Other than the option of paying Ivan Stang money... what is the difference between me an a SubGenius?
Is there a difference?
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)
Come on
Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin
Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope
Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects
Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right
(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)
Quote from: Payne on November 05, 2008, 04:52:54 PM
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)
Come on
Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin
Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope
Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects
Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right
(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Payne on November 05, 2008, 04:52:54 PM
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)
Come on
Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin
Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope
Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects
Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right
(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)
Good lord Payne, how do you read my mind like this?
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 04:56:20 PM
Good lord Payne, how do you read my mind like this?
I am Qusays closest friend.
Quote from: Payne on November 05, 2008, 04:52:54 PM
(Punch it, Hurb
Yo, I don't think we should talk about this
Come on, why not?
People might misunderstand what we're tryin' to say, you know?
No, but that's a part of life)
Come on
Let's talk about Sub Genii
Let's talk about you and me
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects
Let's talk about sects for now to the people at home or in the crowd
It keeps coming up anyhow
Don't decoy, avoid, or make void the topic
Cuz that ain't gonna stop it
Now we talk about sects on the radio and video shows
Many will know anything goes
Let's tell it how it is, and how it could be
How it was, and of course, how it should be
Those who think it's dirty have a choice
Pick up the needle, press pause, or turn the radio off
Will that stop us, Pep? I doubt it
All right then, come on, Spin
Hot to trot, make any man's eyes pop
She use what she got to get whatever she don't got
Fellas drool like fools, but then again they're only human
The chick was a hit because her body was boomin'
Gold, pearls, rubies, crazy diamonds
Nothin' she ever wore was ever common
Her dates heads of state, men of taste
Lawyers, doctors, no one was too great for her to get with
Or even mess with, the Prez she says was next on her list
And believe me, you, it's as good as true
There ain't a man alive that she couldn't get next to
She had it all in the bag so she should have been glad
But she was mad and sad and feelin' bad
Thinkin' about the things that she never had
No love, just sects, followed next with a check and a note
That last night was dope
Let's talk about Sub Genii (sing it)
Let's talk about you and me (sing it, sing it)
Let's talk about all the good things
And the bad things that may be
Let's talk about sects (come on)
Let's talk about sects (do it)
Let's talk about sects (uh-huh)
Let's talk about sects
Ladies, all the ladies, louder now, help me out
Come on, all the ladies - let's talk about sects, all right
(Yo, Pep, I don't think they're gonna play this on the radio
And why not? Everybody has sects
I mean, everybody should be makin' love
Come on, how many guys you know make love?)
Holy fucking :mittens: Batman!
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 04:48:27 PM
Other than the option of paying Ivan Stang money... what is the difference between me an a SubGenius?
Is there a difference?
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.
Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.
That was my response as well, and I gave it a couple tries . . . that's why I was hoping some of our SubGenii friends would 'splain the appeal to me.
I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .
Your best bet would probably be Roger.
I have the Book of the Subgenius, I've gotten through it and got a few laughs out of it, but nothing enlightening. :kingmeh:
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 06:13:53 PM
I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .
Who knew it would be me who would step up to that plate?
. . . waiting for Roger . . .
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 06:13:53 PM
That was my response as well, and I gave it a couple tries . . . that's why I was hoping some of our SubGenii friends would 'splain the appeal to me.
I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .
:lulz:
Quote from: Payne on November 05, 2008, 06:16:19 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 06:13:53 PM
I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .
Who knew it would be me who would step up to that plate?
Naw, your song parody had 169% more content than any of Yatto's posts.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.
Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.
Try Revelation X. It's better. A lot better.
Being preachy, smug, and condescending myself, it's a good fit. You cant stand on street corners and preach the word of Eris as well as you can the word of "Bob". Not the I do when I'm not drunk, but still. Also, and this amounts to personal taste, I find SubGenius lit about 6 times funnier than Discordian lit. (Although, If I hadn't read PD before BotSG, that may not be the case.)
Part of what I like about it is the whole self contradicting Mythos. Discordia is a set of ideas, lain out rather plainly. CotSG gets its ideas across in a rather more complicated (convoluted) way. I'd almost call SubGenii fundamentalist Discordians (although not in the "True Discordians" way at all.) Rather, it's Discordia for people who would be fundamentalists if they were stupid enough to fall for, say, Xtianity. If I were Christian, I'm pretty sure I'd be the crazy guy with the 14 foot tall cross outside the theatre screaming condemnation at everybody. Instead I tell people I'm 1/4 Yeti and smoke a pipe (granted, I smoked a pipe before I'd ever heard of the Church, quit, and recently took it back up again; I dont dont smoke it because I'm a SG. That would be goofy.)
I really liked the bits about the luck plane, and everything on JHVH-1 gives me silver bullets for use on christians.
I feel that SubGenius stuff has more personal empowerment focus than Discordia, as goofy as that may sound. I read somewhere (may have been one of the PD intros, cant remember) that SubGenii take the stuff Discordians use to clean their third eyes and smoke it. I'd call that accurate.
SubGeniusism has more mouth-froth than Discordja.
Hopefully that rambling post helped a little.
Quote from: Doktor Loki on November 05, 2008, 06:44:44 PM
I feel that SubGenius stuff has more personal empowerment focus than Discordia, as goofy as that may sound. I read somewhere (may have been one of the PD intros, cant remember) that SubGenii take the stuff Discordians use to clean their third eyes and smoke it. I'd call that accurate.
SubGeniusism has more mouth-froth than Discordja.
Hopefully that rambling post helped a little.
This is exactly what I got out of reading the SubGenius book. I really enjoyed the self-empowerment parts of the BotSG. The bit about the aliens or whatever coming in 1998 is kind of where I lost it. To me that part is similar to the parts in the PD where it gets lost in its own joke. I guess, to me, it kind of lessened the impact of the impactful pieces. Also, I'm stingy and don't want to send money so I like Discordianism in that it's pretty much a freebie after you buy the book.
Or download it.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.
Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.
I think you may have really hit on it right here. The simple, Daoist qualities sorta bored me, just like the Dao De Ching kinda bored me. I like my religions complicated, convoluted, and hard to understand.
The aliens bit? 1. It does get lost in its own jokes, and thats one of the things I like. I get lost in my own jokes. 2. We'll see who's joking once 1998 comes around, boyo.
"Fuck you if you cant take a joke". Its a simple enough statement, but when I first saw it in writing, surrounded by the Stangs ravings, it was like a bomb going off behind my eyes. It's become my mantra. The Church has so much more black humor than Discordia, and I've always been a big fan of black humor.
I smell the hippy every time I read something Discordian (old school Discordian, at least, not so much BIP), and a hippy I am not. SubGenii seem meaner than Discordians on average, and being a dick myself I can really get behind that.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.
Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.
I actually found that stuff an ironic (but far more bitter then discordian) parody of certain cults. There are some really good peices in it TBOTSG, but they mostly come from a very negative place, so it can really depend on a persons state of mind
Hmm... I don't feel like a hippy, and I'm a fairly mean person most of the time.
Maybe I am a SubGenius . . .
Once upon a time, I tried to be a hippie.
It didn't work out.
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.
Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.
I actually found that stuff an ironic (but far more bitter then discordian) parody of certain cults. There are some really good peices in it TBOTSG, but they mostly come from a very negative place, so it can really depend on a persons state of mind
Yes, I'd say that SubGenius stuff is a lot more negative and bitter on the whole.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 07:11:53 PM
Hmm... I don't feel like a hippy, and I'm a fairly mean person most of the time.
Maybe I am a SubGenius . . .
I'm a discordian when I am in the mood for lighthearted fun, on the days that the only thing getting me out of bed is my caffeen addiction and the urge to ruin someones day I'm a subgenius.
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 07:11:53 PM
Hmm... I don't feel like a hippy, and I'm a fairly mean person most of the time.
Maybe I am a SubGenius . . .
I'm a discordian when I am in the mood for lighthearted fun, on the days that the only thing getting me out of bed is my caffeen addiction and the urge to ruin someones day I'm a subgenius.
this
HOLD THE PHONE....
You mean to tell me that all that is required is to be mean and nasty and that makes you SubGenius?
:evil:
...and a payment to Ivan Stang.
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.
Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.
Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.
Quote from: Khara on November 05, 2008, 07:18:38 PM
HOLD THE PHONE....
You mean to tell me that all that is required is to be mean and nasty and that makes you SubGenius?
:evil:
not exactly, its like saying such and such makes you a discordian, however fluff discordians are generally harmless pests (because of the core presentation of discordianism) and the subgenius fluff is... well its generally far more sinister
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.
Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.
Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.
The universe IS a pretty cool place. It monkies that enrage me. I'm pissed off all the time, but that isnt mutually exclusive with laughing and being amused for me.
yeah but the monkeys are an integral part of that cool universe.
and you're a monkey too
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.
Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.
Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.
the thing is, the way the book presents itself is that its ironic self importance (which is exactly the same and as laughable as regular self importance), I think it can be a very positive tool for people with low self confidence, but only inconjuntion with other material... or them using common sense to see where the meaning ends and the joke beggins
I can get behind that
Still waiting for Roger's take...
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:25:48 PM
yeah but the monkeys are an integral part of that cool universe.
and you're a monkey too
EXACTLY. And we SubGenii are ALL ABOUT jokes that are in bad taste, you see? Mankind is a dirty joke, and even though I'm slightly offended, I'm still laughing.
And I'm a hairier monkey.
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:26:22 PM
the thing is, the way the book presents itself is that its ironic self importance (which is exactly the same and as laughable as regular self importance), I think it can be a very positive tool for people with low self confidence, but only inconjuntion with other material... or them using common sense to see where the meaning ends and the joke beggins
It helped me with that. I would interject that part of the whole point, though, is that the meaning and the joke can't be easily seperated.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 07:31:36 PM
Still waiting for Roger's take...
Me too.
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
I am no monkey.
I, sir, am an ape.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.
Too preachy, too smug, too condescending, too profiteering for my taste. After reading 30 pages of cramped text about how awesome SubGenii are -- with barely any explanation as to WHY -- I lost interest. I can see how it would appeal to outsiders with superiority complexes. But it lacked the simple, taoist qualities that initially attracted me to Discordia.
:|
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Nothing.
When the rubber hits the road, the Subgenius is about Slack™. What is Slack™, you ask? Forgoing all the cutesy church jokes, Slack™ is the art of
enjoying the ride. Doing what you WANT to do, with the pitifully short time you have on this mudball, rather than spending your life doing something you hate, and dying miserably after a miserable life. Wasting your life being unhappy is the ONE true sin, and those who do so will be dropped down the chute into hell, where mean cops give you tickets and bill collectors bang on the door and everyone says they're happy, but they're really not, and they KNOW it, and they have huge puncture marks all over their backs and weird growths on their genitalia and...
...oops. I started off talking about Slack™, and wound up talking about Phoenix. My bad.
But you get the point.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.
Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.
Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.
Then you both, you and Dr Loki, missed the point. So do hundreds of bobbies who THINK they got the joke, but laughed at all the wrong parts and are STILL miserable despite their "inclusion" in the "joke". As "Bob" says, "You may think this is all a joke, but you'll NEVER get the punchline".
All the hate and negativity? Well, there's two takes on that, and both are equally correct. Some Subgenii hate humans, and want them all gone. Some just need to remind themselves how messed up things ARE, so they'll see the pitfalls ahead (those usually just want to enslave the humans).
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on November 06, 2008, 02:49:38 AM
Quote from: Doktor Loki on November 05, 2008, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 07:31:36 PM
Still waiting for Roger's take...
Me too.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:42:57 AM
:|
:lol:
Maybe you missed the quote tag. I was responding to Cram.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:51:55 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on November 06, 2008, 02:49:38 AM
Quote from: Doktor Loki on November 05, 2008, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 07:31:36 PM
Still waiting for Roger's take...
Me too.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:42:57 AM
:|
:lol:
Maybe you missed the quote tag. I was responding to Cram.
Nah, I saw it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:47:24 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Nothing.
When the rubber hits the road, the Subgenius is about Slack™. What is Slack™, you ask? Forgoing all the cutesy church jokes, Slack™ is the art of enjoying the ride. Doing what you WANT to do, with the pitifully short time you have on this mudball, rather than spending your life doing something you hate, and dying miserably after a miserable life. Wasting your life being unhappy is the ONE true sin, and those who do so will be dropped down the chute into hell, where mean cops give you tickets and bill collectors bang on the door and everyone says they're happy, but they're really not, and they KNOW it, and they have huge puncture marks all over their backs and weird growths on their genitalia and...
...oops. I started off talking about Slack™, and wound up talking about Phoenix. My bad.
But you get the point.
HAIL YES.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 03:10:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:47:24 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Nothing.
When the rubber hits the road, the Subgenius is about Slack™. What is Slack™, you ask? Forgoing all the cutesy church jokes, Slack™ is the art of enjoying the ride. Doing what you WANT to do, with the pitifully short time you have on this mudball, rather than spending your life doing something you hate, and dying miserably after a miserable life. Wasting your life being unhappy is the ONE true sin, and those who do so will be dropped down the chute into hell, where mean cops give you tickets and bill collectors bang on the door and everyone says they're happy, but they're really not, and they KNOW it, and they have huge puncture marks all over their backs and weird growths on their genitalia and...
...oops. I started off talking about Slack™, and wound up talking about Phoenix. My bad.
But you get the point.
HAIL YES.
That's the whole "Or Kill Me" thing.
Because the only way to stop a Subgenius from doing what he wants to do and saying what he wants to say is to kill him.
Perhaps there's hope for me yet.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 03:13:44 AM
Perhaps there's hope for me yet.
Unless someone kills you. Then you're just dead. Like poor little Uday, who was just trying to have a good time.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:47:24 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Nothing.
When the rubber hits the road, the Subgenius is about Slack™. What is Slack™, you ask? Forgoing all the cutesy church jokes, Slack™ is the art of enjoying the ride. Doing what you WANT to do, with the pitifully short time you have on this mudball, rather than spending your life doing something you hate, and dying miserably after a miserable life. Wasting your life being unhappy is the ONE true sin, and those who do so will be dropped down the chute into hell, where mean cops give you tickets and bill collectors bang on the door and everyone says they're happy, but they're really not, and they KNOW it, and they have huge puncture marks all over their backs and weird growths on their genitalia and...
...oops. I started off talking about Slack™, and wound up talking about Phoenix. My bad.
But you get the point.
THIS
this I dig a whole lot
Quote from: Cramulus on November 06, 2008, 03:21:06 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:47:24 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Roger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Nothing.
When the rubber hits the road, the Subgenius is about Slack™. What is Slack™, you ask? Forgoing all the cutesy church jokes, Slack™ is the art of enjoying the ride. Doing what you WANT to do, with the pitifully short time you have on this mudball, rather than spending your life doing something you hate, and dying miserably after a miserable life. Wasting your life being unhappy is the ONE true sin, and those who do so will be dropped down the chute into hell, where mean cops give you tickets and bill collectors bang on the door and everyone says they're happy, but they're really not, and they KNOW it, and they have huge puncture marks all over their backs and weird growths on their genitalia and...
...oops. I started off talking about Slack™, and wound up talking about Phoenix. My bad.
But you get the point.
THIS
this I dig a whole lot
Yeah, rebuking the heathen is really just a sideline, but it's funnier, so it gets more space in the book.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 03:14:50 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 03:13:44 AM
Perhaps there's hope for me yet.
Unless someone kills you. Then you're just dead. Like poor little Uday, who was just trying to have a good time.
History has proven you can't keep a Salazorian down. Even after cutting them into pieces. They
multiply.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 06, 2008, 03:21:06 AMQuote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 06, 2008, 02:47:24 AMQuote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 10:26:37 PMRoger . . . ?
Hellooo?
(I'm not letting this thread drift to the bottom)
Nothing.
When the rubber hits the road, the Subgenius is about Slack™. What is Slack™, you ask? Forgoing all the cutesy church jokes, Slack™ is the art of enjoying the ride. Doing what you WANT to do, with the pitifully short time you have on this mudball, rather than spending your life doing something you hate, and dying miserably after a miserable life. Wasting your life being unhappy is the ONE true sin, and those who do so will be dropped down the chute into hell, where mean cops give you tickets and bill collectors bang on the door and everyone says they're happy, but they're really not, and they KNOW it, and they have huge puncture marks all over their backs and weird growths on their genitalia and...
...oops. I started off talking about Slack™, and wound up talking about Phoenix. My bad.
But you get the point.
THIS
this I dig a whole lot
yes. i find it a lot harder that it sounds, though.
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 05, 2008, 07:18:38 PM
HOLD THE PHONE....
You mean to tell me that all that is required is to be mean and nasty and that makes you SubGenius?
:evil:
not exactly, its like saying such and such makes you a discordian, however fluff discordians are generally harmless pests (because of the core presentation of discordianism) and the subgenius fluff is... well its generally far more sinister
Sinister fluff.... there has to be a meme in there somewhere.
Still being fairly new to the whole Discordian idea, I also haven't got a lot of info on the SubGenius either so does anyone have a link to the download mentioned??
Quote from: Khara on November 06, 2008, 03:41:56 PM
Sinister fluff....
(http://www.boston.com/thingstodo/gotoit/fluff07_375.jpg)
Quote from: Khara on November 06, 2008, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 05, 2008, 07:18:38 PM
HOLD THE PHONE....
You mean to tell me that all that is required is to be mean and nasty and that makes you SubGenius?
:evil:
not exactly, its like saying such and such makes you a discordian, however fluff discordians are generally harmless pests (because of the core presentation of discordianism) and the subgenius fluff is... well its generally far more sinister
Sinister fluff.... there has to be a meme in there somewhere.
Still being fairly new to the whole Discordian idea, I also haven't got a lot of info on the SubGenius either so does anyone have a link to the download mentioned??
Which download?
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 06, 2008, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 05, 2008, 07:18:38 PM
HOLD THE PHONE....
You mean to tell me that all that is required is to be mean and nasty and that makes you SubGenius?
:evil:
not exactly, its like saying such and such makes you a discordian, however fluff discordians are generally harmless pests (because of the core presentation of discordianism) and the subgenius fluff is... well its generally far more sinister
Sinister fluff.... there has to be a meme in there somewhere.
Still being fairly new to the whole Discordian idea, I also haven't got a lot of info on the SubGenius either so does anyone have a link to the download mentioned??
Which download?
Now that I read it again, it was the Principia Discordia that was referred to. Damn!
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 06, 2008, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 05, 2008, 07:18:38 PM
HOLD THE PHONE....
You mean to tell me that all that is required is to be mean and nasty and that makes you SubGenius?
:evil:
not exactly, its like saying such and such makes you a discordian, however fluff discordians are generally harmless pests (because of the core presentation of discordianism) and the subgenius fluff is... well its generally far more sinister
Sinister fluff.... there has to be a meme in there somewhere.
Still being fairly new to the whole Discordian idea, I also haven't got a lot of info on the SubGenius either so does anyone have a link to the download mentioned??
Which download?
Possibly the mention someone made to downloading the PD.
Which is not the BotSG, or course.
Or is it?
Quote from: Payne on November 06, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 06, 2008, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: Faust on November 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 05, 2008, 07:18:38 PM
HOLD THE PHONE....
You mean to tell me that all that is required is to be mean and nasty and that makes you SubGenius?
:evil:
not exactly, its like saying such and such makes you a discordian, however fluff discordians are generally harmless pests (because of the core presentation of discordianism) and the subgenius fluff is... well its generally far more sinister
Sinister fluff.... there has to be a meme in there somewhere.
Still being fairly new to the whole Discordian idea, I also haven't got a lot of info on the SubGenius either so does anyone have a link to the download mentioned??
Which download?
Possibly the mention someone made to downloading the PD.
Which is not the BotSG, or course.
Or is it?
a joke, wrapped in religion, wrapped in someone else's joke?
I find the Discordians and SubG's very similar in their philosophy. The Discordians use absurd memes and models that poke fun of the Newage, Hippie, neoPagan movement, in an effort to provide a philosophical set of ideas. The SubG's use absurd memes and models that poke fun of the Fundamentalist, Money Grubbing, Cult groups, in an effort to provide a philosophical set of ideas.
Discordians are told not to believe anything.
Sub Geniuses are told to COMPLETELY BELIEVE things so absurd that it's unlikely that anyone would truly believe it.
It's two different ways to model "Think For Yourself".
I think both systems attack the Ego. Discordian philosophy slowly erodes the foundations of the Ego like the waves of the ocean against the cliff, while the Sub Geniuses either pump the ego full of helium until it pops, or points and laughs at your ego until it crawls off to hide in shame. I don't think the SubG stuff is negative, its parody... if you take the parody seriously, it sure seems negative.
IMO, I find the BiP to have a more bleak outlook than anything I've read from the SG presses. But, tha's entirely IMO.
Another interesting difference between the SubG and the DIscordians is media. We can collect all the known Discordian works and we'd probably have a few hundred documents, a couple videos, a little audio here and there...
The library of Sub Genius material is HUGE. Audio, Video, Radio Shows, Documents, Pranks Claymation etc etc etc. Not to mention Devivals, X Day, etc etc. Gigs of material, and thats just the stuff that's made it to digital format.
They may have a similar philosophical basis to Discordians, but something tends to push lots of creative output. Maybe its due to having a single Figurehead (Stang) that was so active for so long, versus Discordians that had two founders, one of which went off to live a normal life, the other became a hermit and lost several, if not all, of his marbles. The closest thing Discordianism had to a 'leader' was probably RAW and he was far more interested in his own ideas and philosophies than in maintaining a active national scene as Stang has.
One of my SubG friends said that it was because the Sub Genius is intent on putting his fist in the face of the Norm to find Enlightenment, while the Discordian is busy sticking his fist up his own bum to find Enlightenment.
My personal categorization goes likethis:
The Erisian sees the Cabbage and hopes it will become Human.
The Discordian sees the Cabbage and figures it might become human, or might not... but either way it will be good for some laughs.
The Sub Genius sees that Cabbage and makes Cole Slaw.
And, in some sense... they all see the Cabbage and know that they're looking in a mirror. :fnord:
Is Mark Mothersbaugh still with the CoSG? I recall reading somewhere that he left.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
I find the Discordians and SubG's very similar in their philosophy. The Discordians use absurd memes and models that poke fun of the Newage, Hippie, neoPagan movement, in an effort to provide a philosophical set of ideas. The SubG's use absurd memes and models that poke fun of the Fundamentalist, Money Grubbing, Cult groups, in an effort to provide a philosophical set of ideas.
Discordians are told not to believe anything.
Sub Geniuses are told to COMPLETELY BELIEVE things so absurd that it's unlikely that anyone would truly believe it.
It's two different ways to model "Think For Yourself".
I think both systems attack the Ego. Discordian philosophy slowly erodes the foundations of the Ego like the waves of the ocean against the cliff, while the Sub Geniuses either pump the ego full of helium until it pops, or points and laughs at your ego until it crawls off to hide in shame. I don't think the SubG stuff is negative, its parody... if you take the parody seriously, it sure seems negative.
IMO, I find the BiP to have a more bleak outlook than anything I've read from the SG presses. But, tha's entirely IMO.
Another interesting difference between the SubG and the DIscordians is media. We can collect all the known Discordian works and we'd probably have a few hundred documents, a couple videos, a little audio here and there...
The library of Sub Genius material is HUGE. Audio, Video, Radio Shows, Documents, Pranks Claymation etc etc etc. Not to mention Devivals, X Day, etc etc. Gigs of material, and thats just the stuff that's made it to digital format.
They may have a similar philosophical basis to Discordians, but something tends to push lots of creative output. Maybe its due to having a single Figurehead (Stang) that was so active for so long, versus Discordians that had two founders, one of which went off to live a normal life, the other became a hermit and lost several, if not all, of his marbles. The closest thing Discordianism had to a 'leader' was probably RAW and he was far more interested in his own ideas and philosophies than in maintaining a active national scene as Stang has.
One of my SubG friends said that it was because the Sub Genius is intent on putting his fist in the face of the Norm to find Enlightenment, while the Discordian is busy sticking his fist up his own bum to find Enlightenment.
My personal categorization goes likethis:
The Erisian sees the Cabbage and hopes it will become Human.
The Discordian sees the Cabbage and figures it might become human, or might not... but either way it will be good for some laughs.
The Sub Genius sees that Cabbage and makes Cole Slaw.
And, in some sense... they all see the Cabbage and know that they're looking in a mirror. :fnord:
These characterizations remind me of those two Zen schools of thought. I think the one was called Rinzai, and the other Soto.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 06, 2008, 06:13:00 PM
Is Mark Mothersbaugh still with the CoSG? I recall reading somewhere that he left.
When I took the MLA class on the SubG's, Mark was still one of them... so unless he left in the past year, I think he's still in. (Whatever in or out of the church means for SubG's ;-) ).
I am a big fan of his work on my daughter's favorite show Yo Gabba Gabba.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 06, 2008, 06:23:33 PM
I am a big fan of his work on my daughter's favorite show Yo Gabba Gabba.
OSHI, that explains a lot about that show.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PMThe closest thing Discordianism had to a 'leader' was probably RAW and he was far more interested in his own ideas and philosophies than in maintaining a active national scene as Stang has.
I love RAW to death, but he was more often than not latching on to other people's ideas and re-packaging them.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PMThe closest thing Discordianism had to a 'leader' was probably RAW and he was far more interested in his own ideas and philosophies than in maintaining a active national scene as Stang has.
I love RAW to death, but he was more often than not latching on to other people's ideas and re-packaging them.
Well, I had meant that in the sense that he was more interested in his own agenda of ideas and philosophies, not that he was popping out completely new and unique ideas.
Besides, I think mosbunal philosophy is "latching on to other people's ideas and re-packaging them" ;-)
SIMPSONS DID IT
You need to watch more South Park.
Basically the joke is "The Simpsons have been around longer than anything/anyone and anything you do, the Simpsons already did"
Quote from: TheScarletReaper on November 06, 2008, 07:56:50 PM
You need to watch more South Park.
Basically the joke is "The Simpsons have been around longer than anything/anyone and anything you do, the Simpsons already did"
Yeah, I recognized the reference, but I did not see how it was related to the posts that had been made. It was just sort of a left-field comment to my work-addled brain. But I guess, on second viewing, there is a tangential relation between that statement and the idea of RAW repackaging ideas. Unless I'm missing some other, more esoteric reference here.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.
Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.
Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.
That's pretty close to my feelings on it, though I'm probably more of a hippy depending on how you define hippy - I shower regularly, and I gots no hair on my noggin (lots elsewhere tho).
I found BotSB a scream and was very into it for a while, but the PD has more 'staying power' as an overall philosophy for my money; I'm happy to call Discordianism my religion and will cheerfully explain it to folks, which I can't see doing as a Subgenii. Money was a part of it too - for some reason the focus on money was a weird turn-off to me. That and a definitive apocalypse day, which now makes BotSG terribly dated IMO. Discordianism I find more easy-going, and I'm an easy-going kind of guy. I'm also easy, but that goes along with being a guy.
I've always thought of SubGenii as being to Discordians as Christians are to Jews. Take from that what you will - I do.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
My personal categorization goes likethis:
The Erisian sees the Cabbage and hopes it will become Human.
The Discordian sees the Cabbage and figures it might become human, or might not... but either way it will be good for some laughs.
The Sub Genius sees that Cabbage and makes Cole Slaw.
I had no idea there was a differentiation between Erisian and Discordian - I've been using them interchangably. I believe I shall use that little 'Search' field up thar to further enlighten myself.
Quote from: shadowfist23 on November 06, 2008, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 07:19:53 PM
Yeah, the negativity is core what repelled me.
Most of the time, I think the universe is actually a pretty cool place. It's exciting, dynamic, funny, and awesome. I believe that cabbages are generally well-meaning people until they inherit the curse of Greyface. I get the sense that Subgenii disagree - and they love to fuck over all those people.
Also, humans are flawed beings, and I'm a human so I'm no different. I'm certainly not a hippie by any measure, but I'm generally pretty "I'm okay you're okay". Most Subgenii I've met have been very "I'm okay, you're a piece of shit." I just think it's a waste of energy to be so pissed off and negative all the time. I can get just as much done but with a way lower bloodpressure.
That's pretty close to my feelings on it, though I'm probably more of a hippy depending on how you define hippy - I shower regularly, and I gots no hair on my noggin (lots elsewhere tho).
I found BotSB a scream and was very into it for a while, but the PD has more 'staying power' as an overall philosophy for my money; I'm happy to call Discordianism my religion and will cheerfully explain it to folks, which I can't see doing as a Subgenii. Money was a part of it too - for some reason the focus on money was a weird turn-off to me. That and a definitive apocalypse day, which now makes BotSG terribly dated IMO. Discordianism I find more easy-going, and I'm an easy-going kind of guy. I'm also easy, but that goes along with being a guy.
I've always thought of SubGenii as being to Discordians as Christians are to Jews. Take from that what you will - I do.
Quote from: Ratatosk on November 06, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
My personal categorization goes likethis:
The Erisian sees the Cabbage and hopes it will become Human.
The Discordian sees the Cabbage and figures it might become human, or might not... but either way it will be good for some laughs.
The Sub Genius sees that Cabbage and makes Cole Slaw.
I had no idea there was a differentiation between Erisian and Discordian - I've been using them interchangably. I believe I shall use that little 'Search' field up thar to further enlighten myself.
I think the
Discordians SubGenii that are really really into the "I'm OK, YOu're a piece of Shit" are about like the Discordians that run about saying LOL23PINEALFNORD... they get the first joke, and miss the underlying one. There's a famous SubG quote "Fuck em, if they can't take a joke." In the last book released, in a rant about SubG's, the new quote is "Fuck em, if they can't tell a joke".
Also, X Day is coming this year... its not dated at all. *looks at calendar...*Oh I mean, X Day is really coming NEXT year... its not dated at all. ;-)
Also, Erisian/Discordian is sometimes the same and sometimes different, depending on the whim of the speaker ;-)
I consider them the same.
Whens the next Prickle Prickle btw?
I ignore that calendar, and made up my own instead.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 06, 2008, 09:53:53 PM
I ignore that calendar, and made up my own instead.
Must hear teh hooplar calandar.
It's not as extravagant as one may expect.
It's just five months named after the Marx Brothers, and seven days named after the Seven Deadly Sins. Thats pretty much it. A date would be expressed as such:
Sloth, Harpo:1, 6008 YD
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Quote from: YattoDobbs on November 07, 2008, 03:29:37 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 05, 2008, 06:13:53 PM
I figured at least YattoDobbs would be able to fill a page with meaningless drivel on the subject . . .
yeah i could but i wont
See this? A tear.
Hey, at least it's not about politics or jesus.
Good point. :emo:
PD is an easier read but the BotSG has much more lulz.
And BotSG has much better cynicism. In a contest between hippies and headcases I'll back the headcases every time - Subgenii win
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 07, 2008, 09:58:58 AM
PD is an easier read but the BotSG has much more lulz.
And BotSG has much better cynicism. In a contest between hippies and headcases I'll back the headcases every time - Subgenii win
plus the book has the brag, which is useful for all manner or situations
BotSG is necessary for Revelation X, which is much better than the first book. Not that the first book is not bad, but RX justifies it quite well.
So is there or is there not a BotSB download?
It's worthless unless you pay your $30.
Put it on your Xmas wish-list. That's how I got my copy. My wife rocks!
Quote from: Khara on November 07, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
So is there or is there not a BotSB download?
Check the links in Principia Discussion, under the Discordian books thread (stickied).
Quote from: Suu on November 05, 2008, 06:15:52 PM
Your best bet would probably be Roger.
I have the Book of the Subgenius, I've gotten through it and got a few laughs out of it, but nothing enlightening. :kingmeh:
And so you are enlightened.
Quote from: Cain on November 07, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: Khara on November 07, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
So is there or is there not a BotSB download?
Check the links in Principia Discussion, under the Discordian books thread (stickied).
Found it!! Thanks Cain!!!
Quote from: Cramulus on November 05, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
to be honest, I've never made it through the Book of the Subgenius.
You're not supposed to.
You're supposed to open it at random and read.
And the "we're better than them" bit is, well, the fact that the CotSG is a direct parody of Scientology.
I have only met a few real Subgenii. One was a crazed Irish schoolteacher who wrote poetry and would sell everything back in the early ebay days under extreme PT Banum logic.
Quote from: Richter on July 13, 2010, 12:36:39 AM
I have only met a few real Subgenii. One was a crazed Irish schoolteacher who wrote poetry and would sell everything back in the early ebay days under extreme PT Banum logic.
That's a genuine holy man, that is.
I read the book from cover to cover, almost in one sitting, for whatever reason, it really sucked me in. For any Devin Townsend fans out there, I highly recommend reading the book while listening to the Biomech CD by Ocean Machine/Devin Townsend.
I think it was Doktor Loki earlier in this thread who said it has more mouth froth than Discordia, and that is very true. It does appeal to the "mad as hell" streak in me, that Discordia just doesn't ever really tap into.
Another thing I really enjoyed was the whole "Earth is Hell" meme. I know the thing was written like 30 years ago, but when you read that section, it can just as easily apply to the nonsense that is going on today. In fact, just thinking about this now is inspiring me to go back and read it again. If it weren't for the money-bit, and the Alien X-day bit, I probably would've gone more in the SG direction than the PD.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 13, 2010, 03:58:29 AM
Quote from: Richter on July 13, 2010, 12:36:39 AM
I have only met a few real Subgenii. One was a crazed Irish schoolteacher who wrote poetry and would sell everything back in the early ebay days under extreme PT Banum logic.
That's a genuine holy man, that is.
He decided the existing english curriculum sucked, and slipped in Lovecraft to spice things up. He had a hell of a time explaining the horror of "Pickman's Model" to a class of (supposedly "honors program") freshmen.
I once asked him for a recomendation to college. It consited of a scrap of cheap notebook paper with the following.
"Dear whatever,
Richter smart, college good for Richter.
He know stuff, and row boat.
Moo.
-J"
I sure as hell hope you both kept that, and used it.
Of course. It was too good not to. :lulz: