Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: LHX on March 11, 2008, 05:28:09 PM

Title: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: LHX on March 11, 2008, 05:28:09 PM
it occured to me that rarely are things actually read


people see a lot of things

but not much gets read



that being said

what percentage of the population reads?


ever?

20%?

less?
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Cain on March 11, 2008, 05:47:49 PM
I believe the majority of people within the UK only read 3 books this year.

And I very much doubt they were anything like Black Mass or Kant's Metaphysicals of Morals either.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: AFK on March 11, 2008, 05:48:08 PM
Interesting question.  It's easy to go pessimistic and say less, but it's one of those things that would be hard to pin down.  Though it probably speaks to how so little gets accomplished in a lot of circles.  

I think of my own profession.  Seems like I go to the same meeting about the same topic over and over.  Shouldn't we be able to cover ground and move on to new ground.  Yet, it seems like often at the next stop we have to spend so much time retracing our steps that we never really get anywhere.  

So, maybe not only is it "Stop and smell the roses", it's "Stop and Spell the Roses."
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on March 11, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
I like to read, and I read a lot.  I try to read a book a week.

The divider there is the wheat from the chaff so to speak.  I read a lot of crap with the occaisional informative book thrown in every couple of weeks for good measure.

I think people must be reading or else Borders and B&N would be out of business.....
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 11, 2008, 06:38:36 PM
I love to read, but since having the kids it's slowed down to more like a book a month, sadly. :(
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: A.N. Other on March 11, 2008, 07:16:06 PM
It is a bit odd, I think, that the majority of Discordians—a group of people most would call childish in beliefs—seems to be intellectual. I find this very amusing at times. The other times, I'm sort of frightened that we are the ones who read. The 'lunatic fringe' has more sense then most.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Kurt Christ on March 11, 2008, 07:35:40 PM
Quote from: K-Scar on March 11, 2008, 07:16:06 PM
The ‘lunatic fringe’ has more sense then most.
Of course we do. The vast majority of people are drowning in self-deception and lies that they are to afraid to question, while the "lunatic fringe" questions the base assumptions of society and find something else. What  we find may be bullshit, but at least we have the sense to look.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: LMNO on March 13, 2008, 04:32:40 PM
Quote from: LHX on March 11, 2008, 05:28:09 PM
it occured to me that rarely are things actually read


people see a lot of things

but not much gets read



that being said

what percentage of the population reads?


ever?

20%?

less?

Good to see you back, L.

I'm interpreting this as "seeing" being taking in of information, but "reading" as actually understanding what you see.

That is, I know a lot of people who "see" the writing in a lot of good books, but they haven't actually "read" it.

I know people who "see" the morning newspaper, but not too many who actually have "read" it.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Payne on March 13, 2008, 09:20:43 PM
I used to be the same way myself. I've read a fucking shed load of books, and can't even tell you what they were about.

Not only did I not read to understand them, I didn't even read deeply enough to retain any of the information.

Another issue I've had is a tendancy to slip into skim reading, and I often have to go back again and again to actually read the paragraph or page.

And thats with me being aware of the problem and trying to change it.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Richter on March 13, 2008, 09:59:20 PM
Reading happens at dif. levels.  Some books I blow through and could summarize easily, but those are pulp sci fi, fantasy, etc.

Denser stuff (LoTR, Dune, Silmarilion), or ones like "Black Swan" and "Blood Germs and Steel", I've read, and then re visit on certain points later.  They have more to offer on re-visiting.

I agree with Payne, especiially in college, I had the fantastic skill to read every word on teh page of a dull text, but still miss the whole point entirely.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Chairman Risus on March 15, 2008, 12:07:58 AM
Used to have the same problem as the last two posters. 
I used to read loads of books, but lately, I've just been uninspired and haven't been able to concentrate on much. I intend on remedying this problem soon.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on March 15, 2008, 01:07:06 AM
I spend too much time getting edumacated by skewl to read very much.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: LMNO on March 17, 2008, 04:20:08 PM
I'm re-reading Goedel Escher Bach.  I last read it in 1990.

I'm not quite sure if I'm reading the same book... There's a lot more information in it, this time.
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Triple Zero on March 17, 2008, 05:11:46 PM
i'm really having trouble getting through it the second time. also because i mostly just wanna read about the Goedel proof. but i'm nearly there. :)
Title: Re: Seeing? Yes. But Reading? Not so sure.
Post by: Vene on March 17, 2008, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: Richter on March 13, 2008, 09:59:20 PMI agree with Payne, especiially in college, I had the fantastic skill to read every word on teh page of a dull text, but still miss the whole point entirely.
I've done that way too many times.  And I like to read, although, I haven't done enough of it recently.