Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Principia Discussion => Topic started by: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:06:53 AM

Title: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:06:53 AM
I've been reading up on the strife engendered by the Discordian Works page, and I wanted to share some of what's been going on. Recently, I went over to 23ae and posted a notice (http://23ae.com/index.asp?post=468) about us winning the battle at the O:MF page. If you check out the comments, our buddy DrJon Swabey bristles against good old Rev Uncle BadTouch...


the first comment sets up the conflict:
Quote from: Not Necessarily Who I Claim To Be

Now what we need to do is get the Discordian Works article back where it should be. It listed a dozen Discordian works, until two editors who disapprove of anything post-Principia hacked it to pieces. It was a battle, but unfortunately one of the Mal-Contents was a SYSOP/ADMINISTRATOR.

right. sysops kill discordian works. we've been over this. that's about as much as I'd known about it



so DrJon kindly clarified for us:

Quote from: DrJonHis Scrambledness the Dev.RoktorJon - @Not Necessarily Who I Claim To Be: ...

And one of the two warring parties you mention wasn't a Fundamentalist Discordian at all, but was actually strongly associated with a rather loud and self-opinionated NeoDiscordianesque cabal, which has been embarking on a sockpuppet wikiturfing (http://wikidumper.blogspot.com/2006/12/wikiturfing.html) selfpromotional campaign for the last few years.

And the reason all of this happened was because the Fundamentalist Discordian was a sysop and got pissed off with the spaghead sockpuppets going on about stuff he didn't recognise as Discordian: for example, advocating Child Sex.

The stuff you talk about that gets "cut fast" has been almost purely the product of and promotion for that one NeoDiscordianesque cabal. It's been totally unrepresentative of and misrepresentative of Discordianism as a whole. And given how vastly weird and wonderful Discordianism is, that's saying something.

Myself, I've come to the opinion that the types of folks seeking Validation for their brand of NeoDiscordianesquism through recognition on Wikipedia are a good example of what I'd technically call "spagging wanksplats".

Which is not to say they shouldn't be applauded for their efforts to promote themselves, and not to say they're not a valid expression of NeoDiscordianesquism.

But it most certainly is to say that as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather not be used as cannon fodder in a wikiturf war, let alone have the only information about my work -- the writings of 40 years of Discordians -- be as a stepladder for someone else to go on about how spagging wonderful they are... let alone be insulted and abused by anonymous sockpuppets.

It most certainly is to say that as far as I'm concerned, such folks can go fuck themselves.

So it should be clear that DrJon is writing about Uncle BadTouch. Uncle BadTouch and Dr J go back and forth a bit, and Uncle BadTouch gave the PD forums a slight tip of the hat, sort of) is interesting in that it contains .  But what's interesting is that he links to the wikipedia admin's characterization of him...

http://shii.org/knows/Discordianism

Well I'll be damned! This wikipedia admin, shii, is a Discordian himself. And all along we thought he was some draconian grayface - but actually he's been trying to keep Uncle BadTouch's version of Discordia from presenting itself as a core part of Discordia.

Going through shii's site, he seems to be a total bad ass. Look at this: http://shii.org/knows/Freedom_From_Atheism - are we on the same page as him or what?
The guys' site is full of great stuff like that. Like http://shii.org/knows/Time




We should get him here, damnit.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 03:17:23 AM
Some of the Loveshady-relevant pages, for lulz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Discordian_works

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Reverend_Loveshade#Shii.27s_.28formerly_Ashibaka.29_Wikipedian_comments_about_me_and_my_work
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Messier Undertree on January 16, 2009, 03:20:17 AM
I've talked to Shii a few times in 4-ch IRC and I can confirm that he is a pretty cool guy.

VIP quality even. One might go as far as to call him a VIP☆STAR.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:23:06 AM
I heard he built 4chan using only punchcards
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: the last yatto on January 16, 2009, 03:53:16 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:06:53 AM
We should get him here, damnit.

hes already here and laughing at our expense
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: the last yatto on January 16, 2009, 03:54:55 AM
wheres blackironprison?

ps Summa Universalia still has the Uncle BadTouch taint
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:55:30 AM
Quote from: YattoDobbs on January 16, 2009, 03:53:16 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:06:53 AM
We should get him here, damnit.

hes already here and laughing at our expense

clarify: do you mean that shii is already at this forum?
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 16, 2009, 04:03:14 AM
Hrmmm, this Shii fellow sounds interesting.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Messier Undertree on January 16, 2009, 04:04:04 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:55:30 AM
Quote from: YattoDobbs on January 16, 2009, 03:53:16 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 03:06:53 AM
We should get him here, damnit.

hes already here and laughing at our expense

clarify: do you mean that shii is already at this forum?

He definitely knows about this place already. I linked him to an argument I had with Uncle BadTouch a while ago.

And, being a Discordian, he probably already knew about this place before that.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 16, 2009, 04:12:21 AM
He also linked to it in the essay Nigel linked.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on January 16, 2009, 04:12:21 AM
He also linked to it in the essay Nigel linked.

What essay? I linked? Whut?
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 06:19:32 AM
I screwed up the first link BTW. It was supposed to be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Discordian_works
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 06:21:15 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on January 16, 2009, 04:12:21 AM
He also linked to it in the essay Nigel linked.

I found it.

Um, I would have sworn that link was not there this morning. WTF.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 06:23:00 AM
OK, I don't feel like such an idiot. He registered today. :)
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 06:24:15 AM
And then I did my little happy dance and posted yet again.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 09:32:33 AM
Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaOFFICIAL HANDBOOK: The Honest Book Of Truth, which runs into
several esoteric volumes, including: THE FIVE PILLARS OF RUBBISH;
THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO OMAR; THE CHAOSPHE BIBLE; THE BOOKS OF
BOKONON; THE WAY OF THE CHAO; and many others which, like most of
the above, have not yet been written — but we're working on them.
UNOFFICIAL PUBLICATIONS: The Lay Books (not to be confused with
obscene literature) which include at present: CATCH-22; CAT'S
CRADLE; and ONE FLEW OVER THE COOKCO'3 NESTS.

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/06.html (http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/06.html)
The five Pillars of rubbish is not mentioned in the Wiki article nor are The Gospel Acording to Omar; The Books of Bokonon; nor the Way of the Chao which could be argued to have been worked on.
Also contains an excerpt from the "SUMMA UNIVERSALIA"

Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaTHE MYTH OF ICHABOD

   There once was a huge boulder, perched precariously, on the
edge of a cliff.  For hundreds of years this boulder was there,
rocking and swaying, but always keeping its balance just perfectly.
But one year, there happened to be a sever windstorm; severe enough
it was, to topple the  boulder from its majectic height and dash it
to the bottom cf the cliff, far far below.  Needless to say, the
boulder was smashed into many pieces.  Where it hit, the ground was
covered with a carpet of pebbles--some small and some large--but
pebbles and pebbles and more pebbles for as far as you could walk
in an hour.

   One day, after all this, a young man by the name of Ichabod
happened on the area.  Being a fellow of keen mind and observational
powers, naturally he was quite astounded to see so many stones
scattered so closely on the ground.  Now, Ichabod was very much
interested in the nature of things, and he spent the whole afternoon
looking at pebbles, and measuring the size of pebbles, and feeling
the weight of pebbles, and just pondering about pebbles in general.

   He spent the night there, not wanting to lose this miraculous
find, and awoke the next morning full of enthusiasm.  He spent
many days on his carpet of stones.

   Eventually he noticed a very strange thing.  There were three
rather large stones on the carpet and they formed a triangle--
almost (but not quite) equilateral.  He was amazed.  Looking further
he found four very white stones that were arranged in a lopsided
square.  Then he saw that by disregarding one white stone and
thinking of that grey stone a foot over instead, it was a perfect
square!  And if you chose this stone, and that stone, and that one,
and that one and that one you have a pentagon as large as the tri-
angle.  And here a small hexagon.  And there a square partially
inside of the hexagon.  And a decagon.  And two triangles inter-
locked.  And a circle.  And a smaller circle within the circle.
And a triangle within that which has a red stone, a grey stone and
a white stone.

   Ichabod spent many hours finding many designs that became
more and more complicated as his powers of observation grew with
practice.  Then he began to log his designs in a large leather
book; and as he counted designs and described them, the pages
began to fill as the sun continued to return.

   He had begun his second ledger when a friend came by.  His
friend was a poet and also interested in the nature of things.

   "My friend," cried Ichabod, "come quickly!  I have discovered
the most wonderous thing in the universe."  The poet hurried over
to him, quite anxious to see what it was.

   Ichabod showed him the carpet of stones...but the poet only
laughed and said "It's nothing but scattered rocks!"

   "But look," said Ichabod, 'see this triangle and that [square]
and that and that."  And he proceeded to show his friend theharvest of his many days study. When the poet saw the designs he
turned to the ledgers and by the time he was finished with these,
he too was overwhelmed.

   He began to write poetry about the marvelous designs.  And as
he wrote and contemplated he became sure that the designs must
mean something.  Such order and beauty is too monumental to be
senseless.  And the designs were there, Ichabod had showed him [that.]

   The poet went back to the village and read his new poetry.
And all who heard him went to the cliff to see first hand the [carpet]
of designs.  And all returned to the village to spread the word.
Then as the enthusiasm grew there developed a group of those who
love beauty and nature, all of whom went to live right at the
Designs themselves.  Together they wanted to see every design that
was there.

   Some wrote ledger about just triangles.  Others described the
circles.  Others concentrated on red colored stones--and they
happened to be the first to see designs springing from outside the
carpet.  They, and some others, saw designs everywhere they went.

   "How blind we have been," they said.

   The movement grew and grew and grew.  And all who could see the
designs knew that they had to have been put there by a Great Force.
"Nothing but a Great Force," said the philosophers, "could create
this immense beauty!"

   "Yes," said the world, "nothing but a god could create such
magnificent order.  Nothing but a God."

   And that was the day that God was born.  And ever since then,
all men have known Him for His infinite power and all men have
loved Him for His infinite wisdom.


-----


Exerpted from a treatise concerning The Nature of Gods and The
Eristesque Movement, to be found in the SUMMA UNIVERSALIA, the
Holy Work of MALACLYPSE (THE YOUNGER), K.C., Omniscient Polyfather
of Virginity-in-gold, and High Priest of The Heretic Fringe and
Protestant Persuasion of the ERISIAN MOVEMENT of the DISCORDIAN
SOCIETY ===== Hail Eris

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/13.html (http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/13.html)
http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/14.html (http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/14.html)

Because the part about the Summa Universalia says the name is mentioned. it's not only mentioned but quoted from.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2009, 11:07:13 AM
Shii is registered and activated.  Hi Shii!

I thought I recognized that name from somewhere...and I knew Davedim knew a "Shii" from somewhere, but this makes a whole lot of sense.

Fucking Uncle BadTouch, messing shit up for everyone else.  I shoulda expected that right from the start.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 09:32:33 AM
Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaOFFICIAL HANDBOOK: The Honest Book Of Truth, which runs into
several esoteric volumes, including: THE FIVE PILLARS OF RUBBISH;
THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO OMAR; THE CHAOSPHE BIBLE; THE BOOKS OF
BOKONON; THE WAY OF THE CHAO; and many others which, like most of
the above, have not yet been written — but we're working on them.
UNOFFICIAL PUBLICATIONS: The Lay Books (not to be confused with
obscene literature) which include at present: CATCH-22; CAT'S
CRADLE; and ONE FLEW OVER THE COOKCO'3 NESTS.

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/06.html (http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/06.html)
The five Pillars of rubbish is not mentioned in the Wiki article nor are The Gospel Acording to Omar; The Books of Bokonon; nor the Way of the Chao which could be argued to have been worked on.
Also contains an excerpt from the "SUMMA UNIVERSALIA"

Quote from: First Edition Principia DiscordiaTHE MYTH OF ICHABOD

   There once was a huge boulder, perched precariously, on the
edge of a cliff.  For hundreds of years this boulder was there,
rocking and swaying, but always keeping its balance just perfectly.
But one year, there happened to be a sever windstorm; severe enough
it was, to topple the  boulder from its majectic height and dash it
to the bottom cf the cliff, far far below.  Needless to say, the
boulder was smashed into many pieces.  Where it hit, the ground was
covered with a carpet of pebbles--some small and some large--but
pebbles and pebbles and more pebbles for as far as you could walk
in an hour.

   One day, after all this, a young man by the name of Ichabod
happened on the area.  Being a fellow of keen mind and observational
powers, naturally he was quite astounded to see so many stones
scattered so closely on the ground.  Now, Ichabod was very much
interested in the nature of things, and he spent the whole afternoon
looking at pebbles, and measuring the size of pebbles, and feeling
the weight of pebbles, and just pondering about pebbles in general.

   He spent the night there, not wanting to lose this miraculous
find, and awoke the next morning full of enthusiasm.  He spent
many days on his carpet of stones.

   Eventually he noticed a very strange thing.  There were three
rather large stones on the carpet and they formed a triangle--
almost (but not quite) equilateral.  He was amazed.  Looking further
he found four very white stones that were arranged in a lopsided
square.  Then he saw that by disregarding one white stone and
thinking of that grey stone a foot over instead, it was a perfect
square!  And if you chose this stone, and that stone, and that one,
and that one and that one you have a pentagon as large as the tri-
angle.  And here a small hexagon.  And there a square partially
inside of the hexagon.  And a decagon.  And two triangles inter-
locked.  And a circle.  And a smaller circle within the circle.
And a triangle within that which has a red stone, a grey stone and
a white stone.

   Ichabod spent many hours finding many designs that became
more and more complicated as his powers of observation grew with
practice.  Then he began to log his designs in a large leather
book; and as he counted designs and described them, the pages
began to fill as the sun continued to return.

   He had begun his second ledger when a friend came by.  His
friend was a poet and also interested in the nature of things.

   "My friend," cried Ichabod, "come quickly!  I have discovered
the most wonderous thing in the universe."  The poet hurried over
to him, quite anxious to see what it was.

   Ichabod showed him the carpet of stones...but the poet only
laughed and said "It's nothing but scattered rocks!"

   "But look," said Ichabod, 'see this triangle and that [square]
and that and that."  And he proceeded to show his friend theharvest of his many days study. When the poet saw the designs he
turned to the ledgers and by the time he was finished with these,
he too was overwhelmed.

   He began to write poetry about the marvelous designs.  And as
he wrote and contemplated he became sure that the designs must
mean something.  Such order and beauty is too monumental to be
senseless.  And the designs were there, Ichabod had showed him [that.]

   The poet went back to the village and read his new poetry.
And all who heard him went to the cliff to see first hand the [carpet]
of designs.  And all returned to the village to spread the word.
Then as the enthusiasm grew there developed a group of those who
love beauty and nature, all of whom went to live right at the
Designs themselves.  Together they wanted to see every design that
was there.

   Some wrote ledger about just triangles.  Others described the
circles.  Others concentrated on red colored stones--and they
happened to be the first to see designs springing from outside the
carpet.  They, and some others, saw designs everywhere they went.

   "How blind we have been," they said.

   The movement grew and grew and grew.  And all who could see the
designs knew that they had to have been put there by a Great Force.
"Nothing but a Great Force," said the philosophers, "could create
this immense beauty!"

   "Yes," said the world, "nothing but a god could create such
magnificent order.  Nothing but a God."

   And that was the day that God was born.  And ever since then,
all men have known Him for His infinite power and all men have
loved Him for His infinite wisdom.


-----


Exerpted from a treatise concerning The Nature of Gods and The
Eristesque Movement, to be found in the SUMMA UNIVERSALIA, the
Holy Work of MALACLYPSE (THE YOUNGER), K.C., Omniscient Polyfather
of Virginity-in-gold, and High Priest of The Heretic Fringe and
Protestant Persuasion of the ERISIAN MOVEMENT of the DISCORDIAN
SOCIETY ===== Hail Eris

http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/13.html (http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/13.html)
http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/14.html (http://appendix.23ae.com/pd1/14.html)

Because the part about the Summa Universalia says the name is mentioned. it's not only mentioned but quoted from.

Then go edit the Wikipedia article and cite your sources. Posting it here does nothing.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on January 16, 2009, 04:22:04 PM
Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.

:lulz:
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 16, 2009, 04:43:21 PM
 :lulz: Welcome to the cesspool of Discordianism.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cramulus on January 16, 2009, 04:47:23 PM
hi shii! :wave:

So nice of you to check in! We're always looking for other "Discordians" on the Intarwebs that don't seem to be total rutabagas (http://www.discordian.com/oldsite/rutabaga.html).

I spent a good portion of last night reading your Shii Knows site, and I really like what you have to say. I think you'll resonate with some of the energy we have here - in particular check out this magazine thing we're doing, Intermittens -- issue 2 is themed "The Elements of New Discordia", which I think you'd dig quite a bit - http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Intermittens

Anyway, welcome to PD... here's a brief tour:

-Apple Talk is the fluff forum
-Operation Mindfuck is for pranks and mindfucks, as well as a lot of internet trolling or safari-ing (the opposite of destructive trolling)
-Or Kill Me is for rants and sermons
-Think For Yourself Shmuck started off as the Black Iron Prison forum (http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Main_Page), but has expanded to be about any new projects, new ideas, or new energy.

if you stick around, we'd love to hear your thoughts on some of this stuff
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Messier Undertree on January 16, 2009, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
:x Hi everyone.

Hey guy. :lol:

I'm not sure if you do IRC much anymore, but you should get on PD's IRC channel sometime. It's at #discord on irc.maddshark.com.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: This is great!

Lots of people agree, this is not a nice place at all.

Welcome to Thunderdome, Shii. :)
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 16, 2009, 03:46:50 PM


Then go edit the Wikipedia article and cite your sources. Posting it here does nothing.
I was just thinking that I've seen accusations of sock puppetry surrounding Discordianism and that someone joining up to edit one post about an already disputed article might arouse suspicion towards the edit.

But what do I know?
I like Bubble Boy.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: LMNO on January 16, 2009, 06:01:25 PM
Hi Shii,


Don't say we didn't warn you.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
QuoteDear anonymous complainant,

Why, how shameful! How positively uncouth! Does this website aim to
destroy the sanctity and maturity of the Internet entirely? You have
my word that I shall do my utmost to avoid any Internet forum which is
rumored to be full of trolls, or even contain a single troll.

I am yours, sir, changing my mind about websites without any
justification whatsoever,
Shii

:x Hi everyone.

The worst thing is how the administration take such nasty comments, break them up into short, pithy sentences and them put them into the newsfeed in order to mock such criticisms.

8)
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 08:52:29 PM
The testimonials are my FAVORITE.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 16, 2009, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 16, 2009, 03:46:50 PM


Then go edit the Wikipedia article and cite your sources. Posting it here does nothing.
I was just thinking that I've seen accusations of sock puppetry surrounding Discordianism and that someone joining up to edit one post about an already disputed article might arouse suspicion towards the edit.

But what do I know?
I like Bubble Boy.

Yeah, but posting it here STILL DOES NOTHING.

And if your citation is valid, so what if one person signing up to make one edit arouses suspicion? So they'll check your source. I think they'd do that with anyone who made an edit, small or large.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Triple Zero on January 16, 2009, 09:00:31 PM
Quote from: Malachite on January 16, 2009, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: Shii on January 16, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
:x Hi everyone.

Hey guy. :lol:

I'm not sure if you do IRC much anymore, but you should get on PD's IRC channel sometime. It's at #discord on irc.maddshark.com.

you can go straight to IRC here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/irc

it's SUPER FUN:

(2009-01-16 19:22:28) [000]: anyway, ask me why I think shii has a very mushroomy take on everything
(2009-01-16 19:22:37) Lysergic: why do you think that, 000?
(2009-01-16 19:22:43) [000]: because it's the shii take
(2009-01-16 19:22:48) Lysergic: ...
(2009-01-16 19:22:49) ENKI-][: lol :<
(2009-01-16 19:22:54) Lysergic: I love you 000
(2009-01-16 19:23:01) Cramulus: baaaaaaaaaa 000!
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Shii on January 16, 2009, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 16, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
The worst thing is how the administration take such nasty comments, break them up into short, pithy sentences and them put them into the newsfeed in order to mock such criticisms.

8)
I recommend this quote for the newsfeed (it came from the follow-up):

"I could go so far as to say they simply use Discordianism as a mechanism for causing havoc, and an excuse for mischief. "

P.S. I'll get on IRC soon...
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 16, 2009, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: Fuquad on January 16, 2009, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 16, 2009, 03:46:50 PM


Then go edit the Wikipedia article and cite your sources. Posting it here does nothing.
I was just thinking that I've seen accusations of sock puppetry surrounding Discordianism and that someone joining up to edit one post about an already disputed article might arouse suspicion towards the edit.

But what do I know?
I like Bubble Boy.

Yeah, but posting it here STILL DOES NOTHING.

And if your citation is valid, so what if one person signing up to make one edit arouses suspicion? So they'll check your source. I think they'd do that with anyone who made an edit, small or large.
I guess I'm joining wiki.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cain on January 16, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
Thats a good one, very quotable.  I like it.

I should probably throw up our MysticWicks endorsements as well....
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Subtract Eight! on January 17, 2009, 01:50:16 AM
QuoteDear Shii,
I'd like to warn you that your recent interest in the forums located at the Principia Discordia website whilst understandable due to your interest in discordianism would be a very unwise move if you actually consider signing up and becoming active there.

Why is this? You might be asking yourself. Let's just say a man's reputation may be based upon the comany he keeps, and company such as the Discordians who frequent and even administrate that forum would drag your reputation lower the most horrid dregs of society.

They are relentless trolls, heartless egotists with absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves. They frequently troll forums and websites, release personal information about people, stalk and harras others.

Just take a look at the Operation Mindfuck section of the website if you don't believe me.

So I shall repeat myself, I would highly suggest that you steer clear of this website at all costs and disconnect yourself from all affiliation with those involved.

Take care Shii,
whattt ive been here over 3 years... i didnt even know you guys were like that
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: East Coast Hustle on January 17, 2009, 04:14:03 AM
Hi Shii. Welcome to our sordid little den of iniquity. Anyone who think Uncle BadTouch is a total douchebag starts off with points in my book.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Cramulus on March 09, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/discordman/forumspecific/bump_miloflorence523.jpg)

I went back today to re-read Shii's paragraph  "Discordia is not fruitbat neo-paganism"
and found a pleasant surprise.

He's updated http://shii.org/knows/Discordianism,
added a link to StMae's rutabaga page (http://www.discordian.com/oldsite/rutabaga.html) under the heading "Discordianism is not the Penguin of Doom (http://shii.org/knows/Penguin_of_Doom)"
and added this line to conclude his battle with Uncle BadTouch:

"Since then I have happily learned of the existence of a forum at http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/ where the Gospel is treated properly, torn up and abused, etc. "

:lulz:
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: Idiot on March 14, 2009, 11:51:08 AM
Generally it's regarded that anything which contradicts Wikipedia is completely wrong.
Title: Re: More on Wikipedia vs Discordia, and introducing a new character
Post by: drjon on March 30, 2009, 10:11:38 AM
Irony upon irony, that Fundamentalist Discordian.

He's still a spag, though (just as much as the object of his distraction), and worse, he's a willfully ignorant spag.

But a willfully ignorant spag with potential ;}P>

(Comment Unrelated: No-one speaks for me, but me.)