Also, reference my rebuttal of the assertion that I'm a hippie.
Also, what's wrong with wanting to keep from killing the planet?  Science is such a big deal, what about the scientists who talk about Global Warming, and Coastal Flooding and the death of so many large fish, and the consequences of pumping massive amounts of chemicals into the air and water, and burying so much garbage?  Isn't our environmental impact measurable enough?
NO.  WE NEED TO MINE THE MOTHERFUCKIN MOON WITH YOUR FACE AS THE DRILL.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2006, 09:39:12 AM
Would it be more, or less, without current technology.
And, come to think of it, why haven't you offed yourself to do your part to save the planet?
http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/ <---go here for help.
Quote from: Netaungrot on December 23, 2006, 08:59:48 AM
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is that clip on youtube? if so can you link me I need to find it real bad.
From Neutangrot: "I'm not trying to force you to do shit, genius.
With your superior dopey-enlightened logic I'm sure you'll valiantly take a bullet for every last spineless subculture, whether they've got a wish candle shoved up their ass or are fucking in smegma crusted fursuits.
You truly are the people's hero."
From TGRR: "3. Ho ho! On the other hand, *I* suspect *YOU* of being a Pagan tard, and thus worthy of all the scorn we can heap on your pointy little head. Chew on that, jackass.
Hey, fuckstick...how about you try just replying to what is actually SAID, without trying to be an amateur psychologist, eh?"
I think the only personal attack I gave was calling TGRR "old man" in response to his use of the term "boy" towards me.
Yeah, getting personal without logic don't make much sense.
Also, it don't much matter if I can get people to give a shit, cause they'll have to eventually, it just might be too late, but then I'll be the one laughing.
I haven't killed myself yet as a favor to my family. I tried broaching the subject but they got all offended, like I'd be doing it just to piss them off, when in reality, it'd be cause it makes the most sense. It was sort of funny when I reassured my mother that I'm not depressed, cause that was the only reason she could think of for being suicidal. :lulz:
Quote from: SillyCybin on December 23, 2006, 09:47:58 AM
Quote from: Netaungrot on December 23, 2006, 08:59:48 AM
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is that clip on youtube? if so can you link me I need to find it real bad.
No, it's an OLD 4Chan joke.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:48:59 AM
From Neutangrot:  "I'm not trying to force you to do shit, genius.
With your superior dopey-enlightened logic I'm sure you'll valiantly take a bullet for every last spineless subculture, whether they've got a wish candle shoved up their ass or are fucking in smegma crusted fursuits.
You truly are the people's hero."
From TGRR:  "3.  Ho ho!  On the other hand, *I* suspect *YOU* of being a Pagan tard, and thus worthy of all the scorn we can heap on your pointy little head.  Chew on that, jackass.
Hey, fuckstick...how about you try just replying to what is actually SAID, without trying to be an amateur psychologist, eh?"
I think the only personal attack I gave was calling TGRR "old man" in response to his use of the term "boy" towards me. 
Yeah, getting personal without logic don't make much sense. 
Also, it don't much matter if I can get people to give a shit, cause they'll have to eventually, it just might be too late, but then I'll be the one laughing.
I haven't killed myself yet as a favor to my family.  I tried broaching the subject but they got all offended, like I'd be doing it just to piss them off, when in reality, it'd be cause it makes the most sense.  It was sort of funny when I reassured my mother that I'm not depressed, cause that was the only reason she could think of for being suicidal.   :lulz:
Use quote tags, "fuckstick". Also, nobody gives a shit about your family rebellion angst issues.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:48:59 AM
Also, it don't much matter if I can get people to give a shit, cause they'll have to eventually, it just might be too late, but then I'll be the one laughing.
I haven't killed myself yet as a favor to my family.  I tried broaching the subject but they got all offended, like I'd be doing it just to piss them off, when in reality, it'd be cause it makes the most sense.  It was sort of funny when I reassured my mother that I'm not depressed, cause that was the only reason she could think of for being suicidal.   :lulz:
1.  No, you'll be drowning in shit with the rest of us.  Sorry.
2.  You have to do what's best for YOU, man.  
(http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Jonestown.jpg)
Just do it.
TGRR,
Nike Spokesperson and personal counsellor.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2006, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
The Iroquois were given smallpox blankets, and the rest of the Indians were damn near decimated too, on Huge scales, after being lied to and raped by God Fearin Whitey.
The Aztec were also the victims of biological warfare, and coincidentally enough, also wiped out after being raped by God Fearin Whitey.
Are you suggesting that what happened to them when the White man showed up excuses what they did BEFORE the White man showed up?
Oh, and if anyone ever had it coming, it was the Aztecs (more properly, the Mexica in general). They were a stagnant, horrible society, and didn't get half the kicking around they deserved...sorry if that doesn't agree with your hippie view of the world, but the truth rarely will.
Whereas the conquistadors turned up at a fight, covered in plate metal and chainmail, equipped with canons, guns and cavalry, the aztecs turned up in dayglow pyjamas and silly hats, waving sticks. The law of nature is survival of the fittest. Go figure.
(Sorry but I been playing a lot of medieval 2 lately and those native american fucks really piss me off)
Quote from: SillyCybin on December 23, 2006, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2006, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
The Iroquois were given smallpox blankets, and the rest of the Indians were damn near decimated too, on Huge scales, after being lied to and raped by God Fearin Whitey.
The Aztec were also the victims of biological warfare, and coincidentally enough, also wiped out after being raped by God Fearin Whitey. 
Are you suggesting that what happened to them when the White man showed up excuses what they did BEFORE the White man showed up?
Oh, and if anyone ever had it coming, it was the Aztecs (more properly, the Mexica in general).  They were a stagnant, horrible society, and didn't get half the kicking around they deserved...sorry if that doesn't agree with your hippie view of the world, but the truth rarely will.
Whereas the conquistadors turned up at a fight, covered in plate metal and chainmail, equipped with canons, guns and cavalry, the aztecs turned up in dayglow pyjamas and silly hats, waving sticks. The law of nature is survival of the fittest. Go figure.
(Sorry but I been playing a lot of medieval 2 lately and those native american fucks really piss me off)
Actually, the Mexica weapons were MORE effective than the Spaniard's weapons.
Cortez won by playing "let's you and him fight" between the various Mexica tribes.
speaking of what's right for me... Sleep seems pretty good right now. g'nite.
Coward.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2006, 09:57:20 AM
Quote from: SillyCybin on December 23, 2006, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 23, 2006, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 23, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
The Iroquois were given smallpox blankets, and the rest of the Indians were damn near decimated too, on Huge scales, after being lied to and raped by God Fearin Whitey.
The Aztec were also the victims of biological warfare, and coincidentally enough, also wiped out after being raped by God Fearin Whitey.
Are you suggesting that what happened to them when the White man showed up excuses what they did BEFORE the White man showed up?
Oh, and if anyone ever had it coming, it was the Aztecs (more properly, the Mexica in general). They were a stagnant, horrible society, and didn't get half the kicking around they deserved...sorry if that doesn't agree with your hippie view of the world, but the truth rarely will.
Whereas the conquistadors turned up at a fight, covered in plate metal and chainmail, equipped with canons, guns and cavalry, the aztecs turned up in dayglow pyjamas and silly hats, waving sticks. The law of nature is survival of the fittest. Go figure.
(Sorry but I been playing a lot of medieval 2 lately and those native american fucks really piss me off)
Actually, the Mexica weapons were MORE effective than the Spaniard's weapons.
Cortez won by playing "let's you and him fight" between the various Mexica tribes.
Aha! So you're saying I should use diplomacy to pwn these batsards. Cheer's Rog, sound gaming tips ITT
Well there's also the whole Mexica mindset of "maim horribly so we can kill em later" vs the Conquistadore mindset of "SHOOT EM IN THE HEAD! SHOOT EM IN THE HEAD!!!!"
Komodo Dragon hunting tactics FTW!
Found it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ns1j97ZgVI
Quote from: SillyCybin on December 23, 2006, 09:56:00 AM
(Sorry but I been playing a lot of medieval 2 lately and those native american fucks really piss me off)
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=135
reverse Aztec invasion
:-)
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Jonestown FTW
I would like to be able to think of that as a tragedy, I simply cant, mass suicide cults are the most stupid funny things ever.
got to love the mob mentality.
I can think of it as a tragedy for the ones who were shot, or forced to kill themselves (ie. the children)
nope, still not even a twitch in me. I was not always this cynical, what happened.
If only all religions would adopt this commendable ritual the world would be a much saner place. Suicide cults FTW!
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What struck me was the excellent use of a telephoto lens.¬† See that flattening effect on everything,Äîthat's what long focal lengths tend to do.¬†
Makes me think of Bruegel.  Beautiful stuff.
Compare:
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Quote from: faust on December 23, 2006, 04:33:34 PM
nope, still not even a twitch in me. I was not always this cynical, what happened.
youll get it back eventually
Jesus I missed alot in one night.
Hey Bhode are you white? If so do you hate yourself for being white? The only reason Aztecs didn't pollute was because they didn't know how. If they had been the dominant culture, and figured out industrial technology, they would've done the same thing.
All that praying to Hekate isn't helping. It reminds me of an MTV commercial I accidentally saw. They want ME to end MY dependance on oil. Oh, so it's all on me now, eh? I'm so sorry for ruining YOUR planet, P. Diddy.
I hate those fucking pagans, but only the moral elitest assholes who say i'm destroying their planet before they DRIVE two blocks to buy a 5 dollar pack of cigarrettes from the machine.
As a Goth the only things I pollute with are vomit, horse shit, and dead bodies.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 23, 2006, 07:46:33 PM
Jesus I missed alot in one night.
Hey Bhode are you white? If so do you hate yourself for being white? The only reason Aztecs didn't pollute was because they didn't know how. If they had been the dominant culture, and figured out industrial technology, they would've done the same thing.
All that praying to Hekate isn't helping. It reminds me of an MTV commercial I accidentally saw. They want ME to end MY dependance on oil. Oh, so it's all on me now, eh? I'm so sorry for ruining YOUR planet, P. Diddy.
I hate those fucking pagans, but only the moral elitest assholes who say i'm destroying their planet before they DRIVE two blocks to buy a 5 dollar pack of cigarrettes from the machine.
As a Goth the only things I pollute with are vomit, horse shit, and dead bodies.
The Aztecs did a ROYAL job on their environment in other ways.
Deforestation and shitty farming techniques FTL.
Thank you.
Innocence is very rare. Can anyone think of a truely innocent culture anywhere in history? I doubt it. Everyone is guilty of something.
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@ bhode
As far as I've seen you shouldnt worry bout the personal insults, seems to be quite usual round this board, just wonder when i do get mine ;) Think it will be with 200 Post? Since especially good old Roger judges ppl by Counting their posts.
There no innocence right, but i think the point bhode tried to make is: Care for ur fucking planet or we'll all die.
Quote from: Discord on December 26, 2006, 11:28:06 PM
Since especially good old Roger judges ppl by Counting their posts.
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
Quote from: Discord on December 26, 2006, 11:28:06 PM
There no innocence right, but i think the point bhode tried to make is: Care for ur fucking planet or we'll all die.
No, the point he elaborated on is that 11 out of 12 people worldwide should die so he can frolic in the woods.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 26, 2006, 11:45:09 PM
Quote from: Discord on December 26, 2006, 11:28:06 PM
Since especially good old Roger judges ppl by Counting their posts.
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
Whoopsie. He ran off.
Looks like "Discord" is just a drive-by artist.
Well got life, i dont spend all my time here on the board ;)
1. No you and the others KNOW what his fuking point was, you guys just started to change the topic (He was talking bout world pollution, and someone started talking bout aztecs killing ppl...) And thats the point where you guys started a "discussion" and than the personal insults. Its not the first time ive seen that procedure here. Many of you guys seem to Love conflicts, maybe its gets u feel better, what do i know.
2. And that seems to be the connectino to the post count. never seen any1 here fucking off ppl with higher post counts, only the "noobs". "What shit r you talking bou? O he has only 60 Posts ..."
Think it over u'll see im right.
Quote from: Discord on December 27, 2006, 10:29:40 AM
Well got life, i dont spend all my time here on the board ;)
1. No you and the others KNOW what his fuking point was, you guys just started to change the topic (He was talking bout world pollution, and someone started talking bout aztecs killing ppl...) And thats the point where you guys started a "discussion" and than the personal insults. Its not the first time ive seen that procedure here. Many of you guys seem to Love conflicts, maybe its gets u feel better, what do i know.
2. And that seems to be the connectino to the post count. never seen any1 here fucking off ppl with higher post counts, only the "noobs". "What shit r you talking bou? O he has only 60 Posts ..."
Think it over u'll see im right.
1. You're missing the same points BS did, if not more. Re-read the thread Ms. flippy-dippy and work on that reading comprehension.
2. You think this has anything to do with post count? :lol: Take some large doses of STFU until you understand the 50 post policy and call us in a week. Thank you.
Puppy, please remember that the personal attacks came after Bhode couldn't come up with his own tagline and stole TGRR's. TGRR is a merciless bastard. Like the Aztecs.
Everyone else gets his point but attacks it because it is stupid as fuck.
Also, I thought the 50 post rule was n00b training wheels, not hazing.
Quote from: Discord on December 27, 2006, 10:29:40 AM
2. And that seems to be the connectino to the post count. never seen any1 here fucking off ppl with higher post counts, only the "noobs". "What shit r you talking bou? O he has only 60 Posts ..."
Think it over u'll see im right.
Nope. You're talking out of your ass.
1. I have not given Hangero shit, and he's brand new.
2. I have given Horab tons of shit, and he's been here damn near as long as I have.
3. Post link to me saying some shit like "What shit r you talking bou? O he has only 60 Posts ..." Thanks. Jackass.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 27, 2006, 11:22:47 PM
Puppy, please remember that the personal attacks came after Bhode couldn't come up with his own tagline and stole TGRR's. TGRR is a merciless bastard. Like the Aztecs.
I even have feathers jammed up my ass.
Quote from: Discord on December 27, 2006, 10:29:40 AM
Well got life, i dont spend all my time here on the board ;)
1. No you and the others KNOW what his fuking point was, you guys just started to change the topic (He was talking bout world pollution, and someone started talking bout aztecs killing ppl...) And thats the point where you guys started a "discussion" and than the personal insults. Its not the first time ive seen that procedure here. Many of you guys seem to Love conflicts, maybe its gets u feel better, what do i know.
2. And that seems to be the connectino to the post count. never seen any1 here fucking off ppl with higher post counts, only the "noobs". "What shit r you talking bou? O he has only 60 Posts ..."
Think it over u'll see im right.
Maybe you should just learn to type, moron.
Rog you didn't give Hangero shit because he types interesting, relevent, thought provoking shit. That's not being fair to the people that talk out of their ass.
You're suck a dick.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 28, 2006, 08:04:43 AM
Rog you didn't give Hangero shit because he types interesting, relevent, thought provoking shit. That's not being fair to the people that talk out of their ass.
You're suck a dick.
All your suck are belong to us.
Discord, on the other hand, is a bullshitter...and not the good kind.
Nuff said...it's far more fun to poke Bhode with a stick.
omg rev u r a bullshitter!
It kind of hurt my soul to type like that.
Quote from: Rabid Badger of God on December 28, 2006, 08:14:35 AM
It kind of hurt my soul to type like that.
I know. Your little Loaf O' "Bob" started crying tears of blood, for a moment.
Wow.
This thread SUCKS.
Two things I would like to add:
1. Rome polluted long before it became Christian. The late Republic in particular was an awful time for the environment.
2. More social progress has come about since the Enlightenment then in the prevoius 3000 years of superstitious bullshit that preceeded it. Magic is a cop out for the masses so they can play with candles and chalk instead of learning what critical infrastructure needs to be seized in an armed revolt and how exactly best to reduce the tyrannies of power.
Holy fuck, I'm glad Cain is back.
Yeah, me too.
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:mittens:
Quote from: Cain on December 28, 2006, 11:49:33 AM
Wow.
This thread SUCKS.
Two things I would like to add:
1. Rome polluted long before it became Christian.  The late Republic in particular was an awful time for the environment.
2. More social progress has come about since the Enlightenment then in the prevoius 3000 years of superstitious bullshit that preceeded it.  Magic is a cop out for the masses so they can play with candles and chalk instead of learning what critical infrastructure needs to be seized in an armed revolt and how exactly best to reduce the tyrannies of power.
1. Cain, can you help us think of a group of people that weren't dirty bastards?
2. Fucking sweet. I second LMNO's sentiment.
The Egytians were big on hygiene, as I recall. Shaved all over and washed quite often for ancient people. But then they made some fucking huge gravel pits.
didn't the ancient gauls help invent soup?
"invent"? Its hardly difficult.
"Oops I dropped a carrot in a bowl of water... wait a tic..."
Reminds me of roasting stuff on a fire. I always figured that was a case of Ug accidentally setting fire to his leg - "Hmmmmm Ug your leg smells yummy..."
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 23, 2006, 01:12:49 AM
Will somebody join me in a new trend i'm trying to start?
I want to start a new goth movement, but REAL goths. Basically we wear bear fur, get drunk, and raid villages (especially Roman villages). As opposed to todays fake goths we will not wear makeup, unless dirt and rage are considered makeup. Our jewelry will be pieces of our enemy, our tattoos will be battle scars.
Any takers? If not, next stop: Norse Worship.
I'm in... Can we get stoned when we're not drunk and raiding the holy roman empire?
~Angel
:mrgreen:
We haven't discovered weed yet (as far as I know). Rage is our drug.
Rage is a much better endorphin flush.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 31, 2006, 02:10:48 PM
We haven't discovered weed yet (as far as I know). Rage is our drug.
Rage > Pot, in ANY time period.
If we want to do a better analysis lets have a mock battle that never happen in history. Hippies v. Mongolians Hordes.
3 Khan era mongolian warriors could easily destroy over 200 hippies. A platoon sized element of mongols could overtake at least 2 Woodstock sized battallions of hippies.
you selling tickets to your hippie slaughter?
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 31, 2006, 10:05:16 PM
If we want to do a better analysis lets have a mock battle that never happen in history. Hippies v. Mongolians Hordes.
3 Khan era mongolian warriors could easily destroy over 200 hippies. A platoon sized element of mongols could overtake at least 2 Woodstock sized battallions of hippies.
That has to be the only time I've ever see the words 'hippies' and 'battalions' used together like that. Suggest sending half a platoon. The whole platoon probably
wont find enough enjoyment in 2 woodstocks.
*edited with a greater degree of sobriety. I think this is what I actually meant, although I have no feasible way of remembering.
You're on one side or the other. Those not wearing blood soaked fur and killing like a madman will be considered a hippie.
So our ratio then will be about 2 squads per Woodstock?
As long as I get one of those cool Mongol uber fuzzy fur hats with the point on top, I'm in.
Rage will just have to do i suppose. I like this idea of bloody warfare against the hippies. Though if we're charging in on mounts, I'd much prefer a large, smelly, ill-tempered buffalo or some such. It works on a few levels, the hippies will see the "Endangered" buffalo and be too concerned with trying to protect it's rights as an endangered animal to flee for their lives or fight back...
~Angel
I used to date the tub girl...
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 31, 2006, 10:13:07 PM
You're on one side or the other. Those not wearing blood soaked fur and killing like a madman will be considered a hippie.
So our ratio then will be about 2 squads per Woodstock?
See above. Suggest 1 squad per 2 woodstocks. Otherwise squads will become bored and start killing each other. That's piss poor military husbandry right there.
Quote from: Cain on December 28, 2006, 01:21:30 PM
The Egytians were big on hygiene, as I recall. Shaved all over and washed quite often for ancient people. But then they made some fucking huge gravel pits.
Wu-Tang Killer Bees
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The Furies gotta love them
wild nights drunk on wine screaming blood knives rusted but gleaming
do you hear that
deep in the bowls of the woods howling
oh lust my lust
pan god of panic
all becoming
god of unbecoming
damn soiled myself again
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Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 05:08:28 AM
The Furies gotta love them
wild nights drunk on wine screaming blood knives rusted but gleaming
do you hear that
deep in the bowls of the woods howling
oh lust my lust
pan god of panic
all becoming
god of unbecoming
damn soiled myself again
[/b][/glow]
HTML FAIL.
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fuck pagans are idiots
I like pagans as long as they stay off their high horse/broomstick. The ones I know are pretty cool.
I have met some really cool pagans who live on caravans and spend their daze slacking with the best of them. I have also met those who read books and act like their jesus or something. And i have met a whole bunch in between those two types, many of them hep cats.
:bacon:
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
shit you hear them too
:bacon:
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
shit you hear them too
Yeah, they mostly just make tiny little screeching noises for me, but I've heard that for some people they sing.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:17:01 AM
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
shit you hear them too
Yeah, they mostly just make tiny little screeching noises for me, but I've heard that for some people they sing.
Why must you encourage the pinealists?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:17:50 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:17:01 AM
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
are cabbages immune?
shit you hear them too
Yeah, they mostly just make tiny little screeching noises for me, but I've heard that for some people they sing.
Why must you encourage the pinealists?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:17:50 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:17:01 AM
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
shit you hear them too
Yeah, they mostly just make tiny little screeching noises for me, but I've heard that for some people they sing.
Why must you encourage the pinealists?
Even the giant sequoia was once a tiny acorn.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:21:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:17:50 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:17:01 AM
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
shit you hear them too
Yeah, they mostly just make tiny little screeching noises for me, but I've heard that for some people they sing.
Why must you encourage the pinealists?
Even the giant sequoia was once a tiny acorn.
Nenslo's Lobster Theory: For every lobster that becomes famous as a city-eating monster, 1000+ go in the dinner pot.
This jackass isn't going to be in the former category, I think.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:24:27 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:21:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:17:50 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:17:01 AM
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
shit you hear them too
Yeah, they mostly just make tiny little screeching noises for me, but I've heard that for some people they sing.
Why must you encourage the pinealists?
Even the giant sequoia was once a tiny acorn.
Nenslo's Lobster Theory: For every lobster that becomes famous as a city-eating monster, 1000+ go in the dinner pot.
This jackass isn't going to be in the former category, I think.
HEy man Jerry aint a jackass
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:33:34 AM
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
why would he self deprecate such, im sure the Rev. is an upstanding gentleman, but i can understand sometimes i get down on myself too.
hey rev: buck up, your all right i like you no matter what the others say
bacon
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:28:29 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:24:27 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:21:00 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:17:50 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:17:01 AM
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:06:59 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
It's all delusion. Some people believe in a giant invisible fairy that lives in the sky, some believe in chanting magic spells and burning shit. Some people believe in "love" or "hate".
The really real reality is that it's all just a bunch of tiny robots in your brain trying to get you to do stuff for them.
Just pick a delusion that works for you and go with it.
shit you hear them too
Yeah, they mostly just make tiny little screeching noises for me, but I've heard that for some people they sing.
Why must you encourage the pinealists?
Even the giant sequoia was once a tiny acorn.
Nenslo's Lobster Theory: For every lobster that becomes famous as a city-eating monster, 1000+ go in the dinner pot.
This jackass isn't going to be in the former category, I think.
HEy man Jerry aint a jackass
:bacon:
Quote from: Novatore on May 03, 2009, 06:35:29 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:33:34 AM
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
why would he self deprecate such, im sure the Rev. is an upstanding gentleman, but i can understand sometimes i get down on myself too.
hey rev: buck up, your all right i like you no matter what the others say
:bacon:
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:33:34 AM
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
Like I said, Jer...why must you encourage the pinealists?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:39:43 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:33:34 AM
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
Like I said, Jer...why must you encourage the pinealists?
17 more to go.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:43:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:39:43 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:33:34 AM
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
Like I said, Jer...why must you encourage the pinealists?
17 more to go.
I'm not bothering with the 50 post rule for this idiot. He's a fucking PARODY of the AKK effect. I am not required, nor am I inclined, to put up with it. I'm shitting on him NOW, to beat the fucking rush.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:45:51 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:43:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:39:43 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:33:34 AM
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
Like I said, Jer...why must you encourage the pinealists?
17 more to go.
I'm not bothering with the 50 post rule for this idiot. He's a fucking PARODY of the AKK effect. I am not required, nor am I inclined, to put up with it. I'm shitting on him NOW, to beat the fucking rush.
Fair enough. Do it to it.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:59:31 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:45:51 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:43:56 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:39:43 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:33:34 AM
While it's true that I flunked out of jackass academy, I think he meant you.
Like I said, Jer...why must you encourage the pinealists?
17 more to go.
I'm not bothering with the 50 post rule for this idiot. He's a fucking PARODY of the AKK effect. I am not required, nor am I inclined, to put up with it. I'm shitting on him NOW, to beat the fucking rush.
Fair enough. Do it to it.
I swear to God, every time one of these jackasses shows up trying to "wow" us all, it's like someone turns on a Britney Spears video that never fucking ends.
(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7050/baconbandages.jpg) (http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baconbandages.jpg)
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:21:00 AM
Even the giant sequoia was once a tiny acorn.
Please be an original troll. I posted that in Quotes of the Moment in late March.
Quote from: Laughtrack on May 03, 2009, 07:12:09 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:21:00 AM
Even the giant sequoia was once a tiny acorn.
Please be an original troll. I posted that in Quotes of the Moment in late March.
Yeah, you made that up. :boring:
Quote from: Laughtrack on May 03, 2009, 07:12:09 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on May 03, 2009, 06:21:00 AM
Even the giant sequoia was once a tiny acorn.
Please be an original troll. I posted that in Quotes of the Moment in late March.
Haven't you heard? Everything's been done already.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 23, 2006, 01:12:49 AM
Will somebody join me in a new trend i'm trying to start?
I want to start a new goth movement, but REAL goths. Basically we wear bear fur, get drunk, and raid villages (especially Roman villages). As opposed to todays fake goths we will not wear makeup, unless dirt and rage are considered makeup. Our jewelry will be pieces of our enemy, our tattoos will be battle scars.
Any takers? If not, next stop: Norse Worship.
Is it too late to sign up?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 24, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 23, 2006, 01:12:49 AM
Will somebody join me in a new trend i'm trying to start?
I want to start a new goth movement, but REAL goths. Basically we wear bear fur, get drunk, and raid villages (especially Roman villages). As opposed to todays fake goths we will not wear makeup, unless dirt and rage are considered makeup. Our jewelry will be pieces of our enemy, our tattoos will be battle scars.
Any takers? If not, next stop: Norse Worship.
Is it too late to sign up?
I'm picturing how funny that would be for a bunch of Neo-Gothic Tribesmen would be walking into a Goth club.
I just got into an argument with a friend of mine about paganism. I was trying to tell her that the term "pagan" is a blanket term that reffers to many different things, and she got ALL bent out of shape and pulled out some witchcraft book for definitions :lulz: while I used a dictionary. I was also trying to tell her that Wiccan is waaaaaay newer than she thought. All wiccans beleive that they're part of some ancient sect or something, when the fact of the matter is that it's only a few years older than our very own Dis-cord-i-a. This bent her even more out of shape, I couldn't even recognize her anymore :lulz:
Earth worship. What a silly thing. Go dig a hole and live in it if you like dirt so much...
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 24, 2010, 08:16:12 PM
Earth worship. What a silly thing. Go dig a hole and live in it if you like dirt so much...
Why, when you can have a perfectly good shit-hut and astral-fi?
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 24, 2010, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 24, 2010, 08:16:12 PM
Earth worship. What a silly thing. Go dig a hole and live in it if you like dirt so much...
Why, when you can have a perfectly good shit-hut and astral-fi?
I didn't want to laugh at this, as I hate you. But I'll admit, I lol'd...
Quote from: Cuddlefish on August 24, 2010, 08:16:12 PM
I just got into an argument with a friend of mine about paganism. I was trying to tell her that the term "pagan" is a blanket term that reffers to many different things, and she got ALL bent out of shape and pulled out some witchcraft book for definitions :lulz: while I used a dictionary. I was also trying to tell her that Wiccan is waaaaaay newer than she thought. All wiccans beleive that they're part of some ancient sect or something, when the fact of the matter is that it's only a few years older than our very own Dis-cord-i-a. This bent her even more out of shape, I couldn't even recognize her anymore :lulz:
Earth worship. What a silly thing. Go dig a hole and live in it if you like dirt so much...
A few years older as in a few decades older. But compared to something like Christianity, yeah, still very new religions. And Eris as a worshipped Goddess is way older, if Wiccans would be a bit more concrete about their godforms they might be able to more effectively claim an ancient lineage.
It seems to be a mishmash of ancient Celtic believes. The problem being a lot of what we know comes from secondary sources (later Christian sources, or Roman classical sources) and a lot of time the archeology contradicts that.
I'm not saying religions need to be rigid in their belief systems and not be able to evolve as new evidence comes in, but most wiccans that I know have a system of rituals that are based on a concept of a religion rather then linage to it. So it can't trace it's linage anywhere but it's founding.
Nothing I have a problem with. I do know some wiccans who admit that.
Well as far as I can see, Wicca as an organised body of rituals and beliefs didnt exist until 1951, and that's only Gardnerian Wicca. Other popular traditions followed later. Discordianism started in 1958-9. So not even decades.
Quote from: Cain on August 24, 2010, 11:36:01 PM
Well as far as I can see, Wicca as an organised body of rituals and beliefs didnt exist until 1951, and that's only Gardnerian Wicca. Other popular traditions followed later. Discordianism started in 1958-9. So not even decades.
I didn't realize Gardner waited that long to organize it.
The whole "Wicca is a continuation of an ancient tradition" thing comes from Gardner's claims that he was publicizing the practices of a coven that was following an ancient tradition. Strikes me as unlikely since names have always been a pretty big thing for both Celts and Germanic people, so any tradition arising from them (which would be what Britain has to draw on) would be very unlikely to have an unnamed divinity at the center of their worship.
Also that he stole a heap of stuff from Crowley, who probably wasn't Mahadquickal Advisor to the Celts and Germanic people.
There were groups dating back to the 1920s who used Magaret Murray's "research", mixed in with Theosophy, Golden Dawn, Freemason and Classical literature references and material, but...well, Murray's research was bullshit, as were the practices of these groups, in terms of corresponding to anything actually existing historically. And Wicca derived from them, so yeah.
Quote from: Cain on August 24, 2010, 11:47:35 PM
Also that he stole a heap of stuff from Crowley, who probably wasn't Mahadquickal Advisor to the Celts and Germanic people.
There were groups dating back to the 1920s who used Magaret Murray's "research", mixed in with Theosophy, Golden Dawn, Freemason and Classical literature references and material, but...well, Murray's research was bullshit, as were the practices of these groups, in terms of corresponding to anything actually existing historically. And Wicca derived from them, so yeah.
A nameless divinity makes a lot more sense for a stolen from Crowley approach. Crowley's work was mostly Hebrew mysticism, as far as I can tell from what I have read of him. Filtered through freemasonry and golden dawn and whatnot, but still basically Hebrew, and a nameless god fits right in with Judaism.
(funny to think of Wicca as an Abrahamaic religion)
Allen H Greenfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_H._Greenfield) has made the case (somewhere) that Crowley was working with Gardener on Wicca before he died, and this was the new project he was attempting to unveil, an "outer chuch" to recruit more people for his AA inner circle.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 24, 2010, 11:53:04 PM
(funny to think of Wicca as an Abrahamaic religion)
OH NOES Trinitarian Wicca
:eek:
j/k
Quote from: Cain on August 24, 2010, 11:56:55 PM
Allen H Greenfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_H._Greenfield) has made the case (somewhere) that Crowley was working with Gardener on Wicca before he died, and this was the new project he was attempting to unveil, an "outer chuch" to recruit more people for his AA inner circle.
...
Without knowing more about Thelma and Crowley, I would say that sounds believable. Guess I should find some Gardnerian circle and weasel my way through the grades to find out skrits they have.
This is moo. You should give in and love the Great Bovine.
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 24, 2010, 11:58:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 24, 2010, 11:56:55 PM
Allen H Greenfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_H._Greenfield) has made the case (somewhere) that Crowley was working with Gardener on Wicca before he died, and this was the new project he was attempting to unveil, an "outer chuch" to recruit more people for his AA inner circle.
...
Without knowing more about Thelma and Crowley, I would say that sounds believable. Guess I should find some Gardnerian circle and weasel my way through the grades to find out skrits they have.
IIRC, the belief was that Crowley issued a charter for Gardener to work on the project, and while locating the document (and subsequently proving its authenticity) is difficult, the OTO wasnt in a wonderful state back then, and for an attention whore like Crowley, such a state of affairs could not be tolerated. Especially when he could be having mahadquikcal buttsex and watching chicks dance around naked.
Wicca is totally ancient you guys! I mean, haven't you ever seen all the stone carvings of lonely fat goth chicks dancing around maypoles?? :lulz:
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Just make mini blair witch dolls and tie them to their front door in the morning
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 04:40:36 AM
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Basic magical error. If you are not using all mundane means possible to maximise your chances of success then you are wasting your magical energy.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 04:40:36 AM
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Basic magical error. If you are not using all mundane means possible to maximise your chances of success then you are wasting your magical energy.
Therefore all pagans that do so are fucking retards.
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 04:40:36 AM
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Basic magical error. If you are not using all mundane means possible to maximise your chances of success then you are wasting your magical energy.
Therefore all pagans that do so are fucking retards.
That's a bit insulting to the mentally challenged, most of them will take mundane means to ensure success.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:07:16 PM
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 04:40:36 AM
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Basic magical error. If you are not using all mundane means possible to maximise your chances of success then you are wasting your magical energy.
Therefore all pagans that do so are fucking retards.
That's a bit insulting to the mentally challenged, most of them will take mundane means to ensure success.
You are right.
Retract my earlier statement equating pagans with the mentally handicapped and any implication that they are engaging in coital relations with retards.
-ahem-
Pagans that ignore mundane explanations for the events of their lives to the point that will not seek the help of trained professionals are deserving of a strong heckling, insulting and everything negative that comes with not seeking mundane help.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 04:40:36 AM
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Basic magical error. If you are not using all mundane means possible to maximise your chances of success then you are wasting your magical energy.
Your what?
sperm?
Quote from: Cramulus on August 25, 2010, 09:28:20 PM
sperm?
Yeah, you guys work on that tantric stuff.
Ima get laid and run my power bar down to zero.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 04:40:36 AM
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Basic magical error. If you are not using all mundane means possible to maximise your chances of success then you are wasting your magical energy.
Your what?
better?
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: Lunar Wolf of the Cow Moon 13 on August 25, 2010, 04:40:36 AM
I want to systematically find all pagans that first assume something is majiqal before seeking professional help, and then fuck with their mode of transportation, their climate control for their house, their fridge, oh and infect them with ringworm.
Basic magical error. If you are not using all mundane means possible to maximise your chances of success then you are wasting your magical energy.
Your what?
better?
No.
If you guys are interested: http://www.geraldgardner.com (http://www.geraldgardner.com) There's lots of stuff in there about how Crowley and Gardner worked together.
And this is just funny http://www.thewica.co.uk/WeekendGardner.htm (http://www.thewica.co.uk/WeekendGardner.htm).
It's all make believe. Wish fulfillment.
It's crap.
Dur.
Know what's funny? If most of them met someone who could actually DO this shit they would be terrified and run like hell.
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 25, 2010, 10:49:21 PM
Know what's funny? If most of them met someone who could actually DO this shit they would be terrified and run like hell.
What's funnier is watching anyone over the age of 13 believe in magic.
*shrug*
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: curiosity on August 25, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Dur.
I was talking to BH.
"Energy".
That's the one thing that always bothered me about the "acting in accord" idea. At that point you aren't practicing magic.
If you do a spell and sit on your butt and then get what you want, ok, that was magic, or at least dumb luck.
If you do a spell and go out and make it happen, that's called being proactive.
If you don't do a spell and go out and make it happen, you get the same result, but wasted less time.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: curiosity on August 25, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Dur.
I was talking to BH.
"Energy".
energy isn't make believe. You get it from eating and you use it up doing things. That's the sort of energy I was talking about, I shouldn't have put the word magical in front of it any more than I should put digging in front of it when referring to the energy someone uses digging a ditch.
I think a lot of the time magic is confuddled with paranormal, para meaning not typical. Who knows what the brain may or may not eventually be capable of. But even if evolution takes us there I think we should leave Harry Potter out of it.
Agreed... "Magic" as a generic catch all term for self mindfucking, metaprogramming etc fine... but throwing fireballs, predicting the future with card etc... nonsense.
Nonsense can be fun, but its still nonsense.
As an example, my wife and I often say the exact same thing at exactly the same time.
PAGAN: ZOMFG! YOU IZ TELEPATHIC!!
Me: Orrrr, we have lived together for 11 years.
I assure you. I only think it's magic when *I* say the exact same thing as someone else. Everyone else has fallen pray to synchronicity.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 10:52:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: curiosity on August 25, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Dur.
I was talking to BH.
"Energy".
energy isn't make believe. You get it from eating and you use it up doing things. That's the sort of energy I was talking about, I shouldn't have put the word magical in front of it any more than I should put digging in front of it when referring to the energy someone uses digging a ditch.
Except that one kind of energy exists, and one doesn't.
hay giuyz i am a nuklear pagan. i manipulate nuklear power via the old ones in my magickal rituals. also, i suffer from seven different types of cancer
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 25, 2010, 10:58:47 PM
Agreed... "Magic" as a generic catch all term for self mindfucking, metaprogramming etc fine...
"Fooling yourself."
You can get a much better mindfuck by looking at things the way they really are than you can by drawing "sigils" and other assorted nonsense.
And metaprogramming is shit. You want to do something, you just do it.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 11:39:16 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 10:52:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: curiosity on August 25, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Dur.
I was talking to BH.
"Energy".
energy isn't make believe. You get it from eating and you use it up doing things. That's the sort of energy I was talking about, I shouldn't have put the word magical in front of it any more than I should put digging in front of it when referring to the energy someone uses digging a ditch.
Except that one kind of energy exists, and one doesn't.
Nonsense. Energy expended for "magical" doings is just as real as energy expended digging a ditch.
It's just that one has a measurable effect on the physical world, and one doesn't.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 25, 2010, 10:58:47 PM
Agreed... "Magic" as a generic catch all term for self mindfucking, metaprogramming etc fine...
"Fooling yourself."
You can get a much better mindfuck by looking at things the way they really are than you can by drawing "sigils" and other assorted nonsense.
And metaprogramming is shit. You want to do something, you just do it.
Sweet merciful fuck, and how!
The sad thing is that most people never learn how to do this, and many of the ones who do end up with a "mental illness".
Quote from: Nigel on August 25, 2010, 11:43:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 11:39:16 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 25, 2010, 10:52:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: curiosity on August 25, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Dur.
I was talking to BH.
"Energy".
energy isn't make believe. You get it from eating and you use it up doing things. That's the sort of energy I was talking about, I shouldn't have put the word magical in front of it any more than I should put digging in front of it when referring to the energy someone uses digging a ditch.
Except that one kind of energy exists, and one doesn't.
Nonsense. Energy expended for "magical" doings is just as real as energy expended digging a ditch.
It's just that one has a measurable effect on the physical world, and one doesn't.
Point. It still takes energy to sit and diddle around.
What I'm referring to is shit like "charging a sigil", or "sending energy", or that egregore shit.
Quote from: Nigel on August 25, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 25, 2010, 10:58:47 PM
Agreed... "Magic" as a generic catch all term for self mindfucking, metaprogramming etc fine...
"Fooling yourself."
You can get a much better mindfuck by looking at things the way they really are than you can by drawing "sigils" and other assorted nonsense.
And metaprogramming is shit. You want to do something, you just do it.
Sweet merciful fuck, and how!
The sad thing is that most people never learn how to do this, and many of the ones who do end up with a "mental illness".
That's a risk I'm willing to take.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 11:46:17 PM
Quote from: Nigel on August 25, 2010, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 25, 2010, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on August 25, 2010, 10:58:47 PM
Agreed... "Magic" as a generic catch all term for self mindfucking, metaprogramming etc fine...
"Fooling yourself."
You can get a much better mindfuck by looking at things the way they really are than you can by drawing "sigils" and other assorted nonsense.
And metaprogramming is shit. You want to do something, you just do it.
Sweet merciful fuck, and how!
The sad thing is that most people never learn how to do this, and many of the ones who do end up with a "mental illness".
That's a risk I'm willing to take.
I
like it that way.
WILL THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT USHER IN THE ANTICHRIST?
http://www.everythingisterrible.com/2009/07/new-age-movement-threatens-us-all.html
btw. everythingisterrible edits takes old strange videos and edits them down to make them even more ridiculous
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on August 31, 2010, 05:35:21 AM
WILL THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT USHER IN THE ANTICHRIST?
http://www.everythingisterrible.com/2009/07/new-age-movement-threatens-us-all.html
btw. everythingisterrible edits takes old strange videos and edits them down to make them even more ridiculous
What the fuck is this? Whatever it is, it's awesome.
I had no idea 5 and a quarter inch floppys were so dangerous. :lulz: