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Principia Discordia => Bring and Brag => Topic started by: LMNO on September 09, 2008, 12:55:49 PM

Title: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 09, 2008, 12:55:49 PM
http://www.reverbnation.com/earfatigueproductions

The band's called Gerund.  Click on the above link, then click on one of the two Gerund tracks.  Available for stream or download.  More to come.

Note:  These aren't the final mixes, but they're pretty close, so I decided to go for it.  I will update when appropriate.

Lyrics:

"The Jailor"

Woke up trapped in the life I was pretending
Machine(tm) in front of me, never ending
I said a prayer to the god I believed in
Then took my place in the Government system

Sat in the place where I was taught good behavior
Five o'clock on Friday was to be my only savior
Leave behind all the things that had happened
Forget the past that I abandoned

They tried to tell me, I just wouldn't listen
They tried to show me the bars of my Prison
My cell was something I had created
Offered no key, but still I waited

The Warden said that I shouldn't try to fight it
"No one escapes, but many suckers try it"
I knew that voice, it was all becoming clearer
It was like staring right into the mirror

They tried to tell me, I just wouldn't listen
They tried to show me the bars of my Prison
My cell was something I had created
Offered no key, but still I waited

Freedom is something that can't be given
They say that it comes from the way that you're living
You can't make a move, you're afraid of failure
You're the best at being your own jailor

Jailbreak.......



"Circular Reasoning"

Said the man
From the Government man
Said he got a plan
That you should understand

He trusts your attention span
Fear of the other man
Fire from the frying pan
Bringing back the Ku Klux Klan;
That's the American plan.

Circular reasoning works because...

Said the man
With his God by his side
Said he got nothing to hide
And he's here to provide

He orders you to comply
Don't bother asking why
That's the sin of foolish pride
Don't be misguided.

But even he knows he lies.

Circular reasoning works because...
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: AFK on September 09, 2008, 01:33:48 PM
I like em both but Circular Reasoning is my favorite.  Good stuff. 
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 09, 2008, 02:05:18 PM
Yeah, I'm with you.  The mix for The Jailor is still really muddy, needs a better bassline, and shouldn't rip off the Foo Fighters so blatantly.

When I post "Teacher Says," I have a feeling D Cup will be angry.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 10, 2008, 12:46:26 PM
Added "Teacher Says":

Teacher says he's gonna tell me
All about the world
To believe all that I see
And believe all that I heard

"Such a thing as wrong and right, with nothing in between.
All there is is Black and White and the sound of the Machine(tm).
This is true, and that is not, and don't you question why."

And when I had it figured out, it almost passed me by...

Teacher says:
"This is for your own good."
Teacher says:
"The government is here to help."
Teacher says:
"Forget your rights, and they'll go away."
Teacher says:
"Your best just isn't good enough."
Teacher says:
"Jesus died for your sins."
Teacher says:
"The police are your friends."
Teacher says:
"Do what you want to say."
Teacher says:
"Freedom isn't free."

Teacher says he's gonna tell me
All about the world
To believe all that I seen
And believe all that I heard

Teacher says...








[edited to make the lyrics match the vocals.]

Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Rev. St. Syn, KSC (Ret.) on September 13, 2008, 05:02:59 PM
:mittens: ALL :mittens:
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Triple Zero on September 14, 2008, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 09, 2008, 12:55:49 PM
http://www.reverbnation.com/earfatigueproductions

why doesn't this surprise me ... :)

also, just downloaded the tracks, will queue them for a listen
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Triple Zero on September 14, 2008, 05:18:14 PM
hey this is really really good!!!

Jailor: love it, love the lyrics, and yeah the mixing could be improved a bit, but ah.. how about compressing one track sidechained with the bass of another, to make room for the bass frequencies somewhat? it'll sound weird, so that could be funny :) [though you know more about mastering than i do]

lyrics of second verse of Jailor are missing from your post btw.

and uhm, the ending is really a lot like this pagan metal band my ex-gf used to listen to, called Incubus-Sukkubus iirc. not sure if that's a good thing.

Circular Reasoning: this track really works :) ehm. it's great, i like it about 5x better than the previous. i'm always a fan of that afterbeat dub/reggae thingy, and the vocals that go lower and lower in the chorus. one thing, in the chorus at 2:50, there's some kind of filter pushing back the vocals for a little while, it sounds odd. it's something i shouldn't notice, but i do.

Teacher says: might be an accent thing, but i'm reading the lyrics along with your songs, and sometimes you (that's your voice, right?) seem to swallow entire words, i dunno if it's intentional, but it makes it sound kinda messy like you don't know your own lyrics and are surprised you've ran out of syllable-space :) especially in "(There's) such a thing as wrong and right", you swallow "There's", which, IMO, if you need to get rid of that syllable, better reword it instead of swallow it (cause you can still hear it)? like "There's a thing as wrong and right", or i dunno, something.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 18, 2008, 07:45:59 PM
I added the second verse to the post, thanks!

I don't have time to respond to the rest right now, but I will, no fear.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Cain on September 18, 2008, 08:07:19 PM
I have been meaning to rewrite Washington Bullets, for modern events.

Should I ever complete this aural epic, are you interested in it for this project, despite having nothing to do with the BIP?
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 19, 2008, 12:59:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 18, 2008, 08:07:19 PM
I have been meaning to rewrite Washington Bullets, for modern events.

Should I ever complete this aural epic, are you interested in it for this project, despite having nothing to do with the BIP?

I'm always up for new material... I've got more side projects than Brittney has paparazzi.

Quote from: triple zero on September 14, 2008, 05:18:14 PM
hey this is really really good!!!

Jailor: love it, love the lyrics, and yeah the mixing could be improved a bit, but ah.. how about compressing one track sidechained with the bass of another, to make room for the bass frequencies somewhat? it'll sound weird, so that could be funny :) [though you know more about mastering than i do]

I think I need to be more specific with the eq, give each instrument it's own bandwidth... but that sidechain is an interesting idea.  I'll keep it in mind.  What I really need to do is rewrite the bassline, give it more life.

Quoteand uhm, the ending is really a lot like this pagan metal band my ex-gf used to listen to, called Incubus-Sukkubus iirc. not sure if that's a good thing.

If you like it, it's a good thing.  Truth be told, I ripped off the Foo Fighters for the rhythm and feel of the chorus and strings crossfade, and a Nine Inch Nails b-side for the piano/sub-bass outro.  Whatever works, right?

QuoteCircular Reasoning: this track really works :) ehm. it's great, i like it about 5x better than the previous. i'm always a fan of that afterbeat dub/reggae thingy, and the vocals that go lower and lower in the chorus. one thing, in the chorus at 2:50, there's some kind of filter pushing back the vocals for a little while, it sounds odd. it's something i shouldn't notice, but i do.

I'll check it out.  It could be I knocked the fader, or I just fucked up.

QuoteTeacher says: might be an accent thing, but i'm reading the lyrics along with your songs, and sometimes you (that's your voice, right?) seem to swallow entire words, i dunno if it's intentional, but it makes it sound kinda messy like you don't know your own lyrics and are surprised you've ran out of syllable-space :) especially in "(There's) such a thing as wrong and right", you swallow "There's", which, IMO, if you need to get rid of that syllable, better reword it instead of swallow it (cause you can still hear it)? like "There's a thing as wrong and right", or i dunno, something.

It's intentional... I borrowed a stylistic element from a lot of Minutemen tracks, where the lyrics would be written one way, and then sung another.  "Such a thing as wrong and right" would be understood in conversation, the "there's" would be mentally added in; but when I wrote it out, I added the words back in, because even though it's understood aurally, it would look heavily stylized written out.

Or something.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Triple Zero on September 20, 2008, 02:16:24 AM
Quote from: LMNO on September 19, 2008, 12:59:31 PM
Quoteand uhm, the ending is really a lot like this pagan metal band my ex-gf used to listen to, called Incubus-Sukkubus iirc. not sure if that's a good thing.

If you like it, it's a good thing.  Truth be told, I ripped off the Foo Fighters for the rhythm and feel of the chorus and strings crossfade, and a Nine Inch Nails b-side for the piano/sub-bass outro.  Whatever works, right?

i did like Inkubus-Sukkubus (even though it's not my style, the tracks got good energy). haven't listened to it a lot since we broke up, though :)

Quote
QuoteCircular Reasoning: this track really works :) ehm. it's great, i like it about 5x better than the previous. i'm always a fan of that afterbeat dub/reggae thingy, and the vocals that go lower and lower in the chorus. one thing, in the chorus at 2:50, there's some kind of filter pushing back the vocals for a little while, it sounds odd. it's something i shouldn't notice, but i do.

I'll check it out.  It could be I knocked the fader, or I just fucked up.

k.

just to be clear: i like that the vocals that go lower and lower in the chorus. it's really cool. it was just the odd sound at around 2:50 i was pointing out.

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QuoteTeacher says: might be an accent thing, but i'm reading the lyrics along with your songs, and sometimes you (that's your voice, right?) seem to swallow entire words, i dunno if it's intentional, but it makes it sound kinda messy like you don't know your own lyrics and are surprised you've ran out of syllable-space :) especially in "(There's) such a thing as wrong and right", you swallow "There's", which, IMO, if you need to get rid of that syllable, better reword it instead of swallow it (cause you can still hear it)? like "There's a thing as wrong and right", or i dunno, something.

It's intentional... I borrowed a stylistic element from a lot of Minutemen tracks, where the lyrics would be written one way, and then sung another.  "Such a thing as wrong and right" would be understood in conversation, the "there's" would be mentally added in; but when I wrote it out, I added the words back in, because even though it's understood aurally, it would look heavily stylized written out.

Or something.

there's a lot of bands that have lyrics written one way and sung another. i hate that :)

in this track, i get a slightly "out of breath" hasty feeling from it. which is not good (only for a track where "out of breath" or "hasty" is an explicit theme).

have you got a specific link/youtube/example to check out one of those Minutemen tracks? because maybe it's in fact a good idea, but it doesn't sound like it's supposed to.

mind you, i'm nitpicking, because i really like these tracks, they got potential, and i wanna see them carried out in full awesomeness.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 22, 2008, 01:07:53 PM
Quote from: triple zero on September 20, 2008, 02:16:24 AM
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QuoteCircular Reasoning: this track really works :) ehm. it's great, i like it about 5x better than the previous. i'm always a fan of that afterbeat dub/reggae thingy, and the vocals that go lower and lower in the chorus. one thing, in the chorus at 2:50, there's some kind of filter pushing back the vocals for a little while, it sounds odd. it's something i shouldn't notice, but i do.

I'll check it out.  It could be I knocked the fader, or I just fucked up.

k.

just to be clear: i like that the vocals that go lower and lower in the chorus. it's really cool. it was just the odd sound at around 2:50 i was pointing out.

Ok, I took a listen.  That was me running out of breath.   :lol:  You can hear it repeat itself during the round.  I'll bump the fader a bit to cover.

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QuoteTeacher says: might be an accent thing, but i'm reading the lyrics along with your songs, and sometimes you (that's your voice, right?) seem to swallow entire words, i dunno if it's intentional, but it makes it sound kinda messy like you don't know your own lyrics and are surprised you've ran out of syllable-space :) especially in "(There's) such a thing as wrong and right", you swallow "There's", which, IMO, if you need to get rid of that syllable, better reword it instead of swallow it (cause you can still hear it)? like "There's a thing as wrong and right", or i dunno, something.

It's intentional... I borrowed a stylistic element from a lot of Minutemen tracks, where the lyrics would be written one way, and then sung another.  "Such a thing as wrong and right" would be understood in conversation, the "there's" would be mentally added in; but when I wrote it out, I added the words back in, because even though it's understood aurally, it would look heavily stylized written out.

Or something.

there's a lot of bands that have lyrics written one way and sung another. i hate that :)

in this track, i get a slightly "out of breath" hasty feeling from it. which is not good (only for a track where "out of breath" or "hasty" is an explicit theme).

have you got a specific link/youtube/example to check out one of those Minutemen tracks? because maybe it's in fact a good idea, but it doesn't sound like it's supposed to.

mind you, i'm nitpicking, because i really like these tracks, they got potential, and i wanna see them carried out in full awesomeness.

As I was listening back, it seems to me I enunciated every word I sang... I'm wondering, if I didn't put "There's" in the lyrics, would you have noticed?
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Triple Zero on September 23, 2008, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 22, 2008, 01:07:53 PM
Ok, I took a listen.  That was me running out of breath.   :lol: 

protip: Circular breathing works because ...

:lol:

QuoteAs I was listening back, it seems to me I enunciated every word I sang... I'm wondering, if I didn't put "There's" in the lyrics, would you have noticed?

i don't know .. i don't have the track here right now, but i'll listen to it without reading the lyrics and find out.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 29, 2008, 05:47:38 PM
Hey, test mix up for a new song, "No Choice" (at http://www.reverbnation.com/earfatigueproductions).  I'm still working on the suggestions for the others.


You, in that smug tone of voice
No difference between signal and noise
No one left to appeal to
And all the bills have come due
Telling me you've left me no choice

Even though you know it's no use
You keep looking for another excuse
You're sure that it's no game
But it's feeling so strange
like your whole foundation's come loose

Someone forces you to behave
And not to make too many waves
You'd change, if you could, so you say;
But today's not a good day.

You...
Have only one point of view
"Don't fix what ain't broke"
But that's your little joke
Cuz it's shattered all the way through

So what good is the truth that you've found
If it's turtles all the way down?
What's the point to it
If all you're gonna do with it
Is regret the road you've been down?

Someone forces you to behave
And not to make too many waves
You'd change, if you could, so you say;
But today's not a good day.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Honey on September 29, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
Hi LMNO,

I really like all your lyrics, especially Jailor & Circular Reasoning & the last 1, No Choice.  & the music especially on Circular Reasoning.  Thanks & respect.

& I owe you an apology I think?  For something I said in another thread?  It was just that the synchronized randomness turned you into DC & Suu's Mother.  Evidently I did not foresee that bit of convoluted 'creepiness' & it was too much for my mango madness & vodka stewed brain to take atm.  I offer my sincere apologies & hope you will forgive me?  Your handsomeness from your pics just threw me for a loop & the dissonance was way too much.  So sorry for that.

& I really do like your music & do you perform anywhere?
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: The Dark Monk on September 29, 2008, 11:28:27 PM
Quote from: Honey on September 29, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
Your handsomeness from your pics just threw me for a loop & the dissonance was way too much. 

(http://www.johnsondiversey.com/NR/rdonlyres/ECFE96AB-9AA3-49A6-B11B-8D9CCCB81C3F/0/PledgeShineUP.JPG)
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Honey on September 29, 2008, 11:36:49 PM
 :cry:
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Payne on September 29, 2008, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: TheScarletReaper on September 29, 2008, 11:28:27 PM
Quote from: Honey on September 29, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
Your handsomeness from your pics just threw me for a loop & the dissonance was way too much.

[snip]obnoxious pledge image[/snip]

WTF dude?
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 30, 2008, 03:00:43 AM
Honey, was that some sort of private fantasy, or have I missed a thread somewhere?
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Honey on September 30, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Let's just say it was both.  (I am very impressionable)   :oops:

I try to say what I mean & mean what I say but sometimes I put my foot in my mouth.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Triple Zero on September 30, 2008, 02:24:26 PM
i still like Circular Reasoning best, in the sense that it's earned itself a spot in my "random stuff" collection i carry around on my mp3 player and that i actively put it up a couple of times (as opposed to 98% of my other music that happens along in a big retarded shuffle). my gf was impressed, as well.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 30, 2008, 03:25:38 PM
Hmmm... Any way you could expand on why you like that the best?

It seems a popular sentiment, so maybe I should contiue exploring that vein.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: Triple Zero on September 30, 2008, 05:40:13 PM
it's a bit hard to describe music in this way, so i'm gonna try my best:

- i like the afterbeat thingy, dunno what it's called, like what they do in reggae/dub as well.
- the sound of your voice is, feels a bit like a dark smoky bar where this guy does really depressed blues, but then with more guitar and distortion. i picture people in a pit, tearing down the place in a grainy slow motion while staying seated.
- i like the way the guitars are distorted
- the way the tempo speeds up in the second and fourth verses
- the overall tempo and rhythm is laid back but interesting and also really forcefull in a way
- the sounds are spaced out clearly
- how you made "pride" rhyme with "misguide..ed" :) it's a crappy nonchalant thing, i could have done :)
- it's not the solo/break at 2:25 i don't like the high pitched melody, it sounds a littlebit too much like some guy randomly plucking away at their guitar (which may very well have been what you did), but it's a bit pretentious maybe.
- then, the "circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works because .." that comes right after that is obligatory, of course, and carried out well.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on September 30, 2008, 05:57:27 PM
Cool.

I took notes.  We'll see what happens for the next Gerund project.

Well, actually, the one after next, because I have a Hives/Phantom Planet ripoff I want to make called "Think for Yourself."

Um... and that may have to wait until I finish the two Tardive Dyskenisia songs, "I'm So Goth I Shit Bats," and "The Whole World's Against Me".

Oh, and I also have to mash up some song samples for ECH to rap over.



LMNO
-My, what a big plate you have!
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on October 03, 2008, 01:34:13 AM
I changed the mix on "No Choice" a bit.  A little crisper, I think.  Same link to the Reverbnation site.  Enjoy.
Title: Re: Gerund: The BIP-Rock Project
Post by: LMNO on December 06, 2008, 12:13:13 AM
Quote from: LMNO on October 03, 2008, 01:34:13 AM
I changed the mix on "No Choice" a bit.  A little crisper, I think.  Same link to the Reverbnation site.  Enjoy.

I changed the mix on it once again.

It's good to be doing music and not writing that fucking novel.

Easy link:

http://www.reverbnation.com/earfatigueproductions