is it possible to make your brain more effective?
does it not involve using symbols?
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Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:16:47 PM
is it possible to make your brain more effective?
does it not involve using symbols?
Depends.  If you are the average American (I really can't speak for Europe), you'd make your brain more effective by digging it out of your skull and splattering it all over the teevee screen.
If you're anyone else, you might consider trying to teach yourself how to think without using symbols.  Wait, that's impossible.  So I guess your question doesn't make any fucking sense.
I want my 60 seconds back.
Quote from: LMNO on February 21, 2007, 05:19:12 PM
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:lulz:
Why fight it?
in my experience the only way to make my brain more effective is to watch more tv.
because, as long as you keep doing simpler and simpler tasks all the time, it'll feel like your brain can handle anything.
although, there are symbols in this process, the "tailspin to slothitude," the "cabbage soup," and of course, the "oprah winfrey show," which may not be symbolic of anything but when you're up at 3am watching TiVo'd copies of the same episode 14 times in a row, it starts to seem like it's the only thing that comprises the entire universe.
Or so i've been told.
is the fact that most abstract concepts are named after something physical and tangible a accident?
or is it a memory device?
Quote from: vexati0n on February 21, 2007, 05:22:25 PM
in my experience the only way to make my brain more effective is to watch more tv.
because, as long as you keep doing simpler and simpler tasks all the time, it'll feel like your brain can handle anything.
although, there are symbols in this process, the "tailspin to slothitude," the "cabbage soup," and of course, the "oprah winfrey show," which may not be symbolic of anything but when you're up at 3am watching TiVo'd copies of the same episode 14 times in a row, it starts to seem like it's the only thing that comprises the entire universe.
Or so i've been told.
Well, yeah, but that's just the ILLUSION of being more effective.
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:22:38 PM
is the fact that most abstract concepts are named after something physical and tangible a accident?
or is it a memory device?
Accident.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:23:43 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:22:38 PM
is the fact that most abstract concepts are named after something physical and tangible a accident?
or is it a memory device?
Accident.
welcome to the land of unverifiable claims
enjoy your stay
it doesnt change much in these parts so try to get comfortable
All written language and most intellectual thought is accomplished using symbols. Ours is called the alphabet. If you want to get into maths our system was actually so shit that we adopted the arab system of symbolism, since those fuckers totally pwned the shit out of mathematics back then.
If reading something can make you better at doing something that involves any degree of thinking then the answer is yes. Symbols can be employed to make your brain more effective. this in the context that we're talking in terms of mind here and not biology. If it's the biological one we're asking about then I'd advise reading a book on diet and then go exchange some currency for whatever fruit or vitamin you think you'd benefit from.
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:27:42 PM
welcome to the land of unverifiable claims
enjoy your stay
it doesnt change much in these parts so try to get comfortable
Well, if my claims are unverifiable, then that implies that they are also not prone to being disproven.
And THAT implies that your claim is unverifiable.
So what was your point, at least in asking that question?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on February 21, 2007, 05:22:25 PM
in my experience the only way to make my brain more effective is to watch more tv.
because, as long as you keep doing simpler and simpler tasks all the time, it'll feel like your brain can handle anything.
although, there are symbols in this process, the "tailspin to slothitude," the "cabbage soup," and of course, the "oprah winfrey show," which may not be symbolic of anything but when you're up at 3am watching TiVo'd copies of the same episode 14 times in a row, it starts to seem like it's the only thing that comprises the entire universe.
Or so i've been told.
Well, yeah, but that's just the ILLUSION of being more effective.
ahem.
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Quote from: vexati0n on February 21, 2007, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on February 21, 2007, 05:22:25 PM
in my experience the only way to make my brain more effective is to watch more tv.
because, as long as you keep doing simpler and simpler tasks all the time, it'll feel like your brain can handle anything.
although, there are symbols in this process, the "tailspin to slothitude," the "cabbage soup," and of course, the "oprah winfrey show," which may not be symbolic of anything but when you're up at 3am watching TiVo'd copies of the same episode 14 times in a row, it starts to seem like it's the only thing that comprises the entire universe.
Or so i've been told.
Well, yeah, but that's just the ILLUSION of being more effective.
ahem.
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Hideous troofs ITT.
TGRR,
Will now feel free to slam his dick in the car door.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:27:42 PM
welcome to the land of unverifiable claims
enjoy your stay
it doesnt change much in these parts so try to get comfortable
Well, if my claims are unverifiable, then that implies that they are also not prone to being disproven.
And THAT implies that your claim is unverifiable.
So what was your point, at least in asking that question?
yeah
but see the difference is this:
im not settled in my claims
and im willing to ditch them at any given moment when something more useful comes along
im even willing to deny that i ever held a particular point of view in the past if it would prove fruitful to do so
and i definitely dont attack new shit just by virtue of it clashing with how im currently seeing things
why dismiss things without taking a good look at it?
seems retarded
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:27:42 PM
welcome to the land of unverifiable claims
enjoy your stay
it doesnt change much in these parts so try to get comfortable
Well, if my claims are unverifiable, then that implies that they are also not prone to being disproven.
And THAT implies that your claim is unverifiable.
So what was your point, at least in asking that question?
yeah
but see the difference is this:
im not settled in my claims
and im willing to ditch them at any given moment when something more useful comes along
im even willing to deny that i ever held a particular point of view in the past if it would prove fruitful to do so
and i definitely dont attack new shit just by virtue of it clashing with how im currently seeing things
why dismiss things without taking a good look at it?
seems retarded
No way dude - that's freedom :troll:
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
yeah
but see the difference is this:
im not settled in my claims
why dismiss things without taking a good look at it?
1. I am. Now, if you can come along with a better idea, I might get un-settled.
2. Because I don't need to rub my nose in dogshit to know it doesn't taste good.
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 21, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:27:42 PM
welcome to the land of unverifiable claims
enjoy your stay
it doesnt change much in these parts so try to get comfortable
Well, if my claims are unverifiable, then that implies that they are also not prone to being disproven.
And THAT implies that your claim is unverifiable.
So what was your point, at least in asking that question?
yeah
but see the difference is this:
im not settled in my claims
and im willing to ditch them at any given moment when something more useful comes along
im even willing to deny that i ever held a particular point of view in the past if it would prove fruitful to do so
and i definitely dont attack new shit just by virtue of it clashing with how im currently seeing things
why dismiss things without taking a good look at it?
seems retarded
No way dude - that's freedom  :troll:
Shut up, Slave. Bipeds are talking.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:37:43 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
yeah
but see the difference is this:
im not settled in my claims
why dismiss things without taking a good look at it?
1. I am. Now, if you can come along with a better idea, I might get un-settled.
2. Because I don't need to rub my nose in dogshit to know it doesn't taste good.
so use the dogshit for something else
everything has its place
not supposed to eat fertilizer anyway
supposed to use it to grow things
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:39:18 PM
so use the dogshit for something else
everything has its place
not supposed to eat fertilizer anyway
supposed to use it to grow things
Quit with the Yoda-isms. Did you actually have a point?
yeah
if you dont like the taste of it
maybe its because you arent supposed to eat it
figure out what it can be used for
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:42:14 PM
yeah
if you dont like the taste of it
maybe its because you arent supposed to eat it
figure out what it can be used for
Another Yodaism. Not everything has a use. Silly shit about the occult, for example.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 21, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:27:42 PM
welcome to the land of unverifiable claims
enjoy your stay
it doesnt change much in these parts so try to get comfortable
Well, if my claims are unverifiable, then that implies that they are also not prone to being disproven.
And THAT implies that your claim is unverifiable.
So what was your point, at least in asking that question?
yeah
but see the difference is this:
im not settled in my claims
and im willing to ditch them at any given moment when something more useful comes along
im even willing to deny that i ever held a particular point of view in the past if it would prove fruitful to do so
and i definitely dont attack new shit just by virtue of it clashing with how im currently seeing things
why dismiss things without taking a good look at it?
seems retarded
No way dude - that's freedom :troll:
Shut up, Slave. Bipeds are talking.
TGGR OD'd on comeback inhibitors.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:42:14 PM
yeah
if you dont like the taste of it
maybe its because you arent supposed to eat it
figure out what it can be used for
Another Yodaism. Not everything has a use. Silly shit about the occult, for example.
look man
i dont know what to tell you
you put me on to the Subgenius shit - and it led me directly to my current investigations
if you cant determine a use for it, i dont know what to say man
Law of Fives
if you wanted to make a use for it, you could find a use for it
i cant convince you out of stubborn-ness
i respect what you do
you force people to scrutinize their own perspectives and make them question whether they are standing on firm ground or not
thats necessary
but
i believe we are at a impasse
we both acknowledge the same imminent demise
you see no use for taking a look at symbols and their development
i do see a use for it
time will tell
and if that time comes, ill be more than willing to admit fault
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i respect what you do
you force people to scrutinize their own perspectives and make them question whether they are standing on firm ground or not
thats necessary
A f'kin men!
No ground is ever
that firm
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 21, 2007, 05:58:50 PM
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i respect what you do
you force people to scrutinize their own perspectives and make them question whether they are standing on firm ground or not
thats necessary
A f'kin men!
No ground is ever that firm
realistically tho -
there was no way i could have held ground in the past
ive learned (from people like Rev) not to shoot my mouth off until i can back it
and if i DO get called for talking shit - then to concede where appropriate (and do it immediately)
thats why i aint backing off on this situation
i dont give a fuck about the occult
but im also not gonna pretend like symbol manipulation isnt useful
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:47:32 PM
you put me on to the Subgenius shit - and it led me directly to my current investigations
When all else fails, blame "Bob".
It's always worked for me.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 05:47:32 PM
you put me on to the Subgenius shit - and it led me directly to my current investigations
When all else fails, blame "Bob".
It's always worked for me.
i do
and will continue to do so
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:19:50 PM(I really can't speak for Europe)
Just do it, we're mostly infected with the same virus. Theough for the life of me I still can't figure out why the French look down their noses at the rest of Europe and the US. :lulz:
Quote from: synaptyx on February 21, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 05:19:50 PM(I really can't speak for Europe)
Just do it, we're mostly infected with the same virus. Theough for the life of me I still can't figure out why the French look down their noses at the rest of Europe and the US. :lulz:
Because you are not as stinky as they are.
Quote from: LHX on February 21, 2007, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 21, 2007, 05:58:50 PM
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i respect what you do
you force people to scrutinize their own perspectives and make them question whether they are standing on firm ground or not
thats necessary
A f'kin men!
No ground is ever that firm
realistically tho -
there was no way i could have held ground in the past
ive learned (from people like Rev) not to shoot my mouth off until i can back it
and if i DO get called for talking shit - then to concede where appropriate (and do it immediately)
thats why i aint backing off on this situation
i dont give a fuck about the occult
but im also not gonna pretend like symbol manipulation isnt useful
Okay, let's run with that.
What use do you intend to get out of manipulating the symbols of losers who walk around dressed like Goths?
The very exact same thing they aint gonna get
To clarify TGRR, what are your thoughts on Jungian archetypes?
Quote from: LMNO on February 21, 2007, 06:20:30 PM
To clarify TGRR, what are your thoughts on Jungian archetypes?
No, no, I want to know what use LHX plans to get out of THIS PARTICULAR group's symbology.
Well, my point was going to be that there's a possibility that some of the Tarot symbology can be tied to archetypes. And if that's a possibility, then it's also possible to manipulate that symbology to affect people who don't know anything conciously about the symbol itself.
The only thing is, one of the few ways to figure out if a symbol might be connected to an archetype is to study the symbology.
Quote from: LMNO on February 21, 2007, 06:26:51 PM
Well, my point was going to be that there's a possibility that some of the Tarot symbology can be tied to archetypes.  And if that's a possibility, then it's also possible to manipulate that symbology to affect people who don't know anything conciously about the symbol itself.
The only thing is, one of the few ways to figure out if a symbol might be connected to an archetype is to study the symbology.
Now, how useful is THAT crap? I mean, come on. Spotting the "symbology" in tarot cards won't even get you laid at Berkeley, anymore.
And just how do you plan to affect people using tarot cards? If they're stupid enough to believe in that shit, there are plenty of easier ways to manipulate them.
I mean, seriously...who gives a FUCK if a symbol "matches an archetype"? "Archetypes" are nothing more than a means for people like Michael Moorcock, RAW, and Robert Howard to sell you the same poorly-written story 20 times.
Well, that answers that.
Quote from: LMNO on February 21, 2007, 06:34:24 PM
Well, that answers that.
I'm a nuts and bolts kinda guy.
So's Doc. I assume he found you.
Quote from: LMNO on February 21, 2007, 06:39:00 PM
So's Doc.  I assume he found you.
Yeah. One of you fuckers gave him my email addy.
Anyway, Doc will not be around much. Good talking to him, though. He was our chief operations planner in Illinois.
I didn't even know you had email. I figured you got access to this board via your prehensile anus.
Quote from: LMNO on February 21, 2007, 06:54:36 PM
I didn't even know you had email.  I figured you got access to this board via your prehensile anus.
No, I use that to smash satellites. For laughs.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2007, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 21, 2007, 06:20:30 PM
To clarify TGRR, what are your thoughts on Jungian archetypes?
No, no, I want to know what use LHX plans to get out of THIS PARTICULAR group's symbology.
i plan to get feedback
what am i trying to build?
some sort of multimedia machine
there is people here who can do things that other people cant
the style of thought here leads to good feedback
constructive building
if i can understand the limits of communication, i can do what i do better
and not be left writing shit and wondering 'why people dont get it'
i dont even like the group's symbology
i just like the implications of LMNOs metaphor that he spit one day last spring
regardless
there has been progress the past 365