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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Jasper on January 28, 2008, 04:49:07 PM

Title: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 28, 2008, 04:49:07 PM
Anyone know about this stuff?  Scalar fields, Z Machines, rotary turbines and vacuum energy generators?  I've got a bunch of ebooks on it and I'm curious if anyone's done some research.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 28, 2008, 06:37:22 PM
I'm posthumously in love with Tesla.

I've read about some of his undeveloped inventions, but from what I have read, since all his documentation was lost in the fire and no one can seem to replicate them, it's sort of a difficult row to hoe.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 28, 2008, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 28, 2008, 06:37:22 PM
I'm posthumously in love with Tesla.

I've read about some of his undeveloped inventions, but from what I have read, since all his documentation was lost in the fire and no one can seem to replicate them, it's sort of a difficult row to hoe.

Damned Edison Henchmen!
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 28, 2008, 11:33:41 PM
Actually, not all his documents were lost.  Google the Tesla Engine Builders Society or torrent search keyword tesla.  A lot of his journals are available.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Pope Lecherous on January 29, 2008, 01:00:35 AM
I read this book tesla inspired fiction, about some guy that wants to destroy america with one of tesla's badass death ray things.  Awesome because although it is fiction a lot of the info about tesla is true.  And the main character is a G.

Ghost Dancer,  John Case
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 29, 2008, 02:20:58 AM
Scalar field technology is currently suspected to be capable of producing such a weapon.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Penumbral on January 29, 2008, 08:54:46 AM
Tesla = Bagass.

No question.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 29, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
ok just .. what do you mean by "scalar field"?

i thought i knew what it was (some mathematical construct used in physics) and wikipedia confirms this.

what's it got to do with Tesla? and/or death rays?

"a scalar field associates a scalar value (...) to every point in space."

(a "scalar value" is just a fancy word for a numerical value, as opposed to vector values, colours, types of fruit or sets of important historical personalities)

i have used scalar fields for all kinds of things.

for example, when i cook a chicken in the oven, the temperature distribution inside the chicken is a scalar field.

how do i turn the chicken into a death ray now?
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: AFK on January 29, 2008, 02:23:33 PM
Was it Tesla who had some schematics for some sort of device that could bring down a bridge.  I seem to remember the Mythbusters doing something with it and I thought it was a Tesla thing but maybe not.  It was a device that was basically this Piston that when vibrating on the bridge could get the whole thing to fail, lose integrity, and crumble.  Although, they pretty much busted the concept as it didn't do much at all. 
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 29, 2008, 04:29:23 PM
The mythbusters do not bust myths, they mock them.  Also, they'd be the busted ones if they took down a bridge.

Anyway, 000:  It's actually something I know nothing about, except that it's something this guy thinks is a big deal. http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm

Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 30, 2008, 05:48:58 AM
Quote from: Felix on January 28, 2008, 11:33:41 PM
Actually, not all his documents were lost.  Google the Tesla Engine Builders Society or torrent search keyword tesla.  A lot of his journals are available.

Well, that's cool then.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 30, 2008, 10:03:56 AM
Quote from: Felix on January 29, 2008, 04:29:23 PMAnyway, 000:  It's actually something I know nothing about, except that it's something this guy thinks is a big deal. http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm

page wouldn't load yesterday, i just checked it.

you don't seriously believe this shit, right? it's nothing but physics-buzzword babble that make no sense if you actually try to figure out what he's talking about, but serve well to impress the layman.

i wonder why people make websites like this. trolling, scamming, delusion?
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 30, 2008, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: triple zero link=topic=15072.msg478085#msg478085
i wonder why people make websites like this. trolling, scamming, delusion?

Sound like three pretty good reasons to me  :evil:
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 30, 2008, 04:22:05 PM
I was first apprehensive of Bearden's claims because Tesla was rigidly anti-weapon in his work.  Alright, so it's a fake.  Nevertheless, if half of what is said of Tesla's unpublished inventions then there's a lot to be explored. 

Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 30, 2008, 04:31:25 PM
yeah, for example, if we could only generate half the energy from that infinite-energy-from-"active"-vacuum device ..
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 30, 2008, 04:40:05 PM
That's what I'm intersted in most, myself.  I'm thinking about researching the subject from a physicist's standpoint and trying to see if it's feasible without help from Tesla himself.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Triple Zero on January 30, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
exactly.

so now you're dropping your plan on creating Strong AI (or was it Space Colonisation) in favour of researching the Perpetuum Mobile?
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 30, 2008, 05:06:35 PM
No, it all comes together.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on January 31, 2008, 01:23:36 AM
Now that I'm home I can elucidate.

What I'm working toward is the transformation of Earth into sort of a server for living information as a platform for intergalactic and possibly interuniversal operations.  It will require a lot of electricity, so anything Tesla did to harvest cosmic levels of electricity will be interesting.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Bharlion on February 03, 2008, 10:30:20 AM
If I could post the classified documents from the CIA I nicked a few years back you would crap your pants.

Kidding!

But that never happened. I didn't say that. And I never had such documents since I don't exist and I didn't post this and you didn't see this. You are all hallucinating again. Dreaming. Sorry. Go back to sleep. Just a dream.

But seriously folks, Nikola tesla was not just ahead of his time he was ahead of his whole civilization. The kind of inventions he was working on were the sort of stuff that we can't even fathom the capabilities of. I mean weapons of planetary destruction? The current state humanity is in, we would destroy our selves with his work before realizing why he dreamed it. I mean he looked at the world the way only madmen and prophets do, a piece of clay ready to be molded. The things he dreamed of were snuffed because of the current mindset of our culture is so focused on profit they don't realize that the survival of the human race is far more important than bottom lines or profit margins. More important than even individual lives. What would you sacrifice to save the entire human race from eventual extinction.

But that didn't also happen. I didn't post that. You didn't see that. Someone hacked my account. LOL
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on February 03, 2008, 06:59:48 PM
It's not the human race, B.  It's the entire scope of natural life at stake, when you talk about that level of energy manipulation.

He had some kind of machine that would 'plunge' a current into the earth and catch it when it came back, many times magnified by some unknown process.  He could generate full-fledged lightning bolts with it.  It's in his biography.  The place was parted out to pay off his debts, and the technology forever lost, since he kept all his schematics in his head.

His last statement to us was that we wouldn't recognize the value of his inventions until after we lost him.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Bharlion on February 04, 2008, 03:17:23 AM
I weep when I realize all that the warriors burning and greedy merchants ways have destroyed. To think of the world we could have had and the world we live in makes me drown my waking mind constantly in intoxication to block out the wretched pain of it all. Could you imagine a bette world, with clean air, cities not powered by greed...

Gecko was wrong. Greed is evil.

I digress. I keep so much of my work in my head that sometimes it overflows into the waking world and thus I feel a kinship to him. Because as a out of work journalist told his ideas were to mad for the paper or for people my wish would be to be understood one day in the future. I mean I dream of a better world were he instead of the capitalist edison with his "Hello" and electric light prevail but again it is just a dream. No body realizes the value of anyone person until their prescence is snuffed out. He led. I follow his example. Never sell out. Never take the fat check. Tell the man to shove it. Anyways that is that.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Jasper on February 04, 2008, 05:43:47 AM
Anti-establishment is a fine sentiment.  Money is only a factor to me as far as I use it out of convenience.

But one day, somehow, I'll get rid of the whole damn system and it's paper.  I hate money.  It ruins everything.  The only things that matter are people and letting them be.  We can have that. 

I'm fine with my skin color, it's just the people I have to share it with that I can't stand most of.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: AFK on March 28, 2012, 01:05:45 PM
LOVE WILL FIND A WAY!!!!!
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Faust on March 28, 2012, 04:30:28 PM
Lets just say if this prototype I'm working on based on his designs functions as it should, it's really going to shake things up.
Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
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Title: Re: Undeveloped Tesla inventions?
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on March 31, 2012, 12:06:50 AM
Quote from: Jasper on January 31, 2008, 01:23:36 AMWhat I'm working toward is the transformation of Earth into sort of a server for living information
You are too late (http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/)

Regarding the Tesla 'death ray'... There's a reason neither the United States nor the Nazis wanted it: the principle behind it was spinning superheated mercury around in a large sphere until it gained enough momentum to be released. How it was to be spun was never declared.

Keep in mind that late in life Tesla was (apparently) quite mad. He believed that living in a house with electricity running through the walls and drinking a shot of whiskey every day would make him immortal (it didn't, and it doesn't work for any other whiskey drinkers who have lightbulbs in their houses either so far as I can tell). The physics buzzword nonsense may in fact be Tesla-genuine, because that's the sort of thing he wrote late in life. (Unless it mentions QM, of course. Tesla famously ranted against the concept of the electron.)