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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: Cain on April 12, 2007, 02:52:49 PM

Title: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2007, 02:52:49 PM
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/neophile.html

The unprecedented growth of the World Wide Web signals the emergence of new forms of communication in the so called Age of Information. Social groups are reevaluating the manners in which they conduct relationships and form organizations. Religions are no exception. Many faiths have online sites where members and nonmembers can gather facts about the group's beliefs, history, and locations of worship. Groups utilize electronic forms of communication like e-mail or newsgroups that bridge the distance between members. Audience cults, a term used by Stark and Bainbridge in The Future of Religion, are dispersed, unorganized religious groups. Three will be the focus of this paper: Discordianism, the Church of the SubGenius, and the cults of Cthulhu. I have attempted to show that the 'members' of these groups are actively involved in the construction of the World Wide Web. Due to their intimate affinity for the computer interface and lack of interest in traditional organization, these audience cults are better categorized as neophilic irreligions, diffuse groups of individuals committed to chaos and the unfamiliar that find meaning in supernatural forces embedded in parodies of conventional faiths. These irreligions construct social space and provide meaning for, instead of retreating from, the confusion and unpredictability so rampant in cyber communication. These groups provide members with ultimate meaning and general compensators that are in tandem to what the Web, and more generally, the Information Age, is all about.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: LMNO on April 12, 2007, 02:56:45 PM
We = 1337 h4XXX0rz!
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cramulus on April 12, 2007, 03:23:04 PM
I love that paper, if only because it opens by interviewing Hal Phillips, my old roommate. Oddly enough we lived together in college for like four months before we discovered eachother's neophilic irreligions.

One day I was stapling photocopies of the PD to the wall. Hal came downstairs and said "fuckwaaaad, you're a Discordian too?"

then he kicked a hole in the sheet rock
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2007, 03:25:03 PM
 :lulz:

I'm formatting it for my blog, currently.  Its so big and well written, it deserves to go in my Special Reports area.  And I emailed it to Spiritualforums or whatever they are called.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2007, 04:29:06 PM
Hal just commented on the paper.  Apparently its all bullshit, half the quotes are not his and the other half are him joking.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cramulus on April 12, 2007, 04:43:54 PM
*snicker*

he always was pretty evasive in talking about that paper
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2007, 04:45:47 PM
He doesn't think much of the writer, either.  I told him I was discussing it with you. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cramulus on April 12, 2007, 04:49:21 PM
you're talking to Hal?


Hal and I often exchange cell-phone pictures of our poops. Later today when I take one, I'll cell-phone snapshot it and send it to him. I reccommend you-all do the same. Ask and I'll PM you his cell phone number.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2007, 04:51:53 PM
Well, he left a comment and I replied.  He has yet to reply back, though I hope he does.

I wont send him a pic though.  My rates are already horrible, internationally they will bleed me dry.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: LMNO on April 12, 2007, 04:58:43 PM
I like how your reason is financial, not because, you know, it's a picture of your own shit.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 12, 2007, 05:04:34 PM
Since when has that mattered?  Monkeys are prone to flinging their poo.  Since humans are far more civilized, we send pics instead.

Ah, progress.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cramulus on April 12, 2007, 07:32:20 PM
NEWS UPDATE: just sent Hal a poomp pic. I know you guys were all waiting to hear how that went. Well it went swimmingly.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Penumbral on April 13, 2007, 02:23:42 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 12, 2007, 02:52:49 PMThese groups provide members with ultimate meaning

We do?
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Jasper on April 13, 2007, 05:31:34 AM
We provide bullshit.  Which is, as any spirituality proves, is just as good.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 13, 2007, 05:34:08 AM
Quote from: Felix Mackay on April 13, 2007, 05:31:34 AM
We provide bullshit.  Which is, as any spirituality proves, is just as good.
-300 points for painting a picture of the Holy Mother using 169% cow pies.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Jasper on April 13, 2007, 05:46:54 AM
I'd pay money to see that.

Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2007, 10:12:30 AM
Quote from: Penumbral on April 13, 2007, 02:23:42 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 12, 2007, 02:52:49 PMThese groups provide members with ultimate meaning

We do?

Yeah, that was news to me, as well.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on April 13, 2007, 10:32:55 PM
Discordia point blank refuses to provide the seeker with answers.

This is why I'd rank discordia as one of the few valid religions on the face of the planet.

Answers = Very bad
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 17, 2007, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on April 13, 2007, 10:32:55 PM
Discordia point blank refuses to provide the seeker with answers.

This is why I'd rank discordia as one of the few valid religions on the face of the planet.

Answers = Very bad

the other one, of course, being Scientology.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Jasper on April 21, 2007, 02:17:59 AM
You know what'd be a fun jake?  Dress up as scientologist prosetylizers and sit around with a homemade electrical device and shock people as proof of your vague theories about souls.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Ambassador KAOS on May 14, 2007, 11:18:40 AM
 :mittens:
one of the better posts over all.  I'd like to see this sticked.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Hal Phillips on April 02, 2008, 10:40:45 PM
I looked up the old Usenet post from 1996, and I actually DID say all the stuff the guy quoted, and probably just assumed that I hadn't because I underestimated how great I am.

But the writer is still a douchebag and still didn't know what he was talking about.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cramulus on April 02, 2008, 10:50:46 PM
HAL PHILLIPS!
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Jenne on April 03, 2008, 12:13:42 AM
Aw, he missed your poomp!
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Requia ☣ on April 03, 2008, 01:02:52 AM
Anybody have a copy of the article?  Seems to missing.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Payne on April 03, 2008, 01:13:20 AM
Quote from: Ambassador KAOS on May 14, 2007, 11:18:40 AM
:mittens:
one of the better posts over all.  I'd like to see this sticked.

This is quite possibly good enough reason to not want to read the thread. So I won't.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Triple Zero on April 03, 2008, 08:47:51 AM
Quote from: Hal Phillips on April 02, 2008, 10:40:45 PM
I looked up the old Usenet post from 1996, and I actually DID say all the stuff the guy quoted, and probably just assumed that I hadn't because I underestimated how great I am.

But the writer is still a douchebag and still didn't know what he was talking about.

hey is this the HAL PHILLIPS i heard so much about?

also, now i gotta re-check that neophilic irreligion article. cause i think i read it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy back before i even really knew about discordianism, i thought it was just some usenet trolling bullshit, because of the subgenius references on alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk (that i read for a short while, amused by its randomness, realized i had fuck all idea what was going on and went back to my home comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos :) )
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on April 03, 2008, 12:59:28 PM
http://episkoposcain.blogspot.com/2007/04/neophilic-irreligions.html

Hi Hal!
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Kurt Christ on April 18, 2008, 04:40:43 AM
Is it bad that, no matter how many times I check this forum and see this thread, I always read its title as "Necrophilic Irreligions" and think Eww...Oh, that's not what it says at all. EVERY SINGLE TIME!
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on April 18, 2008, 04:52:41 AM
it's okay. i always read it as "Neolithic Irreligions."
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: LMNO on April 18, 2008, 01:44:48 PM
I see it as "Neophallic Irreligions," and I've decided I like it better that way.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 20, 2008, 03:44:00 AM
Quote from: LMNO on April 18, 2008, 01:44:48 PM
I see it as "Neophallic Irreligions," and I've decided I like it better that way.

Fair enough, but I'm having trouble comprehending exactly what a "Neophallus" is.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Kurt Christ on April 20, 2008, 03:59:57 AM
Quote from: Cainad on April 20, 2008, 03:44:00 AM
Quote from: LMNO on April 18, 2008, 01:44:48 PM
I see it as "Neophallic Irreligions," and I've decided I like it better that way.

Fair enough, but I'm having trouble comprehending exactly what a "Neophallus" is.
Maybe this will help you:
http://www.headinjurytheater.com/article59.htm
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on April 20, 2008, 04:01:26 AM
Ah yes, how could I have forgotten?
Thanks, Space Pope! :lulz:
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Hal Phillips on August 07, 2008, 10:07:57 PM
snakes
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: fomenter on August 07, 2008, 10:21:21 PM
neophallic  irrigation does not sound fun...
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: fomenter on August 07, 2008, 10:34:44 PM
Quote from: fnord mote eris on August 07, 2008, 10:21:21 PM
neophallic  irrigation does not sound fun...

it sounds like a procedure done after a sex change on a patent with a bad post op infection "i am sorry sir we are going to have to do a neophallic  irrigation"
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Hal Phillips on September 10, 2010, 10:25:14 AM
HAL PHILLIPS POWER
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Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Cain on September 10, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
I see your Hal Phillips power does not extend to correct BB code usage. :sad:
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on September 10, 2010, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
I see your Hal Phillips power does not extend to correct BB code usage. :sad:
:lulz:
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on September 11, 2010, 03:26:10 AM
Quote from: Vartox on April 18, 2008, 04:40:43 AM
Is it bad that, no matter how many times I check this forum and see this thread, I always read its title as "Necrophilic Irreligions" and think Eww...Oh, that's not what it says at all. EVERY SINGLE TIME!
Fuck I thought thats what it did say until you pointed it out.
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 18, 2010, 03:50:00 AM
Who is Hal Philips? /shot
Title: Re: Neophilic Irreligions
Post by: Don Coyote on September 18, 2010, 07:03:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 10, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
I see your Hal Phillips power does not extend to correct BB code usage. :sad:

I've noticed that stringing too much BB code together tends to die on PD.com

Otherwise there would have WAY MOARER scrolling purple text last month.