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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Vene on October 20, 2008, 09:57:49 PM

Title: Rocks in the head
Post by: Vene on October 20, 2008, 09:57:49 PM
http://www.petrifiedhumanbrain.com/ (http://www.petrifiedhumanbrain.com/)
:x
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 20, 2008, 10:01:35 PM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Kai on October 20, 2008, 10:24:06 PM
ITS. A. FUCKING. ROCK!

:x
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:16:03 PM
 :weary:  It's not even brain shaped.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Kai on October 20, 2008, 11:25:01 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:16:03 PM
:weary:  It's not even brain shaped.

I'm rocking MY brain to figure out what kind of rock it is, thinking some sort of feldspar, just by the color.

Which would make it igneous. Igneous rocks can't even contain fossils.  :x
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Vene on October 20, 2008, 11:29:19 PM
I want to take that ROCK, crack their skulls open and show them what real brains look like.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:33:24 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 20, 2008, 11:25:01 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:16:03 PM
:weary:  It's not even brain shaped.

I'm rocking MY brain to figure out what kind of rock it is, thinking some sort of feldspar, just by the color.

Which would make it igneous. Igneous rocks can't even contain fossils.  :x
Hmm... Vene, have you ran this past the usual suspects over at CF?  I know that at least 3 pro geologists post there.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Vene on October 20, 2008, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:33:24 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 20, 2008, 11:25:01 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:16:03 PM
:weary:  It's not even brain shaped.

I'm rocking MY brain to figure out what kind of rock it is, thinking some sort of feldspar, just by the color.

Which would make it igneous. Igneous rocks can't even contain fossils.  :x
Hmm... Vene, have you ran this past the usual suspects over at CF?  I know that at least 3 pro geologists post there.
I'm done with that place.  They got all pissy when I put this in my signature.  Naturally, I escalated the situation.
(http://www.enterthejabberwock.com/junk/GoTeamRape.jpg)

But Kai is right, fossils only form in sedimentary rock.  The process that forms metamorphic rock destroys them, and since igneous rocks are made from lava/magma no fossil is going to survive that process.  Now, as for identifying what type of rock it is, beats me.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: fomenter on October 20, 2008, 11:44:34 PM
I sent a copy of the pic to a geologist i know, give it a few days and i may be able to tell you what type of rock it is..
- my uneducated guess is that it is the same type of rock creationists have in there heads..
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Kai on October 20, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
Quote from: Vene on October 20, 2008, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:33:24 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 20, 2008, 11:25:01 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on October 20, 2008, 11:16:03 PM
:weary:  It's not even brain shaped.

I'm rocking MY brain to figure out what kind of rock it is, thinking some sort of feldspar, just by the color.

Which would make it igneous. Igneous rocks can't even contain fossils.  :x
Hmm... Vene, have you ran this past the usual suspects over at CF?  I know that at least 3 pro geologists post there.
I'm done with that place.  They got all pissy when I put this in my signature.  Naturally, I escalated the situation.
(http://www.enterthejabberwock.com/junk/GoTeamRape.jpg)

But Kai is right, fossils only form in sedimentary rock.  The process that forms metamorphic rock destroys them, and since igneous rocks are made from lava/magma no fossil is going to survive that process.  Now, as for identifying what type of rock it is, beats me.

could be beach rounded calciferous coral too (biogenic limestone), it sometimes gets a color like that, but usually with mottling.

There are other reasons that this can't be a fossil. A) soft material seldom fossilizes, and B) when it does it doesn't leave a convex fossil like bone does, it leaves a concave impression. Jellyfish, for example. You can get jellyfish fossils, but they are all impressions, even if some of them have remarkable detail. Same with most insect fossils preserved in sediment. Amber, on the other hand, has the capacity to preserve soft materials better, so leaves, soft cuticle, hair, etc. The coolest insect fossils are in amber.

Never, and I mean never, has any soft tissue been found, either in fossil or preserved some other way, from a hominid older than the ice man.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Iason Ouabache on October 21, 2008, 12:32:26 AM
P.S.  I e-mailed this to Brian Dunning (the dude from Skeptoid) and he freaking loved it.  He said that he is going to post it to his Facebook and Skeptalk. Thanks Vene.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: fomenter on October 22, 2008, 12:55:19 AM
one geologists opinion, its a type of quartz its impossible to know for certain w/o chipping a bit apart, but my guess is they are right.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Kai on October 22, 2008, 01:08:02 AM
Quote from: fnord mote eris on October 22, 2008, 12:55:19 AM
one geologists opinion, its a type of quartz its impossible to know for certain w/o chipping a bit apart, but my guess is they are right.

Yes, igneous rock, often found along with feldspar and mica.

Maybe this is another one of those big lie situations. You say, Its an igneous rock, its composed of quartz and feldspar, volcanic rocks which do not form fossils? They answer with something so far gone outrageous beyond any possible reasoning, a huge lie so they don't have to explain their little one.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: fomenter on October 22, 2008, 02:52:45 AM
i don't even get the connection, fossilised brain proves soft tissue can fossilised, proves creation by god ?? whats the point? or even the relationship between these "scientific" non facts??
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on October 22, 2008, 02:55:20 AM
Quote from: fnord mote eris on October 22, 2008, 02:52:45 AM
i don't even get the connection, fossilised brain proves soft tissue can fossilised, proves creation by god ?? whats the point? or even the relationship between these "scientific" non facts??

1. THIS ROCK IS A BRAIN

2. GOD MAED ALL TEH ROCKS

3. THEREFORE GOD MAED THE WHOLE WORLD WITH HUMANS IN IT ABOUT 6000 YEARS AGO IN 6 DAYS, EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED IN TEH BIBLE, KJV.

Q.E.D.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 22, 2008, 03:29:31 AM
Quote from: fnord mote eris on October 22, 2008, 02:52:45 AM
i don't even get the connection, fossilised brain proves soft tissue can fossilised, proves creation by god ?? whats the point? or even the relationship between these "scientific" non facts??

Creationists disagree with the entire premise of fossilization.  Fossilization takes millions of years, and therefore would contradict Young Earth Creationism.  Current theories of fossilization predict that soft tissue would never fossilize (except in the ways that Kai outlined,) so this rock supposedly debunks our current theories on fossilization, making Young Earth possible after all.
Title: Re: Rocks in the head
Post by: fomenter on October 22, 2008, 03:57:18 AM
OK i get the connection now. its still just a rock, a type of rock that  has no connection to fossilisation but little details like that shouldn't bother a true believer :argh!: