I conducted I minor experiment the other day. I posted a few subversive texts around my school (Pages from the BIP, "Think for yourself, schmuck!!", etc) A few days later, I was approached by my english teacher (whose classroom was the main target for the posting of texts) and questioned about the origins of the texts. After further investigation of my friends, I found that I was the ONLY one questioned about it. Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but I think this proves that They really are after me. Paranoia with a purpose!
Or you are a dead giveaway, maybe.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 19, 2008, 02:27:03 PM
Or you are a dead giveaway, maybe.
Aye, there's the rub. When you OMF people IRL you give them TMI and then a subversive GASM attack is NBD.
IMO
:lulz:
When you access this site, the Illuminati logs your ip and gives it to your teachers.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/forumspecific/astonished.gif)
NOW SHE HAS YOUR IP, TOO
Quote from: Thelaughingman421 on February 19, 2008, 02:19:55 PMI conducted I minor experiment the other day. I posted a few subversive texts around my school (Pages from the BIP, "Think for yourself, schmuck!!", etc) A few days later, I was approached by my english teacher (whose classroom was the main target for the posting of texts) and questioned about the origins of the texts. After further investigation of my friends, I found that I was the ONLY one questioned about it. Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but I think this proves that They really are after me. Paranoia with a purpose!
look behind you.
Practice your tradecraft more.
http://www.quikmaneuvers.com/espionage_manuals.html
Gotta learn how to know if you're being watched and how to avoid it if you want to be all covert about this. Right now, for example, there is no point in me trying to be clever in that way, because I'm part of another group keen on publicity, with similar aims, which means they make me go out there and do stupid shit to get attention. But eventually I'm sure they'll see sense and need me to do something quietly, in which case I can go back to anonymous distribution.
Please describe your usual daily appearance.
Hairstyle, clothing, etc.
Have you ever been described by someone else as "twitchy"?
Have you finally stopped huffing ScotchGuard?
Quote from: Thelaughingman421 on February 19, 2008, 02:19:55 PM
I was approached by my english teacher (whose classroom was the main target for the posting of texts) and questioned about the origins of the texts.
...so your english teacher has you pegged as the only free thinker with balls in his classes. Better duck next time. (Don't shit in your own backyard.)
Well, now that you're caught you have a few options...
Get more peeps into it so that the focus is spread out more.
Poster other places where you are not known.
Get someone else to hit the class again while you have your teacher in a meeting or at lunch to throw off the scent.
Huff more Scotchguard.
If you've made yourself out to be a clown, then you can't really pull off jokes.
QuotePlease describe your usual daily appearance.
Hairstyle, clothing, etc.
Typically, band shirts and baggy pants.
Stereotypical "goth" clothes, so i guess that helps me none to disquise my efforts.
It was mostly just an experiment to see how much I could place before it was noticed and to see how suspected I was by the authority figures. All input is appreciated, as I'm currently involved in a Cabal that's entirely devoted to covert subversion.
Quote from: LMNO on February 19, 2008, 04:08:42 PM
Please describe your usual daily appearance.
Hairstyle, clothing, etc.
DONT DO IT; LMNO IS ACTUALLY YOUR TEACHER
Dammit! I almost had him.
Laugher, if you're gonna try to do anti-establishment things, the best camoflage is to look like the establishment. In highschool, I had short hair, and I wore so-called "normal" clothes.
The amount of subversive shit I was able to get away with with no-one suspecting was astounding.
Yeah, that's pretty much the name of the game. When you are dealing with people you suspect to be narrowminded you have to recognize what that narrowmindedness entails. It certainly will entail pegging any shenanigans on the most outlandish personalities they encounter, right or not. I mean, how many times have you seen a bunch of angry WASPs take on another bunch of WASPs? Right. They go after people who don't look or act like them. Black people, gay people, long-haired people, drugged-up people, etc., etc.,
No one ever suspects the honor-roll cheerleader. She can go out amongst the sheep and lead them astray with no worries......
Oh wait...
Been there done that!
I am still confused as to why it matters if "they" do find out it is you. What are they going to do? Make you take the posters down?
Other than my mutton chops, I look and sound like a tool of the establishment. But on Valentine's Day I put up a bunch of National Loneliness Day posters, which upon closer inspection were a criticism of people who moan about not having a bf/gf on Valentine's Day. The best part was the fact that posters are not allowed at my school unless the Boss-man of student activities approves them first.
Quote from: Khara on February 19, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
I am still confused as to why it matters if "they" do find out it is you. What are they going to do? Make you take the posters down?
If you can identify and label the perp as a "weirdo", then you can dismiss the message.
Quote from: LMNO on February 19, 2008, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: Khara on February 19, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
I am still confused as to why it matters if "they" do find out it is you. What are they going to do? Make you take the posters down?
If you can identify and label the perp as a "weirdo", then you can dismiss the message.
And dismissal of the message is the worst fate for the message.
So, trade in the Tripp for Polo, eh?
Become a respectable-looking middle-aged mom, then you can get away with anything.
I was actually just reading about this in book, Pranks 2. There's an interview with the Yes Men (http://www.theyesmen.org) where they talk about exactly this... If I remember, I'll scan it and post it tomorrow.
But basically yeah, they say that if you want to fly under the radar and pull off good pranks, you have to look like a member of the establishment.
'You want a safe disguise, do you?
You want a dress which will guarantee you harmless; a dress in
which no one would ever look for a bomb?' I nodded. He suddenly
lifted his lion's voice. 'Why, then, dress up as an anarchist, you
fool!' he roared so that the room shook. 'Nobody will ever expect
you to do anything dangerous then.' - The Man Who Was Thursday.
Just become a joke. Be so ridiculous going about your goals that nobody takes you seriously.
Become the stereotypical angsty pseudo-anarchist kind of teen.
It's how the :fnord: Illuminati :fnord: have survived so long, tell your plan to one nutcase and as soon as he starts spreading it people will assume that it's rubbish.
Not sure how well that will work. If you're spreading funny, yet subversive pamphlets, the angsty pseudo-anarchist will still be the immediate suspect.
Pae seems to be indicating a different endgoal. The fool is rarely suspected of doing something serious (e.g. the class clown doing a major investigative reporting piece on the vagaries of the school budget).
But in this case, the outlandish is immediately suspected of doing something, well, outlandish (e.g. the class clown putting up "have you seen me?" posters about a lost fresh prince of bel aire).
So, yes, Pae is right, in a way. But not in a way that's useful in this thread.
Stereotypes are annoying, though. And also, being over-the-top ridiculous might also get the message I try to spread discounted as ridiculous as well.
And people already ignore the message as it is
a similar suggestion:
If you were one of "them", and you were trying to tell your friends this message, how would you say it? Try to make your "message" sound like it's coming from within the group.
That's ingenius, Cramulus. Yeah, LaughingMan, if you were to pop up and have anti-subversive stuff in the school newspaper or whatnot ("Beware rebellious activities", etc.) and then had enough info on said rebels that they sounded appealing- or at least warranted investigation by the readers- it may be a successful recruiting measure. After all, so many people do things the Law says not to merely by virtue of it being against the law....
Quote from: LMNO on February 20, 2008, 01:29:48 PM
So, yes, Pae is right, in a way. But not in a way that's useful in this thread.
Hey, no one ever told me my ideas had to be useful...
Quote from: Paesior on February 21, 2008, 02:28:54 AM
Quote from: LMNO on February 20, 2008, 01:29:48 PM
So, yes, Pae is right, in a way. But not in a way that's useful in this thread.
Hey, no one ever told me my ideas had to be useful...
your ideas have to be useful.
It wouldn't hurt, really.
And how does one go about being a coffee necromancer, Triple Zero? My interest is peaked :D
Most of my friendgroup is already semi-rebel, but haven't taken notice of the BIP. I've made damn sure they've read PD, though. A few of them are even in on the Cabal. The difficulty lies in being completely free of suspicion and, aggravatingly, I bring suspicion on myself without even doing anything subversive-like. Outwardly, people view me as a Nihilistic metalhead who is an "infinite cesspool of hatred"
Headed to college in september, and only one or two people know me there. A new community would have no suspicions, if i'm careful.
Quote from: TheLastLump on February 23, 2008, 05:21:36 AM
It wouldn't hurt, really.
And how does one go about being a coffee necromancer, Triple Zero? My interest is peaked :D
offtopic, but basically i have the tendency to revive yesterday's coffee back from the dead by use of microwaves :D see also the recipes subforum.
Quote from: Thelaughingman421 on February 25, 2008, 02:12:50 PM
The difficulty lies in being completely free of suspicion and, aggravatingly, I bring suspicion on myself without even doing anything subversive-like. Outwardly, people view me as a Nihilistic metalhead who is an "infinite cesspool of hatred"
Headed to college in september, and only one or two people know me there. A new community would have no suspicions, if i'm careful.
If you appear like "a nihilistic metalhead who is an infinite cesspool of hatred", they certainly
will be suspicious.
If you wanna get really subversive, I reccommend investing in a polo shirt and some khakis. Good pranksters are chameleons, able to disguise themselves as a member of any group. Outlandishness leads to ostracization - you've gotta get past people's defenses by appearing "safe" to them.
also, on forming a cabal--
don't ask people if they want to be in your cabal. Invite them to go do cool stuff, and weeks later after you're the go-to guy for hilarious misadventures, they'll have already joined. The cool thing about having loyal lackeys is that you don't really need to sell them on the ideology as long as they'll do your bidding. :evil:
At least, that's my advice.
I wish it were my Cabal, but I can't take the credit for it.
When I decided to formalize my cabal, I emailed a bunch of people who have been on lardings with me, and asked them if they wanted to do something fun. Amusingly, only my best friend declined, citing "not being a joiner" as her reason.
Now she must be assimilated.
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on February 25, 2008, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: Thelaughingman421 on February 25, 2008, 02:12:50 PM
The difficulty lies in being completely free of suspicion and, aggravatingly, I bring suspicion on myself without even doing anything subversive-like. Outwardly, people view me as a Nihilistic metalhead who is an "infinite cesspool of hatred"
Headed to college in september, and only one or two people know me there. A new community would have no suspicions, if i'm careful.
If you appear like "a nihilistic metalhead who is an infinite cesspool of hatred", they certainly will be suspicious.
If you wanna get really subversive, I reccommend investing in a polo shirt and some khakis. Good pranksters are chameleons, able to disguise themselves as a member of any group. Outlandishness leads to ostracization - you've gotta get past people's defenses by appearing "safe" to them.
Cram's right. People at work have NO idea that I am a Death Metal lovin/Discordian-type. I've become pretty good at compartmentalizing those parts of me to where they cannot easily be detected. This allows me to actually work in some Discordian-type thought into my work in a way that people don't pick up on. I've learned to recraft language and to use certain words where these ideas don't sound so "wacky and zany" and are accepted. Mostly I'm talking about the "think for yourself" principles.
As a general rule, try to copy the majority's dress style. If popped collars and khakis aren't popular, no matter how straight laced you think they might make you look, you're still attracting attention. Make a habit out of your dress style, as abrupt changes draw more suspicion than most other things. If someone questions you about it, explain how you are growing out of your old phase. Even better, talk about how you've decided to live more responsibly etc. You might even be surprised by who's hiding out amongst the [insert popular stereotype]. You can't possibly be the only one doing this, after all.
Also, http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ :lulz: