Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Cramulus on May 09, 2008, 06:09:49 PM

Title: The Strange Times
Post by: Cramulus on May 09, 2008, 06:09:49 PM
I've had this one brewing for a long time. It still needs some fine tuning, and I would really like some honest feedback.

LOVE CRAMULUS






(http://www.fkylejenrette.com/Ebay%20photos/Gala%20close%20up%20Escerpt%201%20Salvador%20Dali%20Original%20Studio%20%20Litho.JPG)

The Strange TimesTM

This morning I looked out my window and I saw a unsettling and surreal painting sprawling out to the edge of the sunrise.


Jedi and zombies, vampires and ninjas, cat suits and kings, robots and chameleons, prophets and the profane, and everybody's together, eyes match forward, getting on the train.


We call it the Strange Times. This is the state of modern living.


We live in a world weirder than any realm any explorer could ever hope to map. This is a world where your nervous system, tangled with fractals creeping like vines, extends its tendrils into the modern jungle.


Rule 34: if it exists, there is pornography involving it. There are lollypops with bugs in them. People get surgery to look exactly like Barbie Dolls. There are humans that have become lizards and tigers. The guys in suits have all become cyborgs. Children don't just play Cowboys and Indians anymore, now they play Self Aware Artificial Intelligence versus the Benevolent Plutocracy.


It's the strange times and every human being, even the boring ones, are unspeakably, unknowably weird.


Everybody used to be into the same stuff, you know? Everybody was at cocktail hour, everybody was into the Beatles, everybody was bathing together in the mainstream. But something happened as the stream got quicker, it forked out into a million little tributaries. The mainstream isn't a river anymore, it's an acqueduct and a sewer all at the same time. It's underneath us, always moving, carrying along all these images and symbols and the familliar sound of the ocean. Ideas bump into each other, and sometimes they STICK, and that's how we get things like a music gadget you can masturbate with, or Japanese game shows dubbed with slapstick comedy banter. It's not because these ideas are good ideas in of themselves, it's because the mainstream keeps juxtaposing these bits of shrapnel in new ways. It's all being churned up, and the whirlpool keeps getting faster.


Nothing has prepared us for the Strange Times.


If you think you can study history and make some educated guess at what's going to happen next, you're dead wrong. Yeah humans are still humans - those poor shit flinging monkeys, trapped inside their nervous systems. When you zoom out, they're not individual drops of water, they're the swell and pulse of a wild ocean. That hasn't changed in six thousand years. But these times are different. There is wholesome sex in bathrooms and righteous violence in the highschools. Kingdoms make war upon each other not by sacking cities, but by cutting deep sea internet cables. Super-memes collide and bounce off each other like sumo wrestlers, every single cell in their bloated bodies contains a lonely and confused human being. Our language is not evolving quick enough to keep pace. Words like "Good", "Evil", "Know", "Learn", and "To Be" are woefully inadequate to describe the modern world. These are the dangers of modern living.


We spent thousands of years living in caves, working the fire and the rock. Then we caught the City virus, and the city spirit used us to build hundreds of temples. We spent generations in the sun, tilling the fields for the Nobles. Then we fled into darkness of the factories, the air choked with the din of industry. In hindsight, it seemed to happen in a predictable way. Build, destroy. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Sunrise, sunset. Now we're in a world that doesn't sleep. If it's light here, it's dark somewhere else, like a snake biting its tail. People on the other side of the world are your neighbors, but there is an interminable distance between you and the guy next door (who you've never actually met). You see them every day, but the people on the train will remain strangers, and stranger still.


Odd juxtapositions are the sign of the Strange Times. Comedians are doing impressions of the King. The Catholic Pope looks just like Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars. We sit in the dark around a flickering campfire and listen to the news man tell us stories about the Dangers of Modern Living. The news man knows that when you juxtapose an image with the story, it creates a new meaning which is somewhere in between the ear and the eye. And if we zoom out a tiny bit, the story is juxtaposed with the house that the TV is in. And if we zoom out, that house is inside your head, next to all these other symbols and squiggles and values.


And then at some point, someone thinks its sexy to dress up like a cartoon cat.


Nobody's prepared us for the Strange Times, and there are literally billions of humans that can't cope with it. They could deal with being serfs, they could deal with being soldiers, those are simple lives with simple choices. Now its come time to make a new story for themselves by assembling all these weird symbols into a lifestyle, a personality, a set of values. And they just don't know how to do it. They look to culture to get clues for how to swim and be happy and break even in this weird world, and all they see are porn models and ninja turtles and humane terrorism and the extreme left and the extreme right and nothing is centered.


If it was as easy as just dealing with the sun and the crops, however hard it might be, people would pull through and maintain. But there are million choices and complexities and nuances and shrapnel flying at you like throwing knives and pillow fights and semen and bananna cream pies.


We think it's best to laugh.

Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 09, 2008, 06:14:54 PM
 :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens: :mittens:
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Thurnez Isa on May 09, 2008, 06:17:19 PM
that is pretty damn good there Crammy
I like it alot
if you want i could over it word for word after work (though I dont know how much help I'll be)...
but my first impressions are ....  :mittens:
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: AFK on May 09, 2008, 06:30:24 PM
Good stuff.

Clearly humans have not only diversified from the cave man days in terms of occupations and work force, but in personality traits as well.  My personal theory is that the new media has only served to amplify that which probably has existed for awhile.  It is given light to corners that were left dark back in the early to mid 20th Century, and undoubtedly before that. 

Very thought provoking piece Cram. 
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 09, 2008, 06:41:48 PM
So I wonder if this is Really True, or only sorta true...

Were we all normal in the 1950's? Were we all mainstream, or did we just pretend?

Are we all unique now? Or do we only think we are... Have we really escaped the Ticky Tacky?

1. Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky,
Little boxes, little boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.

2. And the people in the houses
All go to the university,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
And there's doctors and there's lawyers
And business executives,
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.

3. And they all play on the golf-course,
And drink their Martini dry,
And they all have pretty children,
And the children go to school.
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university,
And they all get put in boxes
And they all come out the same.

4. And the boys go into business,
And marry, and raise a family,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.


(http://www.pineview-estates.com/assets/images/pineview-ariel-400.jpg)
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Triple Zero on May 09, 2008, 06:47:42 PM
CRAM MOTHERFUCKING MITTENS

:mittens:

damn that was good. it made me a bit dizzy and shivery. and the most amazing thing is that you're 169% RIGHT.

the only feedback i can give, is that it might not need the call-to-action+oneliner at the end, but maybe something very different, or perhaps nothing at all.
how about a hyperlink? i dunno to where, but the hyperlink as a symbol for the reader to take the plunge into this strange, strange world. (maybe PD.com)
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: hunter s.durden on May 09, 2008, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 09, 2008, 06:09:49 PM
I would really like some honest feedback.

You should hit the gym more, you're too scrawny to play an action hero.

But only if it doesn't take away from your writing, which is fantastic.


Quote from: Ratatosk on May 09, 2008, 06:41:48 PM
Were we all normal in the 1950's? Were we all mainstream, or did we just pretend?

You make an interesting point. I argue with my father that the good old days were an illusion. He was a poor little kid, but born into a white "good ol' boy" type family. White, meaning the sky was the limit for him. He says the 60's were bad, it led us to this era of "immoral decadence." (Feminism gets under his craw, methinks. Get back in the kitchen, bitch)

Looking at life then, sure you had some weird, but not like now. You had Beats, nuclear crisis, all that fun stuff from those Misfits songs... but not like today. Go back 50. Then 100. Then 500. There may have been mutants in those times, but not like modern living allows.

I hope I'm alive long enough to see how far we ride this crazy thing...
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Adios on May 09, 2008, 07:11:46 PM
That was a fantastic read. Very thought provoking. One thought I can't seem to get past though is how far we have come as a species and how we walk the razors edge to avoid slipping back hundreds of years. I think at best we are civilized savages and at worst pretending to be what we are not.

Moar please.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Cramulus on May 09, 2008, 07:13:06 PM
One of the major differences between now and, fuck, only fifteen years ago...

Humans are exposed to more information on a daily basis than they have in all of history. There is an overwhelming amount of information that is being fired at you, and you have to make very rapid choices about it (see also: thesis, antithesis, synthesis).

Like back in the Beatles Era (and PLEASE correct me on this if I'm off base), you either liked the Beatles or you didn't like the Beatles. Your opinion fell somewhere along that continuum. Sure there was also motown and jazz and whatever happening in the mainstream, but if the Beatles were as big today as they were then, lots of people would make it to adulthood without ever HEARING of them. That's how big the mainstream is. And that's why it's not a river anymore, it's a delta of tributaries.

This is the first decade where you can be into black metal but NOT death metal (genres which are indistinguishable to the 95% of the population). This is the first generation in which an average uneducated shlub can be interested in quantum mechanics and string theory without any formal education in physics.

I worked at this anime con a few years back and all these people were walking around with these metal headband things. I asked some chick, "what's the story with those? what anime is it from?" and she said, "oh, that's what ninjas wear." Really? That's what ninjas wear, not black catsuits and tabi boots? Really?? Why have I never heard of that?

These are the Strange Times, that's why. Symbols have new meaning on a daily basis.

and every day that goes by, MORE information is being blasted at us. There aren't enough hours in the day to keep up with it.






A serf knew that his grandfather tilled the same field that his grandkids would. The procession of new technology was moving so slowly it was invisible (unless you were at war).

But now it's the Strange Times. Go back in time and ask somebody from 1990 what the future will look like and he will not mention iPods, blogs, furries, GPS, facebook, alternate reality games, or internet piracy. Try to imagine what 2018 will look like -- you literally can't.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Adios on May 09, 2008, 07:23:52 PM
But now it's the Strange Times. Go back in time and ask somebody from 1990 what the future will look like and he will not mention iPods, blogs, furries, GPS, facebook, alternate reality games, or internet piracy. Try to imagine what 2018 will look like -- you literally can't.

:mittens:

I'm old enough to remember when the old Buck Rogers tv show was really happening in my life. Now they talk about how many gigs are in a car, whatever that means. Here's a paradox. When I was a kid we cropped tobacco by hand from the fields and put the leaf in a mule drawn croker sack sided sled. One night after such work we watched the moon landing. The world was a much larger place then.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Jasper on May 09, 2008, 07:32:24 PM
I like the OP.  I don't want to critique too much, because I don't put out much content myself, but if I said anything it'd be that it seems to ramble a bit towards the middle.  It gets pretty poetic at times, so the rules can't apply as strictly, but if it stuck with one idea at a time then skeptical people might digest it without rupturing something.

It bears repeating however, that this is made of win and chocolate.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: hunter s.durden on May 09, 2008, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 09, 2008, 07:13:06 PM
This is the first generation in which an average uneducated shlub can be interested in quantum mechanics and string theory without any formal education in physics.
Also: We are among the first to have internet, and large libraries, free to the public, and people ignore it.
Our societies neglect of libraries borders on criminal. I guess because we can afford to ignore knowledge.

"Hunter, how do you know about all this stuff? You barely got out of high school."

"You know that big building you go to once a year to get your taxes done? They have thousands upon thousands of volumes of knowledge in there. AND IT'S FREE!"
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Jasper on May 09, 2008, 07:37:29 PM
I used to go to the library more, when I couldn't just torrent texts.

Wait, I'm in a library as I type this..
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Cramulus on May 09, 2008, 08:20:57 PM
Cram   Good spot on the "weak" ending, zip - the "call to action" bit at the end. The function of that is becuase ultimately I'd like this to be an intro piece for a booklet.
Cram   The topic of the booklet being: Why is Discordia more relevant in the year 2008 than ever before?


[000]   well it's not really weak, a lot of rants end like that
[000]   but for this one, i felt it detracted from the rest a littlebit
Cram   I agree. the piece needs to get focused a bit. the "laughter is the best medicine"  should be expanded in a different rant
[000]   well i liked it this way, every paragraph showed another example of strangeness
[000]   i liked them all, but you could also cut one or two, because they also kind of say the same thing, it's just a matter how much to you want to drive the point down
Cram   good call. They should get spread out into other pieces
[000]   could
[000]   also more of those weird graphics
[000]   and i keep having to think about cyberpunk
[000]   because it revolves so much around the internet
Cram   yeah, the piece really needs some graphical accompanyment, some absurd pairings
Cram   serfs and cyberwarriors et al
[000]   and i also had to think of our new Global Runners Cabal
Cram   that's a great idea BTW
[000]   this bit: "Now we're in a world that doesn't sleep. If it's light here, it's dark somewhere else, like a snake biting its tail. People on the other side of the world are your neighbors"
[000]   i had to think of that, i was running, and knowing that on the other side of the world was this guy, Lysergic, hearing the same music, stopping and walking and running at the same time with me, i sort of looked down to the ground imagining that might be the direction he is now
[000]   (which was probably wrong, because australia isn't straight down from here, afaik)
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Roo on May 09, 2008, 08:58:28 PM
 :mittens:

To add my two cents...

QuoteThe Catholic Pope looks just like Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars.
:lulz:
Somehow I feel better knowing that I'm not the only person to think that.

Next: the bit with the zooming out could be matched with a bit about zooming in. I'm not sure how, exactly...that'd be up to you. But I think things can get very strange when you get down to the very small stuff. Or even just how strange individual's lives can be...the weirdness that creates the "Jedi and zombies, vampires and ninjas, cat suits and kings, robots and chameleons, prophets and the profane". Zooming out sort of unfocuses the picture, and I think zooming back in could tighten things up.

"...and nothing is centered."
Perhaps could be a whole other piece in itself. But maybe that could even be woven into the bit at the end about choosing to laugh. I don't know...not sure what I'm getting at besides the fact that that sentence resonated with me.

good stuff. :D
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Triple Zero on May 09, 2008, 09:03:20 PM
the zooming out is for showing the hyperpersonal structures that are present in today's world, these are getting stranger, because of information flow.

zooming in, you find humans, brains and cells. these haven't changed.

the medium is still the same, but the information written on it has taken on a life of its own.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on May 09, 2008, 09:13:41 PM
Quote from: triple zero on May 09, 2008, 09:03:20 PM
the zooming out is for showing the hyperpersonal structures that are present in today's world, these are getting stranger, because of information flow.

zooming in, you find humans, brains and cells. these haven't changed.

the medium is still the same, but the information written on it has taken on a life of its own.

That is a beautiful statement.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Roo on May 09, 2008, 09:16:20 PM
Quote from: triple zero on May 09, 2008, 09:03:20 PM
the zooming out is for showing the hyperpersonal structures that are present in today's world, these are getting stranger, because of information flow.

zooming in, you find humans, brains and cells. these haven't changed.

the medium is still the same, but the information written on it has taken on a life of its own.

Perhaps we are changing more than we realize. But even if we aren't, isn't that a little strange too?
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Golden Applesauce on May 09, 2008, 09:33:14 PM
For me, the strangeness of the world is exemplified in the internet.  It's just people talking to each other, which seems mundane until you realize that until now, you pretty much had to live within walking distance of someone.  Now you just need to share a language.  I suspect the Next Big Thing, the thing that will firmly set us in the information age, will be an automatic translator program that works and can handle conversation.

Look at us.  Never in the history of the world could people from the US, UK, the Netherlands, etc all hand out in the same coffee shop and chat.  Never before in the history of the world could I, sitting in my room in Ohio, play an after dinner game with someone from San Fransisco and someone from Brazil - maybe Korea too if I do it at the right time.

Individuals are just as unique as they've always been, but instant communications to anywhere allows the adopting of any subculture, rather that being limited to those that were present in your village.  Like Cram said about the Beetles - they were The Band in the US and UK not so long ago.  Not so long before that, before faster overseas communication, and transportation, no one in the US could have heard of them.  Now anyone who with a connection can compile music folders that represent music from every continent.  If the local American styles of television shows don't interest me, I'll just watch British and Japanese ones.

Impressive, right?  But the same thing goes for thinking.  Ideas get inbred too.  Now you can learn any philosophy, any worldview, any meme from your home.  And you can find discussion partners to hone your ideas with.  I don't think humans today are any more creative that humans of ages past, but good ideas frequently died for lack of improvement.  How many stories of scientific advances include the line, "And then he discovered a paper published in an obscure foreign journal..."?  Before then, the two ideas never would have come into contact with each other at all, never combined to form the revolutionary discovery.  Now the two scientists or philosophers or artists, where they would have formerly been relegated to distant towns, distant countries, distant continents, can come together to the same public bath, the same university, the same coffee house, the same forum online - and work together and build off each other.  An idea that might have died in an Indian peasant can kindle to life in an Indian foreign exchange student.

Have you heard of a series of anthologies called Flight?  It's the result of a bunch of authors of internet comics who got together and published a book - and the authors of the first one hail from France, Pittsburgh, Brazil, British Columbia, California, Hong Kong, Vietnam, and the United Kingdom.  They weren't trying to be multicultural.  They just couldn't help it.

Now imagine how much stranger this is going to get when co collaborators can speak disparately different languages.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Telarus on May 09, 2008, 10:16:36 PM
Very Nice Cram!

Here's a little rant I wrote as a "Profile" for an occultist group that tried to get started on LJ, then stalled. Kinda of the same line of thought. Keep in mind this was written for a specific audience, rip from it what you will:

QuoteWARNING: This reality subject to change. No warnings will be given.

One of the most mundane, yet perhaps one of the most mystical aspects of our existence, the ability to effect change, manipulating chaotic "raw data" into an ordered idea, appears to be rarely examined by most humans. It seems often taken for granted, marginalized and ignored.

From the simple act of summoning a soda from the fridge when thirsty, to invoking god-forms as a way of changing behavioral patterns. From clearing away the constant, cluttered, cramped confusion that our minds tend to dwell in daily with the techniques of Zen and other “no-mind” practices, to the ever frantic ordering and disordering of things physical and mental.

WE EFFECT CHANGE.

How conscious are we, the children of the human race, as to the influence we have over ourselves and our environments? Some may seek introspection, but many seem preoccupied with the everyday bureaucracy of life, wandering through their perception of reality in a half-awake daze. Various movements throughout history have recognized this. Some have leveraged this into large scale organizations bent on manipulating dazed followers. These organizations promised that if the followers just change a little, just align themselves with the GROUP, just this once....then EVERYTHING WILL BE OK, and they'll never have to change again. Instead of encouraging independent thought, each question that betrays a spark of consciousness is chased off by the barking of Dogma.

“Don't believe them for a moment
For a second, do not believe, my friend
When you are down, them are not coming
With a helping hand
Of course there is no US and THEM
But THEM, they do not think the same...

-Illumination, Gogol Bordello

Others have formed small esoteric or mystical societies to explore the possibilities of Awaking the individual in some sense. They aspired to cast off the drowsy slumber of the majority and coming to terms with the life altering realizations which that Awakening brings. Of forming communities of Awakened individuals. Many developments have occurred within this movement which seem almost parallel in concept. Some societies encoded their discoveries and techniques with symbols and metaphors local to the culture that incubated them. Ambassadors from one society approached others with trembling trepidation, curious as to the parallels they saw in others' works, confused by the unfamiliar symbols and foreign god-forms.

Then, suddenly, EVERYTHING CHANGED. With the introduction of telecommunications and the world-wide web, you could approach a strange subject in the manner that made you comfortable. With a simple evocation of “the Google” one could find overwhelming information on any esoteric subject imaginable. You could find many people with many, many opinions about even the most esoteric knowledge. This too caused problems. Information overload. How do you tell which information has value, and which does not? Who do you Believe?

“V - A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.“
-5th Commandment of the Pentabarf, Principia Discordia
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: NeophyteNihilist on May 10, 2008, 07:45:56 AM
First of all, excellent work! :mittens:
I'll be including this essay on my dorm room door next year.

Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 09, 2008, 07:13:06 PM
Humans are exposed to more information on a daily basis than they have in all of history. There is an overwhelming amount of information that is being fired at you, and you have to make very rapid choices about it (see also: thesis, antithesis, synthesis).
I think you are missing a key component of the madness of the present.  Not only are we being bombarded by amazing amounts of new information everyday, but that information is often completely decontextualized.  Just look at the average television news broadcast.  They present sensational stories on a variety of topics in short segments usually not much longer than 45 seconds.  There is no relevance to previous stories and little background information is given on each subject.  The information is not put into any sort of context, preventing the viewer from gaining an authentic understanding of any subject or even being particularly concerned with what has been shown to them.  Any opinions gained from such small bits of information are essentially subjective as the event is only inadequately shown from one point of view.  The result is that everyone ends up with a clusterfuck of fragmented "Trivial Pursuit" information with no way to create a meaningful worldview using all (or even most) of it.  Its no wonder our culture is made of "bits of shrapnel" juxtaposed in weird ways when our values, opinions, and beliefs are exactly the same, strange arrangements of decontextualized psuedo-knowledge. 

I probably shouldn't have written this at 2:30, I apologize if it makes no sense.  And yes, I have been reading "Amusing Ourselves to Death."
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: hooplala on May 13, 2008, 03:12:54 AM
I thought I already responded to this, but yes... MITTENS all around.


Funnily enough, a friend and I were just talking about something sort of similar the other night... my friend is a professional illustrator, whereas I just draw, but not well enough for anyone to want to pay me... but the crux of the conversation was that 100 years ago (or maybe even just 30-40 years ago) my talent would have been in high demand... but those were the days when you were only exposed to people within maybe 50 miles of where you lived.  In those days you usually only had a few people who could do any one thing... but today, I literally have to compete with the ENTIRE WORLD.

If someone wants an illustration, they can use my friend here in Toronto, or they can use Suu in Rhode Island, or some asshole from France or Japan...

I could compete with Jimmy the Fuckwad from Lobo Ontario, but all the other people?  NO WAY.
Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: AFK on May 15, 2008, 05:25:47 PM
So, I posted the OP over at the SJGAMES forums the other day (giving Cram credit of course).  Today, the site appears to have crashed. We found their weakness!!!  Seriously though, before it did, there were good reviews from a couple of the users.   

Title: Re: The Strange Times
Post by: Triple Zero on May 16, 2008, 09:37:16 PM
a friend of mine, she studies literary and cultural studies, said about this article:

"it's space-time compression, baby", which is a quote by Harvey The post-modern condition (except for the "baby", bit)

apparently, what she learns about has a lot of parallels with the stuff that is discussed in the Art of Memetics, and also in the Black Iron Prison concept.
i'll get her to read the BIP next :)

and now we're going to watch that video about memes on ted.com (memetic warfare thread in TFYS)

i hope to get some interesting references, papers and ideas from this.