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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Iason Ouabache on May 18, 2008, 09:00:13 AM

Title: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Iason Ouabache on May 18, 2008, 09:00:13 AM
http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11326188

For sheer adrenaline, the new computer game "foldit", does not match the likes of "Grand Theft Auto IV". But for the world's obsessive problem solvers, a three-dimensional Tetris which allows them to help design a new life-saving vaccine seems certain to be a hit.

"foldit" is the latest incarnation of a project, called Rosetta@home, that uses spare computer time, via a screensaver, to work out how proteins fold. Proteins are the building blocks of life inside cells; they are first made as long chains of molecules and work properly only after they have folded into their final shape. But understanding the rules of protein folding remains one of biology's central problems.

The existing program uses trial and error, and pre-programmed mathematical rules that govern folding as understood today. But users of the screensaver told David Baker, a biochemist at the University of Washington and lead scientist on Rosetta@home, they could do better. So Dr Baker, Zoran Popovic, a computer scientist at the University of Washington, and graduate students Seth Cooper and Adrien Treuille set about creating a compelling computer game.

Players use their computers to fold proteins. The more chemically stable the folded protein becomes, the more points the players are awarded. In trials of the game hundreds of players were given 40 protein puzzles to solve (for the trials, the folding solutions were already known). Many of the best players were not scientists but were able to find the correct structure faster than computers.

The next big step will be to give players proteins for which the optimal folding is not known. They will then be doing cutting-edge research in protein-structure prediction. If all goes well, the game will move on to protein design this summer, by including options that allow players to modify sections of the protein. This will allow them to design a protein that blocks the action of a virus.

Although this may strike some as a remarkable bit of scientific outsourcing, the group is adamant that players who make breakthroughs will share in the scientific glory. This places parents of young "foldit" enthusiasts in a quandary: should they tell their children to stop playing games and get on with their homework, or encourage them to continue playing and possibly share in a Nobel prize?


http://fold.it
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Jasper on May 18, 2008, 10:55:18 AM
Wow, whoa, shit yeah.

Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Triple Zero on May 18, 2008, 01:47:48 PM
awesome idea!

buy it, use it, break it, fix it, trash it, change it, mail, upgrade it
charge it, pwn it, zoom it, press it, snap it, work it, quick erase it

write it, cut it, paste it, save it, load it, check it, quick rewrite it
plug it, play it, burn it, rip it, drag it, drop it, zip, unzip it

lock it, fill it, curl it, find it, view it, code it, jump, unlock it
surf it, scroll it, pose it, click it, cross it, crack it, switch, update it

name it, read it, tune it, print it, scan it, send it, fax, rename it
touch it, bring it, pay it, watch it, turn it, leave it, stock, format it

Technologic.
Technologic.


(Daft Punk - Technologic)
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: e on May 19, 2008, 07:17:57 PM
That's really cool.

And oh man, it has the best tagline ever:

Solve Puzzles FOR SCIENCE
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Jasper on May 19, 2008, 07:29:40 PM
I'm stuck on puzzle 5-1, within 3 points of success and I'm STUUCK!!

:argh: It's rough solving the world's problems.
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: LMNO on May 19, 2008, 07:31:12 PM
Quote from: triple zero on May 18, 2008, 01:47:48 PM
awesome idea!

buy it, use it, break it, fix it, trash it, change it, mail, upgrade it
charge it, pwn it, zoom it, press it, snap it, work it, quick erase it

write it, cut it, paste it, save it, load it, check it, quick rewrite it
plug it, play it, burn it, rip it, drag it, drop it, zip, unzip it

lock it, fill it, curl it, find it, view it, code it, jump, unlock it
surf it, scroll it, pose it, click it, cross it, crack it, switch, update it

name it, read it, tune it, print it, scan it, send it, fax, rename it
touch it, bring it, pay it, watch it, turn it, leave it, stock, format it

Technologic.
Technologic.


(Daft Punk - Technologic)


I was wondering where Busta Rhymes stole that from...
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Jasper on May 19, 2008, 07:31:48 PM
Nevermind, shit's easy.
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: e on May 20, 2008, 04:51:47 PM
QuoteFor Puzzle 50, the top groups were Something Awful, Berkeley, Temporary Insanity, Carnegie Mellon, and DSN @ Home


This just amuses me because SA beat out Berkeley and Carnegie Mellon.
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Jasper on May 20, 2008, 10:42:24 PM
Goons don't have an unintelligent rep.  Quite the reverse.
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: e on May 20, 2008, 10:43:46 PM
Sure, but Berkely and Carnegie Mellon.

I don't know, a lot of the time when I think SA I think "Troll"
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Jasper on May 20, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
When I think "troll" I usually think "clever humorist", which just goes to show how broken I am.
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: e on May 21, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
Troll, n. - Someone who is easily bored and spends too much time on the internet.
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Faust on May 24, 2008, 02:49:14 PM
thats not what a troll is.
Title: Re: Play Video Game, Win a Nobel Prize!
Post by: Jasper on May 24, 2008, 06:09:02 PM
No, but the wiki is very informative.