http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003681580_essay26.html
Without comment.
Actually, this is worse than censorship.
It's "thoughtcrime".
Some legal experts said the charge against Allen Lee is troubling because it was over an essay that even police admit contained no direct threats against anyone at the school.
He had the wrong thoughts. He is now being prosecuted by the law.
It makes my blood run cold.
:roll:
I'm not surprised this happened, to be completely honest. However I think the teacher took the wrong course of action. Typically if they feel disturbed by a student's writing, I think they should obviously have an intimate conference with the parents and the student and probably a guidance councelor/social worker, rather than automatically bring the authorities into it assuming that, because of recent events, disturbing creative writer = murderer.
If that's the case, Stephen King and Anne Rice better be incarcerated YESTERDAY.
Quote from: Kaou Suu on April 27, 2007, 09:42:13 PM
:roll:
I'm not surprised this happened, to be completely honest. However I think the teacher took the wrong course of action. Typically if they feel disturbed by a student's writing, I think they should obviously have an intimate conference with the parents and the student and probably a guidance councelor/social worker, rather than automatically bring the authorities into it assuming that, because of recent events, disturbing creative writer = murderer.
If that's the case, Stephen King and Anne Rice better be incarcerated YESTERDAY.
The funniest assholes in this situation were the cops.
They'd last about 30 seconds in our squadroom.
Straight "A" student, huh?
To pull those grade you need to either be a rote zombie or repressing SOMETHING.
Emotion was assigned, emotion was recieved. Akin to being supprised when a dog locked ina car on a hot day wants fresh air.
-R
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 27, 2007, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: Kaou Suu on April 27, 2007, 09:42:13 PM
:roll:
I'm not surprised this happened, to be completely honest. However I think the teacher took the wrong course of action. Typically if they feel disturbed by a student's writing, I think they should obviously have an intimate conference with the parents and the student and probably a guidance councelor/social worker, rather than automatically bring the authorities into it assuming that, because of recent events, disturbing creative writer = murderer.
If that's the case, Stephen King and Anne Rice better be incarcerated YESTERDAY.
The funniest assholes in this situation were the cops.
They'd last about 30 seconds in our squadroom.
"We didn't think anything was threatening, but the teacher said it was bad so..." *cuffs*
Quote from: Richter on April 27, 2007, 09:49:12 PM
Straight "A" student, huh?
To pull those grade you need to either be a rote zombie or repressing SOMETHING.
What did you just say about my kid?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 27, 2007, 09:52:24 PM
Quote from: Richter on April 27, 2007, 09:49:12 PM
Straight "A" student, huh?
To pull those grade you need to either be a rote zombie or repressing SOMETHING.
What did you just say about my kid?
Public schools, per my own run, were none to easy on the brain.
(Well, I did generalize and all. Fire at will, sir.)
-R
Really, dude? I was a mediocre student, but only because I didn't feel like working for a good mark.
Good grades aren't a bad sign, good behavior is.
I broke a kid's jaw in middle school yet I had a cumulative GPA of 3.7. What does that make me?
Quote from: Kaou Suu on April 28, 2007, 12:39:59 AM
I broke a kid's jaw in middle school yet I had a cumulative GPA of 3.7. What does that make me?
A 40 YEAR OLD FAT GUY!
Quote from: Kaou Suu on April 28, 2007, 12:39:59 AM
I broke a kid's jaw in middle school yet I had a cumulative GPA of 3.7. What does that make me?
Smarter and more manly than me. :/
I'd be interested in reading the essay.
But regardless of what it states, being arrested for something like this is scary.
I can understand, maybe being pulled aside and talked to by the teacher maybe, but arrested for writing: :eek:
The essay:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/361573,042707lee.article
Thank you.
*goes to read it*
Having read the assignment, and the kid's work, there is only one (1) possible solution here.
The kid was set up. The teacher is looking for attention, and so assigned this (right after VT) and then waited to freak out over the most imaginative response.
Have the teacher arrested.
The paper seemed more political than anything else to me.
Meh...arrested for writing, wtf is going on anymore?
Quote from: maphdet on April 28, 2007, 01:54:39 AM
The paper seemed more political than anything else to me.
Meh...arrested for writing, wtf is going on anymore?
Welcome to the post-American century.
The guy sounds like someone I'd be friends with. I can tell he's got intelligence and sincerity.
It's a tarp.
I think the kid would fit in here. The teacher was obviously just pissed at being slammed.
Teacher goes to jail.
Kid gets an A.
In a perfect world.
And it gets more dangerous and obvious every day, doesn't it? Good thing Bill Maher isn't there. He'd get the death sentence.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2007, 01:50:52 AM
Having read the assignment, and the kid's work, there is only one (1) possible solution here.
The kid was set up. The teacher is looking for attention, and so assigned this (right after VT) and then waited to freak out over the most imaginative response.
Have the teacher arrested.
Its like after Columbine. Every teacher who has a student they hate now has the near perfect excuse to fuck their life up, if they are imaginative enough. Classic Con style action, once the panic has set in and the powers are there, turn every level of society against each other.
I'm just glad nothing like this has ever happened in the UK, because I know I'd be damn near the top of any such list at my school, despite my grades, and no amount of protest from the teachers who did like me would have saved me.
Of course, we've already lived with thought crime in this country for a couple of years. If you openly support Pakistan's claim to Kashmir (like most of the UK Pakistan population) then you are by definition glorifying terrorism. Same with the Chechen right of resistance against Russia, the Tamils against Sri Lanka and so on. There are certain caveats, but in essence that is all that is needed for you to be arrested and held, in theory up to 3 weeks. And once the terror label gets slapped on a thought-crime, all critical processes in the media immediately shut down.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 28, 2007, 12:46:28 AM
Quote from: Kaou Suu on April 28, 2007, 12:39:59 AM
I broke a kid's jaw in middle school yet I had a cumulative GPA of 3.7. What does that make me?
A 40 YEAR OLD FAT GUY!
:mrgreen:
I dealt with a similar BS in my own highschool, so beg pardon for bitterness.
Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2007, 12:15:52 PM
Its like after Columbine. Every teacher who has a student they hate now has the near perfect excuse to fuck their life up, if they are imaginative enough. Classic Con style action, once the panic has set in and the powers are there, turn every level of society against each other.
Good point, and this goes for students as well. If they put that bug in the right teacher / admin's ear, it's gauranteed calls to the police, and as you said, no turning back once it's started.
Paranoia and fear can be healthy, but I'm thinking too much makes people into their own terrorists.
-R
I just read it...
That kid is a fucking genius. He obviously knew he was being set up and took advantage of it in light of recent events to piss off his teacher. More power to him also with that afterword in the article.
....HE SHOULD BE IN HIMEOBS!
I thought HIMEOBS didn't exist. 8)
:lulz:
If it doesn't, it makes the post all the moar funnier.
HIMEOBS exists according to the Voodoo Principletm
HIMEOBS only exists if you believe they do
However, the moment you believe they do, even if you so much as entertain the possibility, just for sake of argument, they can kill you!
I don't believe in HIMEOBS
it's an urban legend created by the liberal media
Try saying it three times in the mirror and see how long you can keep that 'happy idiot' attitude going, sunshine :evil:
Those two articles make me smile. FAIL FTW.
Shit like this gives the conspiracy theorists more fuel.
I'm just waiting for the right theory bandwagon to jump on!
I hope the cat at least got a decent grade on it.
- D
This kinda shit ain't new by a loooong shot. Zero-tolerance gets tightened up a notch when school shootings happen. Then the lassitude sets in again. This kid probably could've caught a clue his ass would be in a sling, but he obviously weighed the risks and decided to go for it.
Honorary asshat, that one.