can this rag-tag non-committal group of individuals come up with a way to consistently put together media that is more engaging than anything that is currently available?
if yes
then we should do so
if no
then we should prolly re-think a few things
the media and entertainment landscape is still wide open
the tools are at our fingertips
and the creativity is there...
Yes, we can make interesting things.
No, we don't have the resources for effective networking/marketing.
interesting
i wonder if we are close to having the resources
what resources are we missing? (aside from the cold hard stuff)
If we can make things interesting to the correct people, I can pull in some funding for marketing.
Srsly.
Netaungrot,
has the hook ups.
You know what would be really nice?
If we could get this site to be some sort of central networking area for Discordianism. I know, we're a decentralized lot. But one main "hub" for brainstorming and swapping workable ideas or techniques, surrounded by an outer layer of smaller groups and cabals doing their own thing, would go much further towards reaching many goals we want.
Quote from: Netaungrot on March 05, 2007, 08:43:37 PM
If we can make things interesting to the correct people, I can pull in some funding for marketing.
Srsly.
Netaungrot,
has the hook ups.
most things that are interesting happen by accident
and are only temporary
is there any way that we can subvert that?
ever since i started looking into this blog shit - i realize that people are fascinated by the strangest shit
Quote from: Cain on March 05, 2007, 08:46:34 PM
You know what would be really nice?
If we could get this site to be some sort of central networking area for Discordianism. I know, we're a decentralized lot. But one main "hub" for brainstorming and swapping workable ideas or techniques, surrounded by an outer layer of smaller groups and cabals doing their own thing, would go much further towards reaching many goals we want.
it might also work if we start making moves and let people jump on board when they perceive it to be a benefit for them
i really have no beef with band-wagon jumpers
i used to
but
i expect it now
Band wagon jumpers rock, especially when it's your band and your wagon. They're like your own little personal sycophants. Good for the ego. And if you get lucky you get to be a 'grandfather' of whatever it was you started.
I've got an idea for a publication that's prolly fairly sustainable...
There are major rifts between Discordians. These conflicts get extremely interesting. Suppose each issue focused loosely on a theme and everybody argues about it.
We could get the mahadgeueckwal, noobs, philosophical, asshat, and pineals all together to battle each other in a magazine over a particular idea. No holds barred.
I'd read it. And it would be a pretty accurate representation of where Discordia's at.
Quote from: Cain on March 05, 2007, 08:46:34 PM
You know what would be really nice?
If we could get this site to be some sort of central networking area for Discordianism. I know, we're a decentralized lot. But one main "hub" for brainstorming and swapping workable ideas or techniques, surrounded by an outer layer of smaller groups and cabals doing their own thing, would go much further towards reaching many goals we want.
Definitely. Pls see my post above...
I just did. I think its an awesome idea.
Quote from: Cain on March 05, 2007, 09:06:28 PM
I just did. I think its an awesome idea.
Bull shit - it'd never work
... oh right ... so we haven't started yet?
Quote from: Cain on March 05, 2007, 08:46:34 PM
You know what would be really nice?
If we could get this site to be some sort of central networking area for Discordianism.  I know, we're a decentralized lot.  But one main "hub" for brainstorming and swapping workable ideas or techniques, surrounded by an outer layer of smaller groups and cabals doing their own thing, would go much further towards reaching many goals we want.
Careful with this idea. This was the sort of thing I was working on with the old BIP forum and it was after I did the name change that the thing went kerplooey.
But seriously I think this is a good idea. I think if we could come up with a database of e-mail contacts then we could send out a newsletter or something with an invite to join the discourse.
Quote from: SillyCybin on March 05, 2007, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 05, 2007, 09:06:28 PM
I just did. I think its an awesome idea.
Bull shit - it'd never work
... oh right ... so we haven't started yet?
I'm going to run it by some rich hippies and get some business perspective on it.
We'll be calling it "Threadjack" or something right?
keep the following things in mind:
- non-committal
- revolving door
- bandwagon jumping
all these conventionally 'bad' business practices need to be incorporated into anything that gets proposed/suggested
there is a way to do it
Quote from: LHX on March 05, 2007, 10:24:50 PM
keep the following things in mind:
- non-committal
- revolving door
- bandwagon jumping
all these conventionally 'bad' business practices need to be incorporated into anything that gets proposed/suggested
there is a way to do it
With the format I sketched out, it would seem that those concerns could be handled pretty easily.
I'll definitely include them when I talk business though.
"Threadjack Magazine"
:lol:
A magazine that argued with itself would be fascinating. Content provided. Drama provided. Perspective provioded. What's there not to love?
I have actually read a few like that. I think it was called The Prospect...its a foreign policy debate magazine. There was a good debate on China, for example, and how to deal with Iraq...
If only we had some forums around here with an endless supply of articles and rants that would only need to be lenthened, edited, and marketed...
Yeah, it's too bad we're not, y'know, prolific writers or anything.
Yeah! A trifling 327571 posts in 9883 threads, hardly even a pamphlets worth. :eek:
Of course, 87% of those posts are either self-congratulatory bullshit, haiku, or imaginary drink orders, but still...
That's still forty two and a half thousand posts by my reckoning
well said, guys!
:mittens: :urgh: :hammer: etc
We are awesome!
we should make a magazine about how awesome we are.
i mean, we have way more material for that, nearly 300k posts
we could call it "Principia Masturbatia - or How We Found the Goddess and how AWESOME she told us we are"
Quote from: triple zero on March 06, 2007, 02:22:37 PM
we should make a magazine about how awesome we are.
i mean, we have way more material for that, nearly 300k posts
we could call it "Principia Masturbatia - or How We Found the Goddess and how AWESOME she told us we are"
We have a winner!
Quote from: hunter s.durden on March 06, 2007, 02:32:51 PMWe have a winner!
stop it with the congratulatory posts, you. i was being sarcastic.
grrrrr.
Quote from: LMNO on March 06, 2007, 02:05:51 PM
Of course, 87% of those posts are either self-congratulatory bullshit, haiku, or imaginary drink orders, but still...
Don't forget the occassional pun skirmishes.
Haiku thread should be published as-is
What kind of monthly columns would you see in a Discordian magazine?
I imagine the letters to the editor would be quite hilarious.
I think an "interview" piece would be good. Kind of in the spirit of the interviews publishined in the PD, but mixed with the flare of the Enrico Salazar show.
Quote from: triple zero on March 06, 2007, 02:38:56 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on March 06, 2007, 02:32:51 PMWe have a winner!
stop it with the congratulatory posts, you. i was being sarcastic.
grrrrr.
Your soooo right dude!
Quote from: SillyCybin on March 06, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
Haiku thread should be published as-is
We first must leak to the CIA that imbeded in the haikus is our manifesto and ultimate plan. That should keep 'em busy for a while.
PD support group
Cool idea for the Discordian factions shout-out, but I can't decide which I am out of mahadgeueckwal, noob, philosophical, asshat, and pineal. Probly a bit of everything. Also, Tim Bowen (Rev. St. Ol' Boy Floats - ohmyeris.com) is putting out a Discordian interviews book in the summer, featuring Stang/Adam Gorightly/DrJohn and a few of the more well known Internet Discordians. Might be worth talking to him.
I think we should get cracking on this. I don't know how I missed this thread the first time around, but it's a really good idea.
we are SO awesome.
We ARE awesome aren't we! :lol:
This is an extremely interesting idea. I have a smattering of HTML epxerience, a little bit of design layout ability, and I can be longwinded - probably a place in there for me 8) Whatever I can do to help out I'm game for. For a long, long time now I've just been working up to doing something that lasts, that might make a broader impact. Now I want to actually DO something that makes an impact. I'm definitely interested.
Do we want this to be something like an on-line magazine, something that's both on-line and hard copy, strictly hard copy? If it has a web component, it should include art/music/writings that aren't necessarily part of the main topic-debate focus in a separate section. Many of us have artistic leanings, and self-promotion is always a powerful draw to get people to contribute to something they might otherwise avoid.
Word up - I'm still down with this sickness.
For reference and catchup's sake, some of the discussion about this took place in the magazine thread: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11843.0 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11843.0)
working
working
working
will be bombarding PD with more bullshit on the regular re-commencing April 21, 2007
possibly even sooner
i am going to push for sooner
Quote from: SillyCybin on March 06, 2007, 02:52:51 PMHaiku thread should be published as-is
i'm working on this.
i just extracted 2261 haikus from the thread (and things that "look like a haiku") [using python regular expressions, the modern variant of "army of trained monkeys"]
the idea is to present the user/audience with, oh, say about 200 haikus per second.
subjecting them to a 10 second experience of "ultimate haiku overdose"
which will hopefully show them what sort of nonsensical line-noise the majority of haikus actually are.
(my medium will be HTML with javascript)
your public awaits with baited bears.
http://www.elvicities.com/~ananames/haiku/overload.html
about 2000 haikus, in about 10 seconds, with some japanese painting and soothing colours.
(on an elvis fansite hoster)
(tested on Opera9 and Firefox1.5)
:sadbanana: that hurt.
if i got time, and the feeling for it, i'll add motion blur :twisted: