Ever have a job you love? Well, hope it works out for you.
Any job, whether it be listening to the world's best music, or banging the prettiest supermodels will always be what the name says. A Job.
This job will, without fail, bore you. No matter how much of a sleazy penchant you have for the subject matter, it will be dull, dreary, and have just enough draw to keep you coming back (paycheck, occasional moment's of interest, WTF ever else).
Let's try another tack: get a job you HATE.
We all have to work and do something unless we're wealthy already, or taking off for the woods to live (read: die soon) "with nature". So why burn yourself out on subject matter you actually like just for the sake of the money?
I'd recommend a good cubicle farm for this little venture, (make sure it's harm free, and make sure the HR group can be counted on to strike of the gonads of those who would trample on yours.) Do your thing. Make the money. Go home.
Home will suddenly be the greatest thing in your life. Your family, friends and whatever else you have there will SHINE in the glorious light of That-Which-Is-Not-Work. Savor and appreciate this, friend. Leave the bitterness of work away from what you have outside. Get your lulz wherever you can, but make your slack count by comparison with the rest of life!
I raise my beer to you, sir!
I'd like to add my share, though, being that you make sure that you make the rest of your life worthy of the shine in comparison.
You can come home from the job you hate every day and sit on a couch watching TV and getting stoned. Go to sleep. Go to work the next day and think "What'd I DO with myself? ...Eh, well, at least it was better than work."
No. Every fucking second that you are not being force-fed misery, cram those seconds full of goodness, otherwise you only deserve that misery. Make your time of freedom worth it, or else you are just another cog. Don't just look at That-Which-Is-Not-Work as better than work, but see it as an opportunity to really make up for all this wasted time of misery. Make the dichotomy between the two as dramatic as possible, and it will be Good.
you all got it wrong
most jobs are just an oppertunity to have some fun with the public
Initially, when he brought this idea to me, I told him that if you get a job you hate, chances are it'll evolve to you liking it, which will defeat the purpose. Much like getting the job you like that turns into a job you hate...
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 05:37:04 PM
Don't just look at That-Which-Is-Not-Work as better than work, but see it as an opportunity to really make up for all this wasted time of misery. Make the dichotomy between the two as dramatic as possible, and it will be Good.
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on June 26, 2007, 05:39:51 PM
you all got it wrong
most jobs are just an oppertunity to have some fun with the public
"Get your lulz where you can", was kind of meant to cover this, and being shown the spareness of my point is appreciated. Still, I hope those who are inclined to just sit around stoned and drunk will do so. It will keep them out of my way when I'm trying to do stuff.
Quote from: Kaou Suu on June 26, 2007, 05:43:54 PM
Initially, when he brought this idea to me, I told him that if you get a job you hate, chances are it'll evolve to you liking it, which will defeat the purpose. Much like getting the job you like that turns into a job you hate...
Will let you know when / if this happens. (Rather not get on a personal experience kick.)
I disagree with the basic premise of this. If you get a job you love, chances are is that it won't become "just a job" to you. And, if you're not a dumbass, you will still be able to enjoy being home. There's no need to force unpleasantness on yourself in an effort to make the pleasant parts of life seem better.
Quote from: Richter on June 26, 2007, 05:53:05 PM
Still, I hope those who are inclined to just sit around stoned and drunk will do so. It will keep them out of my way when I'm trying to do stuff.
Fair enough. Perhaps it is just my age/class demographic that is making it hard to encounter people who don't prefer to do that. :sad:
FACT: Richter never really has had a job he liked. The last one was a doozy. This one is getting worse by the day. Especially Mondays.
Quote from: Kaou Suu on June 26, 2007, 06:27:15 PM
FACT: Richter never really has had a job he liked. The last one was a doozy. This one is getting worse by the day. Especially Mondays.
I hear you, Richter. PREPARE FOR AWESOME THAT-WHICH-IS-NOT-WORK WHEN WE ARRIVE IN JULY BWAHAHAHA INVASION FORCE OF DOOM
Sad truth: The job I enjoyed most was my high school/college job, working at a coffee house.
-DC
Sassed the customers :D
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 26, 2007, 06:30:58 PM
I hear you, Richter. PREPARE FOR AWESOME THAT-WHICH-IS-NOT-WORK WHEN WE ARRIVE IN JULY BWAHAHAHA INVASION FORCE OF DOOM
Sad truth: The job I enjoyed most was my high school/college job, working at a coffee house.
-DC
Sassed the customers :D
I had excellent college jobs also. Taught sailing and was a camp counselor. Those were jobs I liked, but they did wear on me after a bit. I'm trying to stay of the "This happened to me" horse, and focus on ideas.
(-R, may just be an ADD slacker)
The invasion will be eagerly awaited...
The Littlest Ubermensch has it right, IMO.
And, nothing wrong with getting stoned and drunk. It's the sitting around part I don't care for.
Being twisted doesn't preclude doing stuff, unless you're lazy to begin with.
Quote from: Doktor_Fistula on June 26, 2007, 07:18:23 PM
The Littlest Ubermensch has it right, IMO.
And, nothing wrong with getting stoned and drunk. It's the sitting around part I don't care for.
Being twisted doesn't preclude doing stuff, unless you're lazy to begin with.
Okay, that's fair. I will give you that.
In my personal experience, getting stoned tends to make people vegetate, but that might just be the people I'm around. Too many people in my age bracket are still too young to know their limits on drinking, so instead of being fun drunks, they are obnoxious drunks. Not all, but enough to make it a pain sometimes.
You are very correct, though. I just tend to generalize sometimes. :oops:
Richter, it's a noble goal to avoid the "in my experience" trap, but it seems awfully hard to do. If you manage to pull it off, I will salute you. And then you'll have the experience of being saluted in your arsenal of secrets!
I totally understand where you're coming from.
I'm a big stoner, and every time I smoke pot with people, I'm like "hey, lets go do this, it'll be fun!" and they're (most of them, at least) like "no, lets stay here."
It is my opinion that pot doesn't make people lazy, it gives them an excuse to be lazy.
I think it's a mix. Because I know when I smoke, I react pretty badly--I get seriously knocked on my ass, have no energy, no ability to concentrate, nothing.
Needless to say, I basically never smoke anymore. It's just a stupid decision for me.
But there are some people who use it as an excuse, or who just keep smoking until they've maxed out their body so much that it does end up having that effect. And that's silly. If you keep your functionality about you, then it's all good as far as I'm concerned!
Maybe, but I've been smoking daily since I was 14 and haven't gotten like that.
I dunno, I know some folks who don't smoke much, but are fine when they're high, and some who smoke like I do but get retarded when they blaze. It really just depends.
To each his own, though, that's my motto (sometimes.)
To be honest, I blame the higher concentration of THC in pot these days. When all I could find was swag, I could smoke a joint, have a beer, and then go fuck shit up on the streets.
Now, I take one hit, and I'm REALLY FUCKING STONED.
LMNO
-doesn't smoke much anymore.
Huh, maybe it's my tolerance then, cuz schwag just gives me headaches.
On the other hand, give me a bottle of scotch, and I'm ready to tear shit up.
Mmmm, scotch.
Jaeger is my drink, personally, but scotch is a wonderful thing.
Quote from: Doktor_Fistula on June 26, 2007, 07:32:43 PM
I totally understand where you're coming from.
I'm a big stoner, and every time I smoke pot with people, I'm like "hey, lets go do this, it'll be fun!" and they're (most of them, at least) like "no, lets stay here."
It is my opinion that pot doesn't make people lazy, it gives them an excuse to be lazy.
On the (now rare) times I get stoned, I always go out and do stuff. I like adventures.
Drinking is what usually makes me want to sit and veg out. Though that does depend on what form the alcohol takes.
True. Tequilla puts fight in me, whereas beer puts throw up in me.
Cept Guiness.
I tend to end up in hospital with bad/crazy injuries when I drink Pernod.
When I drink beer, I usually end up at my computer desk all night and into the morning.
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2007, 07:41:10 PM
To be honest, I blame the higher concentration of THC in pot these days. When all I could find was swag, I could smoke a joint, have a beer, and then go fuck shit up on the streets.
Now, I take one hit, and I'm REALLY FUCKING STONED.
LMNO
-doesn't smoke much anymore.
It could be your tolerance as well. I used to smoke a lot up until about 4-5 years ago, then stopped. I took one hit within the past year and I was gone...And fucking giggly as hell.
I cannot offer any insights on the chemical tangent of this thread (believe it or not this is one Discordian who's never smoked pot or cigarettes).
However I did want to comment on the OP. Namely because I've done both. I coined the term Retail Hell(tm) because working in retail was exactly that, hell. Yes, it did make me appreciate my home and family life, but I could still be a miserable bastard on particularily bad days (like say during the Holidaze). Thankfully, the asswads in the Company I used to work for decided to downsize and eliminate my position, thus kicking my ass in gear to apply for my current job and finish my Master's degree, which is actually related to my current job. I love my new job. I also still love my family and I still love going home to them. I haven't enjoyed it any less since getting a job I love in fact, I think it has enhanced it. My wife recently just landed a new job with a new company, and she is really excited about it. And I've noticed she is much, much happier lately because of it.
Sure, someone could easily let a job they love run them into the ground, but it doesn't HAVE to be that way. It's a matter of perspective. You make out of a situation that which you want to make out of it. There are always options. Some are easier then others. Some are more or less obvious then others. But, I relate it back to the BIP concepts. the more you open up your mind to possibilities, the more you will have to entertain.
i, for one, fully intend on getting a job i like.
on purpose getting a job i don't like, spending 1/3 of my time doing something i don't like, so i'll enjoy the rest more???? that's just crazy.
if that's the way you look at it, i think you need to change your attitude towards life, not your job.
1/3?
Optimist.
He's Dutch. They have LAWS about that kind of thing...
Fucking Europeans and their "quality of life." I call shenanigans! :evilmad:
waitaminute .. 40 hours a week isn't even one third, i forgot to count the weekends
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 27, 2007, 05:04:29 PM
Fucking Europeans and their "quality of life." I call shenanigans! :evilmad:
Not just the Europeans, its damn good in Australia too. Work week is 37.5 hours, less people, more bennies, universal healthcare ... and koalas ... but here's a hot tip, no one here actually drinks that Foster's crap.
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2007, 07:41:10 PM
To be honest, I blame the higher concentration of THC in pot these days. When all I could find was swag, I could smoke a joint, have a beer, and then go fuck shit up on the streets.
Now, I take one hit, and I'm REALLY FUCKING STONED.
LMNO
-doesn't smoke much anymore.
The CoN approves of drugs that fuck you up too much to for you to do anything.
Bah!
The CoN engenders the idea that drugs should fuck you up to much to do anything.
Half the time, it's not even the drugs that do it.
It's people being retarded and assuming that that's what the drug does.
Quote from: Doktor_Fistula on June 28, 2007, 09:10:22 AM
Bah!
The CoN engenders the idea that drugs should fuck you up to much to do anything.
Half the time, it's not even the drugs that do it.
It's people being retarded and assuming that that's what the drug does.
Um. Yeah. You go ahead and get a head full of crank, and tell me that again.
Quote from: Doktor_Fistula on June 28, 2007, 09:10:22 AM.
Half the time, it's not even the drugs that do it.
It's people being retarded and assuming that that's what the drug does.
:lulz:
well a medicine student friend of mine *did* tell me yesterday that "research has pointed out that" on average the placebo effect accounts for 60% of medicine/drugs (esp pills) taken.
(no i don't have any sources for this :) also it's on average, we quickly figured that the percentage must be much lower with the anticonception pill, and probably higher with stuff like painkillers and such)
Other factors play in sometimes that we don't fully account for. Most headaches are caused by dehydration, for example. You take an asprin with a glass of water, and the pain goes away.
Scientific method can be tricky, in that the labor required to track a factor often excludes tracking of others.
On OP: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007305500628.gif (http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007305500628.gif)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
The CoN approves of drugs that fuck you up too much to for you to do anything.
169%
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 02:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 28, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
The CoN approves of drugs that fuck you up too much to for you to do anything.
169%
I will add 31% to this so we can have a full 200% rating here.
Quote from: triple zero on June 28, 2007, 10:50:44 AM
well a medicine student friend of mine *did* tell me yesterday that "research has pointed out that" on average the placebo effect accounts for 60% of medicine/drugs (esp pills) taken.
(no i don't have any sources for this :) also it's on average, we quickly figured that the percentage must be much lower with the anticonception pill, and probably higher with stuff like painkillers and such)
Here's the thing--even if it IS "the placebo effect," it's still having that effect. And it's the effect that matters in the end.
I don't care what the REASON you're doing nothing is, the point remains that you're doing nothing (I speak in generalized you, for the record, not targeting anyone in specific). And the placebo effect can be just as powerful as actual drugs, I think. So whether or not it's the drugs themselves that are making people just be zombies, they are just being zombies, and that's no good.
A postulate: In this sense, TV is a literal drug.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate: In this sense, TV is a literal drug.
Actually, according to current brain research, it actually is. Because it can trigger the same dopamine responses that chemical drugs do. This is one of the reasons for limiting TV viewing in children. Not the content, just the actual viewing itself. Also video games. It kind of taps into that immediate gratification sort of reaction that one gets from using drugs. The more exposure a child has to that kind of dopamine response, the more pre-disposed they will be to seeking out other ways to get that response as they get older. You pair that with a teenagers natural instinct to take risks and challenge boundaries and then you get kids looking for more False Slack.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 28, 2007, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate: In this sense, TV is a literal drug.
Actually, according to current brain research, it actually is. Because it can trigger the same dopamine responses that chemical drugs do. This is one of the reasons for limiting TV viewing in children. Not the content, just the actual viewing itself. Also video games. It kind of taps into that immediate gratification sort of reaction that one gets from using drugs. The more exposure a child has to that kind of dopamine response, the more pre-disposed they will be to seeking out other ways to get that response as they get older. You pair that with a teenagers natural instinct to take risks and challenge boundaries and then you get kids looking for more False Slack.
Even without RWHN's very interesting response, I would've agreed with that comment.
I personally hate TV. I don't own one and my parents wouldn't let me watch it growing up until I was in late middle/early high school. As a result, I learned to live without it and I'm happy about it. There is no such thing as "Must see TV." TV is just another way to waste your brain and your time and your emotions. People become more tied up in their TV shows than they do in real life. Sitting in front of the fucking TV becomes the best way to spend an evening, more appealing than actually interacting with real people oh heaven forbid!
Plus there's the advertisements, and TV shows are yet another method of sending social programming and norms into one's brain. Gender roles, acceptable morality, etc, all of these things are programmed into us via TV broadcasts.
Say no to TV if you want to program your own brain!
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate: In this sense, TV is a literal drug.
everything is a literal drug. Thats why 'drug' is such a stupid fucking word, the war on drugs is a stupid fucking war, the prohibition of drugs .....
Shaddap, pariah.
NO! Yuo shaddap! ...You ..You NON PARIAH!
Quote from: SillyCybin on June 28, 2007, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 03:46:55 PM
A postulate: In this sense, TV is a literal drug.
everything is a literal drug. Thats why 'drug' is such a stupid fucking word, the war on drugs is a stupid fucking war, the prohibition of drugs .....
I'll give you that.
But that doesn't change the fact that TV is freaking EEEEVIL.
It's simply another way of stimulating the chemistry in your brain.
There's good shit and there's bad shit.
Use it or abuse it.
People seem to want to push a whole bunch of agendas at me.
Watching them try can be amusing.
See, I am very volatile, so when people try to push agendas at me and I particularly dislike them, I get angry and violent. It can be dangerous to be in the same room with me and a TV if something I particularly despise is on. :lol:
EDIT Although I think it's probably funny for all observers involved!
I'm sending you a stack of Coulter DVD's.
She has DVDs?
http://www.anncoulterstore.com/default.cfm
:vom:
Yeah, I ain't clicking on that.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 28, 2007, 04:51:04 PM
I'll give you that.
But that doesn't change the fact that TV is freaking EEEEVIL.
Truth. It's hardly tollerable anymore. Even the History channel has failed me.
I love the tangents this threat has taken :D
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 05:16:55 PM
I'm sending you a stack of Coulter DVD's.
Why do you want me to kill my roomies? They are such [mostly] nice people!
Quote from: Richter on June 28, 2007, 05:39:53 PM
I love the tangents this threat has taken :D
I love that typo! :lol:
Quote from: Richter on June 28, 2007, 05:39:53 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 28, 2007, 04:51:04 PM
I'll give you that.
But that doesn't change the fact that TV is freaking EEEEVIL.
Truth. It's hardly tollerable anymore. Even the History channel has failed me.
I love the tangents this threat has taken :D
Give it time, eventually we will be discussing something music related. It tends to happen quite often with the Or Kill Me threads. Just ask Roger.
sort of like how the pics thread inevitably drifts into star wars
Hey, didja know I have a vinyl copy of the Star Wars disco album by MECCO?
LMNO
-2 birds, one post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIsvMSEYiK4
:lulz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4hacmvSPaI
:lulz:
Ann gets pwned again
Im looking for her last performance on OReilly
it was so wierd and insane even OReilly was having trouble keeping a straight face
Erm....
Please to ignore my last post.
Tequila and posting = fail.
Even I think that was retarded of me.
And another lesson learned, courtesy of PD.com.
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 28, 2007, 04:21:43 PM
Plus there's the advertisements, and TV shows are yet another method of sending social programming and norms into one's brain. Gender roles, acceptable morality, etc, all of these things are programmed into us via TV broadcasts.
Say no to TV if you want to program your own brain!
All things in moderation ... including moderation! Sometimes the pleasure of a 48 hour sci-fi, weekend marathon while baked out of my skull and surrounded by delivery pizza ... just needs no explaination.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2007, 05:47:09 PM
Hey, didja know I have a vinyl copy of the Star Wars disco album by MECCO?
LMNO
-2 birds, one post.
WHUT?? breakbeats? where?
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/fignick/breakbeat-electronic_music_full.jpg)
I thought that said breakfast.
"Attention: First you must make it safely around these zany curves before you can have some delicious waffles."
-DC
Did not eat breakfast this morning by mistake :cry:
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 02, 2007, 03:55:50 PM
I thought that said breakfast.
"Attention: First you must make it safely around these zany curves before you can have some delicious waffles."
-DC
Did not eat breakfast this morning by mistake :cry:
Intelligent beings choose waffles
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Quote from: Forteetu on July 02, 2007, 04:21:52 PM
It was horrible...The Rabbit, it came out of nowhere, put these on me, took picutres and left! I think he was taking them to the internet! Oh God......
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Tweaked. Great Pic :lulz:
My own breakfast was microwave popcorn, and I'm still highly amused at the topic drifting that refuses this threat to die.
Quote from: Richter on July 02, 2007, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Forteetu on July 02, 2007, 04:21:52 PM
It was horrible...The Rabbit, it came out of nowhere, put these on me, took picutres and left! I think he was taking them to the internet! Oh God......
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(http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/humour/images/39waffle.jpg)
Tweaked. Great Pic :lulz:
My own breakfast was microwave popcorn, and I'm still highly amused at the topic drifting that refuses this threat to die.
WAFFLES ARE FOREVAR THEY DO NEVAR DIE
-DC
Often enjoys waffles with nutella
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 02, 2007, 05:52:58 PM
WAFFLES ARE FOREVAR THEY DO NEVAR DIE
-DC
Often enjoys sex with nutella
Fixxxored.
Quote from: Richter on July 02, 2007, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Forteetu on July 02, 2007, 04:21:52 PM
It was horrible...The Rabbit, it came out of nowhere, put these on me, took picutres and left! I think he was taking them to the internet! Oh God......
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(http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/humour/images/39waffle.jpg)
Tweaked. Great Pic :lulz:
My own breakfast was microwave popcorn, and I'm still highly amused at the topic drifting that refuses this threat to die.
My LUNCH is microwave popcorn.
And an apple, for good measure.
Quote from: LMNO on July 02, 2007, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 02, 2007, 05:52:58 PM
WAFFLES ARE FOREVAR THEY DO NEVAR DIE
-DC
Often enjoys sex with nutella
Fixxxored.
OH YUO AND YUOR CRAFTY NOTIONS
Quote from: LMNO on July 02, 2007, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 02, 2007, 05:52:58 PM
WAFFLES ARE FOREVAR THEY DO NEVAR DIE
-DC
Often enjoys sex with nutella
Fixxxored.
Wouldn't that get all sticky?
-Akake
Would rather eat food than fuck it
Quote from: Akake on July 06, 2007, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 02, 2007, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 02, 2007, 05:52:58 PM
WAFFLES ARE FOREVAR THEY DO NEVAR DIE
-DC
Often enjoys sex with nutella
Fixxxored.
Wouldn't that get all sticky?
-Akake
Would rather eat food than fuck it
Akake, LMNO
LMNO, Akake
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 06, 2007, 07:01:29 PM
Quote from: Akake on July 06, 2007, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 02, 2007, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 02, 2007, 05:52:58 PM
WAFFLES ARE FOREVAR THEY DO NEVAR DIE
-DC
Often enjoys sex with nutella
Fixxxored.
Wouldn't that get all sticky?
-Akake
Would rather eat food than fuck it
Akake, LMNO
LMNO, Akake
For the confusingess, :mittens: