This thread is for finding out about our stuff being posted or discussed elsewhere on the web.
Specifically we're looking for evidence of OMGASM, The Black Iron Prison, Golden Apple Seed Missions, or really any talk about the PD forums.
If it seems appropriate, please use hxxp to link to forums or blogs. The aim is not to participate in the discussions linked here, but to observe the transmission of our ideas. If our memes are being transmitted, even if it's people tearing them up, it is good evidence of their strength.
(http://www.windibank.net/Articles/images/HowToString/protip.gif) use -negative operators to sort out stuff which isn't about us, but shares common words. the following search string will weed out a lot of noise.
"black iron prison" -valis
hxxp://forum.freehovind.com/browse-cat-15
There's a high possibility this is somebody from the forum.
here, they apparently used each article from the Black Iron Prison booklet to spam this creationist forum. The other users have names like "stopthechaos", so there's obviously some order/chaos tension there! A little response but no real discussion though. :p
hxxp://oneneatthingaday.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/3-9-08-the-black-iron-prison/
QuoteYour neat thing today is a companion piece to the Principia Discordia, called The Black Iron Prison. "Black iron prison" is a concept from Phillip K. Dick's VALIS trilogy - a concept of imprisonment so subtle that the prisoner doesn't know it exists. It's mental imprisonment. In my humble opinion, one of its manifestations is people turing their clocks backwards and forward for reasons they don't understand.
As Tim Boucher says:
Gnosticism generally asserts that the archons (which means literally "authorities") are the masters and architects of this prison, and that their goal is to control us completely. But in a way, I think we decide to let them.
The Black Iron Prison
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/bip/1.php
nice!
http://www.arcanology.com/2005/04/05/black-iron-prison/
He may have just been quoting Dick though. I don't know PKD well enough to say, but the guy seems like he is almost there, on the brink of the BIP ideas.
I left them a link to the BIP.
http://www.diggorypress.com/principia-discordia-magnum-opiate-malaclypse-younge-pri-872.html?reviews_id=54&osCsid=39...447bb94362157bfe525008bbe
this is a review of the Principia which mentions the BIP.
QuoteThe book itself is a pseudo religious text filled with the kind of truths that the big-box religions won't ever tell you. If you are the questioning sort, it may well be the key to unlocking the first doors of your personal black iron prison. If you don't know what BIP is, do not despair, that's just the way your were born into it.
http://www.closertogod.net/main/thoughts/worlddetail/BlackIronPrison.html
This guy actually came to PD and debated with us, but flounced after he made up his mind. Someone else might refresh us as to what happened there.
Oddly enough, here's Payne's piece "The Toymaker" translated into portugese
http://www.orkutcidio.org/epistola-aos-brasileiros-parte-2
whyyyyy are there so many Brazillian Discordians?
Two more links, these ones are kind of minor.
http://chaoism.net/discussion/index.php?action=printpage;topic=291.0
an advice thread. Somewhere in here, someone reccommends the BIP.
http://oneneatthingaday.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/3-28-08-violent-overthrow-of-the-american-government/
this is a reading list which mentions us. "If Discordians and gnostics are just one side of the same coin, then the Principia Discordia deserves a place in on any gnostic bookshelf. Its sister work, The Black Iron Prison, is especially valuable."
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 08:46:41 PM
Oddly enough, here's Payne's piece "The Toymaker" translated into portugese
http://www.orkutcidio.org/epistola-aos-brasileiros-parte-2
whyyyyy are there so many Brazillian Discordians?
Because Brazil is awesome, top to bottom.
Quote from: Requiem on November 30, 2008, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 08:46:41 PM
Oddly enough, here's Payne's piece "The Toymaker" translated into portugese
http://www.orkutcidio.org/epistola-aos-brasileiros-parte-2
whyyyyy are there so many Brazillian Discordians?
Because Brazil is awesome, top to bottom.
yeah totally
A brazillian woman in one of my girlfriend's classes recently commented on the sacred chao on my girlfriend's backpack. Didn't speak much english, but she was well acquianted with Discordia.
here's another of Payne's posts in Portugese:
http://orkutcidio.org/killmyspace/?m=200805
here's a portugese discordian wiki page about the Black Iron Prison
http://1001gatos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Black_Iron_Prison
hxxp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/blog.php?b=5
QuoteA Black Iron Prison has also appeared but this, whilst based on Horselover Fat/ Phil Dick's pink light revelation, is not up to the standard of the Principia.
the OMGASM entry at The Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=omgasm), and the two comments about it.
note "the bad reverend roger" is a sockpuppet for l oveshade
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb163/wompcabal/omgasmud.jpg)
EDIT TO ADD:
GO TO THAT SITE (above) AND CLICK THUMBS UP PLEASE!!
http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/kabbalahlite.html
I found this. I think Hugh had this on his site once. Also, this piece ended up on the 600club (a Satanist forum) some years ago, though the link is now dead.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
hxxp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/blog.php?b=5
QuoteA Black Iron Prison has also appeared but this, whilst based on Horselover Fat/ Phil Dick's pink light revelation, is not up to the standard of the Principia.
non functional link
Quote from: Requiem on November 30, 2008, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
hxxp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/blog.php?b=5
QuoteA Black Iron Prison has also appeared but this, whilst based on Horselover Fat/ Phil Dick's pink light revelation, is not up to the standard of the Principia.
non functional link
You have to copy & paste, it's been hxxp'd to make it non-clickable.
I did that, it got a 404. Working now though.
Quote from: Requiem on December 01, 2008, 12:49:12 AM
I did that, it got a 404. Working now though.
Oh, OK. :) I checked the link and then wondered why it seemed you didn't know about hxxp... confusion over.
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 08:41:36 PM
http://www.closertogod.net/main/thoughts/worlddetail/BlackIronPrison.html
This guy actually came to PD and debated with us, but flounced after he made up his mind. Someone else might refresh us as to what happened there.
Yes, this was Laz. He came here and acted all interested in the BIP. Then he started asking questions, then he started disagreeing alot, and not getting it. Then we came to find out that he really really didn't get it when someone stumbled upon this website. Because as opposed to AKK, I don't think he bothered once to plug his site. He obviously was here to gather material for his site. There is a thread in this subforum somewhere where LHX, LMNO, and myself all wrote responses to his critique of the BIP. I'll see if I can find it and add the link here.
Whoa, I checked that guy's site, he appears to be really stupid but have decent web development skills WTF.
I am going to assume that he is unemployed, based on his website.
Here is the thread where some of us tore apart his summation of BIP:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11541.0 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11541.0)
And here are the two threads where the bulk of the exchanges with Laz occurred:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11541.0 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11541.0)
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11193.msg347357#msg347357 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11193.msg347357#msg347357)
good times.
Oh look, he has a page for Wade:
http://www.closertogod.net/main/thoughts/worlddetail/Hamsters.html
Whoa, that Benaclypse dude was kind of a dick.
Yeah. He was.
And also that thread was the impetus for the wiki. I suppose something good came out of it afterall.
Quote from: Doc Howl on February 15, 2007, 08:51:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 05, 2007, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: CloserToGodI have broken free of the BIP and I find that it is actually a lonely place, it is not populated with individuals, but it does not have any further walls and is not devoid of life. It is a free place that is to be explored and learnt from.
This paragraph alone makes it painfully clear that you have no understanding of what we are saying. You obviously took a quick glance at the metaphor and it,Äôs symbolism, and came to a quick conclusion based upon your own biases, as opposed to the extensive dialogs that can be found here.
It looks more like this "closer to God" guy is trying to pass himself off as some sort of guru or swami. "Hey, look at me! I've already transcended everything you are experiencing!". Unfortunately, that still won't get him laid on the internet.
:lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 08:46:41 PM
Oddly enough, here's Payne's piece "The Toymaker" translated into portugese
http://www.orkutcidio.org/epistola-aos-brasileiros-parte-2
whyyyyy are there so many Brazillian Discordians?
Apparently one of the most famous blogs there is run by a Discordian. It may give it that sort of internet/media cred and recognition that it does not have over here.
This has inspired me to decide to spend next winter in Sao Paulo.
http://clemtaur.livejournal.com/14579.html
has a bunch of good calvinball larp posters
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 08:41:36 PM
http://www.closertogod.net/main/thoughts/worlddetail/BlackIronPrison.html
This guy actually came to PD and debated with us, but flounced after he made up his mind. Someone else might refresh us as to what happened there.
Argh. What a cabbage.
"BIP is not dark."
Is the Benaclypse from here http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11541.0 (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11541.0)
The same one who gave us.....
"The mainstream is a sewer. Learn to swim!" - Benaclypse
???
Because THAT is one of my favorite memes.
Otherwise. I remember the Closer to God guy. Thought he was the know all end all of everything. Came here telling the people who actually wrote the BIP how they were wrong and shit? Same asshole right?
Laz. And at first, he seemed interested in what we were doing. Maybe it was an act, who knows. But then he started arguing, and it was the arguing without listening act. Then he left. Then he did the write-up on closertogod. I sent him a couple e-mails inviting him to come back and answer a few questions we had about the write up but he's never come back.
First time I've been in this thread and ironically, I saw this earlier: hxxp://ursulav.livejournal.com/851452.html?thread=32755196#t32755196 (http://hxxp://ursulav.livejournal.com/851452.html?thread=32755196#t32755196)
If I'm correct in my thinking that OM is ours, then Hemlox has obviously heard of us somewhere. And Neintales has at least heard of Discordianism.
OM's not a term specific to the forum, however. Its mentioned in Illuminatus and later Discordian books, they may have picked it up there.
Also, how do all you people manage to dig through LJ for all this stuff? Going there hurts my head.
Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
OM's not a term specific to the forum, however. Its mentioned in Illuminatus and later Discordian books, they may have picked it up there.
Also, how do all you people manage to dig through LJ for all this stuff? Going there hurts my head.
Aw, damn. I was wrong in my thinking then. I need to read the Illuminatus...
I'm subscribed to Urusula Vernon and that was where the comment was. I don't go digging through LJ for anything.
Quote from: Valerie on January 27, 2009, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
OM's not a term specific to the forum, however. Its mentioned in Illuminatus and later Discordian books, they may have picked it up there.
Also, how do all you people manage to dig through LJ for all this stuff? Going there hurts my head.
Aw, damn. I was wrong in my thinking then. I need to read the Illuminatus...
I'm subscribed to Urusula Vernon and that was where the comment was. I don't go digging through LJ for anything.
http://kamita.com/misc/illuminatus/illuminatus.html
Ah. Still, that goes for other people on here as well. Basically, I want to insult LJ. I'm sure there are many nice people on there, but the layout does my head in. As does much of the content. At least, the content I see.
Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2009, 09:28:26 PM
http://kamita.com/misc/illuminatus/illuminatus.html
Ah. Still, that goes for other people on here as well. Basically, I want to insult LJ. I'm sure there are many nice people on there, but the layout does my head in. As does much of the content. At least, the content I see.
Holy crap. Is that all three of the books? That's kinda crazy. Thank you.
Yeah, thats all three. No problem.
Livejournal
blogging: for preteens!
Blogging
Livejournal: for people old enough to know better!
QuoteWhat I have found is that this analogy is a an unenlightened one, for it tells of failure to achieve enlightenment, and you had better not try again
BIP IS NOT WRITTEN BY HOMER :argh!:
Quote from: YattoDobbs on January 27, 2009, 11:43:07 PM
QuoteWhat I have found is that this analogy is a an unenlightened one, for it tells of failure to achieve enlightenment, and you had better not try again
BIP IS NOT WRITTEN BY HOMER :argh!:
:lulz:
Lol, Cool Idea. The Scythian references were cool, too. I dropped a comment that let her onto the fact that the Scythian FireGoddess Tabhiti/Rhea has quite a few connections to Eris/Enyo.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 24, 2009, 12:19:19 AM
http://clemtaur.livejournal.com/14579.html
has a bunch of good calvinball larp posters
:fap:
ps someone should give them an updated url, the one they have for the pdf is marked for death
Quote from: Valerie on January 27, 2009, 11:09:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2009, 09:28:26 PM
http://kamita.com/misc/illuminatus/illuminatus.html
Ah. Still, that goes for other people on here as well. Basically, I want to insult LJ. I'm sure there are many nice people on there, but the layout does my head in. As does much of the content. At least, the content I see.
Holy crap. Is that all three of the books? That's kinda crazy. Thank you.
Best part about that site is the search function, for when you're looking for a specific quote or scene, and don't care about hundreds of fake band names.
The BIP is being reblogged at http://5thdiscordianchurchtx.tumblr.com
Awesome. Someone we know?
not that I'm aware of! Found this via google alerts.
Too bad he didn't add any of his own thoughts. It says there are "notes" with some of the chapters, but apparently on Tumblr, a "note" just means that "X liked this" or "Y reblogged this" :)
Quote from: Cramulus on November 30, 2008, 10:13:00 PM
note "the bad reverend roger" is a sockpuppet for l oveshade
HAH! I fucking KNEW it.
He's why I left 23ae. There was nothing quite like having that piece of shit pedo dog my steps.