Shortly after the Challenger disaster there was all of this talk from NASA about how they were going to design a better escape protocol and develop better escape systems to make Shuttle failures survivable. It seems judging by this latest report on the Columbia disaster that they didn't make any significant strides in that endeavour.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28436243/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28436243/)
On another note, how would you have liked to be that poor sap who actually was alive for a minute while his or her spaceship was disintegrating around them? Jeezus fuck.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 30, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
Shortly after the Challenger disaster there was all of this talk from NASA about how they were going to design a better escape protocol and develop better escape systems to make Shuttle failures survivable. It seems judging by this latest report on the Columbia disaster that they didn't make any significant strides in that endeavour.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28436243/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28436243/)
On another note, how would you have liked to be that poor sap who actually was alive for a minute while his or her spaceship was disintegrating around them? Jeezus fuck.
Ground Control to Major Tom...
Better escape systems?
Uh, how about NASA needs to quit dicking around and send people into space using something that isn't nearly 30 years old, instead?
actually, how about NASA quit sending unneeded people into space when its much cheaper and safer to just send up new sattelites etc without human piggybacking? No body has pictures of astronauts postered on their walls anyway, its pictures of the crab nebula and saturn, all taken by unmanned space craft. Once the astronauts are back safe on earth the public stops caring. Maybe it was different in the 60s but now its so routine they don't pay attention. NASA needs to drop the human exploration a great amount and focus on safer, cheaper exploration that turns out results the public is interested in, plus, results that are much more interesting to science.
Quote from: Kai on December 31, 2008, 02:50:10 AM
actually, how about NASA quit sending unneeded people into space when its much cheaper and safer to just send up new sattelites etc without human piggybacking? No body has pictures of astronauts postered on their walls anyway, its pictures of the crab nebula and saturn, all taken by unmanned space craft. Once the astronauts are back safe on earth the public stops caring. Maybe it was different in the 60s but now its so routine they don't pay attention. NASA needs to drop the human exploration a great amount and focus on safer, cheaper exploration that turns out results the public is interested in, plus, results that are much more interesting to science.
I completely agree with you. Look at what's been acheived on Mars without a single human ever setting foot on the planet. Sending men to Mars is but a glorified photo op and a feel-good story. The money put into the safety systems for such a trip could surely be invested in some advanced robotics that could do whatever the humans were going to do.
Troof. Sending people up has (had, really) some romantic appeal, but if we really want to learn what goes on out there, there's safer and more effective ways of doing that.
the ultimate goal of space exploration should be endowing humanity with the ability to get the fuck off this rock if necessary. to that end, manned space exploration, while probably not needed on today's scale, should not be scrapped completely.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 03, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
the ultimate goal of space exploration should be endowing humanity with the ability to get the fuck off this rock if necessary. to that end, manned space exploration, while probably not needed on today's scale, should not be scrapped completely.
I agree. I just don't think every little thing needs a spacewalk, and once we have figured out we can do something, have the technology to do it and it becomes routine, then there probably isn't much more reason to do it other than romanticism. NASA's been doing the same thing for years now in terms of human exploration of space. Aside from the ISS nothing new has really come from them in regards to that recently. If we're working towards some sort of permanent exoterran colony, then NASA should be looking at technologies that allow you to support life (water, air, food, fuel) detached from earth.
Wait.... wasn't that a Pauly Shore movie?
Quote from: Telarus on January 04, 2009, 09:41:20 PM
Wait.... wasn't that a Pauly Shore movie?
What, Biodome?
:lulz:
Not to many of those memes around in the popular entertainment genres right now, I agree.
Quote from: Kai on January 04, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 03, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
the ultimate goal of space exploration should be endowing humanity with the ability to get the fuck off this rock if necessary. to that end, manned space exploration, while probably not needed on today's scale, should not be scrapped completely.
I agree. I just don't think every little thing needs a spacewalk, and once we have figured out we can do something, have the technology to do it and it becomes routine, then there probably isn't much more reason to do it other than romanticism. NASA's been doing the same thing for years now in terms of human exploration of space. Aside from the ISS nothing new has really come from them in regards to that recently. If we're working towards some sort of permanent exoterran colony, then NASA should be looking at technologies that allow you to support life (water, air, food, fuel) detached from earth.
it appears that you and I are in complete agreement.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 05, 2009, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: Kai on January 04, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 03, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
the ultimate goal of space exploration should be endowing humanity with the ability to get the fuck off this rock if necessary. to that end, manned space exploration, while probably not needed on today's scale, should not be scrapped completely.
I agree. I just don't think every little thing needs a spacewalk, and once we have figured out we can do something, have the technology to do it and it becomes routine, then there probably isn't much more reason to do it other than romanticism. NASA's been doing the same thing for years now in terms of human exploration of space. Aside from the ISS nothing new has really come from them in regards to that recently. If we're working towards some sort of permanent exoterran colony, then NASA should be looking at technologies that allow you to support life (water, air, food, fuel) detached from earth.
it appears that you and I are in complete agreement.
Seems that way, though, I can't remember the last time you and I got in an argument.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 05, 2009, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: Kai on January 04, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on January 03, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
the ultimate goal of space exploration should be endowing humanity with the ability to get the fuck off this rock if necessary. to that end, manned space exploration, while probably not needed on today's scale, should not be scrapped completely.
I agree. I just don't think every little thing needs a spacewalk, and once we have figured out we can do something, have the technology to do it and it becomes routine, then there probably isn't much more reason to do it other than romanticism. NASA's been doing the same thing for years now in terms of human exploration of space. Aside from the ISS nothing new has really come from them in regards to that recently. If we're working towards some sort of permanent exoterran colony, then NASA should be looking at technologies that allow you to support life (water, air, food, fuel) detached from earth.
it appears that you and I are in complete agreement.
i agree that you two are in agreement.
I disagree, because I can.
I think if I have to be stuck on the planet, so should the rest of humanity, until the earth is burnt by the sun in 5 billion years time.
I've taken petty spite to a whole new level. Epic spite, maybe.
clones and/or robobots will be the first people to populate the moon, after sick of being treated as slaves for many years
Quote from: Knight of the Banana-shaped table on January 06, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
clones and/or robobots will be the first people to populate the moon, after they then become sick of being treated as slaves for many years
Quote from: Cain on January 06, 2009, 03:32:14 PM
I think if I have to be stuck on the planet, so should the rest of humanity, until the earth is burnt by the sun in 5 billion years time.
I've taken petty spite to a whole new level. Epic spite, maybe.
More like Epoch Spite!
Quote from: Knight of the Banana-shaped table on January 06, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
clones and/or robobots will be the first people to populate the moon, after sick of being treated as slaves for many years
You mean robits?
robots mixed with sealab's bar bo bots
Quote from: Knight of the Banana-shaped table on January 06, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
robobots
I kind of like the meta-reference created by robobots
not just robots, ROBOTIC robots.
Quote from: Risus on January 08, 2009, 07:25:03 AM
Quote from: Knight of the Banana-shaped table on January 06, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
clones and/or robobots will be the first people to populate the moon, after sick of being treated as slaves for many years
You mean robits?
I think he meant robots that smoked frop from a pipe.
Quote from: Primrose on January 08, 2009, 02:17:51 PM
Quote from: Knight of the Banana-shaped table on January 06, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
robobots
I kind of like the meta-reference created by robobots
not just robots, ROBOTIC robots.
Or maybe he was referring to the device invented in Soviet Russia: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Future_%E2%98%ADf_tomorrow%2C_today!
Quote====Robobots====
Is working for glory of mother Russia leaving you too little time for cooking of home? Are coffee cold by time you sit down to be drinking cup of? Is feet of your family sore from standing in line at State-owned L'il Lenin's Place of Grocery?
Fret not, comrade. Soon all citizens of city apartment dwelling with be having a robobot maid or butler to share with members of collective for take drudgery out of domicile! Each robobot is equip with strength of bear for crushing cans of beans, when empty from eating.
Use robobot for waking of you in morning, for work. Alarm is set with easy adjusting, and clock of digital blinks '12:00' for to bring joy of happy on face of childrens.
For safety of family, robobots of household-type are programmed with both Asimov's laws for robobotics. Robobots programmed to be not harming property of State or State property. Rejoice! For safety of State, robobots will be in awake of awareness and watching you and family of yours to ensure that ideals of communists is acheived.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/0/01/CommieNikita_Khrushchevandrobobot.jpg)
Quote from: Risus on January 08, 2009, 07:25:03 AM
Quote from: Knight of the Banana-shaped table on January 06, 2009, 09:31:03 PM
clones and/or robobots will be the first people to populate the moon, after sick of being treated as slaves for many years
You mean robits?
I heard Robits are in fact mechanical time-travelling alien rabbits.