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Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 05, 2004, 07:03:28 PM

Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 05, 2004, 07:03:28 PM
Anyone remember Titel and Poet of a poem about not giving in to death and determinism with the repetitive phrase "rage against the dying of the light"
....I heard it in school when I was like 16-17, but was drunk like twice a week

If you do you can send text to densortedragen@hotmail.com

Read only when female:
Yes I like some poetry but this doesn't mean I'm gay
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Bella on March 05, 2004, 08:39:47 PM
Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
Dylan Thomas

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 05, 2004, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomDo Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
Dylan Thomas

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

THX THX THX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Means a lot to me!
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Bella on March 05, 2004, 09:21:19 PM
Yer Welcome.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Malaul on March 05, 2004, 09:36:51 PM
of course bella would know that one!!!    :wink:
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Bella on March 05, 2004, 09:38:03 PM
Well, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: EvilPoet on March 05, 2004, 09:52:14 PM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: illusion on March 05, 2004, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
Who?
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: EvilPoet on March 05, 2004, 10:02:42 PM
Quote from: illusion
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
Who?
This guy (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?afl=sosr&oid=184).  8)
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: illusion on March 05, 2004, 10:08:45 PM
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: illusion
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
Who?
This guy (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?afl=sosr&oid=184).  8)
Ohhhh.
I thought maybe you were referring to this guy:
//www.bobdylan.com
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 05, 2004, 10:11:40 PM
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenRead only when female:
Yes I like some poetry but this doesn't mean I'm gay

I read this in one of my female moments and became confused - does this mean that you want all the guys to think you are gay?
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: EvilPoet on March 05, 2004, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: illusion
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: illusion
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
Who?
This guy (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?afl=sosr&oid=184).  8)
Ohhhh.
I thought maybe you were referring to this guy:
//www.bobdylan.com
I was and still am. Same guy - different websites.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Bella on March 06, 2004, 12:16:00 AM
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
You know I love Bob Dylan.
He's one of Eris's storytellers.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: EvilPoet on March 06, 2004, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
You know I love Bob Dylan.
He's one of Eris's storytellers.
(http://killerbutterfly.com/pics/evilgrin.gif)

QuoteQ: You wrote on the back of one album, "I accept chaos but does chaos accept me."

A: Chaos is a friend of mine. It's like I accept him, does he accept me.

Q: Do you see the world as chaos?

A: Truth is chaos. Maybe beauty is chaos.

Q: Poets like Eliot and Yeats--

A: I haven't read Yeats.

Q: they saw the world as chaos, accepted it as chaos and attempted to bring order from it. Are you trying to do that?

A: No. It exists and that's all there is to it. It's been here longer than I have. What can I do about it? I don't know what the songs I write are. That's all I do is write songs, right? Write. I collect things too.

Source: Bob Dylan Interview by Nora Ephron & Susan Edmiston (http://www.interferenza.com/bcs/interw/65-aug.htm)
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Bella on March 06, 2004, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
You know I love Bob Dylan.
He's one of Eris's storytellers.
(http://killerbutterfly.com/pics/evilgrin.gif)

QuoteQ: You wrote on the back of one album, "I accept chaos but does chaos accept me."

A: Chaos is a friend of mine. It's like I accept him, does he accept me.

Q: Do you see the world as chaos?

A: Truth is chaos. Maybe beauty is chaos.

Q: Poets like Eliot and Yeats--

A: I haven't read Yeats.

Q: they saw the world as chaos, accepted it as chaos and attempted to bring order from it. Are you trying to do that?

A: No. It exists and that's all there is to it. It's been here longer than I have. What can I do about it? I don't know what the songs I write are. That's all I do is write songs, right? Write. I collect things too.

Source: Bob Dylan Interview by Nora Ephron & Susan Edmiston (http://www.interferenza.com/bcs/interw/65-aug.htm)

Wow! Thanks.
I've long felt that Dylan is a true prophet of Eris.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: EvilPoet on March 06, 2004, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of Doom
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWell, I love the work of Dylan Thomas.
What about Bob Dylan?
You know I love Bob Dylan.
He's one of Eris's storytellers.
(http://killerbutterfly.com/pics/evilgrin.gif)

QuoteQ: You wrote on the back of one album, "I accept chaos but does chaos accept me."

A: Chaos is a friend of mine. It's like I accept him, does he accept me.

Q: Do you see the world as chaos?

A: Truth is chaos. Maybe beauty is chaos.

Q: Poets like Eliot and Yeats--

A: I haven't read Yeats.

Q: they saw the world as chaos, accepted it as chaos and attempted to bring order from it. Are you trying to do that?

A: No. It exists and that's all there is to it. It's been here longer than I have. What can I do about it? I don't know what the songs I write are. That's all I do is write songs, right? Write. I collect things too.

Source: Bob Dylan Interview by Nora Ephron & Susan Edmiston (http://www.interferenza.com/bcs/interw/65-aug.htm)

Wow! Thanks.
I've long felt that Dylan is a true prophet of Eris.
You're welcome. (http://killerbutterfly.com/pics/chaos-smilie.gif)
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 07, 2004, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenRead only when female:
Yes I like some poetry but this doesn't mean I'm gay

I read this in one of my female moments and became confused - does this mean that you want all the guys to think you are gay?

No, it means that I don't care if guys think I'm gay.
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Malaul on March 07, 2004, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragen
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenRead only when female:
Yes I like some poetry but this doesn't mean I'm gay

I read this in one of my female moments and became confused - does this mean that you want all the guys to think you are gay?

No, it means that I don't care if guys think I'm gay.
this is a guy secure in his manhood...
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 07, 2004, 08:00:05 PM
Quote from: Malaul The CaffeinatrixXx
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragen
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenRead only when female:
Yes I like some poetry but this doesn't mean I'm gay

I read this in one of my female moments and became confused - does this mean that you want all the guys to think you are gay?

No, it means that I don't care if guys think I'm gay.
this is a guy secure in his manhood...

Indeed I am ;)
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Malaul on March 08, 2004, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragen
Quote from: Malaul The CaffeinatrixXx
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragen
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenRead only when female:
Yes I like some poetry but this doesn't mean I'm gay

I read this in one of my female moments and became confused - does this mean that you want all the guys to think you are gay?

No, it means that I don't care if guys think I'm gay.
this is a guy secure in his manhood...

Indeed I am ;)
::grin::
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 08, 2004, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: Malaul The CaffeinatrixXx
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragen
Quote from: Malaul The CaffeinatrixXx
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragen
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenRead only when female:
Yes I like some poetry but this doesn't mean I'm gay

I read this in one of my female moments and became confused - does this mean that you want all the guys to think you are gay?

No, it means that I don't care if guys think I'm gay.
this is a guy secure in his manhood...

Indeed I am ;)
::grin::
:D  :D  :D
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 08, 2004, 09:05:18 PM
Oh. Okay.

Does liking poetry normally make people gay?
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Malaria test subject #777 on March 08, 2004, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: Guido FinucciOh. Okay.

Does liking poetry normally make people gay?

Nope, look at this nifty article Bella showed me today:
QuoteInside the mind of the gay sheep
By Lester Haines
Posted: 08/03/2004 at 11:24 GMT

Absolute proof that scientific research budgets are not always squandered on sniffing around the Martian surface or making particles go really fast comes with the latest findings of a team from the Oregon Health & Science University School.

Indeed, proponents of the theory that there may be structural differences between the brains of heterosexual and homosexual men will be delighted with the results of the latest research into gay sheep.

The team's probing of the workings of the minds of these furry Friends of Dorothy indicate that they have smaller ovine sexually dimorphic nuclei (oSDNs) than their straight counterparts.

These nerve cells are found in the hypothalamus, which is - among other things - responsible for sexual behaviour. Apparently, rams who prefer the company of ladies have larger oSDNs packed with more neurons.

The team tested 27 adult, 4-year-old sheep of various breeds. The group comprised eight males who preferred girls, nine with a penchant for boy-on-boy and 10 ewes whose sexual proclivities are not noted. Animal experts reckon that around 8 per cent of domestic rams demonstrate homosexual tendencies.

Team leader professor Charles Roselli said: "This particular study, along with others, strongly suggests that sexual preference is biologically determined in animals, and possibly in humans. The hope is that the study of these brain differences will provide clues to the processes involved in the development of heterosexual, as well as homosexual behaviour."

So there you have it. Mankind takes another significant step on the road towards ultimate scientific enlightenment. ®

src:http://theregister.co.uk/content/73/36074.html
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 08, 2004, 09:18:30 PM
Maybe the sheep read poetry too. I read some poetry this morning and I must admit it was the first time I noticed how much the carpet clashes with the curtains in the atrium.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 08, 2004, 09:31:20 PM
Quote from: Guido FinucciOh. Okay.

Does liking poetry normally make people gay?

no, it makes ignorant dumb males think that those males liking it are
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 08, 2004, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragenno, it makes ignorant dumb males think that those males liking it are

So, why did you feel the need to tell only the women that you weren't gay? It's not like they'd be thinking that anyway. I'm all confused now.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 08, 2004, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragenno, it makes ignorant dumb males think that those males liking it are

So, why did you feel the need to tell only the women that you weren't gay?

well if they would have, I'ld have made sure that all of them would still regard me as a compatible sex-toy (its a selfesteem boost thingy you know)

It's not like they'd be thinking that anyway.

hmmm, well women think often pesimistic about atractive males like 'there must be something wrong with him, somer flaw, secret....(cfr. sex and the city > these girls always ruin a possible relationship by entering it sceptic)

I'm all confused now.

that's a bonus for me  :twisted:
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 08, 2004, 09:54:41 PM
Hate to break it to you but self-love is really a kind of homosexuality but I'm sure that's okay seeing as how you're so secure and all.


P.S. Please learn to fucking quote. It took me a couple of tries to even spot your message and I'm sure that means I have missed other inane gems in the past.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 08, 2004, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: Guido FinucciHate to break it to you but self-love is really a kind of homosexuality

*loooool* yes I think there's truth in that....its not really love for the self though...rather a feelin of 'still-being-able-to-atract' (everyone likes that, those who deny are lyers )

but I'm sure that's okay seeing as how you're so secure and all.

hmmm, well yeah secure, overally yes
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 08, 2004, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragenhmmm, well yeah 'nad goblin secure, overally yes
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 08, 2004, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte Dragenhmmm, well yeah 'nad goblin secure, overally yes


nad goblin secure?....I guess LotR really did have some sideeffects upon New-Zealanders (except from everyone calling his sheep shadowfucks and Brego)
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 08, 2004, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenI guess LotR really did have some sideeffects upon New-Zealanders (except from everyone calling his sheep shadowfucks and Brego)

In as much as the filming of Schindler's List had any side effects on the Germans. You seem to be under the mis-apprehension that New Zealanders own sheep; in truth we leave the sheep farming to, well, the sheep farmers. Surely this appeals to your teutonic sense of efficiency.  :wink:

Oh yeah, and what sort of fanboy would pick Brego as a character from the Lord of the Rings? (I looked it up - apparently it is the name of Aragon's horse.)
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on March 09, 2004, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Guido Finucci
Quote from: Den Sorte DragenI guess LotR really did have some sideeffects upon New-Zealanders (except from everyone calling his sheep shadowfucks and Brego)

In as much as the filming of Schindler's List had any side effects on the Germans. You seem to be under the mis-apprehension that New Zealanders own sheep; in truth we leave the sheep farming to, well, the sheep farmers. Surely this appeals to your teutonic sense of efficiency.  :wink:


hmmm....you know my maternal language is dutch do you, so german-bashing doesn't realy work

Oh yeah, and what sort of fanboy would pick Brego as a character from the Lord of the Rings? (I looked it up - apparently it is the name of Aragon's horse.)

you had to look it up? shame on u!
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: PopeCorkyXXIII on March 25, 2004, 07:14:09 PM
Making my first post, never seen these boards before but I think I'm going to have to check it out more often.
Anyway, even though the topic has shifted, I thought I would point out that Bob Dylan's real name is Robert Zimmerman, and he took Dylan as his stage name because he was a fan of Dylan Thomas as well.
And here's my favorite Dylan poem:

AND DEATH SHALL HAVE NO DOMINION  By Dylan Thomas

    And death shall have no dominion.
    Dead men naked they shall be one
    With the man in the wind and the west moon;
    When their bones are picked clean and the clean bones gone,
    They shall have stars at elbow and foot;
    Though they go mad they shall be sane,
    Though they sink through the sea they shall rise again;
    Though lovers be lost love shall not;
    And death shall have no dominion.

    And death shall have no dominion.
    Under the windings of the sea
    They lying long shall not die windily;
    Twisting on racks when sinews give way,
    Strapped to a wheel, yet they shall not break;
    Faith in their hands shall snap in two,
    And the unicorn evils run them through;
    Split all ends up they shan't crack;
    And death shall have no dominion.

    And death shall have no dominion.
    No more may gulls cry at their ears
    Or waves break loud on the seashores;
    Where blew a flower may a flower no more
    Lift its head to the blows of the rain;
    Though they be mad and dead as nails,
    Heads of the characters hammer through daisies;
    Break in the sun till the sun breaks down,
    And death shall have no dominion.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Bella on March 25, 2004, 07:25:41 PM
Thank you.....that's beautiful.
And welcome to the forums.
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Das Raddiche on May 13, 2004, 04:42:16 PM
::shakes his fist with Dylan Thomas::
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Bella on May 13, 2004, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: Malignus The Malignant::shakes his fist with Dylan Thomas::
::Shakes her tamborine with another Dylan::
Title: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Den Sorte Dragen on May 13, 2004, 04:47:57 PM
@PopeCorkyXXIII

that was very beautiful indeed. Welcome a board! 8)
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: AFK on September 20, 2013, 12:43:15 AM
Bump
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Faust on September 20, 2013, 01:34:33 AM
Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on September 20, 2013, 12:43:15 AM
Bump

Jesus wept.
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 20, 2013, 05:53:52 AM
Quote from: Faust on September 20, 2013, 01:34:33 AM
Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on September 20, 2013, 12:43:15 AM
Bump

Jesus wept.

Wasn't Dylan Thomas that awful fucking poet you Irish spags foisted off on us, who basically keeled over and died in front of the bar he had infested in NYC?
Title: Re: rage...rage against the dying of the light
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 21, 2013, 06:56:15 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 05:53:52 AM
Quote from: Faust on September 20, 2013, 01:34:33 AM
Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on September 20, 2013, 12:43:15 AM
Bump

Jesus wept.

Wasn't Dylan Thomas that awful fucking poet you Irish spags foisted off on us, who basically keeled over and died in front of the bar he had infested in NYC?

I thought he was Welsh? But you otherwise are correct. Apparently from pneumonia.