hie, i m very new to this
i was wondering where i could get a copy of the Principia Discordia from? i m broke and sorry if warez is not permitted here, but was wondering if anyone knows where i can get it online on PDF format?
ive seen the prcinpiadiscordia.com website, but its only on HTML format, and i cant print it. thats why i m looking for the full PDF format.
thank you for your time
http://www.poee.co.uk/web/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=16
Of course while you're at POEE there's loads of other Discordia in PDF format that you'll be able to print out. Gotta collect em all.
After you finish reading it, let us know what you think!
thank you all for replying,
well its gonna be difficult for me to tell you what i think, since i dont know, its been difficult to think recently, Nothing is true, everything is permitted. heheh, sorry didnt mean to sound like a snob, i think i more of a nOOb.
the only reason i m reading discordia, well i dont know, i ve been reading alot of Chaos magic and sumhow i discoverd discordia,
does anyone in here practice chaos magic? if so, is reading the princip discordia gonna be usefull in chaos magic?
once again i apologise for these ridiculos questions, i m just lost!
thank you all!
- L e x -
Hey Lex,
I'm as nOOb-y as anyone can be, but can you tell us what you mean when you say "its been difficult to think recently". This is important, because from the little I know about Chaos Magic, and the PD, they may not be the things that will sort you out if you think you're "lost".
I'm not sure what you mean, but I get a feeling that some meditation mixed with some discussion with someone who knows a bit about NLP or CBT might be better at this point. Don't know enough to really say. Tell us more.
hi, id gladly explain, ive been reading alot of recently, tons on the occult and philosophy and all that, when i say i cant think, its becuz i cant believe anything anymore, and now i cant even read much anymore, cuz i dont believe it either, i dont know, i know i need help, but i dont trust help, i dont trust myself, i am in a very screwd up posistion now.
i dont like to eat but i hunger all the time, i want to quit smoking, but i m addicted but i hate smoking, i m trying to practice the taoist art of not doing, but i m worried that i m using that as an excuse to sleep all day and night and be lazy. i dont know what to make of anything. everything is meaningless and everything flat, i feel sorta dead.
i cant make sense outta anything. ive been meaning to post about this on several forums, but didnt think it was worth the while. its even funny, but not funny. see i just cant think, i end up in circles.
i apologise for whining and bitching like this.
thats the best i can do, i will add on later, if i know how.
p.s. what is the NLP or CBT???
Quote from: rivetrenuck on June 05, 2007, 09:14:27 AM
hi, id gladly explain, ive been reading alot of recently, tons on the occult and philosophy and all that, when i say i cant think, its becuz i cant believe anything anymore, and now i cant even read much anymore, cuz i dont believe it either, i dont know, i know i need help, but i dont trust help, i dont trust myself, i am in a very screwd up posistion now.
Happens to the best of us. Don't sweat it - it'll pass.
You're looking for an answer, right? An explanation that'll make sense of everything? Newsflash - there aint one, and anyone who says different is fucking with your head, prolly for commercial gain.
You'll get over this stage by just plain accepting it.
Enjoy...
to be honest, i dont think i m looking for an answer, cuz i know i wont believe it,
its more like i m hoping to get run down, or get blown up into the atmosphere, sorry i m not making fun of anything, although it is all very funny, but yeah.
thank you, for your words
- L e x -
humor is important. Seriously.
Hey Lex.
A lot of us think Chaos Magick is kind of silly. Just letting you know that straight up.
Secondly, if you don't believe in anything anymore, that's cool. What that means is you can use what's probably the best approach for the moment, and then discard it when you don't need it anymore.
But I have a feeling, that instead of that kind of Ultimate Agnosticism, you're actually, really really confused. That's cool, too. A lot of us are. Feel free to post your thoughts, at least one of us will take the time to read & comment on it.
Just try to disregard the flames.
To me, it sounds like you're stuck in the Black Iron Prison (http://blackironprison.com)
as for Chaos Magic - I used to be into sigils, servitors, and dream divinations. In the long run, however, I found I had more luck / success if I just enacted the change I was seeking through more mundane means.
NLP stands for neuro-linguistic-programming. As I understand it it's about rewiring how you perceive the universe using language and meaning. I recommend reading Robert Anton Wilson's Prometheus Rising - there's a link in the library section - I'll dig it up if you can't find it.
CBT stands for cock and ball torture. In the right context and with the right partner, it's really hot stuff.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on June 05, 2007, 05:55:07 PM
To me, it sounds like you're stuck in the Black Iron Prison (http://blackironprison.com)
as for Chaos Magic - I used to be into sigils, servitors, and dream divinations. In the long run, however, I found I had more luck / success if I just enacted the change I was seeking through more mundane means.
NLP stands for neuro-linguistic-programming. As I understand it it's about rewiring how you perceive the universe using language and meaning. I recommend reading Robert Anton Wilson's Prometheus Rising - there's a link in the library section - I'll dig it up if you can't find it.
CBT stands for cock and ball torture. In the right context and with the right partner, it's really hot stuff.
It's posts like these that, for me, really underline what I love about this site.
If I had found this place during teh long dark teatime of my soul shit would have been a whole lot easier.
i m posting one of my thoughts, hehe that is although ive never actually read any of Robert Anton Wilsons books, but ive read alot of his articles, seen all his videos, heard his spoken word albums, and i would say that yeah, some of it is preety cool but the rest is almost like his just getting off of pronouncing himself. i dont like the way he potrays himself as an intelect, i dont like it when he plays the good boy and all that, yeah he has made alot of good points, my favourite that ive come across is that the Atomic Bomb is natural, otherwise it wouldnt be possible, that was awesome!
but essentialy i dont really think he is really worth it, infact i sorta despise the guy,
i m sorry, i know i shouldnt plagiarise like this, espicialy cuz i havent read his books and also since i have not read much of discordian literature. this is just a opinion, and please correct me where i am wrong.
seeing as you have already been pointed to the Black Iron Prison stuff, i'd say you could get a fairly good idea for what you'd hope to find in discordian literature by reading (your personal favourite selection of) The Good Reverend Roger's rants in the Or Kill Me subforum.
I think some his later stuff (TSOG especially) was pretty much done to get the cash. And I don't like how many of New Falcon's authors basically rim each other on reviews all the time, making it impossible to tell if anything they produce is decent, until its in your hands.
Illuminatus! is worth a read, just so you know whats in it (http://kamita.com/misc/illuminatus/illuminatus.html), but really its his psychology stuff thats worth it. Anything else can pretty much be heard anywhere else, if you know where to look.
Cram: "CBT stands for cock and ball torture. In the right context and with the right partner, it's really hot stuff."
You bastard! :lulz:
Sorry, Rivet, I was being a bit of a nanny at the time. The others gave good advice. Get a laugh, somehow. For some reason, Monty Python or Peter Sellers spring to mind, even if you've already seen them a hundred times.
Take two of each and call a random number out of the phone book in the morning.
Quantum Psychology and Prometheus Rising are pretty much the only two RAW books you need. The rest are just oblique commentary on those two books.
many have recommended Prometheus Rising,
i dont mean to be an cheap skate, but are there online texts? hehehe
thank you all for replying
Check the Library subforum. Might be there.
yep, use the forum search option, i'm not gonna look it up again.
it was somewhere for download at rawilsonfans.com or something