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Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: hooplala on August 14, 2008, 04:58:54 PM

Title: Eris As Goddess of Bureaucracy
Post by: hooplala on August 14, 2008, 04:58:54 PM
Was this just a joke of Kill and Thornley's?  Or, is there any evidence that the Greeks thought this?

Considering their highly negative view of Eris, I'm making the assumption that this was a joke, but does anyone know? 
Title: Re: Eris As Goddess of Bureaucracy
Post by: Cramulus on August 14, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
was what a joke? Who said she was a Goddess of Bureaucracy?



I think she is. Because I think the best way to break an ordered system back into disorder is to introduce way more order. I can totally see Eris as a Goddess of Bureaucracy - not as it's sole patroness, but more like a deity that hangs out there to get her lulz in.


I wrote about the Discordian relationship with Bureaucracy in the Parable of the Gong (http://blackironprison.com/index.php?title=The_Parable_of_the_Gong).
Title: Re: Eris As Goddess of Bureaucracy
Post by: hooplala on August 14, 2008, 05:07:09 PM
It says somewhere in the PD, doesn't it?  Surely I didn't make this up myself and then delude myself into believing someone else wrote it... did I?

Title: Re: Eris As Goddess of Bureaucracy
Post by: Cramulus on August 14, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
I don't see why she wouldn't be a patroness of bureaucracy

-she has a saint in charge of Bureaucracy (Zarathud)
-Chaos = Order + Disorder. So even Order (like Bureaucracy) is a part of Chaos. Sacred Chao and all that.

I think the Book of Uterus (http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/book_of_uterus.html) talks about that
Title: Re: Eris As Goddess of Bureaucracy
Post by: fomenter on August 14, 2008, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on August 14, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
was what a joke? Who said she was a Goddess of Bureaucracy?



I think she is. Because I think the best way to break an ordered system back into disorder is to introduce way more order. I can totally see Eris as a Goddess of Bureaucracy - not as it's sole patroness, but more like a deity that hangs out there to get her lulz in.


I wrote about the Discordian relationship with Bureaucracy in the Parable of the Gong (http://blackironprison.com/index.php?title=The_Parable_of_the_Gong).

i don't know what kill Thornley or the Greeks thought on the subject but i agree with cramulus, what better place to find discord than a paper pushing, comity meeting attending, micromanaged environment of excess order. a bureaucrats budget will go up and they can hire and supervise more bureaucrats if they fail to get the job done.

i loved the gong parable :lulz:
Title: Re: Eris As Goddess of Bureaucracy
Post by: Cain on August 14, 2008, 09:12:16 PM
By the time the Greeks noted that complex systems tended to create new problems and break down frequently (for simplicity's sake, lets say the time of Thucydides), they weren't much into the mythology except as symbology deal.  Well, except those pricks in Athens, but there was a losing war, and the vote, and Socrates was subverting teh yoofs....

So its a modern invention, if you're asking.  However, that doesn't mean its not implied, as Cramulus laid it out.