A funny thing happened when I contemplated the forum.
The PD is a text that, above all, prompts thinking for one's self. And what is a thought, but an action, waiting for a green light? Thinking for one's self, and doing for one's self, and forging the reality that makes one happy, is the overarching theme/purpose of what made itself manifest to the persons of Mal2 and OKR on that fateful day at the lanes. "Throw off the shackles of what went before, because with every sunrise, there is new opportunity. Escape from the "now" is fruitless, and we're all sacks of rotting meat at the end, so be, live, think as you wish, because no-one need give you permission; you hold all in the palm of your hand."
Dogma, and external standards, can carry you only so far. The foundation can be laid in mud and straw, but bricks can only be forged in the heat of LIFE, the kiln of experience. To forge a basis of KNOWING there must be a trial for true; else the first wind that blows, the first rumble of earth, the first wave from far out to sea, will trip up your fleeing feet, will foul your erstwhile escape, will preclude your precious self-preservation, and doom your dumbass to defeat.
The ones that stand guard, the Gargantuan Gargoyles who watch over the gates to enlightenment, are possessed of a responsibility that goes with such lofty pretensions. They are the ones on whom it falls to provide the next layer of Truth. When emotions run high, and enthusiasm is everywhere evident, They are the ones to drive the horrible truths home, to push and pull the Proto-Enlightened to rise above their constraints. If mere words become standards, then Rules become Law, and Someone will get too Serious, and the self-appointed Cerberus must fulfill its role to crack the Lails and salt the snails and rave and rant and wear no pants to allow a draft to alter the attitude to a point of proper irreverence.
Discord, who struck a chord in me, is an interesting note (or measure, or maybe an entire phrase), but the symphony of LIFE awaits, each unto his own, until, in the din of existence, there is a completeness achieved (yet never ending, until the last note fades away).
In plain terms, I view the forums here at PD.com as an example of what might be achieved in a group of individuals ... one model amongst many others that should serve to encourage the dreams of those that wish to be themselves, and who realize, quite possibly for the first time, that the only thing that's stopping them is a papier-mache wall. By virtue of its location, at TheHolyBook.com, this forum is the likeliest place to attract the Noobs (who admittedly may not be as bored with the Original as the rest). Yet as long as there is a sense of wonder, as long as a desire is evident for a broadening of perspective, then they should be helped, and guided, and given a measure of understanding, else they recoil as much from freedom as one of us would a southern baptist furry convention with Hitler as the main speaker and the world's fugliest woman passing out herpes by the cunt-full in the lobby.
Who among us has never had a dream? Who among us has never felt the thrill of a new and different perspective? Can you not recall a moment where your world turned on end? And did you not avoid the clock, recalling Schrodinger's Cat? If you close your eyes, and do not acknowledge time, this NEW can last forever!
Then...
Inevitably...
The question presents itself...
Now what?
All I know is that I don't know. The answers you seek lie on the path that you alone must walk. I can share what I have learned from the places that I've been, but until you've done the things I have, it's nothing more than talk. I can point in a direction, but the steps must be your own.
All I know is that I want to know what lies 'round every corner, I wish to understand myself, my area, my world and universe, and so I keep my eyes and ears open for whatever I can gather from whomever seems worthwhile, so share your thoughts, ideas, and dreams, and who knows where we might go!
What does all of this have to do with saving the dolphins?
you and Comrade Kenan bring up similar questions/issues
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11450.0)
its a useful perspective to re-visit
since there is no answer that one person can really give that would suffice for another person (aka. another person's words cannot solve your problems), it is a good way for a individual to see how far they have come
the 'Now What'-ness of it all
the solo-journey / group effort split
The group thing kind of intrigues me, because if one were to spend their entire life isolated from others, the total amount of knowledge of the self and the world would be minuscule --> we need external input for internal growth,
I'm starting to see a correlation between individual computers connecting to various servers, creating the totality of the internet, with individual lives behind the firewall of the physical interface, connecting with various groups who wish to influence knowledge/perception/actions of said individuals, encompassing the totality of the human race.
It's as if, most of our lives, we've been given shitty software with a limited amount of options, then we find (in things like discordia, meditation, psychology--some of it--, science, and whatever else trips our triggers) "programs" that help us be more of what we want, and do more of what makes us happy. Then, when AOL, spyware, and spammers realize they're losing their hold, they fight back with deviousness and subtlety, alongside flashing lights and loud noises, the classic magician's trick of "Look over here while I do something else over here."
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 28, 2007, 10:17:50 PM
It's as if, most of our lives, we've been given shitty software with a limited amount of options, then we find (in things like discordia, meditation, psychology--some of it--, science, and whatever else trips our triggers) "programs" that help us be more of what we want, and do more of what makes us happy.  Then, when AOL, spyware, and spammers realize they're losing their hold, they fight back with deviousness and subtlety, alongside flashing lights and loud noises, the classic magician's trick of "Look over here while I do something else over here."
I disagree with this, I think. We are all born with the appropriate "software" if you want to use the computer metaphor. But, much like a computer, if you corrupt it with garbage input and data, it will impact how it operates. A child isn't born a racist, someone programs that into them. A child is born with what he or she needs to survive and be themselves. It's as the child develops and grows up that they are instructed to "be a good boy", "don't make that noise", "you should use your right hand not your left", "you should go to college", "you should become a doctor to support mommy and daddy", etc., etc. This is where people get fucked up.
Sometimes the best intentions can be the worst deeds.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 28, 2007, 10:17:50 PM
It's as if, most of our lives, we've been given shitty software from the obvious and occluded lessons administered from day one by the people who are supposed to give a shit about our welfare with a limited amount of options, then we find (in things like discordia, meditation, psychology--some of it--, science, and whatever else trips our triggers) "programs" that help us be more of what we want, and do more of what makes us happy. Then, when AOL, spyware, and spammers realize they're losing their hold, they fight back with deviousness and subtlety, alongside flashing lights and loud noises, the classic magician's trick of "Look over here while I do something else over here."
Clarified
This thread doesn't have anything about killing 11/12 people in the world to save the dolphins.
What the hell is going on? When Bhode posts, I expect to see some hilarious shit about "primitivism" (funniest thing since furries, IMO).
GET ON THE FUCKING STICK!
Bhode?
Are you simply ignoring him?
Boring.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 29, 2007, 02:40:42 PM
A child isn't born a racist, someone programs that into them.  A child is born with what he or she needs to survive and be themselves.  It's as the child develops and grows up that they are instructed to "be a good boy", "don't make that noise", "you should use your right hand not your left", "you should go to college", "you should become a doctor to support mommy and daddy", etc., etc.  This is where people get fucked up.
To toss in my two cents,
You said that children aren't born racists, people program that into them... I think they're in sort of a "mu" state at birth, neither 0 nor 1, neither racists nor
not racists.
but that's neither here nor there.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2007, 09:10:58 AM
What does all of this have to do with saving the dolphins?
:mittens:
Just a sec, I'll go read the rant, I just wanted to get to the immediate TGRR response first.
EDIT
Yeah, read it.
Quote from: Idem on January 30, 2007, 01:45:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2007, 09:10:58 AM
What does all of this have to do with saving the dolphins?
:mittens:
Just a sec, I'll go read the rant, I just wanted to get to the immediate TGRR response first.
EDIT
Yeah, read it.
:lol:
TGRR,
Stealing thunder since Zeus was in business.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on January 29, 2007, 11:33:24 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 29, 2007, 02:40:42 PM
A child isn't born a racist, someone programs that into them.  A child is born with what he or she needs to survive and be themselves.  It's as the child develops and grows up that they are instructed to "be a good boy", "don't make that noise", "you should use your right hand not your left", "you should go to college", "you should become a doctor to support mommy and daddy", etc., etc.  This is where people get fucked up.
To toss in my two cents,
You said that children aren't born racists, people program that into them... I think they're in sort of a "mu" state at birth, neither 0 nor 1, neither racists nor not racists.
but that's neither here nor there.
Please to be expounding on what "not racist" means.
I think what the Prof is saying is that an infant has no knowledge of race a priori, so it cannot form opinions or thoughts of situations based upon race.
Therefore, neither racist nor not-racist.
Races don't exist.
Sorry, but its true. There is no definition of race, biologically, that stands up to scrutiny. So you are essentially relying on crude visual guides which immediately dispel any theories concerning genetic inferiority or superiority.
LMNO knows where I'm getting this from.
And......(once I've re-read the OP)
RE-JACK!
QuoteNow what?
You almost hit the point in the last full paragraph above this, I think, but shied away by turning to that old pair of tricksters, knowledge and truth.
The experience is what is next. The world is an absurd, chaotic mess filled with anger, fear, beauty, love and confusion. The only reasonable thing to do would be to go along and continue the experience as much as possible. Because you never know, this may be your only shot...
Goddamnit he is!
I think he's ignoring me too!
But Bhode I said I don't hate you!!!
I love dolphins!!!!
(http://www.windchimewalker.com/-collected_image_files/10.2-Oct/10-26-stop-ignoring.jpg)
I think that guy is Horab.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2007, 05:44:06 AM
Quote from: Idem on January 30, 2007, 01:45:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2007, 09:10:58 AM
What does all of this have to do with saving the dolphins?
:mittens:
Just a sec, I'll go read the rant, I just wanted to get to the immediate TGRR response first.
EDIT
Yeah, read it.
:lol:
TGRR,
Stealing thunder since Zeus was in business.
Didn't somebody else make Zeus' thunder?
I forgot his name...
:lulz:
Gee, I hope none of you ever whinge should I hijack any of your threads.
I don't start threads. :-P
Quote from: Idem on January 30, 2007, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2007, 05:44:06 AM
Quote from: Idem on January 30, 2007, 01:45:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 28, 2007, 09:10:58 AM
What does all of this have to do with saving the dolphins?
:mittens:
Just a sec, I'll go read the rant, I just wanted to get to the immediate TGRR response first.
EDIT
Yeah, read it.
:lol:
TGRR,
Stealing thunder since Zeus was in business.
Didn't somebody else make Zeus' thunder?
I forgot his name...     
:lulz:
Haphestus/Vulcan.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 05:59:20 PM
Gee, I hope none of you ever whinge should I hijack any of your threads.
Fuck him.
Besides, my shit gets hijacked all the time. I have learned to not let it bother me.
TGRR,
Still carrying a grudge.
I'm funny in that when things happen to me that I don't like, I tend to not like it when they happen to other people too.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 06:20:54 PM
I'm funny in that when things happen to me that I don't like, I tend to not like it when they happen to other people too.
Yeah, well, anyone else, I might feel bad.
But it's Bhode. So I fucking don't.
I gotta be me.
TGRR,
Still hate-filled and bitter, after all of these years. [/Simon]
That may be your excuse, but it doesn't explain the other two trying to fuck up his thread either.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 01:57:25 PM
Races don't exist.
Sorry, but its true.  There is no definition of race, biologically, that stands up to scrutiny.  So you are essentially relying on crude visual guides which immediately dispel any theories concerning genetic inferiority or superiority.
LMNO knows where I'm getting this from.
And......(once I've re-read the OP)
RE-JACK!
For the re-jack.
Hey, I'm trying to be friends with Bhode now.
He won't have me.
An asshole scorned...
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 06:24:59 PM
That may be your excuse, but it doesn't explain the other two trying to fuck up his thread either.
Maybe they're just waiting for smores?
Quote from: hunter s.durden on January 30, 2007, 06:27:48 PM
Hey, I'm trying to be friends with Bhode now.
He won't have me.
An asshole scorned...
On the other hand, he still hasn't explained why we should die for his "primitivist" beliefs.
I mean, what's in it for us?
He's also making way to recanting those beliefs, as some of you would have noticed if you had read his posts in more detail.
Which is why this witch hunt has become so fucking pointless.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 06:32:21 PM
He's also making way to recanting those beliefs, as some of you would have noticed if you had read his posts in more detail.
Which is why this witch hunt has become so fucking pointless.
Maybe for you.
TGRR,
Is still piling up wood.
What the hell?
I understood... Didn't you see where I said I don't hate him? The dolphin pictures?
Don't lump me in with The Evil Arsehole Roger.
I want to blow Bhode to show I don't hate him, and i'm not a homophobe.
Then people will like me right?
Quote from: hunter s.durden on January 30, 2007, 06:36:27 PM
What the hell?
I understood... Didn't you see where I said I don't hate him? The dolphin pictures?
Don't lump me in with The Evil Arsehole Roger.
I want to blow Bhode to show I don't hate him, and i'm not a homophobe.
Then people will like me right?
I won't. :-P
Fuck it.
Bhode, if you want me to lock or split this thread, just PM me.
Dammit....
If only I could cater to everyone...
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 06:40:21 PM
Fuck it.
Bhode, if you want me to lock or split this thread, just PM me.
Looks like Bhode found a friend.
TGRR,
Would, of course, do the same thing if he had his mod hat on.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on January 30, 2007, 06:41:58 PM
Dammit....
If only I could cater to everyone...
(http://www.whofailedtoday.com/bbs/img/smilies/nono.gif)
Only if you're Italian.
I've already explained why.
And I can't ever not have my mod hat on. It says admin, I'm administrating, regardless of my personal views on Bhode and what he said, which you can look up for yourselves if you're that interested.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 06:44:01 PM
I've already explained why.
And I can't ever not have my mod hat on.  It says admin, I'm administrating, regardless of my personal views on Bhode and what he said, which you can look up for yourselves if you're that interested.
Actually, I thought we all agreed we'd moderate on demand in cases like this.
I haven't seen any demand.
Probably because Bhode thinks the mods would kick his head in if he asked. I'm making it clear thats not the case.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 06:47:52 PM
Probably because Bhode thinks the mods would kick his head in if he asked.  I'm making it clear thats not the case.
*shrug*
I'll kick his head in ANYWAY, so what's he got to lose?
Pissing in TGRR's cornflakes, ITT.
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2007, 06:50:17 PM
Pissing in TGRR's cornflakes, ITT.
(http://www.whofailedtoday.com/bbs/img/smilies/gay.gif)
(http://www.whofailedtoday.com/bbs/img/smilies/mad.gif)(http://www.whofailedtoday.com/bbs/img/smilies/fag.gif)
To be honest, I'm getting kind of bored with fucking up Bhode's freads.
But I told him I was gonna, until he apologized...and he refuses to do that.
So we get what we have here, today. I'm gonna keep my word, and he's gonna keep writing freads for me to demolish.
ITT: Rogers vengance v. Cains sense of responsibility
Quote from: hunter s.durden on January 30, 2007, 06:54:37 PM
ITT: Rogers vengance v. Cains sense of responsibility
More to the point, Cain's sense of fairness vs my sense of grudge-holding.
I win.
Whats unfair about thread jacking?
Words v. words
No unfair advantage.
If he wants it back, he should take it back.
Builds Character.
Yeah, thats what everyone says until it happens to something they put some time into.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on January 30, 2007, 06:59:31 PM
Whats unfair about thread jacking?
Words v. words
No unfair advantage.
If he wants it back, he should take it back.
Builds Character.
Yeah.  What he said.
*gets sacred 9-iron*
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:00:14 PM
Yeah, thats what everyone says until it happens to something they put some time into.
That's what I say AFTER I put time into stuff.
Every thread I start turns into a topic about music. *shrug*
And most of mine get plain ignored. *shrugs* At least here something could be done. I would have expected you to say something on your thread, however given how Bhode has been treated lately I doubt he would feel the same. Different context.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2007, 07:01:23 PM
Every thread I start turns into a topic about music. *shrug*
Roger's gotz Rhythm
For the record Cain, I don't ignore your posts, I just usually feel completely unable to respond to them, because I don't know enough about the subject to say something relevant, witty, or even accurate.
Please. You dont have to suck up to me because I'm a mod.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:03:18 PM
And most of mine get plain ignored.  *shrugs*  At least here something could be done.  I would have expected you to say something on your thread, however given how Bhode has been treated lately I doubt he would feel the same.  Different context.
1.  I read your stuff.  There's usually nothing to add (it would be like writing in the margins of Von Clausewitz), but I occasionally post mittens.
2.  Fuck Bhode.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:06:19 PM
Please.  You dont have to suck up to me because I'm a mod.
Damn. I thought I could be a s powerful as Pawnman, someday. :cry:
I think threadjacking is inevitable mostly because a lot of people don't like to go back and read the history of the thread. It's like that game you play in school where you sit at a table and the teacher whispers something in your ear, then you to the classmate sitting beside you, so on and so forth. So the teacher says "I like puppies" and by the end it's "The Janitor likes to touch wee-wees."
Yes, but its being done on purpose, its not just happening because of natural drift in topic.
Oh, yeah right, I've got nothing then.
[MW]
We should have rules!
[/MW]
Natural Drift.
I challenge. If hatred or love of an individual causes a topic to drift i'd say thats just as natural as not reading the whole thing or only commenting based on the last post. It's the same as how I feel nuclear war is a pefectly natural end to the planet.
Which is explicitly why I'm not doing anything unless Bhode says so. Like I've already said (what, 3 times now?) he's been taking a few kicks lately and quite frankly if I were him I wouldn't trust the mods. But if he wants it split, I will.
Quote from: hunter s.durden on January 30, 2007, 07:19:48 PM
Natural Drift.
I challenge. If hatred or love of an individual causes a topic to drift i'd say thats just as natural as not reading the whole thing or only commenting based on the last post. It's the same as how I feel nuclear war is a pefectly natural end to the planet.
And I say its a shitty way of having a go at someone just because you can. If someone has put some work into something, you shouldn't just piss all over it because you don't like them. If you want that sort of crap you should have been here two years ago.
Don't shit on my presidents Iraq plan just because you don't like him.
Well after the way this thread has turned out, I'm seriously considering not bothering to put up a lot of work I've been writing up lately. I mean, if this shit is going to go on, whats the point? I enjoy alot of the longer posts and work that comes on here, and if people are going to mess it up with little in the way of real justification, there is little reason for me to hang around.
But knock yourselves out. Piss off and drive away everyone from the forum who has something to contribute, return this place to the desert it was a year ago.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:29:13 PM
Well after the way this thread has turned out, I'm seriously considering not bothering to put up a lot of work I've been writing up lately.  I mean, if this shit is going to go on, whats the point?  I enjoy alot of the longer posts and work that comes on here, and if people are going to mess it up with little in the way of real justification, there is little reason for me to hang around.
But knock yourselves out.  Piss off and drive away everyone from the forum who has something to contribute, return this place to the desert it was a year ago.
Um, yeah. That's why I've been posting this shit in multiple threads, right? Right?
Nope. Just in Bhode's.
TGRR,
Won't apologize for that.
Nope, you haven't. But that seems to be the implication "I dont like this person, lets fuck their shit up!" Like I said, knock yourselves out, PD.com evidently has enough members for another implosion.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:20:03 PM
Which is explicitly why I'm not doing anything unless Bhode says so.  Like I've already said (what, 3 times now?) he's been taking a few kicks lately and quite frankly if I were him I wouldn't trust the mods.  But if he wants it split, I will.
Awwwww, the poor little jerk.  He posts a bunch of shit, tells me that he is free to rip me off at will, because some of the things I say are "bigger than just one person", and then tells 11/12ths of us to DIE for his stupid beliefs.
Why on EARTH would anyone kick him around?
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:32:41 PM
Nope, you haven't.  But that seems to be the implication "I dont like this person, lets fuck their shit up!"  Like I said, knock yourselves out, PD.com evidently has enough members for another implosion.
*shrug*
I gave my word. I can't very well go back on that, can I? Besides, he fucked with me. I wouldn't be Roger if I didn't fuck right back.
Now, are you suggesting that dealing with Mal3 was an implosion? Because I equate the two.
However, Mal3 showed no signs of losing the scales from his eyes. Bohde has made some concessions to that.
What is it with people putting words in my mouth today? You all know its one of the few things that properly pisses me off, so why do it?
Everyone laid into him in the threads where he did it. And he's shown signs of rethinking his position.
Oh fuckit. I've explained myself several times, why bother doing it again?
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2007, 07:35:48 PM
However, Mal3 showed no signs of losing the scales from his eyes.  Bohde has made some concessions to that.
Yeah, but there's still the personal hate thing.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:35:52 PM
What is it with people putting words in my mouth today?  You all know its one of the few things that properly pisses me off, so why do it?
Everyone laid into him in the threads where he did it.  And he's shown signs of rethinking his position.
Oh fuckit.  I've explained myself several times, why bother doing it again? 
1. When did I put words in your mouth? I asked you a question.
2. Great. I still hate him.
QuoteThat's why I've been posting this shit in multiple threads, right? Right?
Implied in the context of the question.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2007, 07:07:16 PM1. I read your stuff. There's usually nothing to add (it would be like writing in the margins of Von Clausewitz), but I occasionally post mittens.
2. Fuck Bhode.
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2007, 07:05:54 PM
For the record Cain, I don't ignore your posts, I just usually feel completely unable to respond to them, because I don't know enough about the subject to say something relevant, witty, or even accurate.
You'll excuse my skepticism on these points. I quite find it hard to believe people have any high opinion of me.
Believe it. From me, at least.
Srsly.
Self-doubt, ITT.
I find it hard to trust anyone when a thread is deleted which no-one will tell me the contents of, despite it being close to my interests. I have to start wondering why no-one will talk in detail and one conclusion keeps coming up.
If the company I keep is not considered worthy of respect, then I find it hard to believe that I am. And thats two insults for the price of one.
Ok, there's that "long memory" thing again.
Was this back in the bad old days? 'Cuz I don't remember.
i'd written something supportive and concillatory...but no one will get to read it because my login timed out. :x
i've gotta take the dog out for her afternoon crap...back shortly...
okay guys, the Professor is sending you to detention. :-P
go post some happy thoughts (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11500)
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2007, 07:56:19 PM
Ok, there's that "long memory" thing again.
Was this back in the bad old days? 'Cuz I don't remember.
Only if a month ago is considered a long time.
But hey, lets keep Cain in the dark. I mean, its not like his paranoia isn't already legendary and he has an annoying habit of coming to logical conclusions, but if we don't tell him he may just forget it. Right?
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on January 30, 2007, 08:00:20 PM
okay guys, the Professor is sending you to detention. :-P
go post some happy thoughts (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11500)
Non Serviam.
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2007, 07:56:19 PM
Ok, there's that "long memory" thing again.
Was this back in the bad old days?  'Cuz I don't remember.
Only if a month ago is considered a long time.
But hey, lets keep Cain in the dark.  I mean, its not like his paranoia isn't already legendary and he has an annoying habit of coming to logical conclusions, but if we don't tell him he may just forget it.  Right?
I didn't have the ability to delete threads a month ago. And I don't recall offhand of a thread being deleted. I'd tell you it's contents, if I knew what you were talking about.
The thread on EB&G I wasn't meant to know about, the one slagging off my girlfriend. No-one will tell me precisely who posted in it, exactly who said what and who I can trust.
So basically, until I know, I can't trust anyone who had access.
[schoolkid]
She started it!
[/schoolkid]
I'll do some digging, I'll see what I can find.
Nothing, its been deleted and from the little I can corroborate, those responsible for its nuking had the most to hide.
But then again, how would I know?
Okidokie.
::backs out of thread slowly::
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 28, 2007, 08:16:42 AM
A funny thing happened when I contemplated the forum.
I call bullshit!
Pics or it didn't happen!
Cain-- Thanks for the consideration, but what it comes down to with me, is that I write what makes sense to me, and it's up to anyone else to enjoy, rebut, ignore, or whatever. Whatever goes along with the OP stays, as that is what happened, I'm not sweating it. Also, your self-doubt seems entirely inappropriate because you're intelligent, articulate, and gosh darn it, people like you. I also live with the dichotomy of knowing how awesome I am, yet ever lurking in the back of my mind is the idea that I may just be fooling myself. It's rough, but for all the time spent at one extreme, hopefully you experience the other.
Hunter-- I'm not trying to ignore anybody, but I only comment when I have something productive to add. Also, I'm not on here all the time, so I miss things sometimes.
Rodger-- While I'm impressed with much of your writings, and your sense of commitment to fucking with me seems solid, I can't help but wonder if there aren't more productive things you could be doing with your hate, like making children cry, or soccer moms clinically depressed, or even designing a miniature torture chamber out of legos to act out your desire for revenge.
RWHN-- The entirety of the OP following that statement was the funny thing that happened. Well, it might not be that funny haha, but I was also making a reference to a movie title, to better grab people's interest.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 30, 2007, 08:38:04 PM
RWHN-- The entirety of the OP following that statement was the funny thing that happened.  Well, it might not be that funny haha, but I was also making a reference to a movie title, to better grab people's interest.
I know, I was just trying to shear the drama-llama that decided to take a load off in the middle of the thread.
See Cain....
Me and Bhode are totally gay for each other now.
Why'd you doubt it?
Has anything i've ever said led you to believe i'm not completely sincere?
P.S. I love you, Cain.
I LOVE ALL OF YOU.
me too
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2007, 07:07:16 PM1.  I read your stuff.  There's usually nothing to add (it would be like writing in the margins of Von Clausewitz), but I occasionally post mittens.
2.  Fuck Bhode.
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2007, 07:05:54 PM
For the record Cain, I don't ignore your posts, I just usually feel completely unable to respond to them, because I don't know enough about the subject to say something relevant, witty, or even accurate.
You'll excuse my skepticism on these points.  I quite find it hard to believe people have any high opinion of me.
Okay. So I'm a fucking liar.
Fuck this noise. This is bullshit.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 30, 2007, 08:38:04 PM
Rodger-- While I'm impressed with much of your writings, and your sense of commitment to fucking with me seems solid, I can't help but wonder if there aren't more productive things you could be doing with your hate, like making children cry, or soccer moms clinically depressed, or even designing a miniature torture chamber out of legos to act out your desire for revenge.
:lulz:
Cain:  This is what you want?  Okay.
He's ALL yours.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2007, 06:11:20 AM
Quote from: Cain on January 30, 2007, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 30, 2007, 07:07:16 PM1. I read your stuff. There's usually nothing to add (it would be like writing in the margins of Von Clausewitz), but I occasionally post mittens.
2. Fuck Bhode.
Quote from: LMNO on January 30, 2007, 07:05:54 PM
For the record Cain, I don't ignore your posts, I just usually feel completely unable to respond to them, because I don't know enough about the subject to say something relevant, witty, or even accurate.
You'll excuse my skepticism on these points. I quite find it hard to believe people have any high opinion of me.
Okay. So I'm a fucking liar.
Fuck this noise. This is bullshit.
I don't know, because no-one wants to fucking tell me what happened. Come on Roger, you were there. You think what happened in that thread isn't of my concern?
As far as I can tell, several people who are quite pleasant to me, to my face, had no compunction about doing otherwise behind my back. The sort of people who often made suckup noises about my work to my face but didn't even hesitate when they were given the green light to stick the knife in. Why on earth would I trust any of those people with anything ever again? There was a reason I insisted on account deletion, you know.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2007, 06:12:51 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 30, 2007, 08:38:04 PM
Rodger-- While I'm impressed with much of your writings, and your sense of commitment to fucking with me seems solid, I can't help but wonder if there aren't more productive things you could be doing with your hate, like making children cry, or soccer moms clinically depressed, or even designing a miniature torture chamber out of legos to act out your desire for revenge.
:lulz:
Cain: This is what you want? Okay.
He's ALL yours.
Sounds like the people I'm talking about, only less they're less restrained.
(http://www.utdallas.edu/~katies/threadjack.jpg)
(http://www.arb.ca.gov/as/laborrelations/supkit/Images/toolbox.gif)
In the words of TGRR, this forum has turned into a fucking toolbox.
Just in time for you to show back up!
Quote from: LMNO on January 31, 2007, 08:45:16 PM
Just in time for you to show back up!
This being the internet, what exactly was the connotation of that? Was it mocking me, mocking the board, or something else?
How about all three?
So would that be a Tri-Facta?
*backs away to avoid looking even stupider than I already do*
Don't step in tha- Oh. Um, carry on.
>_>
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 28, 2007, 08:16:42 AM
A funny thing happened when I contemplated the forum.
The PD is a text that, above all, prompts thinking for one's self. And what is a thought, but an action, waiting for a green light? Thinking for one's self, and doing for one's self, and forging the reality that makes one happy, is the overarching theme/purpose of what made itself manifest to the persons of Mal2 and OKR on that fateful day at the lanes. "Throw off the shackles of what went before, because with every sunrise, there is new opportunity. Escape from the "now" is fruitless, and we're all sacks of rotting meat at the end, so be, live, think as you wish, because no-one need give you permission; you hold all in the palm of your hand."
Dogma, and external standards, can carry you only so far. The foundation can be laid in mud and straw, but bricks can only be forged in the heat of LIFE, the kiln of experience. To forge a basis of KNOWING there must be a trial for true; else the first wind that blows, the first rumble of earth, the first wave from far out to sea, will trip up your fleeing feet, will foul your erstwhile escape, will preclude your precious self-preservation, and doom your dumbass to defeat.
The ones that stand guard, the Gargantuan Gargoyles who watch over the gates to enlightenment, are possessed of a responsibility that goes with such lofty pretensions. They are the ones on whom it falls to provide the next layer of Truth. When emotions run high, and enthusiasm is everywhere evident, They are the ones to drive the horrible truths home, to push and pull the Proto-Enlightened to rise above their constraints. If mere words become standards, then Rules become Law, and Someone will get too Serious, and the self-appointed Cerberus must fulfill its role to crack the Lails and salt the snails and rave and rant and wear no pants to allow a draft to alter the attitude to a point of proper irreverence.
Discord, who struck a chord in me, is an interesting note (or measure, or maybe an entire phrase), but the symphony of LIFE awaits, each unto his own, until, in the din of existence, there is a completeness achieved (yet never ending, until the last note fades away).
In plain terms, I view the forums here at PD.com as an example of what might be achieved in a group of individuals ... one model amongst many others that should serve to encourage the dreams of those that wish to be themselves, and who realize, quite possibly for the first time, that the only thing that's stopping them is a papier-mache wall. By virtue of its location, at TheHolyBook.com, this forum is the likeliest place to attract the Noobs (who admittedly may not be as bored with the Original as the rest). Yet as long as there is a sense of wonder, as long as a desire is evident for a broadening of perspective, then they should be helped, and guided, and given a measure of understanding, else they recoil as much from freedom as one of us would a southern baptist furry convention with Hitler as the main speaker and the world's fugliest woman passing out herpes by the cunt-full in the lobby.
Who among us has never had a dream? Who among us has never felt the thrill of a new and different perspective? Can you not recall a moment where your world turned on end? And did you not avoid the clock, recalling Schrodinger's Cat? If you close your eyes, and do not acknowledge time, this NEW can last forever!
Then...
Inevitably...
The question presents itself...
Now what?
All I know is that I don't know. The answers you seek lie on the path that you alone must walk. I can share what I have learned from the places that I've been, but until you've done the things I have, it's nothing more than talk. I can point in a direction, but the steps must be your own.
All I know is that I want to know what lies 'round every corner, I wish to understand myself, my area, my world and universe, and so I keep my eyes and ears open for whatever I can gather from whomever seems worthwhile, so share your thoughts, ideas, and dreams, and who knows where we might go!
Moar Reaction! ~OP...
Discuss...
(P.S. I've already heard "That was, like, so 2005?!")
(Post- Post- Script: BS is drunk and vulnerable, don't give him a hard time)
(post, post, post script--- Not intended for public consumption--- unless you mean consumption in its "tuburcular" fashion, or maybe some subliminal H5N1 influence where the vast majority of people die...--- Never mind...)
Quote from: Idem on February 06, 2007, 03:16:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 05, 2007, 07:00:38 PM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on February 04, 2007, 01:48:37 PM
Moar Reaction!   ~OP...
Okay:
Die.
Good Lord, Rog, sometimes enough is enough.
Yeah, I'm working on that.
Now step aside.
TGRR,
Too much is ALWAYS better than not enough.
also, bumping your own thread when people have stopped talking about it doesn't suddenly cause everybody to stop think and squeeze out the last new and interesting bits they probably didn't have to say about it in the first place.
You're right. It was a whim, and had I stopped to consider, I probably wouldn't have bumped it, but I was drunk, and the subject of thread-jacking had come up early on, so it was a chancy thing.
Good call 000.
You are the bump referee.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 06, 2007, 06:04:28 PM
Quote from: Idem on February 06, 2007, 03:16:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 05, 2007, 07:00:38 PM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on February 04, 2007, 01:48:37 PM
Moar Reaction!   ~OP...
Okay:
Die.
Good Lord, Rog, sometimes enough is enough.
Yeah, I'm working on that.
Now step aside.
TGRR,
Too much is ALWAYS better than not enough.
Well, it's good to see Roger hasn't changed in the last 2 years. Well, maybe he's mellowed a bit.
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on January 28, 2007, 08:16:42 AM
A funny thing happened when I contemplated the forum.
The PD is a text that, above all, prompts thinking for one's self. And what is a thought, but an action, waiting for a green light? Thinking for one's self, and doing for one's self, and forging the reality that makes one happy, is the overarching theme/purpose of what made itself manifest to the persons of Mal2 and OKR on that fateful day at the lanes. "Throw off the shackles of what went before, because with every sunrise, there is new opportunity. Escape from the "now" is fruitless, and we're all sacks of rotting meat at the end, so be, live, think as you wish, because no-one need give you permission; you hold all in the palm of your hand."
Dogma, and external standards, can carry you only so far. The foundation can be laid in mud and straw, but bricks can only be forged in the heat of LIFE, the kiln of experience. To forge a basis of KNOWING there must be a trial for true; else the first wind that blows, the first rumble of earth, the first wave from far out to sea, will trip up your fleeing feet, will foul your erstwhile escape, will preclude your precious self-preservation, and doom your dumbass to defeat.
The ones that stand guard, the Gargantuan Gargoyles who watch over the gates to enlightenment, are possessed of a responsibility that goes with such lofty pretensions. They are the ones on whom it falls to provide the next layer of Truth. When emotions run high, and enthusiasm is everywhere evident, They are the ones to drive the horrible truths home, to push and pull the Proto-Enlightened to rise above their constraints. If mere words become standards, then Rules become Law, and Someone will get too Serious, and the self-appointed Cerberus must fulfill its role to crack the Lails and salt the snails and rave and rant and wear no pants to allow a draft to alter the attitude to a point of proper irreverence.
Discord, who struck a chord in me, is an interesting note (or measure, or maybe an entire phrase), but the symphony of LIFE awaits, each unto his own, until, in the din of existence, there is a completeness achieved (yet never ending, until the last note fades away).
In plain terms, I view the forums here at PD.com as an example of what might be achieved in a group of individuals ... one model amongst many others that should serve to encourage the dreams of those that wish to be themselves, and who realize, quite possibly for the first time, that the only thing that's stopping them is a papier-mache wall. By virtue of its location, at TheHolyBook.com, this forum is the likeliest place to attract the Noobs (who admittedly may not be as bored with the Original as the rest). Yet as long as there is a sense of wonder, as long as a desire is evident for a broadening of perspective, then they should be helped, and guided, and given a measure of understanding, else they recoil as much from freedom as one of us would a southern baptist furry convention with Hitler as the main speaker and the world's fugliest woman passing out herpes by the cunt-full in the lobby.
Who among us has never had a dream? Who among us has never felt the thrill of a new and different perspective? Can you not recall a moment where your world turned on end? And did you not avoid the clock, recalling Schrodinger's Cat? If you close your eyes, and do not acknowledge time, this NEW can last forever!
Then...
Inevitably...
The question presents itself...
Now what?
All I know is that I don't know. The answers you seek lie on the path that you alone must walk. I can share what I have learned from the places that I've been, but until you've done the things I have, it's nothing more than talk. I can point in a direction, but the steps must be your own.
All I know is that I want to know what lies 'round every corner, I wish to understand myself, my area, my world and universe, and so I keep my eyes and ears open for whatever I can gather from whomever seems worthwhile, so share your thoughts, ideas, and dreams, and who knows where we might go!
OMG UNFUNNY BUMPTROLL WONT STOP BUMPING.
yay that was good hating
now what are stuck with
fucking pedos and morons
:sad:
Where did Idem go, btw?
Is it my memory or havent we seen him in a while?
11/12ths of humanity deserves to die for this bump.
Quote from: Triple Zero on August 04, 2009, 09:27:39 PM
Where did Idem go, btw?
Is it my memory or havent we seen him in a while?
He's an IRC casualty.
Idem's internet broke for a couple weeks, I think he's back now.