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Title: what is the name of the 10th planet?
Post by: nodaystowaste on March 20, 2004, 06:06:46 AM
what does the discovery of the 10th planet do to the whole horoscope thing?
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Post by: Das Raddiche on March 20, 2004, 06:18:21 AM
it adds a radish and a couple of angry badgers
Title: you dont know
Post by: nodaystowaste on March 20, 2004, 06:28:19 AM
you dont know
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Post by: Das Raddiche on March 20, 2004, 06:36:28 AM
you might think that  :twisted:
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Post by: nodaystowaste on March 20, 2004, 06:43:33 AM
or...i might not....what do you know?
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Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2004, 06:50:03 AM
exactly :D
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Post by: Das Raddiche on March 20, 2004, 07:14:17 AM
the preceeding was me not logged in
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Post by: EvilPoet on March 20, 2004, 08:15:29 AM
Quotewhat is the name of the 10th planet?
Sedna, A Planet-Like Object (http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2004/split/677-1.html)
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Post by: DJ Zelian on March 20, 2004, 03:55:38 PM
Whatever happened to Quaoar, anyway?
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Post by: EvilPoet on March 20, 2004, 04:17:05 PM
Quote from: DJ ZelianWhatever happened to Quaoar, anyway?
Frequently Asked Questions About Quaoar (http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~chad/quaoar/)
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Post by: Out of the Wasteland on March 20, 2004, 10:08:45 PM
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quotewhat is the name of the 10th planet?
Sedna, A Planet-Like Object (http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2004/split/677-1.html)

:x  They shoulda named it Eric Estrada. :x
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Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on March 21, 2004, 01:03:00 AM
I claim Sedna for all of Discordia!
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Post by: Mighty Cthulu of R'yleh on March 21, 2004, 03:16:08 AM
i have ate sedna!
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Post by: Tallgeese on March 21, 2004, 03:16:13 AM
Quote from: St. Hugh, KSCI claim Sedna for all of Discordia!

I claim you, for all of Sedna!
Title: sedna
Post by: nodaystowaste on March 21, 2004, 08:26:12 AM
SEDNA IS THE PLANET OF DISCORDIA!
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Post by: St. Pynchon on March 21, 2004, 04:02:30 PM
Dibs on the Oort Cloud
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Post by: ~~~~Closed~~~~ on March 25, 2004, 02:35:30 PM
Quote from: Malignus The Malignantit adds a radish and a couple of angry badgers

do you have some sort of raddish fetish?
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Post by: Tokemaster on March 25, 2004, 04:44:30 PM
I sank Sedna, befor anyone got time to eat it.
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Post by: Trollax on March 26, 2004, 04:36:48 AM
Quote from: nodaystowastewhat does the discovery of the 10th planet do to the whole horoscope thing?

Well usually the horoscope is not significantly altered... The discovery of Chiron in 1977 kind of threw things up into debate, usually what happens is that the prevailing consciousness of the time of discover gets attributed to it.
Physical facts for Chiron can be found here  (http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/chironfact.html)
While an astrological exploration can be found here (http://www.stariq.com/pagetemplate/article.asp?pageid=866)

As to Sedna, I'm guessing that seeing as how it's orbital period is roughly the same as the time it takes earth to change pole stars, I'm guessing it will be given a more universal effect, something along the lines of periods relating to states in civilisation. Just another piece of "proof" of the underlying order in the universe in our own minds.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 26, 2004, 06:24:10 AM
Quote from: nodaystowastewhat does the discovery of the 10th planet do to the whole horoscope thing?

It does nothing more than it did before if you pretend it's not there.
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Post by: cyberus on March 26, 2004, 07:02:03 AM
On a similar note, has anyone ever heard of the Planet X Theory?  I remember reading something about it about a year ago, and how it's dead set to smash into earth in like 2012 or something. . .
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 26, 2004, 07:08:19 AM
Quote from: cyberusOn a similar note, has anyone ever heard of the Planet X Theory?  I remember reading something about it about a year ago, and how it's dead set to smash into earth in like 2012 or something. . .

Cool. Doom. I'll have to look into that.

Doom is your friend, you know.
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Post by: cyberus on March 26, 2004, 07:13:36 AM
No, doom Is your friend. . .Next time he shows up, falls aslepp on my couch, then wakes up and pisses on my cat, and goes on to eat all of the cheetos, I think I might just. . . .well. . . .IT'LL BE SOMETHIGN BAD!!
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 26, 2004, 07:19:48 AM
Quote from: cyberusNo, doom Is your friend. . .Next time he shows up, falls aslepp on my couch, then wakes up and pisses on my cat, and goes on to eat all of the cheetos, I think I might just. . . .well. . . .IT'LL BE SOMETHIGN BAD!!

That wasn't Doom, it was his evil transvestite twin sister, Larry. Larry's evil.

Yes.
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Post by: Bella on March 26, 2004, 07:20:30 AM
Actually, Doom is my friend.
He's also my boss - I'm his oracle.
I know fer sher you're right about the cheetos....he just loves them.

PS: I have to say, just for the record, that Doom has never once pissed on my cat, tho.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 26, 2004, 07:33:09 AM
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomPS: I have to say, just for the record, that Doom has never once pissed on my cat, tho.

That's because only Larry does that.
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Post by: Lord_Caramac on March 26, 2004, 09:00:31 AM
I thought the planet was called "Rupert" or so.
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Post by: on March 26, 2004, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: cyberusOn a similar note, has anyone ever heard of the Planet X Theory?  I remember reading something about it about a year ago, and how it's dead set to smash into earth in like 2012 or something. . .

How nice, wormwood is scheduled to show up right around the end of the mayan calender. Good to know, the end of Kali Yuga seems kind of boring so far.

Its probably bullshit, but we'll find out.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 26, 2004, 10:37:04 AM
Quote from: Zombie¬?
Quote from: cyberusOn a similar note, has anyone ever heard of the Planet X Theory?  I remember reading something about it about a year ago, and how it's dead set to smash into earth in like 2012 or something. . .

How nice, wormwood is scheduled to show up right around the end of the mayan calender. Good to know, the end of Kali Yuga seems kind of boring so far.

Its probably bullshit, but we'll find out.


i've heard alot of bullshti concerning this.

anyopne remember the exact date? i want o mark it on my calendar so i can get the day off from work :mrgreen:
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Post by: EvilPoet on March 26, 2004, 02:42:02 PM
Quote from: horab
Quote from: Zombie¬?
Quote from: cyberusOn a similar note, has anyone ever heard of the Planet X Theory?  I remember reading something about it about a year ago, and how it's dead set to smash into earth in like 2012 or something. . .
How nice, wormwood is scheduled to show up right around the end of the mayan calender. Good to know, the end of Kali Yuga seems kind of boring so far.

Its probably bullshit, but we'll find out.
i've heard alot of bullshti concerning this.

anyopne remember the exact date? i want o mark it on my calendar so i can get the day off from work :mrgreen:

Quote from: Ask an AstronomerDoes "Planet X" exist, and could it come close to Earth? (http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=95)

Is there really a 10th planet?

Many people are fascinated by the idea of finding another planet in our Solar System, but as yet there is no good evidence that there is another large body beyond Pluto.

There are several "Planet X" stories that circulate from time to time in the popular press.

The more scientific Planet X story concerns several astronomers who, after analyzing the orbits of a large number of comets, suggest that there may be a large body in the Oort cloud which is disrupting the orbits of some of the long-period comets that we see, so that they swing into the inner Solar System. Other astronomers have done a similar analysis, though, and they do not see any evidence for a planet. Most astronomers would need better evidence to be convinced of the existence of another planet.

A less scientific Planet X story concerns Zechariah Sitchin, who published a book called The Twelfth Planet in 1976. (Ancient peoples considered the Sun and the Moon to be planets because the move with respect to the stars, so those plus the usual nine give a total of eleven planets that we can all agree on.) Through a combination of some suspect Sumerian archaeology and a complete ignorance of the laws of physics, Sitchin cooked up a hypothesis about a giant planet named Marduk or Nibiru. According to Sitchin, Nibiru swings through the inner Solar System every 3600 years, and the planet and its angel-like alien inhabitants are responsible for everything from the tilt of Uranus to the origin of the human race to the parting of the Red Sea.

I hear that some follower of Sitchin recently predicted the return of Nibiru in the spring or early summer of 2003. Needless to say, Nibiru has yet to be detected by astronomers.

A large planet that plunges through the inner Solar System every few millennia would have strong gravitational effects on the orbits of the planets which would be quite obvious, and astronomers see no sign of such events. However, it is still possible that there is large undiscovered planet in the outer Solar System. If it is far from the Sun, it will be very hard to detect because it will be dim and hard to see, and its gravitational effects will be very subtle. (Thus the scientific debate over the cometary orbit data.)

Those are the two most common Planet X stories. If you were thinking about yet another 10th planet story, please don't hesitate to email me.

Addendum (June 2002): Because we've gotten several questions about this, and because I obviously don't have enough real work to do, I worked out Nibiru's current distance from the Sun assuming that its orbital period is 3600 years, its perihelion distance (closest approach to the Sun) is 1 AU (the Earth's distance from the Sun), and that it would reach perihelion in June of 2003, one year from now. Nibiru would be 4.7 AU from the Sun. Closer than Jupiter. And Nibiru is supposedly three to four times larger than Earth, about the size of Uranus or Neptune [not larger than Jupiter, as this answer previously stated. --BRS]

Has anybody noticed a new planet in the sky? 'Cause I sure haven't, and neither have any of the other amateur astronomers, professional astronomers, or enthusiastic skygazers in the world.

Update (October 2003): Hmmmm . . . still no Planet X! I wonder if it's just been delayed?
See also: The Planet X Saga (http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/)
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 26, 2004, 07:57:05 PM
Sorry to be completely off-topic, but, EvilPoet, is that a Jamie Hewlett drawing in your avatar? It sure looks like Hewlett...
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 26, 2004, 08:33:12 PM
well i was thinking mroe abotu the 2012 as a doomsday thing. terrence meckenna's timewave zero equation "theory" apparently says that all creative forces on arth will cease soemtime in 2012(apparently the same date given by the mayan calendar)
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Post by: EvilPoet on March 26, 2004, 11:05:57 PM
Quote from: PlaidikinsSorry to be completely off-topic, but, EvilPoet, is that a Jamie Hewlett drawing in your avatar? It sure looks like Hewlett...
I'm not familiar with Jamie Hewlett's art so I have no idea.
I found the avatar here (http://www.avatarity.com/category/99/) - it doesn't say who the artist is.
Title: 2012
Post by: Anonymous on March 27, 2004, 12:09:57 AM
the date for the end of the mayan calender is 12/21-23/2012
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Post by: nodaystowaste on March 27, 2004, 12:10:56 AM
last post is mine
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Post by: Guido Finucci on March 27, 2004, 12:48:58 AM
However, there is some debate about where the Georgian and Mayan Calendars actually correlate so the real answer is that it is sometime between 2012 and 2018 and each authority with an opinon on the subject can narrow it down quite a lot more than that but not too many of them agree. Most of the guesses fall in December of 2012 or 2013 if memory serves.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 27, 2004, 12:54:43 AM
so who wants to get together for an end of the kali yuga party?
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Post by: Bella on March 27, 2004, 12:56:43 AM
moi
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Post by: cyberus on March 27, 2004, 01:17:26 AM
I'm down. . .We should rob a bank, and rent out a really fancy hotel with the money, and send some to everyone to pay airfare and all that :twisted:
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 27, 2004, 05:51:21 AM
Quote from: EvilPoet
Quote from: PlaidikinsSorry to be completely off-topic, but, EvilPoet, is that a Jamie Hewlett drawing in your avatar? It sure looks like Hewlett...
I'm not familiar with Jamie Hewlett's art so I have no idea.
I found the avatar here (http://www.avatarity.com/category/99/) - it doesn't say who the artist is.

Okay, after surprisingly little searching around, I found out that, yes, it is Hewlett. It also happens to be a drawing of Death, from the legendary Sandman comics by Neil Gaiman.

Anyway, Hewlett is the creator of a cult british feminist comic about a very wierd girl called Tank Girl. I haven't gotten to read the comics myself, but I adore the movie. All Discordians should watch that movie. Just because. If only to see the kangaroo-men.

Link to a site about Tank Girl, where I also found the picture

http://www.twisted.org.uk/tg/
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Post by: EvilPoet on March 27, 2004, 06:56:17 AM
Quote from: PlaidikinsLink to a site about Tank Girl, where I also found the picture

http://www.twisted.org.uk/tg/
I also loved the movie Tank Girl. Cool link, thanks! :D
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Post by: on March 27, 2004, 09:30:44 AM
Tank Girl is a genius.
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Post by: on March 27, 2004, 10:19:36 AM
I'm suprised I didnt notice that Death was EvilPoets' avatar.
I guess I never even bothered to look at it (sorry).
Title: Planets
Post by: fullmooner on March 28, 2004, 10:30:17 PM
I always was beholden that the 10th planet was Arcadia.
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Post by: on March 29, 2004, 01:31:43 AM
The 10th planet is arcadia, the 11th is Erebus, the 12th is Valhalla, and the 13th is New Jersey
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 01:46:45 AM
Quote from: Zombie¬?
Quote from: cyberusOn a similar note, has anyone ever heard of the Planet X Theory?  I remember reading something about it about a year ago, and how it's dead set to smash into earth in like 2012 or something. . .

How nice, wormwood is scheduled to show up right around the end of the mayan calender. Good to know, the end of Kali Yuga seems kind of boring so far.

Its probably bullshit, but we'll find out.

Kali Yuga started in the 11th century and is set to go for 40,000 years...

I think 2012 is being a little premature.

Besides... I keep a little list in my head of all the millenium prophecies that don't come to pass...

Millenium bug
Nuclear submarine explosion in mediterranean circa 1999 (murmansk is more likely.)
Black dwarf causing massive tidal effects on earth.
Red meteors raining from the sky circa sept 2003 caused by black dwarf pulling them in from oort cloud
Pole shift at planetary alignment
Pole shift 5/5/2000
Pole shift at planetary alignment when earth is on opposite side of sun to 7 other planets.
Viral outbreak that kills millions Circa 1999
Tidal wave hits east coast of australia during sydney olympics
Massive earthquake in California causing LA to sink
End of the world failing to occur in 1000 AD
Satan failing to turn up in 666 or 1666
Comets and their consistent failure to hit earth (although that's not to say this isn't plausible but I doubt they set their watches by our calendar)
Anything else I missed? Apart from the whacked out ones like heaven's gate, harmonic convergences, atlantis, not changing over to the mayan calendar, the raelians and such?

EDIT:

OOOH... HOW COULD I FORGET?!?!?!

Tyler and Cthulhu devouring the entire world. Get yer bibs folks them's good eatin'!
:lol:
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Post by: on March 29, 2004, 01:48:40 AM
Once again, that is why I remain skeptical.
But hope still lives, deep in my heart, that our population might get drastically reduced by some global disaster before we can use up all of our natural resources. While this might seem cruel, it is cruel only to the short sighted, any drastic reduction of population could only serve to lengthen the life-span of the human race at this point. None the less, I could never willingly bring this to pass, only chaos or our natural short sighted stupidity would bring it about.

Kali Yuga started in the 11th century?
Man, my math is off.
None the less, I could see that making sense.
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 01:50:23 AM
Quote from: Zombie¬?Once again, that is why I remain skeptical.
But hope still lives, deep in my heart, that our population might get drastically reduced by some global disaster before we can use up all of our natural resources. While this might seem cruel, it is cruel only to the short sighted, any drastic reduction of population could only serve to lengthen the life-span of the human race at this point.

Well if there was a more consistent effort to colonise rtather than militarise space at this point we might have some breathing room... Although I agree with Kim Robinson on the idea that all the colonies would end up corporate states and we'd end up having to protect the workers from their own companies.
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Post by: on March 29, 2004, 01:53:04 AM
Quote from: Joinee St. Trollax, ODD
Quote from: Zombie¬?Once again, that is why I remain skeptical.
But hope still lives, deep in my heart, that our population might get drastically reduced by some global disaster before we can use up all of our natural resources. While this might seem cruel, it is cruel only to the short sighted, any drastic reduction of population could only serve to lengthen the life-span of the human race at this point.

Well if there was a more consistent effort to colonise rtather than militarise space at this point we might have some breathing room... Although I agree with Kim Robinson on the idea that all the colonies would end up corporate states and we'd end up having to protect the workers from their own companies.

Due to the vast amount of resources and time involved in colonizing space (being that it takes many years to get anywhere at all), I assure you that colonies would start as corporate states, but theyd' have their independence before anybody knew what was going on. Thats part of the reason america has its independence (if it was easy for the british to mobilize their forces across the atlantic, theyd me much more of an empire, but lag time kills.)

The problem is that we are short sighted, America has the resources to terraform mars within fifty years, but we arent doing it. Why? We spend too much money on high tech military gadgets and we neglect our space program.
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 02:00:44 AM
Quote from: Zombie¬?
Quote from: Joinee St. Trollax, ODD
Quote from: Zombie¬?Once again, that is why I remain skeptical.
But hope still lives, deep in my heart, that our population might get drastically reduced by some global disaster before we can use up all of our natural resources. While this might seem cruel, it is cruel only to the short sighted, any drastic reduction of population could only serve to lengthen the life-span of the human race at this point.

Well if there was a more consistent effort to colonise rtather than militarise space at this point we might have some breathing room... Although I agree with Kim Robinson on the idea that all the colonies would end up corporate states and we'd end up having to protect the workers from their own companies.

Due to the vast amount of resources and time involved in colonizing space (being that it takes many years to get anywhere at all), I assure you that colonies would start as corporate states, but theyd' have their independence before anybody knew what was going on. Thats part of the reason america has its independence (if it was easy for the british to mobilize their forces across the atlantic, theyd me much more of an empire, but lag time kills.)

The problem is that we are short sighted, America has the resources to terraform mars within fifty years, but we arent doing it. Why? We spend too much money on high tech military gadgets and we neglect our space program.

Let's not forget that old stephen baxter quote:
"NASA is designed to keep people out of space."
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 02:37:02 AM
I was to understand, the planet x that you refer to is not going to crash into earth, it will meld and combine, creating and destroying along the way. Mars USED to have life on it, it was destroyed with earth was created. In 2012 is due for Arcadia to pass back over, consuming us and creating another in its place. Perpetual motion of centrifugal forces.....yada yada. Anyways, the Myan calandar is one of the main indicators of the 2012 theory, as was the coming of Jesus actually. I personally think he came from Arcadia to see if we were ready with our imaginations vs technology. We are not yet, and time is running out people!!!
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 02:38:22 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerI was to understand, the planet x that you refer to is not going to crash into earth, it will meld and combine, creating and destroying along the way. Mars USED to have life on it, it was destroyed with earth was created. In 2012 is due for Arcadia to pass back over, consuming us and creating another in its place. Perpetual motion of centrifugal forces.....yada yada. Anyways, the Myan calandar is one of the main indicators of the 2012 theory, as was the coming of Jesus actually. I personally think he came from Arcadia to see if we were ready with our imaginations vs technology. We are not yet, and time is running out people!!!

*Grabs tin pot helmet*

No wait... This is a chamber pot... Damn...
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 02:40:47 AM
Wet hair.....and that strange yellow liquid......must be an omen....
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 02:44:17 AM
But seriously for a moment... after many years of worrying about apocalypse and earth changes, seeing and hearing signs that never come to pass I have actively spent time tearing into everything from biblical armageddon to a cascade of transcendent consciousness caused by singing angels and the return of christ consciousness. What are we going to believe next? We're so unhappy with our world and the way we live our lives that we look to all these various things to take away the unworthy and leave only the people we like on the earth. It doesn't work like that. If you want change you've got to take charge of the future yourself. In all the things I've been told about myself, all the things I've learned I have never once heard the words "prophecy" and "destiny." It's all a choice in the end.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 02:44:36 AM
I Do know this much......supposedly there is a seven pointed star in Arcadia that reflects our sun. When the star is completely brightened out by the reflection, our time for playing catch up has come and we are left to join arcadia with the dreams and nightmares we currently have. I just hope my antidepressants were working the night before.......Oh-oh
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 02:56:39 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerI Do know this much......supposedly there is a seven pointed star in Arcadia that reflects our sun. When the star is completely brightened out by the reflection, our time for playing catch up has come and we are left to join arcadia with the dreams and nightmares we currently have. I just hope my antidepressants were working the night before.......Oh-oh

well don't let me interrupt your festivities... I'll go on doing what I do; not worrying about aliens, rogue planets that manage not to freeze up, and the end of the world according to a calendar that has miraculously managed to outlive a society, the majority of the written language of... we can't translate.
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 29, 2004, 02:57:21 AM
is till say it's agreat excuse for a party. what say you?
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Post by: Bella on March 29, 2004, 03:01:16 AM
I say count me in on any party plans, k?
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 03:04:10 AM
We can cook all the discordian recipes and have a great supper at least.....a last supper? uh oh.....
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 03:06:24 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerWe can cook all the discordian recipes and have a great supper at least.....a last supper? uh oh.....

Well if it is a last supper I'm going to agree with Michelle laurie on this:

My last meal... Get a truck... fill it with food... then deep fry the truck... and BACK IT IN! Then when that's done you'd better have another truck ready.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 03:09:48 AM
Which truck do you suppose is the tastiest?


Anyways, about what I heard of Arcadia....it is a planet develed of all imaginations and technologies...all dreams and sciences, facts and fantasies. Delusions are us, but some of us made our delusions real and our sweetest dreams are livable. If there IS a place as advanced as that psychologically that is waiting for us to catch up to it, then are we anywhere ready? I suppose we are getting close.....hell, tv will prove that. But inside,  are our ways of dealing with our madnesses [be them strokes of genius or just insanity at its finest] within close enough range by 2012?
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 03:13:27 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerWhich truck do you suppose is the tastiest?


Anyways, about what I heard of Arcadia....it is a planet develed of all imaginations and technologies...all dreams and sciences, facts and fantasies. Delusions are us, but some of us made our delusions real and our sweetest dreams are livable. If there IS a place as advanced as that psychologically that is waiting for us to catch up to it, then are we anywhere ready? I suppose we are getting close.....hell, tv will prove that. But inside,  are our ways of dealing with our madnesses [be them strokes of genius or just insanity at its finest] within close enough range by 2012?

I don't believe that a world without imagination or dreams or science is psychologically advanced. Did you ever watch Equilibrium? It's swinging to the opposite end of the scale, and it totally crushes everyone, at least it does so equally. If we're truly going to have any chance of surviving we have to live with each other, and also for each other. Breaking the wheel of Samsara...
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 03:15:41 AM
I am not saying that arcadia is without those things, I think it is the compliation of everything....kinda like the Christian belief in God and stuff.......it is everything ever thought of....made mostly of imagination and science...basically, its a good idea/bad idea.....an idea most of all. And it is what we do with those ideas that deturmine if Arcadia truly comes for us or not.
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 03:18:45 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerI am not saying that arcadia is without those things, I think it is the compliation of everything....kinda like the Christian belief in God and stuff.......it is everything ever thought of....made mostly of imagination and science...basically, its a good idea/bad idea.....an idea most of all. And it is what we do with those ideas that deturmine if Arcadia truly comes for us or not.
Well I don't think worrying about the end of the mayan calendar and the separation of the holy from the unholy is the way to go about it... not the least of which reasons being I'd end up in the same boat as Kevin Bacon.
Title: what is the name of the 10th planet?
Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 03:21:30 AM
That time is drawing closer.....as 2012 approaches. That is rather my quiery......I dont know if I am ready to live in a universe where my nightmares of that damned grey house with the changing rooms will be real. Or the mathematics taken to build a universe is ready for the minimal imaginations we are working with currently.
Title: what is the name of the 10th planet?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 29, 2004, 03:30:08 AM
i dunno what will happen,but i severely doubt it has anythign to do with what anyone has written in the last well lets say 100 years. maybe the mayans had something on it, but beyond that, i wouldn't trust any new age apocalyptic bullshitter to predict the next time i need to hit the can, let aloen the end of the world.


ona side note, here's a strangel relevant quote to this hwol end of the world thread

QuoteSome say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will. I sure could use a vacation from this bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Fret for your figure and Fret for your latte and Fret for your hairpiece and Fret for your lawsuit and Fret for your prozac and Fret for your pilot and Fret for your contract and Fret for your car. It's a bullshit three ring circus sideshow of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves. Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits. Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will cuz I sure could use a vacation from this Silly shit, stupid shit... One great big festering neon distraction, I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied. Learn to swim. Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be. Learn to swim. Fuck L Ron Hubbard and Fuck all his clones. Fuck all those gun-toting Hip gangster wannabes. Learn to swim. Fuck retro anything. Fuck your tattoos. Fuck all you junkies and Fuck your short memory. Learn to swim. Fuck smiley glad-hands With hidden agendas. Fuck these dysfunctional, Insecure actresses. Learn to swim. Cuz I'm praying for rain and I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom please flush it all away. I wanna watch it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away. Time to bring it down again. Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. suck it down. flush it down.
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 03:31:48 AM
Quote from: horabi dunno what will happen,but i severely doubt it has anythign to do with what anyone has written in the last well lets say 100 years. maybe the mayans had something on it, but beyond that, i wouldn't trust any new age apocalyptic bullshitter to predict the next time i need to hit the can, let aloen the end of the world.


ona side note, here's a strangel relevant quote to this hwol end of the world thread

QuoteSome say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will. I sure could use a vacation from this bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Fret for your figure and Fret for your latte and Fret for your hairpiece and Fret for your lawsuit and Fret for your prozac and Fret for your pilot and Fret for your contract and Fret for your car. It's a bullshit three ring circus sideshow of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves. Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits. Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will cuz I sure could use a vacation from this Silly shit, stupid shit... One great big festering neon distraction, I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied. Learn to swim. Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be. Learn to swim. Fuck L Ron Hubbard and Fuck all his clones. Fuck all those gun-toting Hip gangster wannabes. Learn to swim. Fuck retro anything. Fuck your tattoos. Fuck all you junkies and Fuck your short memory. Learn to swim. Fuck smiley glad-hands With hidden agendas. Fuck these dysfunctional, Insecure actresses. Learn to swim. Cuz I'm praying for rain and I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom please flush it all away. I wanna watch it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away. Time to bring it down again. Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. suck it down. flush it down.


W00000T!
*starts swimming*
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 03:31:58 AM
So do you mean to say you never worry about that which you cannot control, or if you could control something, would you try to?
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Post by: Trollax on March 29, 2004, 03:33:00 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerSo do you mean to say you never worry about that which you cannot control, or if you could control something, would you try to?

It's not about control... things happen.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 03:35:05 AM
Yes, things happen. but why? And no one ever answered about what truck was the tastiest......
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Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 29, 2004, 03:35:59 AM
what i'm trying to say is that on average, people who predict apaocalypses have a far worse track record than those peopel who predict the weather.

why control that which nto onyl can not be controlled, but to which cotnrol is a n alien concept.

it's liek oen day i wake up, look at the ocean and say, i will command thee ocean, to do my bidding!

does the ocean hear me? if it does, does it care? what am i to the ocean? i am nto even to the ocean what a single speck of sand is to the beach.
Title: what is the name of the 10th planet?
Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 29, 2004, 03:36:34 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerYes, things happen. but why? And no one ever answered about what truck was the tastiest......

ask cthulu, he may know.
Title: what is the name of the 10th planet?
Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 03:58:04 AM
The old style Bug cars look tasty.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 04:20:14 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerThe old style Bug cars look tasty.

They may look tasty, but Things taste better.
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Post by: on March 29, 2004, 04:35:08 AM
As the blue green world is drenched in horse-gore, the red seas are covered in horse hair.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 04:44:50 AM
Hm, alrighty then. What if it was salted?
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:00:10 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerHm, alrighty then. What if it was salted?

Don't know. But, Jeeps taste excelent fried and dipped in sweet and sour sauce.

Yumm. Them's good eatin'.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:01:11 AM
HEY, what would taste good with ranch dressing?
Title: what is the name of the 10th planet?
Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:04:34 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerHEY, what would taste good with ranch dressing?

Nothing. It's a proven fact that cars don't taste good in ranch. Sorry.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:06:05 AM
What about vans or even mopeds?
Title: what is the name of the 10th planet?
Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:10:02 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerWhat about vans or even mopeds?

Possibly mopeds. It's all trial and error with that stuff, though...
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:11:22 AM
I am fairly certain a go cart would go well with barbecue, although a bike needs italian dressing
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:12:58 AM
Or a good raspberry vinegrette.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:16:00 AM
Even better! But definitely a riding lawn mower goes with fried chicken and buttered corn.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:17:25 AM
Just don't eat the tires. *Makes a overdramatic gagging noise*
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:18:37 AM
::wrinkles nose:: No rabbit food! Green leafies are not my style unless on bread with lots of other stuff to cover their tastelessness.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:20:14 AM
Absolutely right.

... Although I do like carrots.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:21:30 AM
Carrots are our friends. They are not green leafies like the toppings upon lawn mower tires.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:24:41 AM
Indeed. Have you ever tried Caddilacs (A '59 model, of course!) with cheese? Quite tasty.
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:25:52 AM
No, but I used one for a bowl for my cheerios once.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 05:27:32 AM
I must try that sometime. Of course, I always put sugar on my cheerios, which might cause some problems...
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Post by: fullmooner on March 29, 2004, 05:30:42 AM
Oh Oh!!! and I accidently tried caviar on a lambourghini...[did I spell that right?], but you need a white wine with it.
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Post by: Guido Finucci on March 29, 2004, 07:03:39 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerOh Oh!!! and I accidently tried caviar on a lambourghini...

How do you 'accidentally' try caviar? Especially on a car.

I am having twisted cartoon visions of high speed gourmet messiness that all ends in tears.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 29, 2004, 07:28:15 AM
Quote from: fullmoonerOh Oh!!! and I accidently tried caviar on a lambourghini...[did I spell that right?], but you need a white wine with it.

You were close, it's lamborghini. No 'u'.

And you're right, white wine, for sure.
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Post by: Plaidikins on March 30, 2004, 10:09:32 PM
Something I found reading The Week

QuoteThe Planets: Are there eight, ten, or dozens?

The long standing belief that there are nine planets in the solar system is wrong. Astronomers now say the real number is eight, or 10, or--depending on your definition of "planet"--perhaps dozens. The planetary debate was reignited by the recent discovery of a small reddish ball of rock and ice orbiting the sun. Called Sedna, after the Inuit sea goddess, it's an estimated 800 to 1,000 miles across, making it the largest object spotted in the solar system since Pluto was discovered, in 1930. Senda, three quarters Pluto's size, is so far out that it takes 10,500 yearsto circle the sun, in a highly eliptical orbit. It is also the coldest known body in the solar system; tempretures on Sedna's surface hover around minus 400 degrees Farenheit.

But is it a planet? Astronomer Micheal Brown, one of Sedna's discoverers, says it is too big to be a asteroid and too small to be considered a plaet, based on generally recognised stanards. But here's the wrinkle. If Sedna isn't a planet, Brown tells the Houston Chronicle, then Pluto isn't either. To be a planet, says Brown, an object needs to be "considerably larger than any other object in a similar location." Pluto lies within the Kuiper Belt--a band of debris contianing several asteroids close to its size. The International Astronomical Union defines a planet more brodly--as an orbiting body large enough to have been made a spheroid by its own gravity. Pluto fits this broder definition--and so does Sedna. And so do many countless undiscovered spheres on the rock-strewn outer boundaries of the solar system.
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Post by: Trollax on April 01, 2004, 06:51:55 AM
Quote from: PlaidikinsSomething I found reading The Week

QuoteThe Planets: Are there eight, ten, or dozens?

The long standing belief that there are nine planets in the solar system is wrong. Astronomers now say the real number is eight, or 10, or--depending on your definition of "planet"--perhaps dozens. The planetary debate was reignited by the recent discovery of a small reddish ball of rock and ice orbiting the sun. Called Sedna, after the Inuit sea goddess, it's an estimated 800 to 1,000 miles across, making it the largest object spotted in the solar system since Pluto was discovered, in 1930. Senda, three quarters Pluto's size, is so far out that it takes 10,500 yearsto circle the sun, in a highly eliptical orbit. It is also the coldest known body in the solar system; tempretures on Sedna's surface hover around minus 400 degrees Farenheit.

But is it a planet? Astronomer Micheal Brown, one of Sedna's discoverers, says it is too big to be a asteroid and too small to be considered a plaet, based on generally recognised stanards. But here's the wrinkle. If Sedna isn't a planet, Brown tells the Houston Chronicle, then Pluto isn't either. To be a planet, says Brown, an object needs to be "considerably larger than any other object in a similar location." Pluto lies within the Kuiper Belt--a band of debris contianing several asteroids close to its size. The International Astronomical Union defines a planet more brodly--as an orbiting body large enough to have been made a spheroid by its own gravity. Pluto fits this broder definition--and so does Sedna. And so do many countless undiscovered spheres on the rock-strewn outer boundaries of the solar system.

OK... Let them argue over definitions and have punch-ups about which name attaches to what. I might matter in the latest edition of science review weekly but I don't give a rat's. While they argue... we'll go colonise!
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Post by: Cain on June 22, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
OMG THEY CALLED IT ERIS!
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Post by: the last yatto on June 22, 2009, 09:07:07 PM
 :pax:
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Post by: BabylonHoruv on June 22, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
Quote from: nodaystowaste on March 21, 2004, 08:26:12 AM
SEDNA IS THE PLANET OF DISCORDIA!

um, Eris is the planet of discordia.  She killed Pluto and everything.
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Post by: Triple Zero on June 23, 2009, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on June 22, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
Quote from: nodaystowaste on March 21, 2004, 08:26:12 AM
SEDNA IS THE PLANET OF DISCORDIA!

um, Eris is the planet of discordia.  She killed Pluto and everything.

WHAT? ERIS IS A PLANET?!?!!

WAIT UNTIL RAW HEARS ABOUT THIS!
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Post by: AFK on June 23, 2009, 06:08:22 PM
This is news to me. 
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Post by: Kai on June 23, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
I was wondering if RAW was even still alive when Eris was named.
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Post by: fomenter on June 23, 2009, 06:14:06 PM
what ?? are you saying RAW has passed away?
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Post by: LMNO on June 23, 2009, 06:14:41 PM
That's easy enough to check.

Robert Anton Wilson (born Robert Edward Wilson, January 18, 1932 – January 11, 2007)

Eris is named after the goddess Eris (Greek Έρις), a personification of strife and discord.[21] The name was assigned on September 13, 2006 following an unusually long period in which it was known by the provisional designation 2003 UB313.

So, yes.
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Post by: Iason Ouabache on June 23, 2009, 06:28:05 PM
Wow. This place really sucked before I arrived.
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Post by: LMNO on June 23, 2009, 06:32:13 PM
And now it sucks even harder.


Thanks, Iason.  Asshole.
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Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on June 23, 2009, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 23, 2009, 06:14:41 PM
That's easy enough to check.

Robert Anton Wilson (born Robert Edward Wilson, January 18, 1932 – January 11, 2007)

Eris is named after the goddess Eris (Greek Έρις), a personification of strife and discord.[21] The name was assigned on September 13, 2006 following an unusually long period in which it was known by the provisional designation 2003 UB313.

So, yes.

Yep, unfortunately, by September he was pretty well done in and had very little communication except through the awesome folks that were taking care of him. I can ask a few of them if the subject ever came up and what his reaction was.

Assuming of course, that he isn't right there, right now with Leary and Gonzo tripping balls across the planet with She What Done It All.
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Post by: the last yatto on July 01, 2009, 01:52:06 AM
Quote“Planet? What blasphemy is this? Dwarf planet, you fool!”
“She prefers the term ‘midget planet’, if you absolutely must.”
“What ’she’? Are you seriously anthropomorphisising a hunk of rock 2600 kilometers across?”
“A lass of rock. Planets like Mars, clearly masculine male objects, are ‘hunks’ of rock. But I appreciate the admiring sentiment.”
“Stop this planet nonsense. Dwarf planets are not a subdivision of planets; they’re an entirely separate category.”
“That’s planetism.”
“What?”
“Sure, you’re all for the big dogs of the Solar System, round heavy rollers like Jupiter and Saturn, who get their path swept clear for them and all so they won’t get bothered by nothing. What about the downtrodden small guys, huh? Is it too much to ask for just a little bit of sympathy?”
“I —”
“Sure, blame her. Everyone does that. ‘Oh, she came along, the lady of Discord and Heated Discussions, and now everyone’s up in arms about what’s a planet and poor Pluto is just crushed — won’t someone think of the plutoids? Won’t someone please think of the plutoids?’ Everyone says that. Sure, blame the starry messenger! And the fat cats of the Solar System keep their planet status for themselves — we wouldn’t be having this discussion if the IAU was headquartered on Pluto, would we?”
“Well, that’s a highly hypothetical —”
“No we wouldn’t! We would have planets, planets, planets as far as the eye can see! Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ceres, Randi, Plait, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Haumea, Kwisatz, Haderach, Makemake, Jesus, Eris, Yibb-Tstll, Hastur, Hastur, Hastur — hundreds and hundreds of planets, all metaphorically linking hands in one great harmonious music of the spheres! You can download the anthem for 99 cents, but it has DRM. It plays once, then bricks your computer.”
“Listen! That’s chaos and anarchy! You would have children needing a book just to memorize the planets! And half of those aren’t big enough objects anyway.”
“Oh, it’s sizeism now? Sock it to the dwarf planet, huh? You’re always moaning how children don’t read no more — well, here’s one proposed book and you’re all in arms against it! Besides, think of the commercial possibilities!”
“I think one of us has lost her grip on reality.”
“Why not both? Anyway, if you just were more lenient with your definition of a planet, allowed a bit smaller objects, Pepsi could launch its ‘Maximum Taste Planet Sponsored by Pepsi’ probe into solar orbit… think of it! Mercury, Venus, Maximum Taste Planet Sponsored by Pepsi, Earth!”
“Do the words ‘crass commercialism’ sound familiar?”
“Oh, this coming from the heirs of Galileo, whose idea of scientific impartiality was to name the moons of Jupiter after the children of his wealthy patron: Ganymede, Callisto, Io and Europa de Medici! And what about the 1967 NASA memorandum?”
“Wait, what?”
“And I quote: ‘In the light of the recent events in Greece, to which this administration does not wish to draw unnecessary attention, it is thereby resolved that new Solar System objects be named after American men of great renown.’ We were a breath away from having Lyndon B. Johnson orbiting Saturn!”
“I’ve never heard about that!”
“Well, ignorance of history doesn’t make history go away. And ignorance of law doesn’t make you any less a lawbreaker. By the laws of debate I’ve won.”
“What — what law? Explain yourself, you Eridian hooligan!”
“I prefer the term ‘Eristic exciter’. Anyhow, do you have any further comments on the title? Or the content?”
“What content?”
* * *
An “Eristic debate” is, or so I hear, one where the goal is a victory by (m)any means, not clarification of matters. The above is my attempt to simulate such.
:lulz:
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Post by: Triple Zero on July 01, 2009, 05:16:09 PM
:mittens:

where did you find that?
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Post by: Sheered Völva on July 05, 2009, 03:29:52 AM
WARNING COMMERCIAL COMING: As it happens, a page of Intermittens Issue 7: Operation Mindfuck will have discussion about Planet Eris and the controversy. On 11 August 2005, Professor Mu-Chao, then named Prince Mu-Chao, started a Jake campaign to get Planet X/Planet Xena named Eris, and it actually worked. It's known as The Jake That Changed A World.

Somebody on this site (sorry, don't remember who and am too lazy to look) talked to one of the planet's namers, and he acknowledged he knew of the Discordian effort before it was named, but I don't know if he went so far as to say he named it because of the Discordians.

Still, I found getting a (dwarf) planet named after our Goddess pretty cool, even if its official name is 136199 Eris.
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Post by: BabylonHoruv on July 06, 2009, 12:03:36 AM
The fact that Eris killed Pluto (or at least got his status as a planet revoked) is also pretty cool.
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Post by: AFK on July 06, 2009, 12:42:15 AM
Well, Eris, and a bunch of no-fun astro-physicists like Neils De Grasse Tyson.