Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 05, 2007, 11:41:11 PM

Title: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 05, 2007, 11:41:11 PM
(http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/sdanger.png) (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/sdanger.pdf)
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: B_M_W on September 06, 2007, 12:15:43 AM
Ha!
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 06, 2007, 02:15:20 AM
Your message deserves to be read Vex. This is good stuff. But, if you make people work to read your shit, most won't.

So consider using a right-ragged format (it makes it easier to track back to the beginning of the next line) and at the very least take into account that 45-75 characters (including spaces) per line makes for comfortable continuous reading, with an "ideal" number being around 66.
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 06, 2007, 02:16:55 AM
Also:

(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/747/cardboardterroristcl7.jpg)
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 06, 2007, 04:17:59 AM
Quote from: Netaungrot on September 06, 2007, 02:15:20 AM
Your message deserves to be read Vex. This is good stuff. But, if you make people work to read your shit, most won't.

So consider using a right-ragged format (it makes it easier to track back to the beginning of the next line) and at the very least take into account that 45-75 characters (including spaces) per line makes for comfortable continuous reading, with an "ideal" number being around 66.

I'll consider it.

Although, right-justified used to be an art.  Right-ragged is so ugly, and has no class.  As for characters per line, this needs to fit on a single sheet of paper.
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 06, 2007, 04:23:36 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 05, 2007, 11:41:11 PM
(http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/sdanger.png) (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/sdanger.pdf)

Fucking GENIUS.

Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: Cramulus on September 06, 2007, 04:31:24 AM
RAWK ON, vex!

Next week, much of your new material will be posted on telephone poles around White Plains NY.
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: Darth Cupcake on September 06, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
Sweet merciful fuck.

fuckin' mittens

I was in the perfect frame of mind for this one today, so it just really worked for me. I love it!

"Just a relatively short time ago, many of our forefathers were addicted to MAKING WAVES, and their lives weren't nearly as comfortable as ours."

Frikkin' brilliant, sir.

I agree with Net about some of the number of words per line, but I understand the fitting on a piece of paper issue. I personally prefer justified on both margins, so I frown on right ragged, but that's a matter of taste. I think it looks pretty and orderly. I am a bad Discordian! ;)
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 06, 2007, 09:34:24 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on September 06, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
Sweet merciful fuck.

fuckin' mittens

I was in the perfect frame of mind for this one today, so it just really worked for me. I love it!

"Just a relatively short time ago, many of our forefathers were addicted to MAKING WAVES, and their lives weren't nearly as comfortable as ours."

Frikkin' brilliant, sir.

I agree with Net about some of the number of words per line, but I understand the fitting on a piece of paper issue. I personally prefer justified on both margins, so I frown on right ragged, but that's a matter of taste. I think it looks pretty and orderly. I am a bad Discordian! ;)

Right ragged tends to produce a more even overall texture or in typographic terms "color." Fully justified columns produce "acne" or big blobs of white space and depending on your program will throw your letterspacing off. Hearing both sides of the argument, I tend to come down on the side of the irregular letterspacing being more distracting than the irregular end of the line. The idea that the ragged edge helps you track the next line jives with my experience as well. However, no one argues that irregular letterspacing is beneficial.

Compounding the mild breakout in Vex's text is the Victorian era custom of a double space after a period. It's frowned upon by most graphic and book designers for the same reasons as the acne and due to it just being utterly unnecessary. On top of all of that, he decided to use a boldface sans serif for body text, which is guaranteed to turn a lot of people off from the get go as well.

In terms of fitting type on a page, believe it or not, you can fit more words to a page with columns than in a single column. Due to the fact that you need less leading with shorter column widths. When it comes down to it, rag right tends to be more economical in terms of the energy necessary to make it look good (whereas with justified you usually have to be much more careful of the acne and rivers) and in terms of use of space.

That said, there are situations where I find justification more pleasing. And it isn't nearly as bad as it could be for the upper half of his design but screams lazy bastard below it.

I've got to say that the headline style is compelling. What typeface is that?
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: Darth Cupcake on September 06, 2007, 09:36:43 PM
Net, that was really freaking interesting.

Seriously.

I don't think I've processed it all yet, so that's all I have to say, but that was actually really intriguing to me, so I think I'm going to reread it and try to embed some of that into my mind.
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 07, 2007, 05:33:45 AM
Taking Net's suggestions into account:
(http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/sdanger2.png) (http://www.cwyohba.org/noexit/sdanger2.pdf)
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: Cramulus on September 07, 2007, 05:46:50 AM
what's the headline font called?
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: Chairman Risus on September 07, 2007, 06:13:19 AM
Fairfax Station? I'm not completely sure. My computer will recognize it, but I don't technically have it.
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: Triple Zero on September 07, 2007, 12:30:24 PM
you know, that actually *does* look a lot more pleasing and comfortable to the eye.

plus, what D-Cup said, typography = interesting, funny thing is i only got into it when i was researching things about using fonts on webpages. i dunno what it is, there is some strange appeal about putting type on a page and make it look good.
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: AFK on September 07, 2007, 02:06:07 PM
I like em both, for what it's worth. 
Title: Re: STRANGER DANGER!
Post by: Mourning Star on September 09, 2007, 03:09:07 AM
Why do you haet our freedom?



There will be so many of these posted around Herkimer, NY