I think we should plan something major for 2012.
We've got time. Any suggestions?
EDIT: The number of members right now is 2012. :eek:
well, i was saving up some Eschatons, i was planning to Immanentize at that date.
I propose the following planning procedure:
1) Find as many popular or semi-popular movements related to 2012 as possible.
2) Do something completely different, and hopefully way cooler.
3) ???
4) PROFIT!
I suggest an amendment to your procedure:
1) PROFIT!
2) PROFIT!
3) PROFIT!
4) PROFIT!
My cult in the making is called Teutontology- a play on "teuton" and "ontology" , and i like that it sounds limilar to scientology.
we believe in the mayan revelation of 2012. currently, if memory serves me right, we are in the "third night" of the "last week" of the long count, a week being 7 days and six nights.
their conception of time reminds me of fractals.
1-2-2-1-2-0-1-2, it's not too soon for apocalyptic doom!
I like the idea of getting people all revved up for the apocalypse. I'd have some specific ideas for generating fake news which supports ludacris end-of-the-world scenarios, but they won't be useful for three or four years. =)
In the meantime, can someone remember where this letter was? Hoops?
A few weeks back someone showed up in Apple Talk (?) saying they got a mysterious letter in the mail with some cryptic stuff written on it. On the back it said IN 2012, LOOK TO THE SKIES
If I had received a letter like this randomly, it would have Freaked me the fuck Out.
How about starting a cult in which, in 2012, followers will flock to public spaces to await the descent of The Golden Pterodactyl? Dressed as pterodactyls.
We could start a rock band. We could call it...
I dunno.
(http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/images/Rush-2112.jpg)
(http://www.discoflux.com/images/2012.png)
Quote from: vexati0n on March 03, 2008, 05:58:06 PM
(http://www.discoflux.com/images/2012.png)
I like this, because it's confusing and obscure and people would Google it.
Quote from: Tezza on January 20, 2008, 09:30:52 PM
In the post came an envelope addressed to Terry.
I got a letter through the post and inside was a pink condom and a post it note.
The post it reads...
I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SPREAD THE WORD!
FUCK THE FUNDAMENTALISTS! THIS COMES
STRAIGHT FROM THE TOP... WE ARE ALL
INVOLVED IN THE CREATION OF A GREAT
STORY, AND LIKE ALL GREAT STORIES, IT
TELLS OF HOW THE WORLD WAS SAVED AT
THE LAST POSSIBLE MOMENT, FROM
SEEMINGLY INEVITABLE DESTRUCTION -
BY A HANDFUL OF HEROES. THE TIMER ON
THE BOMB ALWAYS STOPS WITH ONE
SECOND TO GO. FAITH IN FAITH ITSELF
Then on the other side it reads...
WATCH THE SKIES IN 2012
WWW.PRINCIPIADISCORDIA.COM
Why did I get this, what exactly is this? :lol:
IT'S 3:00 AM ON DECEMBER 26, 2012. YOUR CHILDREN ARE SLEEPING QUIETLY IN THEIR BEDS. BUT IN WASHINGTON, A PHONE IS RINGING. AT THE OTHER END OF THE LINE, A HUGE METEOR IS DELIVERING HIS FINAL WARNING TO THE PEOPLE OF EARTH. THIS IS THE DAY THE WORLD WILL DIE IN A BLAZE OF FIRE.
WHO DO YOU WANT IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN THE WORLD ENDS?
bruce willis
:mittens:
Quote from: revidc on March 11, 2008, 05:21:38 PM
QuoteMy cult in the making is called Teutontology- a play on "teuton" and "ontology" , and i like that it sounds limilar to scientology.
hey! only a fucking uber-genius would come up with a plan like that!
I like your style.
But everyone knows that in 2012 The "Happy Bunny" will appear in the east, heralding the coming of The Ultimate Evolved Form of The Psyon?
Right?
well, that
is the basic format of ragnarok, unless i missed something.
(seriously, though, it seems a lot of rabbitty hare figures throughout lots of mythos are trickster archetypes.)
fact is, psyonetics (tm), teutontology (k), or some other "whack-y" variant will herald from the same pattern, highlighting different themes. good, solongas we can agree on 2012.
What about sending postcards to mental institution residents at random with no return address and "2012" written as the only words? Or 2012 and an eye?
Then later move on to people out of the phone book?
With little means to research what exactly the big deal about 2012 is, I'd think in-patients wouldn't care much.
I figure a statistically significant number might be in specifically *because* of their 2012 research :P.
In any case, it's bound to creep people out enough to cause a stir.
Quote from: Enki-][ on October 20, 2008, 02:01:14 AM
What about sending postcards to mental institution residents at random with no return address and "2012" written as the only words? Or 2012 and an eye?
Then later move on to people out of the phone book?
I can't be the only person who thinks mindfucking the MENTALLY ILL is not actually cool at all, and is fact quite lame and assholish.
Quote from: Nigel on November 24, 2008, 04:40:50 PM
Quote from: Enki-][ on October 20, 2008, 02:01:14 AM
What about sending postcards to mental institution residents at random with no return address and "2012" written as the only words? Or 2012 and an eye?
Then later move on to people out of the phone book?
I can't be the only person who thinks mindfucking the MENTALLY ILL is not actually cool at all, and is fact quite lame and assholish.
Agreed.
I've been working 2012 into other things I've been doing. Getting the campus to believe that there's an underground cult on campus - awesome. Getting the campus to believe that there's an apocalyptic cult on campus - more awesome.
Quote from: Nigel on November 24, 2008, 04:40:50 PM
Quote from: Enki-][ on October 20, 2008, 02:01:14 AM
What about sending postcards to mental institution residents at random with no return address and "2012" written as the only words? Or 2012 and an eye?
Then later move on to people out of the phone book?
I can't be the only person who thinks mindfucking the MENTALLY ILL is not actually cool at all, and is fact quite lame and assholish.
But Nigel! Don't you know that mentally ill people are actually just silly versions of normal people who do weird things for our amusement?
Oh, wait... no they're not. Mindfucking them is definitely uncool.
On the other hand, mindfucking loons like, say, Wiolawa is 100% mittens and win.
actually, when i'm perfectly honest i did feel a hint of remorse when playing at the freethinker's place. i mean, those people didnt seem to be your average internet retards, but quite a few displayed symptoms of actual semi-psychotic paranoid delusions, the actually mentally-ill variant. of course, I'm not a doctor, and i figured that somehow them already being on the internet, and just poking some fun at them would be the worst that would happen, in that particular case it was kinda okay.
either way, what nigel said. freaking out the mentally ill is uncool.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 17, 2008, 11:21:12 PM
well, i was saving up some Eschatons, i was planning to Immanentize at that date.
:lulz:
ya know it's posts like this that make me feel better about actually starting to read this nonlinear trainwreck. i shall proceed in lulz.
Quote from: The Mormons Will Begin Arriving By Bus on November 24, 2008, 04:40:50 PM
Quote from: Enki-][ on October 20, 2008, 02:01:14 AM
What about sending postcards to mental institution residents at random with no return address and "2012" written as the only words? Or 2012 and an eye?
Then later move on to people out of the phone book?
I can't be the only person who thinks mindfucking the MENTALLY ILL is not actually cool at all, and is fact quite lame and assholish.
"The mentally ill should be mindfucking us." Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst
Now that the thread has been all necromanced up, I should say in my defense that I was just planning on sending postcards with memebombs to my gf who just happens to be locked up in an asylum atm. However, she dumped me, so I guess that's no longer in the cards.
Quote from: Enki-][ on February 09, 2009, 02:13:21 PM
Now that the thread has been all necromanced up, I should say in my defense that I was just planning on sending postcards with memebombs to my gf who just happens to be locked up in an asylum atm. However, she dumped me, so I guess that's no longer in the cards.
That's not what you said, though.
Quote from: Enki-][ on October 20, 2008, 02:01:14 AM
What about sending postcards to mental institution residents at random with no return address and "2012" written as the only words? Or 2012 and an eye?
Then later move on to people out of the phone book?
Quote from: Enki-][ on October 20, 2008, 12:18:35 PM
I figure a statistically significant number might be in specifically *because* of their 2012 research :P.
In any case, it's bound to creep people out enough to cause a stir.
I call bullshit on the new excuse.
Right. You guys don't have girlfriends there, though, as far as I know :P. I can't really suggest that you send them to girlfriends in asylums who you don't have.
sending pre addressed, postage payed postcards for asylum inmates to write on and mail out might be funny, but you couldn't see the results...
its more like those at an asylums dont have much outside contact
Doesn't work, though. There are sanctions against keeping stamps. Liz thought it was because they could be used to smuggle in drugs.
There doesn't seem to be any real limit to how much mail one can send out, from there. I think they pay for it all anyway. That said, that's probably just Liz's situation -- I can imagine situations when it wouldn't be a good idea to let a mental patient send mail.
i don't know anything about the rules inmates live by,
i had a passing notion that letters to editors, politicians, religious nuts, conspiracy theorists from inmates would be funny, but not seeing the results kinda kills it, and inmates having postal rules and restrictions makes it impossible..
Well, you can totally send the envelopes, but you need not only the address of the place, but also the name of the inmate. With Liz, the place paid for all her postage, which was sucky for me since I'm used to being able to call her or talk online, but pretty good for getting people to send out pre-addressed envelopes, since you save money on stamps. But all in all, it's kind of impractical.
Quote from: Enki-][ on February 09, 2009, 08:38:53 PM
Right. You guys don't have girlfriends there, though, as far as I know :P. I can't really suggest that you send them to girlfriends in asylums who you don't have.
I have no problem believing that you have a girlfriend in a mental institution. The part that I'm calling bullshit on is your claim that you were really just talking about sending one to her, and not at all "sending postcards to mental institution residents at random" which is what you actually said.
Oh, no. I personally was going to send just to her. I was trying to get all of you to send them at random.
That said, she dumped me, and so I no longer really have an excuse.
Quote from: Enki-][ on October 20, 2008, 02:01:14 AM
What about sending postcards to mental institution residents at random (Partial Quote)
Quote from: Enki-][ on February 09, 2009, 02:13:21 PM
Now that the thread has been all necromanced up, I should say in my defense that I was just planning on sending postcards with memebombs to my gf who just happens to be locked up in an asylum atm. (Partial Quote)
I assume from this that you randomly pick up girls at mental institutions?
Suggestion: Why not just say, I was reading this thread, something popped into my head, I posted it, saw it was a bad idea, so let's move on. :)
EDIT: By the way, one of the TOP FIVE THINGS TO NEVER DO ON THIS SITE: Continue to defend yourself. Just a friendly suggestion.
He's making sense. He never claimed innocence; the mistake is on the other end.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 11, 2009, 06:00:52 AM
I assume from this that you randomly pick up girls at mental institutions?
Actually, I tend to attract girls who are either on their way in or out of mental institutions. I can't very well pick them up while they are *in* mental institutions. That said, all the communications I've had with Liz have been generally significantly saner-seeming than many of the communications I've had with people who aren't in institutions. However, it's kind of obvious that she has borderline personality disorder (and hey, I should know; I dated her for nearly 6 months), and it was becoming a major problem that she didn't have the correct diagnosis/treatment/&c.
Also, you have to be kind of crazy to date me. Or highly succeptable to love spells.
She must have been at one of those classy, private institutions, where people have insurance. I could not even get a pencil sharp enough to actually write!
On the topic though, Tim and I watched the Mindscape of Allan Moore again recently. I think he says in the film that by 2012 the collective of human information will be doubling every 60 seconds or something like that. This seems to correspond nicely with Time Wave Zero. I tell all kinds of people about it whenever I can. (I'll also tell them about the Reptilians too btw.) I don't know if that counts as a mindfuck but I do make conspiracy DVD's to hand out to coworkers. I'm sure that just makes ME look crazy.
Tinfoil hats aside, I'll really be let down if 2012 turns out to be another Y2K. I don't know what I want to happen but I know I want it to be awesome.
Quote from: Enki-][ on February 11, 2009, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 11, 2009, 06:00:52 AM
I assume from this that you randomly pick up girls at mental institutions?
Actually, I tend to attract girls who are either on their way in or out of mental institutions. I can't very well pick them up while they are *in* mental institutions. That said, all the communications I've had with Liz have been generally significantly saner-seeming than many of the communications I've had with people who aren't in institutions. However, it's kind of obvious that she has borderline personality disorder (and hey, I should know; I dated her for nearly 6 months), and it was becoming a major problem that she didn't have the correct diagnosis/treatment/&c.
Also, you have to be kind of crazy to date me. Or highly succeptable to love spells.
Good answer. :)
Quote from: Sanguine Penguin on February 11, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
Tinfoil hats aside, I'll really be let down if 2012 turns out to be another Y2K. I don't know what I want to happen but I know I want it to be awesome.
I feel exactly the same way. I think it's kind of a shame, though. I think most people fixate on dates like 2012 and Y2K and ideas like the apocalypse because they're almost desperate for some of the weirdness of fantasy to enter into their exasperatingly mundane lives. It shouldn't be so.
My resolution for 2012: try to make everyday life weird enough by then that no one will notice that it just turned 2012.
Even if Quetzalcoatl does choose that moment to ride a goat-drawn chariot across the plains of Armageddon to fight Xeno.
Which would be pretty cool, too.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on February 11, 2009, 06:00:52 AMBy the way, one of the TOP FIVE THINGS TO NEVER DO ON THIS SITE: Continue to defend yourself. Just a friendly suggestion.
NEWSFEED please
or n00bs thread, whichever.
Quote from: Risus on February 11, 2009, 07:05:48 AM
He's making sense. He never claimed innocence; the mistake is on the other end.
What mistake?
Does it make it NOT a bad idea because he wasn't going to do it himself, just trying to get someone else to do it?
I think in theory it was a good idea, at first the thought of it made me chuckle. But then once it stewed a bit more it seems pretty shitty.
Like if you happen upon a lone porta potty and you hear someone inside... there's no one around but you and some friends, perhaps something along the lines of, "Oh shit, I dare you to tip that bitch over." slips out of your mouth before you had time to think on the actual consequences. You dare someone else to do it because you, your self wouldn't, but if someone actually did I'm guessing you may feel pretty fucked up sometime in the future.
Yeah, that! Exactly.
There's already a lot of media out there pointing to 2012. piggyback and twist.
This thread, if i'm not mistaken, is for the depositing, hashing and hopefully organizing of ideas into a larger coherence to fuck the shit out of people's minds.
On a tangent: i recently read a thread from early '08 about new symbols for Discordja, as some people didn't care for the fact that the Chao rips off Taoism and we/they haven't/didn't do that with any other religious symbol.
I think new Symbols would be Good™ for anchoring to specific projects, like a logo. The basic idea behind it is that people's interaction with the [project] develops an association with the [project], and the [symbol] associated becomes an anchor.
That said, i think New Thievery of Old Religious Icons is in order. 50 years ago, we took Taoism: today, it could be the Moon/Star of Islam, the scimitars of Sikhism- the Cross and the Hexagram are also obvious.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Religious_syms.png
As far as my part for 2012:
I'm writing a screenplay in my creative writing class, i'll start posting it in installments in Bring and Brag. It culminates in 2012 on December 21.
Quote from: Philly Fillet on February 13, 2009, 09:09:22 PM
On a tangent: i recently read a thread from early '08 about new symbols for Discordja, as some people didn't care for the fact that the Chao rips off Taoism and we/they haven't/didn't do that with any other religious symbol.
That said, i think New Thievery of Old Religious Icons is in order. 50 years ago, we took Taoism: today, it could be the Moon/Star of Islam, the scimitars of Sikhism- the Cross and the Hexagram are also obvious.
I have already pirated Crowley's Unicursal Hexagram into a new 5 Fingered Hand of Eris (see avatar).
I also have to disagree with the focus on the Taoist paradigmal piracy. The authors of the PD were quite aware of other mystical traditions, and ripped them off quite well. Just because a casual reader can't get all of the references doesn't mean they aren't there. See my rant about the Apostle Sri Syadasti (in the Principia Discussion forum (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18260.0)) for an exposition on the Jainist methodologies behind the nearly-ineffable name of St Gulik.
I agree with the New Thievery.... as long as it's creative and enlightening.
St Gulik was also probably a nod towards Hermeticism as well...since he was in fact meant to be Hermes.
but 2013 adds up to 6
Quote from: Telarus on February 13, 2009, 10:20:43 PM
Quote from: Philly Fillet on February 13, 2009, 09:09:22 PM
On a tangent: i recently read a thread from early '08 about new symbols for Discordja, as some people didn't care for the fact that the Chao rips off Taoism and we/they haven't/didn't do that with any other religious symbol.
That said, i think New Thievery of Old Religious Icons is in order. 50 years ago, we took Taoism: today, it could be the Moon/Star of Islam, the scimitars of Sikhism- the Cross and the Hexagram are also obvious.
I have already pirated Crowley's Unicursal Hexagram into a new 5 Fingered Hand of Eris (see avatar).
I also have to disagree with the focus on the Taoist paradigmal piracy. The authors of the PD were quite aware of other mystical traditions, and ripped them off quite well. Just because a casual reader can't get all of the references doesn't mean they aren't there. See my rant about the Apostle Sri Syadasti (in the Principia Discussion forum (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=18260.0)) for an exposition on the Jainist methodologies behind the nearly-ineffable name of St Gulik.
I agree with the New Thievery.... as long as it's creative and enlightening.
I did notice you avatar some time ago. saved it.
and i didn't mean to imply that there weren't other references, etc, in the PD, just that from that body of text, the Chao is the the most striking Visual symbol perverted from a standing religion.
I have some ideas of my own. I'm swamped with class work at the moment, but i can probably weave the symbols into my story. I'll post drafts when i'm done.
an aside:
Would you say, Telarus, that your avatar is Hermetically Sealed?
Quote from: fomenter on February 09, 2009, 08:51:10 PM
sending pre addressed, postage payed postcards for asylum inmates to write on and mail out might be funny, but you couldn't see the results...
I think not seeing the results is part of the joy. I send out postcards with random shit on them and no return address. What you don't know is way more amusing.
There is a total lunar eclipse that crosses the southwest of the US on May 21stish 2012. I'm gonna be there, was hoping to do something more than just stand there staring into the Sun, but haven't really put much thought into it yet.
Quote from: Samuel Boone Johnson Thomas Frederik Douglas III on April 01, 2009, 01:25:59 AM
There is a total lunar eclipse that crosses the southwest of the US on May 21stish 2012. I'm gonna be there, was hoping to do something more than just stand there staring into the Sun, but haven't really put much thought into it yet.
I'm hoping you know to not actually stare at the sun. Not unless you're wearing lenses specifically designed for that purpose.
Quote from: Sheered Völva on May 20, 2009, 03:34:16 AM
Quote from: Samuel Boone Johnson Thomas Frederik Douglas III on April 01, 2009, 01:25:59 AM
There is a total lunar eclipse that crosses the southwest of the US on May 21stish 2012. I'm gonna be there, was hoping to do something more than just stand there staring into the Sun, but haven't really put much thought into it yet.
I'm hoping you know to not actually stare at the sun. Not unless you're wearing lenses specifically designed for that purpose.
:facepalm: x 2 lunar eclipse "looking into the sun" somebody shoot me please
:lulz:
:fnord:
Quote from: fomenter on February 09, 2009, 08:51:10 PM
sending pre addressed, postage payed postcards for asylum inmates to write on and mail out might be funny, but you couldn't see the results...
That would be awesome.
postcard idea: Greetings, from the psychic event in 2012!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbBmlHGgsgc&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Reading this thread prompted me to search for 2012 on the Rapture Ready bulletin board for ideas. I just started reading so I don't have any fully formed ideas yet, but lots of seeds for ideas.
These threads about "the upcoming 2012 deception" are funny even though they're predictable:
hXXp://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=98548
hXXp://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=105520
hXXp://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=106737
No one there thinks that 12-21-12 will be the date of the rapture, but they are coming up will all sorts of fun conspiracy theories about how the Antichrist is using the hype around 2012 to further his agenda, obviously to deceive people away from Christ.
Fun quotes:
QuoteI would offer that Satan is presenting deceptions like this to draw unbelievers away from the Word and into worshipping the New Age agenda. All this talk of cosmic alignments, spiritual renewals, rebirths, etc. It's all garbage. It is not a tie-in to Scripture, it is Satan trying to distract people from the truth.
QuoteThe Mayan calendar is too incredibly accurate for such a primitive people to have figured it out on their own. I take the fact that they have such a long term (26,000 years) and accurate calendar to be proof that they were visited by demons, the Nephilim, or some such biblical entity. How else would a short lived society of primitive savages have gained that knowledge.
QuoteThe UFO cult is also beginning to talk about the government revealing UFO information to us. Wouldn't it be a "coincidence" if after the rapture, the government finally informed the people about the UFO???
I suppose this is the value of wrath.
After reading that all I feel inside is a deep sorrow for all mankind :cry:
Oh, bother. The moderators at rapture ready removed the longest 2012 thread with the best stuff in it before I could finish reading it. The Google cache links don't work either.
Anyway, I found this dead forum which started in March and whose most recent of 13 total posts was in April. Does anyone have a good use for something like that?
hXXp://www.2012-prophets.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum.php
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on September 01, 2009, 01:03:07 AM
No one there thinks that 12-21-12 will be the date of the rapture, but they are coming up will all sorts of fun conspiracy theories about how the Antichrist is using the hype around 2012 to further his agenda, obviously to deceive people away from Christ.
But the Antichrist is only six, and She doesn't even know how to USE a calendar.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on September 02, 2009, 11:02:51 PM
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on September 01, 2009, 01:03:07 AM
No one there thinks that 12-21-12 will be the date of the rapture, but they are coming up will all sorts of fun conspiracy theories about how the Antichrist is using the hype around 2012 to further his agenda, obviously to deceive people away from Christ.
But the Antichrist is only six, and She doesn't even know how to USE a calendar.
That's what They WANT you to think! :fnord:
Probably true.