got buckets of shit nobody wants but dishing out anyway
people watch because its more fascinating than what is otherwise seen
the allure of natural disasters
storms
violence
these things that nobody calls good
but relentlessly fascinating
pull
a naked woman has less pull than a woman in lingerie
and this is true for very specific and identifiable reasons
killing motherfuckers mostly by letting them kill themselves
watch as they flock toward a pestilence
this thing they seek - where is it exactly?
these things that everybody 'knows' yet cannot demonstrate
demonstrate
looking people in the eye and speaking
producing a series of written text on demand
skeleton + skin roaming a planet communicating with like objects
nothing more - but more importantly - nothing less
there are things we dont know
there are things that are unknowable
we will know the things that are knowable
we will determine a boundary beyond which the unknowable exists
sloppiness is old fashioned
those who commit themselves to planning yet are timid to action will be run over
there are certain achievements that are not celebrated
according to the universal justice system - the only people allowed to criticize are those who are committed to assisting that which they criticize
there exist beings on this planet who will trip you up at every opportunity they get
- they do such things as pointing out inadequacies but stopping short at offering solutions
these beings want your attention
and their desire for your attention is endless
a bottomless pit
relentlessly hungry
some suggest it is only curable by lava
others suggest that it may be curable by dedication and effort piled on effort
pay no attention to those beings and situations which provide you with no nourishment in return
unless you are paying attention to it in order to destroy it
if anybody needs me ill be in the trenches using every tool i can get my hands on
there are people who will fuck your ass up if you dont move correctly
and if you havent met them yet
you will meet them soon
Peace
lhx bringing it. rah.
Quote from: LHX on April 12, 2007, 02:24:39 PMthere are things we dont know
there are things that are unknowable
we will know the things that are knowable
we will determine a boundary beyond which the unknowable exists
i have good reason to believe that these boundaries themselves are part of the unknowable, so they cannot be determined.
weird and counterintuitive as fuck, but that's reality for ya
peace ;-)
Quote from: triple zero on April 12, 2007, 04:30:44 PM
i have good reason to believe that these boundaries themselves are part of the unknowable, so they cannot be determined.
So what are these good reasons? :)
In principle I could keep asking questions (like 'why?' or 'how?'). As long as I can answer these questions, I have not reached the boundary, as soon as I can't answer them (or I fail to ask a new question), I have reached the boundary.
The only problem arises if the number of questions is infinite, but that is imo equivalent to saying that there is no boundary.
as you very well know, Bo, you can have a boundary that is both infinite and still encompasses a finite space :)
anyway, yes, you can keep asking questions, and you will arrive at some point where you cannot answer them anymore, probably, but then you have found one part of the boundary.
maybe i should have been more clear, i think there are certain parts of this boundary that are unknowable, so the entire boundary is impossible to determine.
Quote from: triple zero on April 12, 2007, 05:18:57 PM
maybe i should have been more clear, i think there are certain parts of this boundary that are unknowable, so the entire boundary is impossible to determine.
mwkay i can accept that, but still I would like to hear the good reasons you have for this statement :)
Quote from: Bo on April 12, 2007, 05:25:12 PM
Quote from: triple zero on April 12, 2007, 05:18:57 PM
maybe i should have been more clear, i think there are certain parts of this boundary that are unknowable, so the entire boundary is impossible to determine.
mwkay i can accept that, but still I would like to hear the good reasons you have for this statement :)
Every microscopic crevice of a barstool is unknowable.
Is the barstool unknowable?
Quote from: saint aini on April 12, 2007, 05:35:41 PM
Quote from: Bo on April 12, 2007, 05:25:12 PM
Quote from: triple zero on April 12, 2007, 05:18:57 PM
maybe i should have been more clear, i think there are certain parts of this boundary that are unknowable, so the entire boundary is impossible to determine.
mwkay i can accept that, but still I would like to hear the good reasons you have for this statement :)
Every microscopic crevice of a barstool is unknowable.
Is the barstool unknowable?
It sure hurts when someone throws it at my head.
:barstool:
i just seems logical :) i cannot present you with a rockhard proof or anything, but it would involve a construction with one of those turing machines about which it is unknowable whether it terminates or not, and then somehow construct out of that some sort of theorem about which it is unknowable to find out whether it's knowable or not. that would be a piece of the boundary you cannot determine.
P=NP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexity_classes_P_and_NP) comes to mind, but i don't think it is known or proven whether it even can be proved or not, so in this case, for the future, i couldn't say, but i really wouldn't hold my breath for it :)
also, i think the people with the barstools are right and we are currently nitpicking :) sorry i started it :)