Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Sir Perineal on March 24, 2007, 06:29:06 AM

Title: Comparing Religions
Post by: Sir Perineal on March 24, 2007, 06:29:06 AM
If Discordianism is an interpretation of Zen Buddhism, then the Church of the SubGenius is an interpretation of Taoism?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: rygD on March 24, 2007, 10:44:29 AM
Where is your evidence?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: B_M_W on March 24, 2007, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: Sir Perineal on March 24, 2007, 06:29:06 AM
If Discordianism is an interpretation of Zen Buddhism, then the Church of the SubGenius is an interpretation of Taoism?

Wasn't a discordian said to be a Taoist with an odd sense of humor and the innability to sit still?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Dr. Cow Ass on March 24, 2007, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on March 24, 2007, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: Sir Perineal on March 24, 2007, 06:29:06 AM
If Discordianism is an interpretation of Zen Buddhism, then the Church of the SubGenius is an interpretation of Taoism?

Wasn't a discordian said to be a Taoist with an odd sense of humor and the inability to sit still?

I never herd that before, but I really like it. I'm gonna start using that as the answer when someone asks me the question of our time, "What is Discordianism?"
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Idem on March 24, 2007, 11:14:45 PM
Pretty sure the CoS is to Scientology as Satanism is to Christianity.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Sir Perineal on March 25, 2007, 10:28:30 AM
Quote from: rygD on March 24, 2007, 10:44:29 AM
Where is your evidence?

To me, Discordianism is one big collection of "koans," while "Slack" is analogous to the "Tao."
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on March 26, 2007, 03:12:32 PM
All things are true in some sense, false in some sense, etc etc ad nauseum.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 26, 2007, 03:29:51 PM
"Every statement contains falsehood" - Douglas Fairbanks
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Mourning Star on March 26, 2007, 03:35:34 PM
Hmm, I know I've often seen discordianism described as "Zen for roundeyes"

Charles Manson might as well have been describing discordianism when he said "No sense, makes sense."

And as far as scientology goes... I'm still waiting for the punchline.  The corpse of L. Ron to reanimate long enough to make a speech to all of his followers and just say, "FOOLED YA!  SUCKERS!"

and I know not much stock is put into the PD, oddly enough, but this statement has always stuck with me.
Quote
"All things are true"
'Even false things?'
"Even false things are true"
'How can that be?'
"I don't know man, I didn't do it."
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 26, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
There's a lotta good stuff in the PD but that part is basically just something acid does to you.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 26, 2007, 03:55:43 PM
the inverse of "All things are true" is your average case of solipsism, and since we know from our investigations that everything equals its opposite, the statement "All things are true" is synonymous with the statement "I only exist inasmuch as you insist that I must exist," which is probably a reference to Taoism, but the relationship is a strained one.  If they are not already divorced by time and culture, Discordianism has surely filed a restraining order against Taoism, and there's probably a child custody case on the horizon, too.

Comparing Discordianism to Zen, on the other hand, is like comparing a coffee mug to a travel mug.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Triple Zero on March 26, 2007, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: Mourning Star on March 26, 2007, 03:35:34 PM
Quote
"All things are true"
'Even false things?'
"Even false things are true"
'How can that be?'
"I don't know man, I didn't do it."

i always thought that bit to be the most funniest as well.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Mourning Star on March 26, 2007, 10:31:17 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on March 26, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
There's a lotta good stuff in the PD but that part is basically just something acid does to you.

I don't know.  My views on acid always involved some level of what I THINK I am correct in describing as Microcosmic and Macrocosmic...

the idea that each and every atom that exists in every single thing is it's own universe identical to this one and that our universe is also a single atom in another part of another identical universe, and so on...  That everything that happens is happening infinitely in scales both large and small and that all events that happen repeat themselves as the universes expand to their outermost limitations, and then collapse, and then begin expanding again.  That we've all done this before, and we'll do it all again.

that was MY major acid experience...  most of the rest was just giggly shit and watching my hand make trails across the sky and shit of that nature...
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 26, 2007, 11:30:26 PM
Lucky yuo I had fucking yahweh to contend with.

Aint easy to not believe in a deity when he's sitting on the end of your bed in a grubby raincoat.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 27, 2007, 04:59:56 PM
I feel that PD was just borrowed a whole lot of things from practically every popular religions for its time, that being of christianty, Taoism, Zen, Hindu, hell, theres even elements of scientology in there.
Actually, the way I see things, CoS is an organised church, it's very comparable to christiainity and well, most types of "western" religion. (IE for profit, relies on ordained priests for people to pay attention to to "learn" something)

PD is very much more Tao based, "We must stick apart" shows this, "The highest authority is in the peniel gland" "think for yourself", Tao works with or without a "master" to teach, for masters have a habit of discoverning themselves, if they are lucky. There is no profit involved, unless you choose to flesh out elements of it in order to make a profit. The knowledge that the PD shares is supposed to be self-apparent, The knowledge that CoS shares is really just the thoughts of one man, spreading a virul meme throughout the masses.

I just find it funny though, because at the end of the day, PD and CoS are not in compitition, that is to say, there is no deep hate between each of us discos and bobbies, more like a mutual "hey lets make fun of the other fake religion" prodding going on.
Whereas, most western religions would like you to believe that theirs is the only true and real faith to follow, and will lead you to damnation if you don't follow it. our faiths say that we got the answers, if you don't believe us, we'll just laugh at you till you come around or die.

Actually, really, disregard most of what I just said.
At the end of the day, all religions are manisfestations of the Tao, but most people probably just don't get this.
"Tao" in itself is a placeholder for a concept that cannot really be named or described, for in doing so, you have already broken it down from its true shapeless form.

"Tao can be talked about, but not the Eternal Tao,
Names can be named, but no tthe eternal name

As the origin of heaven-and-earth, it is nameless:
As the mother of all things, it is nameable,

So, as ever hidden, we should look look at its inner essence:
As always manifest, we should look at its outer aspects.

These two flow from the same source, though differently named;
And both are called mysteries.

The mystery of mysteries is the door of all essence"

There are many way of looking at the world, you can choose to follow a belief system that promises you a "end goal" if you follow it properly, or you can choose to follow a belief system that's only goal is that of experiencing the journey itself, without regard to the "goal".

This is why I consider myself a discordian. No one has to tell me what it is or what to do to be a "Good" discordian, I just have some suspicions and I follow my whims.
I have friends who are sub-genii, and are really cool, we get along fine, but I personally feel I don't need to pay someone $30 just to get slack, but I'm not opposed to anyone who does, I've seen what you get for that $30 and it ain't bad really, but I can live without it.
But even when they pay their $30, some of them are still trying to figure out what slack is.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on March 27, 2007, 05:08:37 PM
I keep thinking that you're using "CoS" as "Church of Scientology".
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 27, 2007, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 27, 2007, 05:08:37 PM
I keep thinking that you're using "CoS" as "Church of Scientology".
Let it be known that CoS = Subgenius, and Co$= Scientology.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 27, 2007, 06:18:15 PM
i keep thinking Church of Satan for some reason.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 27, 2007, 06:50:49 PM
Too many churches worshipping an  S=word. They should all fight to the death in battle royale. There can only be one.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on March 27, 2007, 06:52:43 PM
The Church of Shit shall prevail.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 27, 2007, 06:54:19 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 27, 2007, 06:52:43 PM
The Church of Shit shall prevail.
already happened.

see: 400 A.D. - 1600 A.D.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on March 27, 2007, 06:56:05 PM
That makes me = Instant WINNAR.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 27, 2007, 06:58:39 PM
I knew a guy who was a member of the Church of What's Happening Now.

he wasn't a discordian so i don't think this post is relevant.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LHX on March 27, 2007, 10:37:26 PM
discordianism is neat, but it seem like Subgenius kicked it up a few notches

especially from a barstool perspective



self respect is a major part of Subgenius - it seems to be the definitive blend of eastern thought combined with western motivation


discordianism doesnt seem to have the same amount of practical application
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Idem on March 27, 2007, 10:47:36 PM
Nor is nearly as funny.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Sir Perineal on March 28, 2007, 01:18:03 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 27, 2007, 04:59:56 PM

At the end of the day, all religions are manisfestations of the Tao, but most people probably just don't get this.
"Tao" in itself is a placeholder for a concept that cannot really be named or described, for in doing so, you have already broken it down from its true shapeless form.

So .... teh Tao pwns everything else FTW?

Quote
There are many way of looking at the world, you can choose to follow a belief system that promises you a "end goal" if you follow it properly, or you can choose to follow a belief system that's only goal is that of experiencing the journey itself, without regard to the "goal".

I assume you are talking about something like Taoism?

Quote
This is why I consider myself a discordian. No one has to tell me what it is or what to do to be a "Good" discordian, I just have some suspicions and I follow my whims.
I have friends who are sub-genii, and are really cool, we get along fine, but I personally feel I don't need to pay someone $30 just to get slack, but I'm not opposed to anyone who does, I've seen what you get for that $30 and it ain't bad really, but I can live without it.
But even when they pay their $30, some of them are still trying to figure out what slack is.

I think the $30 is worth it just for the lulz alone.

Also, "the SLACK that can be talked about is not the true SLACK"  :rogpipe:
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 28, 2007, 04:36:44 AM
QuoteAt the end of the day, all religions are manisfestations of the Tao, but most people probably just don't get this.
"Tao" in itself is a placeholder for a concept that cannot really be named or described, for in doing so, you have already broken it down from its true shapeless form.


So .... teh Tao pwns everything else FTW?
Rule number 1 of Tao Club:
You do not talk about TAO CLUB
QuoteI assume you are talking about something like Taoism?
Rule number 2 of Tao Club:
You DO NOT talk about TAO CLUB.
QuoteAlso, "the SLACK that can be talked about is not the true SLACK"
That's better.


Quote from: LHX on March 27, 2007, 10:37:26 PM
discordianism is neat, but it seem like Subgenius kicked it up a few notches

especially from a barstool perspective



self respect is a major part of Subgenius - it seems to be the definitive blend of eastern thought combined with western motivation


discordianism doesnt seem to have the same amount of practical application

I *understand* what your saying, but I found that Discordianism has notched up my self respect, I'm a very confident person, didn't always used to be, in fact I had a very big lack of self respect till I discovered the Disco.
But where as Sub-genius methods are more direct in this, you basically pay for your self-respect, and if it doesn't work you blame the church, discordianism makes you find your courage for yourself, understand the world, for yourself, you only have yourself to blame if you cannot find and see it.

It's sorta like the difference between the direct route and the scenic route, I think.

Really, at the end of the day, whatever you think works best for you.
Actually, it might be a good idea to just look at all forms of weirdo worship and see which avatar seems to bring out your inner strength the most.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Sir Perineal on March 28, 2007, 05:35:46 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 28, 2007, 04:36:44 AM
QuoteAt the end of the day, all religions are manisfestations of the Tao, but most people probably just don't get this.
"Tao" in itself is a placeholder for a concept that cannot really be named or described, for in doing so, you have already broken it down from its true shapeless form.


So .... teh Tao pwns everything else FTW?
Rule number 1 of Tao Club:
You do not talk about TAO CLUB
QuoteI assume you are talking about something like Taoism?
Rule number 2 of Tao Club:
You DO NOT talk about TAO CLUB.
QuoteAlso, "the SLACK that can be talked about is not the true SLACK"
That's better.

To me, Taoism always made the most sense to as a spiritual philosophy.  That is, because it accepts that things are already as they should be.  A lot of other religions and whatnot always claim that our natural state is somehow flawed and needs correction (e.g. Original Sin in Christianity).  But with Taoism, no one is trying to argue with nature.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 28, 2007, 07:57:50 AM
Something like that.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on March 28, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
But it also implies extreme passivity and Fatalism.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Sir Perineal on March 28, 2007, 02:36:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 28, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
But it also implies extreme passivity and Fatalism.

You say that like you think it's a bad thing  :mrgreen:

But, I think Taoism is a little more optimistic than that description, although I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 28, 2007, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 28, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
But it also implies extreme passivity and Fatalism.

BING!  :mittens:
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on March 28, 2007, 03:25:13 PM
I don't want to knock too much on Taoism, though.  Its ideas of balance and flow are pretty cool, and I really like the writing style of the Tao te Ching.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 28, 2007, 03:34:44 PM
passivity and fatalism... yes. but isn't the idea that by balancing and flowing you can avoid the situations that you'd need to be non-passive? as for fatalism, any philosophy or religion that denies that has its head up its ass -- control over your situation is almost always an illusion, regardless of how much shining jewelry and/or subservient females you dominate.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on March 28, 2007, 03:38:08 PM
Didn't we already have the Free Will discussion?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 28, 2007, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 28, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
But it also implies extreme passivity and Fatalism.

What does?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 28, 2007, 03:44:42 PM
there's always a tendency to take these arguments to the extreme.

i admit i know pretty much jack-shit about the Tao. but iirc from my previous lifetimes, it has something to do with the "here and now" as opposed to some mythical idea like "some other time."  which (i think) means that control over your situation is an illusion -- not because there is something else controlling what you do or where you are, but because the point is not to engineer your reality but your perception and your attitude.

so when you're in the middle of a shitstorm you don't have a bunch of "that fucker did this to me" or, even worse, some unbearably emo moment.  you only have that you are there.

this post is trying to stay on topic but is apparently blindfolded and heading directly off-road.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 28, 2007, 06:26:27 PM
I've read more zen than I have tao and I'm more of a zen fan although there does seem to be a lot of crossover. Reason I like zen is it focusses on the lulz. Enlightenment is almost always accompanied by laughter and all the scriptures are thinly veiled mindfuck one liners.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Sir Perineal on March 28, 2007, 07:06:48 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on March 28, 2007, 03:34:44 PM
passivity and fatalism... yes. but isn't the idea that by balancing and flowing you can avoid the situations that you'd need to be non-passive? as for fatalism, any philosophy or religion that denies that has its head up its ass -- control over your situation is almost always an illusion, regardless of how much shining jewelry and/or subservient females you dominate.

yes, I don't think "wei wu-wei" or "action through non-action" necesarily means being passive all the time.  Instead, when you do things, you should finish your task, but then not dwell on it.  Also, they say you aren't supposed to desire, but rather be content.  So if you are truly content and accept the world, then you have nothing to desire and you won't have to engage in superfluous action.

:mittens: for your comment on fatalism
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 28, 2007, 09:22:24 PM
Quote from: Sir Perineal on March 24, 2007, 06:29:06 AM
If Discordianism is an interpretation of Zen Buddhism, then the Church of the SubGenius is an interpretation of Taoism?

No.

You dumbshit.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Mourning Star on March 29, 2007, 05:24:58 AM
I hereby call for a vote of toolboxery on this fread...

...

Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 29, 2007, 06:01:26 AM
Quote from: Mourning Star on March 29, 2007, 05:24:58 AM
I hereby call for a vote of toolboxery on this fread...

...



way too early for that.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: B_M_W on March 29, 2007, 06:14:11 AM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on March 24, 2007, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on March 24, 2007, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: Sir Perineal on March 24, 2007, 06:29:06 AM
If Discordianism is an interpretation of Zen Buddhism, then the Church of the SubGenius is an interpretation of Taoism?

Wasn't a discordian said to be a Taoist with an odd sense of humor and the inability to sit still?

I never herd that before, but I really like it. I'm gonna start using that as the answer when someone asks me the question of our time, "What is Discordianism?"

AFAIK its actually one of the lines in the PD.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: B_M_W on March 29, 2007, 06:18:27 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 28, 2007, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 28, 2007, 01:16:27 PM
But it also implies extreme passivity and Fatalism.

What does?

Reffering to the yielding and inaction part of it. And I agree with LMNO, I really like the Tao Teh Ching, but some of it is just not good enough for me.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 29, 2007, 08:18:03 AM
See, I think each of us interprets the tao differently. In fact, the very fact that were talking about it most likely shows that we haven't really grasped it, but we like to think we do. Oh the irony in trying to explain the Tao.

I don't know about the whole "passivity" thing, I mean, the Art of War is based on the Tao, that sure ain't hell about being passive to the enemy.

And the whole fatalism thing, I don't know where in the Tao it implies being fatalistic. I've never felt myself to be more in control of my destiny then since discovering Tao.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2007, 08:20:03 AM
The Church has "Bob".  Does Taoism have "Bob"?

I didn't think so.

So just shut up.  All of you.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 29, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2007, 08:20:03 AM
The Church has "Bob".  Does Taoism have "Bob"?

I didn't think so.

So just shut up.  All of you.

You didn't give us a chance to answer.

In short, yes, Tao does not have "Bob". But "Bob" has Tao.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 29, 2007, 09:24:14 AM


In short, yes, Tao does not have "Bob". But "Bob" has Tao.

Actually, he's about as anti-Tao as you can possibly get.

"Middle of the road" my ass...The only thing about "Bob" that's middle of the road is the hoodpiece on his Toronado, while he's drunkenly driving back to the motel with Suzy Rottencrotch.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Triple Zero on March 29, 2007, 10:56:22 AM
so, Tao Te Ching is a good readable book? guess i'm gonna have to get it then

's probably somewhere cheap in a 2nd hand bookstore

any tips on which translation to pick?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 29, 2007, 11:10:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 29, 2007, 09:24:14 AM


In short, yes, Tao does not have "Bob". But "Bob" has Tao.

Actually, he's about as anti-Tao as you can possibly get.

"Middle of the road" my ass...The only thing about "Bob" that's middle of the road is the hoodpiece on his Toronado, while he's drunkenly driving back to the motel with Suzy Rottencrotch.
Ok Rog, you win. Bob is Anti-Tao :roll:
Quote from: triple zero on March 29, 2007, 10:56:22 AM
so, Tao Te Ching is a good readable book? guess i'm gonna have to get it then

's probably somewhere cheap in a 2nd hand bookstore

any tips on which translation to pick?
Yeah, it's a decent read, there are heaps of versions on the internet, I personally have a copy translated by John C. H. Wu, not one of my favourate translations though.
I'm not going to give you a "recommendation" as to which translator to get, they all see the Tao in their own way, due to it's ambigious nature as well, it translates slightly differently depending on the translator. None of them are neccessarily wrong, but sometimes I have to wonder if certain translations are really what the Lao Tsu had in mind if he were to ever translate it to english.

I say, go read a few different versions, it's not a long read, its like 81 chapters, each chapter a page long, not even that actually, you could read it in about an hour, max.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Sir Perineal on March 29, 2007, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 29, 2007, 09:24:14 AM


In short, yes, Tao does not have "Bob". But "Bob" has Tao.

Actually, he's about as anti-Tao as you can possibly get.

"Middle of the road" my ass...The only thing about "Bob" that's middle of the road is the hoodpiece on his Toronado, while he's drunkenly driving back to the motel with Suzy Rottencrotch.

Isn't "Bob's" Path of Least Resistance,Ñ¢ very similar to Taoism's "wu-wei"?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: B_M_W on March 29, 2007, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: triple zero on March 29, 2007, 10:56:22 AM
so, Tao Te Ching is a good readable book? guess i'm gonna have to get it then

's probably somewhere cheap in a 2nd hand bookstore

any tips on which translation to pick?

I like the old line yutang translation, personally.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 30, 2007, 05:29:27 AM
how the fuck has lysergic's post count leaped ahead of mine by like 200?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Thurnez Isa on March 30, 2007, 05:30:27 AM
200 posts being flamed
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on March 30, 2007, 05:33:27 AM
fucking numbers.

i always knew they had it in for me.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 30, 2007, 07:06:09 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on March 30, 2007, 05:29:27 AM
how the fuck has lysergic's post count leaped ahead of mine by like 200?
Good Sir, I do believe its because the quality of my posts are very shallow and little.
Your posts have much more thought put into them, and therefore are of quality.

and yeah, 200 posts being flamed :D
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2007, 07:25:20 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 29, 2007, 11:10:38 AM
Bob is Anti-Tao

Thank you.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 30, 2007, 07:26:53 AM
Quote from: Sir Perineal on March 29, 2007, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 29, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 29, 2007, 09:24:14 AM


In short, yes, Tao does not have "Bob". But "Bob" has Tao.

Actually, he's about as anti-Tao as you can possibly get.

"Middle of the road" my ass...The only thing about "Bob" that's middle of the road is the hoodpiece on his Toronado, while he's drunkenly driving back to the motel with Suzy Rottencrotch.

Isn't "Bob's" Path of Least Resistance,Ñ¢ very similar to Taoism's "wu-wei"?

No.  "Bob's" path of Least Intelligence,Ñ¢ relies on tilting the luck plane.

Taoism can't do that. 
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: rygD on March 31, 2007, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on March 30, 2007, 05:29:27 AM
how the fuck has lysergic's post count leaped ahead of mine by like 200?

I think this happened because you have a life outside of the internets.  Shame on you.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on March 31, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
Hey, I have a life outside the internet :cry:.
I just happen to find this one of the most interesting places on the net I've ever been to. Fuck, I prefer posting here then feeding my wow addiction. I seriously have stopped playing wow ever since I started posting here.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2007, 09:36:52 PM
Quote from: rygD on March 31, 2007, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on March 30, 2007, 05:29:27 AM
how the fuck has lysergic's post count leaped ahead of mine by like 200?

I think this happened because you have a life outside of the internets.  Shame on you.

this is false. i may have an existence outside the internets, but calling it a "Life" is giving me too much credit.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 02, 2007, 02:29:46 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 31, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
Hey, I have a life outside the internet :cry:.
I just happen to find this one of the most interesting places on the net I've ever been to. Fuck, I prefer posting here then feeding my wow addiction. I seriously have stopped playing wow ever since I started posting here.

You've traded one computer generated addiction for a graphically inferior version of the same.

Kill yourself.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 02, 2007, 03:58:09 AM
Quote from: SillyCybin on April 02, 2007, 02:29:46 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 31, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
Hey, I have a life outside the internet :cry:.
I just happen to find this one of the most interesting places on the net I've ever been to. Fuck, I prefer posting here then feeding my wow addiction. I seriously have stopped playing wow ever since I started posting here.

You've traded one computer generated addiction for a graphically inferior version of the same.

Kill yourself.

Well, at least here he doesn't have to attend virtual weddings*.


* since Tao and EvT flounced.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2007, 02:56:57 PM
The CotSG is Discordianism as interpretated via Illumunatus!, plus flying saucers, mind powers and "Bob", minus ancient Greek goddesses, chaos and mere interdimensonal conspiracies*.  Think of it this way: Discordianism = rip off of Zen and Taoism with beatnik/hippie/70s counterculture undertones.  CotSG is a funny  Scientology rip-off, but with an 80s counterculture undertone.  And they did an aewsome job in pre-empting the UFO hype of the late 80s and 90s too.

*I have Ivan Stang saying as much (recorded even, more fool him).
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 02, 2007, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 02, 2007, 02:56:57 PM
The CotSG is Discordianism as interpretated via Illumunatus!, plus flying saucers, mind powers and "Bob", minus ancient Greek goddesses, chaos and mere interdimensonal conspiracies*.  Think of it this way: Discordianism = rip off of Zen and Taoism with beatnik/hippie/70s counterculture undertones.  CotSG is a funny  Scientology rip-off, but with an 80s counterculture undertone.  And they did an aewsome job in pre-empting the UFO hype of the late 80s and 90s too.

*I have Ivan Stang saying as much (recorded even, more fool him).

Stang is a genius.  Too bad he's such a moron.

TGRR,
Has no time for the "tragically hip".  Especially the ones that warned against being "tragically hip".
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2007, 08:15:33 PM
Yeah.  Credit where credit is due, the guy is damn smart and creative as hell.  Its just a shame he wont use it anymore.

Apparently, he didn't know Discordianism was even real until after he created Phamphlet 1 and 2. :lulz:
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 02, 2007, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 02, 2007, 08:15:33 PM
Yeah.  Credit where credit is due, the guy is damn smart and creative as hell.  Its just a shame he wont use it anymore.

Apparently, he didn't know Discordianism was even real until after he created Phamphlet 1 and 2. :lulz:

Oh, he uses it.  Catch the Hour of Slack on streaming radio.  It's either dumb as fuck or better than listening to Carlos Mencia doing Gandhi imitations.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2007, 08:32:36 PM
Ah.  As you can see, I never listen to Hour of Slack.  I probably should.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on April 02, 2007, 08:34:51 PM
YOu can podcast it, I think.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2007, 08:36:33 PM
Yeah.  I probably should.  Though with Out There and Open Source radio, my comp is getting real low on space.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Mourning Star on April 03, 2007, 02:11:51 AM
Quote from: SillyCybin on April 02, 2007, 02:29:46 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 31, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
Hey, I have a life outside the internet :cry:.
I just happen to find this one of the most interesting places on the net I've ever been to. Fuck, I prefer posting here then feeding my wow addiction. I seriously have stopped playing wow ever since I started posting here.

You've traded one computer generated addiction for a graphically inferior version of the same.

Kill yourself.

Both of these e-drugs have been out of my system for days, fucking visiting relatives of my Fiance' and idiotic lab partners at uni making my life HELL!

KILL ME!
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Triple Zero on April 03, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 02, 2007, 02:56:57 PMThe CotSG is Discordianism as interpretated via Illumunatus!, plus flying saucers, mind powers and "Bob", minus ancient Greek goddesses, chaos and mere interdimensonal conspiracies*.  Think of it this way: Discordianism = rip off of Zen and Taoism with beatnik/hippie/70s counterculture undertones.  CotSG is a funny  Scientology rip-off, but with an 80s counterculture undertone.  And they did an aewsome job in pre-empting the UFO hype of the late 80s and 90s too.

hm then what are we, on this board?

cause we don't really fit any of these descriptions.

probably gonna be called "neodiscordians" in a decade or so

(either that, or be completely forgotten)
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Lies on April 03, 2007, 11:31:13 AM
We are the collection of "whatever it is we are" who happen to have a taste in the teachings of discordianism, I suppose?
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cain on April 03, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
Of course, I just massively simplified a very complex set of concepts into a sentence, so resemblance to reality may be slight.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cramulus on April 03, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
When I read the word Neo-Discordians I immediately thought of the 1950s version of the future - you know, art deco, cars with fins, ray guns, sun glasses, etc. Everything works on atomic power and radar. We should start that cabal. It'll be out of this world!
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 03, 2007, 03:26:53 PM
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/neodiscordianism.jpg)
                                      SRSLY!
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: LMNO on April 03, 2007, 03:32:19 PM
Needs a "Srsly."
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: hunter s.durden on April 03, 2007, 03:33:59 PM
Bah:

(http://morte.martin-gunz.com/filmbilder/scifi/matrix4.jpg)
Neodiscordians: We can totally do this move.
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cramulus on April 03, 2007, 03:36:54 PM
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/bin/Primal-Matrix_Keanu.jpg)
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on April 03, 2007, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on April 03, 2007, 03:33:59 PM
Bah:

(http://morte.martin-gunz.com/filmbilder/scifi/matrix4.jpg)
Neodiscordians: We can totally do this move.

(http://gauntlets.org/gauntlets/photo/gauntlets.gif)
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Mourning Star on April 03, 2007, 11:21:57 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on April 03, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
When I read the word Neo-Discordians I immediately thought of the 1950s version of the future - you know, art deco, cars with fins, ray guns, sun glasses, etc. Everything works on atomic power and radar. We should start that cabal. It'll be out of this world!

You may enjoy the William Gibson short story "The Gernsback Continuum" it's in the book "Burning Chrome"
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Cramulus on April 03, 2007, 11:52:23 PM
funny you should mention that - it's exactly what I was thinking of when I typed the above.

Get out of my brain, jerk ass!
Title: Re: Comparing Religions
Post by: Mourning Star on April 05, 2007, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on April 03, 2007, 11:52:23 PM
funny you should mention that - it's exactly what I was thinking of when I typed the above.

Get out of my brain, jerk ass!

fuck no.  it's colourful in here, BTW, while I'm in here, it's time to twist a few ganglia...

you're now thinking about t3h pr0nz!