(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/646/sbotdheadox9.jpg)
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/508/sbotd2jo4.jpg)
I actually really like the second one
Wow. I wish i was mildly capable of drawing that well.
Excellent job, especially on the second.
Yeah, liking the second one. Very creepy.
Are they supposed to be that dark?
LMNO
-sees dark blotches.
The first one looks like a creepy version of the PBS head. I really like the second one as everyone else has mentioned. Hopefully it would be just a touch lighter in print compared to what I see on the screen.
Please keep in mind that these will most likely be printed on commercial printers, and xeroxed heavily.
Try printing one out & making 100 copies, and see what happens to the image.
This is why I do black/white.
True. but sometimes you go heavy on the black, too.
Yeah, true. ;)
Use work printers, NEVAR do print on your own equipment if you can help it.
second one is awesome
but i agree that they should be gamma'd up a bit before they're suitable for printing on not-very-high-quality-printers
i never really liked any of Net's material and i find it to be lacking taste as well as skill
im trying to say the opposite of everything today
Quote from: LHX on February 28, 2007, 07:43:20 PM
im trying to say the opposite of everything today
You didn't quite pull it off there. :ninja:
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 28, 2007, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: LHX on February 28, 2007, 07:43:20 PM
im trying to say the opposite of everything today
You didn't quite pull it off there. :ninja:
foiled again
dam
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;id=584;type=avatar)
:mittens:
Fuck yourself?
:lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on February 28, 2007, 12:54:31 PM
Are they supposed to be that dark?
LMNO
-sees dark blotches.
Hard to say as I'm not looking at your screen. I'm dealing with a LCD, and I bet most of y'all have a CRT monitor that you've never calibrated or just prefer dark.
From the prints I have of these images, my screen is pretty accurate.
Quote from: LMNO on February 28, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
Please keep in mind that these will most likely be printed on commercial printers, and xeroxed heavily.
Try printing one out & making 100 copies, and see what happens to the image.
Commercial printing is done via offset lithography nowadays, so I wouldn't be worried in the slightest that a reputable printing company wouldn't carefully preserve the tones in my images.
I think you mean desktop printers. And in that case, it's a matter of how well people choose their paper and adjust their machines. Most inkjet printers, especially epson, are pretty decent.
If you've gotta print with hideous equipment I'll post some heavily posterized versions and possibly black and white. But unless you ask specifically for it I won't get around to it for a while.
Keep in mind that you need the high-res files to get an idea of how these print out. What I posted here are just low-res, "non-printable" jpegs. I'll try and give a better representation on your heavily black monitors here in a minute...
I want as much criticism of the first one (both for sure, but especially the second one) I can get because I'm still developing it. I definitely can see the PBS face now that you mention it, I'll take that into account.
Quote from: synaptyx on February 28, 2007, 10:38:54 PM
(http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;id=584;type=avatar)
:mittens:
Fuck yourself?
:lulz:
Close but no banana - 'fuckers' then reverse for smooth transition.
Gonna look for a 'motherfucker' tomorrow. I know there's one in there somewhere.
Here are the lighter versions that make it all washed out on my screen.
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8803/sbotdheadlightenediz7.png)
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1793/sbotdlightenedwa3.png)
Aha!
Pretty fucking awesome.
Still look like crap when I try to print them, though.
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 28, 2007, 11:42:20 PM
I want as much criticism of the first one (both for sure, but especially the second one) I can get because I'm still developing it.  I definitely can see the PBS face now that you mention it, I'll take that into account.
Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that it was a bad thing. It's just something that popped into my head when I saw the picture.
maybe copy the PBS logo and change it to BIP?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/press/2301_outreach/PBS_logo.jpg
Whoa, that's pretty big.
Ahhhh!!!! It's the attack of the 300 foot Pledge Drive!!!!
i need 9 computer monitors to see that thing
Two can play this game LMNO.
ok, ok, relax.
OFUK
POSSIBLE ORBITAL IMPLOSION ITT
Hamster taking a pipe hit for old times sake!
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 01, 2007, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 28, 2007, 11:42:20 PM
I want as much criticism of the first one (both for sure, but especially the second one) I can get because I'm still developing it. I definitely can see the PBS face now that you mention it, I'll take that into account.
Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that it was a bad thing. It's just something that popped into my head when I saw the picture.
Well, it's an association I didn't intend, so I need to work on it. It's excellent feedback, I appreciate it.
Quote from: LMNO on March 01, 2007, 12:56:48 PM
Aha!
Pretty fucking awesome.
Still look like crap when I try to print them, though.
That's because these are low-res for the computer screen, not for printing. You'll need more than twice the resolution to get a decent print of them.
I'm not going to just hand out high-resolution files of my work for anybody reading this forum to do whatever the fuck they want with. I don't have the time right now to sue people so I'm not going to put myself in a position where I'd have to do that.
If you have a specific use for them I'd be happy to hook you up with a print file. PM me.
I'll need to know specifically what you're going to use these for. Also at what size.
lol discordian lawsuits
i cant wait to see that in these forums
Quote from: LHX on March 02, 2007, 03:56:33 AM
lol discordian lawsuits
i cant wait to see that in these forums
Netaungrot,
not an assprone illustrator.
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 28, 2007, 11:42:20 PMHard to say as I'm not looking at your screen.  I'm dealing with a LCD, and I bet most of y'all have a CRT monitor that you've never calibrated or just prefer dark. 
just because i didn't believe a word you said i went out and bought myself a shiny new 19 inch TFT monitor and it turns out you're absolutely right! the pictures look crisp and clear, with good contrast (1:1400) now.
in other news, i got a new monitor YAAAAY (and about fucking time, too)
also the first one is a bit clearer now, so i can give some feedback on it: first, i'm not entirely sure what the metaphore is you're trying to depict (neither too certain with the other one, but that one looks just plain cool as it is). other than that, i think you might want to fiddle a littlebit with the "eyes", unless that's a part of the metaphore i'm missing, the look a bit weird, and if the two smaller white ovals are supposed to be shiny spots, it's not really working in a half-transparent
silhouette, IMO.
apart from that, still a cool image. heavy with symbolism, even though i don't quite "get" it.
addition: i just saw the lighter versions, i agree they are somewhat washed out. i can imagine the darker ones looking very cool in professional print though. also are the eyes perhaps meant to be some kind of streetlights attached to the telephone pole or something?
QuoteI'm not going to just hand out high-resolution files of my work for anybody reading this forum to do whatever the fuck they want with.
oh ok so these images are not for including in random pamphlets or anything, but only for the hi quality professionally printed versions of the SBOTD and perhaps a BIP book?
because afaik, any pamphlets are just going to be printed on cheap printers, and then maybe photocopied a few times, which will definitely not work with these pics, as they'll just end up as mostly dark blotches (no matter what resolution you're using, this is a gamma issue), but in that case better stick with syn's duotone style (like the squid/penis/rorschach thing you did for another pamphlet, that worked really well)
so, in anyway, seeing the washed-outness of the lighter pictures, yeah better print them high quality or not at all :)
Net wins. Enjoy the monitor.
Thanks for the feedback 000. I agree that the metaphor is vague, but if it's put into the context of the BIP or SBotD, I think it comes together.
I suppose I could work on simplifying the tones, but I imagine printing problems would still come up unless I managed a black and white.
Yes, the eye's are created by the streetlights, and I agree that it doesn't look to great in that version. I originally made them in color...
Here's what I settled on:
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/92/sbotdcoloruw9.png)
ooh nice!
the streetlight is definitely a lot clearer now. i like the man running away as well.
the small tree in the background should probably be a different shade .. i'd guess darker, but experiment with it.
the "eye" of the head looks quite different now, at first it had a sort of "mindless/drone" kind of look, now it looks sort of determined and .. cool, or something. dunno what effect you're trying to get at though.
Quote from: triple zero on March 04, 2007, 01:26:38 AM
ooh nice!
the streetlight is definitely a lot clearer now. i like the man running away as well.
the small tree in the background should probably be a different shade .. i'd guess darker, but experiment with it.
the "eye" of the head looks quite different now, at first it had a sort of "mindless/drone" kind of look, now it looks sort of determined and .. cool, or something. dunno what effect you're trying to get at though.
8)
The small tree is that color to help balance the heavy visual weight of the right.
The effect should make you feel like you're listening to Madlib's instrumental "Sickfit" off of the Madvillainy album. In terms of the metaphor, I don't know. I got stoned one day and was walking down the street and it just hit me.