if you make a child grow in a woman's belly, make arrangements
failure to nurture a seed that you plant will result in negative repercussions for yourself personally
it is prolly best to approach the situation as a team
respect the woman
do what you can to provide a fertile environment that will allow everybody involved to thrive
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:20:08 AM
if you make a child grow in a woman's belly, make arrangements
failure to nurture a seed that you plant will result in negative repercussions for yourself personally
it is prolly best to approach the situation as a team
respect the woman
do what you can to provide a fertile environment that will allow everybody involved to thrive
Kicking her in the gut is NOT an acceptable alternative. Unless you live in Kentucky or Tennessee.
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:20:08 AM
if you make a child grow in a woman's belly, make arrangements
failure to nurture a seed that you plant will result in negative repercussions for yourself personally
it is prolly best to approach the situation as a team
respect the woman
do what you can to provide a fertile environment that will allow everybody involved to thrive
well said. For when a child is thrust into an environment that is a giant ball of stress, suck, and fail, then that child has already been presented with a Mt. Everest to climb.
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:20:08 AM
if you make a child grow in a woman's belly, make arrangements
failure to nurture a seed that you plant will result in negative repercussions for yourself personally
it is prolly best to approach the situation as a team
respect the woman
do what you can to provide a fertile environment that will allow everybody involved to thrive
I perfer a team of women, but women aren't always team players.
LDS, ITT.
I think I'll start calling you "Mitt".
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u289/PayneAlpha/fatherhood.jpg)
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2007, 02:57:50 PM
LDS, ITT.
I think I'll start calling you "Mitt".
Like a catcher's mitt?
LDS = Latter Day Saints
Mitt = Romney
Yes, I know.
I just find catcher's mitts a whole lot more funny them my former governor.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 25, 2007, 02:23:41 PM
well said. For when a child is thrust into an environment that is a giant ball of stress, suck, and fail, then that child has already been presented with a Mt. Everest to climb.
Hmm. What planet do you live on? I live on a giant ball of stress.
Stress is life. If there is no stress, you have died.
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 25, 2007, 02:23:41 PM
well said. For when a child is thrust into an environment that is a giant ball of stress, suck, and fail, then that child has already been presented with a Mt. Everest to climb.
Hmm. What planet do you live on? I live on a giant ball of stress.
Stress is life. If there is no stress, you have died.
Umm, I said a "giant ball of stress, suck and fail," Yes, of course, there is always stress. I'm talking about when a child is thrust into an environment that is beyond the base-level stress, combined with suck and fail which would be bad parents and a bad home environment. There is a difference between the sort of stress that is caused by not being able to tie one's shoe and, "oh no if I drop the spoon again my Mommy's gonna beat the crap out of me."
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 27, 2007, 09:39:12 PM
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 25, 2007, 02:23:41 PM
well said. For when a child is thrust into an environment that is a giant ball of stress, suck, and fail, then that child has already been presented with a Mt. Everest to climb.
Hmm. What planet do you live on? I live on a giant ball of stress.
Stress is life. If there is no stress, you have died.
Umm, I said a "giant ball of stress, suck and fail," Yes, of course, there is always stress. I'm talking about when a child is thrust into an environment that is beyond the base-level stress, combined with suck and fail which would be bad parents and a bad home environment. There is a difference between the sort of stress that is caused by not being able to tie one's shoe and, "oh no if I drop the spoon again my Mommy's gonna beat the crap out of me."
Hmm. I recognize no such difference. How do you determine "base-level stress?" Should people who live (for example) in Iraq or the occupied West Bank/Gaza never father children, in your opinion?
If the worst thing that ever happened to you is not being able to tie your shoe, that's a significant, perhaps crippling, stressor.
Conversely, when a small child gets a tiny little cut, what would be a meaningless scratch to an adult, the stress level is similar to an adult getting a very deep one that requires stitches.
When someone screams, and tells you they are in pain, never fret about degree, or what it may
seem. Those are your illusions. Most people do not lie about these sorts of things. You have to believe in the pain.
I'm not going to be a dick and say that therefore it's a good idea to beat your children so the "little things" won't hurt them as badly, however. I agree that a parent must provide some level of consistency, however, that consistency is a lie as sure as Santa Claus.
As a parent, I see it as my job to provide enough truth so as not to cripple my children, and enough lies so that they may have a chance of surviving the truth.
It is not an easy job, and it is absolutely one that takes planning and arrangement.
Quote from: The Lamanite on June 26, 2007, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: LHX on June 25, 2007, 05:20:08 AM
if you make a child grow in a woman's belly, make arrangements
failure to nurture a seed that you plant will result in negative repercussions for yourself personally
it is prolly best to approach the situation as a team
respect the woman
do what you can to provide a fertile environment that will allow everybody involved to thrive
I perfer a team of women, but women aren't always team players.
Shut up.
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 25, 2007, 02:23:41 PM
well said. For when a child is thrust into an environment that is a giant ball of stress, suck, and fail, then that child has already been presented with a Mt. Everest to climb.
Hmm. What planet do you live on? I live on a giant ball of stress.
Stress is life. If there is no stress, you have died.
You lack Slack,Ñ¢, Jack.
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 11:00:26 PM
Hmm. I recognize no such difference. How do you determine "base-level stress?" Should people who live (for example) in Iraq or the occupied West Bank/Gaza never father children, in your opinion?
No humans ANYWHERE should father children.
Fucking humans!
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 11:00:26 PM
Hmm. I recognize no such difference. How do you determine "base-level stress?" Should people who live (for example) in Iraq or the occupied West Bank/Gaza never father children, in your opinion?
You are obviously missing the point. I'm talking about the environment the parents create, not the environment that the world creates that is out of the parents' hands. Thus why I gave the example of a parent beating a child just because they dropped a spoon. "Base-level stress" is obviously going to be different in different situations. No, of course people in the West Bank/Gaza, Iraq, Kosovo, North Korea, etc., etc. should be able to have children. I am talking about what the parents can control, the home environment.
QuoteIf the worst thing that ever happened to you is not being able to tie your shoe, that's a significant, perhaps crippling, stressor.
Where did I say that was the worst thing to happen to a child? It was an example to contrast with the example of a clumsy child about to get pummeled by an impatient, piece-of-crap Parent.
QuoteConversely, when a small child gets a tiny little cut, what would be a meaningless scratch to an adult, the stress level is similar to an adult getting a very deep one that requires stitches.
When someone screams, and tells you they are in pain, never fret about degree, or what it may seem. Those are your illusions. Most people do not lie about these sorts of things. You have to believe in the pain.
Okay, I'm not quite sure what you are trying to get at with this. I have a daughter thank you very much and understand the theories of relativity when it comes to child rearing.
QuoteI'm not going to be a dick and say that therefore it's a good idea to beat your children so the "little things" won't hurt them as badly, however. I agree that a parent must provide some level of consistency, however, that consistency is a lie as sure as Santa Claus.
How is the consistency a lie? Please expand upon this.
QuoteAs a parent, I see it as my job to provide enough truth so as not to cripple my children, and enough lies so that they may have a chance of surviving the truth.
It is not an easy job, and it is absolutely one that takes planning and arrangement.
Correct. And when you have a couple of dopes who are smart enough to put peg A in hole B but not smart enough to plan the rest of it out, you get suckage and failure and a kid who already has the deck stacked against him.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 28, 2007, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 11:00:26 PM
Hmm. I recognize no such difference. How do you determine "base-level stress?" Should people who live (for example) in Iraq or the occupied West Bank/Gaza never father children, in your opinion?
You are obviously missing the point.
I am
willfully missing the point. :evil:
Quote
I'm talking about the environment the parents create, not the environment that the world creates that is out of the parents' hands. Thus why I gave the example of a parent beating a child just because they dropped a spoon.
I've never heard of this practice. Beat
with a spoon, sure. Beat because they bent a spoon, sure.
Bent it with telepathy? Sure. Beaten telepathically.
Corporal punishment for
dropping spoons seems a little silly. Did this happen to
you?
Only time I ever got smacked was for mouthing off. As you can see it was little deterrent. If smacking kids
worked, I would be all for it.
QuoteQuoteWhen someone screams, and tells you they are in pain, never fret about degree, or what it may seem. Those are your illusions. Most people do not lie about these sorts of things. You have to believe in the pain.
Okay, I'm not quite sure what you are trying to get at with this.
Has your kid
ever thrown a temper tantrum because of something you did? What on earth did you think was going on? We all hurt our kids. We have to.
QuoteI have a daughter thank you very much and understand the theories of relativity when it comes to child rearing.
Ahh. So, what happened to her as she approached the speed of light?
QuoteQuoteI'm not going to be a dick and say that therefore it's a good idea to beat your children so the "little things" won't hurt them as badly, however. I agree that a parent must provide some level of consistency, however, that consistency is a lie as sure as Santa Claus.
How is the consistency a lie? Please expand upon this.
Consult your pineal gland.
QuoteQuoteAs a parent, I see it as my job to provide enough truth so as not to cripple my children, and enough lies so that they may have a chance of surviving the truth.
It is not an easy job, and it is absolutely one that takes planning and arrangement.
Correct. And when you have a couple of dopes who are smart enough to put peg A in hole B but not smart enough to plan the rest of it out, you get suckage and failure and a kid who already has the deck stacked against him.
No. Then it's an abortion, even if they choose to have the kid.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 11:00:26 PM
Hmm. I recognize no such difference. How do you determine "base-level stress?" Should people who live (for example) in Iraq or the occupied West Bank/Gaza never father children, in your opinion?
No humans ANYWHERE should father children.
Fucking humans!
How human of you.
Unless, of course, by "suckage" you mean abortion.
Keep suckage legal.
Roger's my dad, so he's a little bitter.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 08:57:03 AM
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 09:32:20 PM
Hmm. What planet do you live on? I live on a giant ball of stress.
Stress is life. If there is no stress, you have died.
You lack Slack,Ñ¢, Jack.
What is that? And where can I get it?
Quote from: Torodung on June 29, 2007, 07:41:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 11:00:26 PM
Hmm. I recognize no such difference. How do you determine "base-level stress?" Should people who live (for example) in Iraq or the occupied West Bank/Gaza never father children, in your opinion?
No humans ANYWHERE should father children.
Fucking humans!
How human of you.
Shut it, jackass.
Quote from: Torodung on June 29, 2007, 07:50:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 08:57:03 AM
Quote from: Torodung on June 27, 2007, 09:32:20 PM
Hmm. What planet do you live on? I live on a giant ball of stress.
Stress is life. If there is no stress, you have died.
You lack Slack,Ñ¢, Jack.
What is that? And where can I get it?
If you have to ask, you'll never understand the answer.
Quote from: Torodung on June 29, 2007, 07:33:29 AM
Consult your pineal gland.
You just went on the fail heap.
Consult my what?