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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Jasper on February 07, 2008, 10:10:17 AM

Title: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 07, 2008, 10:10:17 AM
http://www.dmso.org/

It's a substance that you can mix other stuff with it, to cause contact ingestion.

Probably have all kinds of fun with it, with the right imagination.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Richter on February 07, 2008, 11:34:11 PM
Catchy way to assasinate or discredit someone, you just have to douse somethign they're likely to touch with a poison / drug mixed with this stuff.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 07, 2008, 11:37:21 PM
Or to leave lsd+dmso on a doorknob.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 07, 2008, 11:40:50 PM
OOH, or coated all over a VandeGraaf Generator! :twisted:
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Richter on February 07, 2008, 11:58:54 PM
"I was so high I thought I could shoot lightning form my fingers"

:lulz:

Medically, using it for painkillers, blood thinners,or antinflamatories couldbe quite useful.  You could target the drugs to the injury with the accuracy of a topical treatment, and the effectivenes of an injested / intravenous dose.


Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 08, 2008, 12:02:16 AM
I think so.  I really don't understand why it's not more widely applied.  Maybe there's something wrong with it...
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 08, 2008, 12:06:03 AM
http://www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Richter on February 08, 2008, 12:10:34 AM
I could be a bit TOO efficient in some cases.

One of my first ideas, since I know a few diabetics, was insulin lip balm.  Makes it easy to keep a small amount in your system at all times, right?  Easy application, and so on....

Then again, you can get too much VERY easily.  Think of smearing too much on, or someone accidentally getting a lot of the stuff on them, the patient would be in for insulin shock in a hurry.

(Since much of poison control 1st aid relies on being able to slow / remove / dilute the poison (water, stomach pump, activated charcoal), the drug going straight to the blood makes it near impossible to stop.)  

 
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 08, 2008, 02:04:43 AM
But with insulin, you can just feed the diabetic to counteract the insulin.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 08, 2008, 02:06:36 AM
And yeah, it'd be pretty scary if criminals (think rapists) widely knew about DMSO.  Bit of smudgy stuff on your handlebars?  Well, whatever.  Pass out ten seconds later, wake up in an ice bath with your kidneys missing.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Verbal Mike on February 09, 2008, 10:58:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Felix Mackay on February 08, 2008, 12:06:03 AM
http://www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm
Reminds me a little of the DCA story (which is not at all over yet)...
http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 09, 2008, 11:43:40 PM
The FDA suppresses a lot of good things in the interest of corporate medicine.  They're just like every other federal program.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 10, 2008, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Dr. Felix Mackay on February 07, 2008, 11:37:21 PM
Or to leave lsd+dmso on a doorknob.

or your high school history teacher's favorite pen.

ECH,
would never have done that, of course
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 10, 2008, 03:26:33 PM
That'd be terrible!

::Snicker, guffaw::

Actually I recalled DMSO from a Loompanics book on escaping from jail where they suggest using it on a pen and leaving the pen on the ground.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Bharlion on February 11, 2008, 12:30:58 AM
They have developed it somewhere in the skunk works... but I don't know anything about that and didn't post this.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Mourning Star on February 11, 2008, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: Bharlion on February 11, 2008, 12:30:58 AM
They have developed it somewhere in the skunk works... but I don't know anything about that and didn't post this.

Seriously.  You remind me of AKK, only with a smaller helping of self-whoring, and a super-sized order of stupid.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Epimetheus on February 13, 2008, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on February 10, 2008, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: Dr. Felix Mackay on February 07, 2008, 11:37:21 PM
Or to leave lsd+dmso on a doorknob.

or your high school history teacher's favorite pen.

ECH,
would never have done that, of course

:lulz:
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 14, 2008, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: Bharlion on February 11, 2008, 12:30:58 AM
They have developed it somewhere in the skunk works... but I don't know anything about that and didn't post this.

Will you please.

Stop pretending to be some sort of CIA/FBI/SS/whatever agent/prisoner/project, nobody buys it and it's not impressing anyone. All the implications that you're cool/in the in/crazy are just annoying, pretentious, and juvenile. If you want to impress people, post legibly about what you want to discuss, act like a reasonably intelligent human adult, and people will be impressed. All the faky-faky I'm so unique-crazy-special shit is just eyerollingly bad, it reminds m of my ten-year-old when she pretends she can talk to plants except in a ten-year-old it's cute.

There. You broke me down. I'm the fucking welcome wagon.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Mourning Star on February 15, 2008, 02:01:08 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 14, 2008, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: Bharlion on February 11, 2008, 12:30:58 AM
They have developed it somewhere in the skunk works... but I don't know anything about that and didn't post this.

Will you please.

Stop pretending to be some sort of CIA/FBI/SS/whatever agent/prisoner/project, nobody buys it and it's not impressing anyone. All the implications that you're cool/in the in/crazy are just annoying, pretentious, and juvenile. If you want to impress people, post legibly about what you want to discuss, act like a reasonably intelligent human adult, and people will be impressed. All the faky-faky I'm so unique-crazy-special shit is just eyerollingly bad, it reminds m of my ten-year-old when she pretends she can talk to plants except in a ten-year-old it's cute.

There. You broke me down. I'm the fucking welcome wagon.

ITT Nigel finally learns to hate.

My little girl's all grown up.  :)
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 15, 2008, 02:36:38 AM
 :digtbk:
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 15, 2008, 02:48:58 AM
We need a  :| smiley with a  :digtbk: crown, for times like these.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 15, 2008, 02:52:58 AM
Yes. Absolutely.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on February 15, 2008, 04:51:33 AM
With or without color?

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Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 15, 2008, 06:00:44 AM
You=The Man.

Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on February 15, 2008, 06:17:53 AM
Whom do we bother to get these made into smileys?
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: East Coast Hustle on February 15, 2008, 01:40:02 PM
you could try me, but Faust and Cain are both less lazy and more technically inclined.

though I'll do it when I get back later tonight if no one else has by then.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: LMNO on February 15, 2008, 02:16:37 PM
PS - I vote for the grey crown.




PPS - Dead Kennedys  has a song about DMSO.  Dates back to the "Bedime for Democracy" album, circa 1986.




So it's not, you know, anything new.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 15, 2008, 03:39:17 PM
It's older than me.  It's still virtually unknown an useful as heck.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: The Littlest Ubermensch on February 16, 2008, 06:23:42 AM
Hm, only $12.32 for 16 oz. of it. I'm tempted to experiment with it.

http://www.herbalremedies.com/dmso.html (http://www.herbalremedies.com/dmso.html)
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 16, 2008, 06:24:34 AM
DUDE

I am going to buy this and try to eschew meals by blending it with meat.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Triple Zero on February 16, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
please be careful not to accidentally poison yourself :)

a lot of things that are perfectly fine to ingest, are not very nice when absorbed directly into your bloodstream, especially since the dosis might be hard to control.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 17, 2008, 09:47:20 AM
Quote from: Dr. Felix Mackay on February 16, 2008, 06:24:34 AM
DUDE

I am going to buy this and try to eschew meals by blending it with meat.

YUM.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 17, 2008, 06:20:31 PM
Quote from: triple zero on February 16, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
please be careful not to accidentally poison yourself :)

a lot of things that are perfectly fine to ingest, are not very nice when absorbed directly into your bloodstream, especially since the dosis might be hard to control.

It was a joke.

Although it could relatively easily be engineered into any number of drug delivery systems to nearly eliminate hypodermic needles.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on February 17, 2008, 07:57:06 PM
OR used in a hypodermic injection so that it could penetrate deep tissues without being swept away by the bloodstream.
Title: Re: Fun with intradermal drug delivery materials
Post by: Jasper on February 17, 2008, 08:41:15 PM
I'm not sure it'd work that way.  Dunno really.