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Title: 2012
Post by: Cramulus on January 25, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
(http://www.ancientx.com/nm/articlefiles/122-doomsday2012.jpg)

The world will end in 2012.





I know what you're thinking. You're thinking about the lack of rational evidence for any eschatology surrounding the year 2012. You're thinking about the hysterical misinterpretations of the mayan calendar, which doesn't actually predict the "end" of anything. You're thinking about Terrence McKenna's obsession with the end of novelty, and how he made his predictions based (in part) on the i ching, not math or science. You're going to remind me that Kurzweil's predictions about the singularity won't come to fruition until at least 2030. You want to tell me all the reasons that I'm wrong. And honestly, you'd probably be right.

But listen---


-- which of these two beliefs is more exciting?

We have heard all sorts of people, when confronted with evidence that their beliefs aren't really grounded, retort with some variation of "Beliefs don't have to be rational!"

Well CHEERS to that! The way I see it, in December of 2012, you can either choose to face the End of Times with a calm demeanor or a fucking crazy one. When I think about it that way, the choice is obvious. I'd much rather be worked up to a froth, handing out pamphlets, shouting at churches, and wearing a giant sandwich board that says DUMB. I want to grow a beard and smoke DMT like it's my ticket to Heaven's Gate. I want to be thrown out of establishments. I want to wheel a gong on top of a building and ring it over and over again, shouting "YOUR TIME HAS COME, HUMANITY. THIS IS THE DEATH GONG, AND IT GONGS FOR THEE."

Remember the excitement that preceeded the Y2K bug? I was out there on Dec 31st, putting up posters, handing out pamphlets, shouting at traffic. Remember the nail-biting anticipation, as the ball descended, that in mere moments the power would go out and the streets would be filled with the cacophony of the End Times? And then the ball dropped, the clocks turned over, and everybody breathed a sigh of relief. Or in my case a sigh of dissapointment. I want another shot!

On 6/6/06 I assembled a bunch of assholes on the beach to chant pages from the necronomicon. The intent was to awaken mighty Cthulhu, who will drive humanity from this planet like rats off a sinking ship. The way I see it, even if it only had a 0.0001% change of ending the world, that's a bigger chance of ending the world than any other action I've ever taken. It doesn't matter that it didn't work, at least I was trying. I want another shot!

Why believe in the apocalypse?

one word, people:



HOPE.





2012 or bust.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2009, 06:34:53 PM
Problem is, I've been told that the end is coming for 30+ years, and the retard evangelicals are ALWAYS WRONG and it PISSES ME OFF TO NO FUCKING END.

I just can't get excited about armageddon, anymore.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: AFK on January 25, 2009, 06:42:56 PM
Imma gonna wait to see who throws in for the election before I get too wound up either way, if it's a Palin/Robertson ticket, hell yeah, bring on the death and destruction!!!
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2009, 08:28:04 PM
In 2012 the world will end and a new world will begin. The new world will look just like the old one. The end.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cain on January 25, 2009, 09:18:26 PM
I like the Daniel Pinchbeck approach.  So many people believe something will happen, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  All it will take is the right person, at the right place, with the right message and that potential discharges into something real.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2009, 11:29:51 PM
I think 2000 had more superstitious crazies attached to it, and nothing happened then.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cramulus on January 26, 2009, 12:45:40 AM
let me clarify:
I don't really think the world is going to end in 2012
but I want to encourage everybody to carry on all batshit bonanza as if actually is
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Mangrove on January 26, 2009, 01:29:19 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 26, 2009, 12:45:40 AM
let me clarify:
I don't really think the world is going to end in 2012
but I want to encourage everybody to carry on all batshit bonanza as if actually is...


...because I work in publishing and this 2012 crap is starting to make best-seller lists.


Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Triple Zero on January 27, 2009, 07:33:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2009, 06:34:53 PM
I just can't get excited about armageddon, anymore.

holy shit, Roger are you allright? :)

anyway, I think it was Cain who mentioned this idea first (not entirely sure though), but I think it's a good one. With all the people believing in 2012, there's bound to be a fucking awesome party at that big maya temple thing in south-america on December 21st. If I happen to be filthy rich and/or in the general neighbourhood, I intend to be there! :)
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2009, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: Triple "Dave" Zero on January 27, 2009, 07:33:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2009, 06:34:53 PM
I just can't get excited about armageddon, anymore.

holy shit, Roger are you allright? :)

anyway, I think it was Cain who mentioned this idea first (not entirely sure though), but I think it's a good one. With all the people believing in 2012, there's bound to be a fucking awesome party at that big maya temple thing in south-america on December 21st. If I happen to be filthy rich and/or in the general neighbourhood, I intend to be there! :)

Balls.  The USA is full of religious freaks, and nobody did SHIT on 12/31/99.

Title: Re: 2012
Post by: hooplala on January 29, 2009, 05:53:35 PM
I murdered Conrad Bain on that date, doesn't that count for ANYTHING anymore??
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2009, 05:57:11 PM
Quote from: BAWHEED on January 29, 2009, 05:53:35 PM
I murdered Conrad Bain on that date, doesn't that count for ANYTHING anymore??

Yeah, but did you do it thinking that the world ended the next day?

And did you wear his skin like a dress, and do the Safety Dance in front of horrified CBC cameramen?

No, Hoops, we have to be SERIOUS about apocalypse. 
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Triple Zero on January 29, 2009, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2009, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: Triple "Dave" Zero on January 27, 2009, 07:33:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 25, 2009, 06:34:53 PM
I just can't get excited about armageddon, anymore.

holy shit, Roger are you allright? :)

anyway, I think it was Cain who mentioned this idea first (not entirely sure though), but I think it's a good one. With all the people believing in 2012, there's bound to be a fucking awesome party at that big maya temple thing in south-america on December 21st. If I happen to be filthy rich and/or in the general neighbourhood, I intend to be there! :)

Balls.  The USA is full of religious freaks, and nobody did SHIT on 12/31/99.

Oh, there were loads of ZOMG the WORLD is GONNA END and PLANES will fall FROM THE SKY parties over here that night.

also I kind of expect the psychedelic hippie techno/trance/dub scene to do something in 2012, they're good at throwing parties. I'm just assuming that somebody will have the presence of mind to use some Maya temple as the location. Or anything looking suitable Maya-templish, basically. I'm not picky, when it comes to a good party.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
The problem here is that you're equating "the psychedelic hippie techno/trance/dub scene" with "a good party".
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: the last yatto on January 29, 2009, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 25, 2009, 11:29:51 PM
I think 2000 had more superstitious crazies attached to it, and nothing happened then.
delayed one year reaction? :lulz:
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cramulus on January 29, 2009, 09:06:07 PM
if we had the gumption to THROW that party, I bet we could make a fucking KILLING.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Triple Zero on January 29, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
The problem here is that you're equating "the psychedelic hippie techno/trance/dub scene" with "a good party".

if you don't hate the music, it is.

at least, the ones i've been to.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 29, 2009, 09:31:16 PM
Quote from: Triple "Dave" Zero on January 29, 2009, 08:28:04 PM

also I kind of expect the psychedelic hippie techno/trance/dub scene to do something in 2012, they're good at throwing parties.

No, they're not.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 03, 2009, 07:17:38 AM
All I know in regard to the world potentially ending in 2012 is that I sure as Hell intend to be at 15X-Day :lulz: in Brushwood....
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2009, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: NARF! on January 29, 2009, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 25, 2009, 11:29:51 PM
I think 2000 had more superstitious crazies attached to it, and nothing happened then.
delayed one year reaction? :lulz:

I won't even begin to delve into the reasons why this comment highlights your intolerable stupidity. It works on so many levels.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 03, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: Triple "Dave" Zero on January 29, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
The problem here is that you're equating "the psychedelic hippie techno/trance/dub scene" with "a good party".

if you don't hate the music, it is.

at least, the ones i've been to.

I dunno, even at Burning Man I tried to go to some of the clubs and my gut reaction was "GET ME OUT BEFORE I LIGHT IT ON FIRE".

The music, collectively, was kind of nice as a loud background throb, but up close and personal I wanted to make it die.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 03, 2009, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 25, 2009, 09:18:26 PM
I like the Daniel Pinchbeck approach.  So many people believe something will happen, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  All it will take is the right person, at the right place, with the right message and that potential discharges into something real.

Having just read his new book... I find his model very interesting, but the conclusion leads me to think he may be drinking a bit too much of the ol' Yage.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: trippinprincezz13 on February 05, 2009, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: The Mormons Will Begin Arriving By Bus on February 03, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: Triple "Dave" Zero on January 29, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
The problem here is that you're equating "the psychedelic hippie techno/trance/dub scene" with "a good party".

if you don't hate the music, it is.

at least, the ones i've been to.

I dunno, even at Burning Man I tried to go to some of the clubs and my gut reaction was "GET ME OUT BEFORE I LIGHT IT ON FIRE".

The music, collectively, was kind of nice as a loud background throb, but up close and personal I wanted to make it die.

It depends. I'm not familiar with a lot of techno, etc. but getting into it somewhat. The HAPPY HAPPY SPARKLE DANCE stuff is really not for me, and for the most part annoys me immensely.

Drum and bass, though, I like. The harder the better. And Omar Santana's KILL KILL ANGRY SEX HATE music makes me happy.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on February 09, 2009, 03:47:12 PM
I could really get onto this 2012 thing. Especially if most of the information and silliness we spread is totally self-contradictory. The best thing to cause an apocalypse is to have lots of various groups gunning for one at precisely the same time and fundamentally at odds with each other about how and why it will happen.

For instance, you can spread the Maya take, the McKenna take, the Sitchin take, and various blatant misinterpretations and bastard intermarriages thereof. I personally like the idea that the Reptoids that seeded life on earth live on the planet(oid) Eris, which will (nearly) hit earth on December 23, 2012, and that the orbit of Eris was aligned this way in order to coincide with the infinite expansion of novelty on earth, which is tantamount to a localized Omega Point, which the Reptoids plan to use because they wish to {harvest,save} our {souls,energy,information processing capability,gold} in order to save their {race,atmosphere,dying king,air conditioning system}.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 07, 2009, 07:18:29 PM
I am highly incredulous as to the idea that the world will end in 2012, but I have to admit that some of the signs are there...possibly....
After all, The Book of the SubGenius predicts that the end of the world will be prefigured by an "econo-cataclysm". Additionally, the fact that the new president is so charismatic and personable, and that everybody treats him as if he was the messiah raises the possibility that he might be the Anti-Christ.

So Here's my prediction:

IF the world is going to end in 2012

THEN we will see more and clearer signs of the apocolypse before then

Specifically, I believe that, if the world is destined to end in 2012, then the sign to look for is that the Gulf Stream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_stream) will disappear before the end of 2009, and this time it won't come back (there have been documented cases where the Gulf Stream has disappeared, but so far it has never been disrupted for more than a little bit over a week). This will prevent the Gulf Stream's usual effects on climate, and Without the heat that is usually conveyed there by the Gluf Stream, northern Europe will be plunged into the "Fimbulwinter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fimbulwinter)" predicted to prefigure the world's end by ancient Norse mythology.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 07, 2009, 10:19:10 PM
Well, certain of my ancestors, who according to legend are actually descendants of the ancient Mayans (having fled to the north after a large-scale butchering of the engineers and priests) predict that this, which is the fourth world, will end with massive earthquake and volcano activity, heralding the start of the fifth and final world. This is to take place sometime soon I think, but I mean, without a calendar it's hard to say. I can't remember how many generations it was supposed to be.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Tempest Virago on March 07, 2009, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 29, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 29, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
The problem here is that you're equating "the psychedelic hippie techno/trance/dub scene" with "a good party".

if you don't hate the music, it is.

at least, the ones i've been to.

Yeah, but then they start spinning glowsticks and poi and it's all downhill from there.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cain on March 07, 2009, 11:00:10 PM
By the point the music actually starts, half the partygoers will have been abducted by 'elves' or be tasting the sound of the music anyway.

Its amazing how much better drugs can make a shitty playlist.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on March 08, 2009, 12:16:07 AM
Quote from: Broken AI on March 07, 2009, 11:36:46 PM
QuoteFor instance, you can spread the Maya take, the McKenna take, the Sitchin take, and various blatant misinterpretations and bastard intermarriages thereof. I personally like the idea that the Reptoids that seeded life on earth live on the planet(oid) Eris, which will (nearly) hit earth on December 23, 2012, and that the orbit of Eris was aligned this way in order to coincide with the infinite expansion of novelty on earth, which is tantamount to a localized Omega Point, which the Reptoids plan to use because they wish to {harvest,save} our {souls,energy,information processing capability,gold} in order to save their {race,atmosphere,dying king,air conditioning system}.

OMG HAX!

YOU STOLE MY MIND!

:lulz:



Actually, I just looked into the future at this post and copied the bit you quoted from me to insert into my original post. It beats having to think up all this crazy shit myself.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on March 08, 2009, 01:21:27 AM
Are there any plans to convene at the Brunswick Shrine (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/60.php) on 2012? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cramulus on March 08, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
where is that, exactly? California? I'll totally go if it's in driving distance, but I suspect it's not. (I'm in NY)
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Aufenthatt on March 08, 2009, 06:52:04 PM
Quote from: Principia Discordia  on March 08, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
In the Los Angeles suburb of Whittier there lives a bowling alley, and within this very place, in the Year of Our Lady of Discord 3125 (1959*), Eris revealed Herself to The Golden Apple Corps for the first time.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Torodung on March 09, 2009, 05:57:08 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 25, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
(http://www.ancientx.com/nm/articlefiles/122-doomsday2012.jpg)

The world will end in 2012.

Why believe in the apocalypse?

one word, people:

HOPE.


2012 or bust.

One word Cramulus: Lithium.

Oh and  :mittens:
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 13, 2009, 05:03:52 PM
personally I'm quite pleased to see apocalypse predictions once again getting media coverage. a few decades ago it was a fairly regular thing, then there was a huge dry spell until 2000 (by the way to whoever said nothing happened, you're wrong. it just wasn't anything out in public view where it would incite mobs of people to go looting) (and seriously I want to know who's responsible for deciding to ignore apocalypse predictions in the first place, they suck) then nothing until 2012 popped onto the scene.

I'm quite enjoying it.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2009, 06:12:45 AM
Quote from: potato on March 13, 2009, 05:03:52 PM
personally I'm quite pleased to see apocalypse predictions once again getting media coverage. a few decades ago it was a fairly regular thing, then there was a huge dry spell until 2000 (by the way to whoever said nothing happened, you're wrong. it just wasn't anything out in public view where it would incite mobs of people to go looting) (and seriously I want to know who's responsible for deciding to ignore apocalypse predictions in the first place, they suck) then nothing until 2012 popped onto the scene.

I'm quite enjoying it.

I used to.  Then the whole 2000 thing (God likes big, round numbers) turned into 2001 ("There was no zero year"), then 2004 (Gregorian vs Julian calendar) then 2005 (2004 plus the no zero year thing) by which point even the evangelical Christians were getting sick and tired of it.

Now I'm expected to believe that a baroque culture which didn't invent the wheel or make any advances in agriculture, and which threw their sacrificial virgins into their drinking water, have predicted the end of the world because their calendar maker quit at 2012 (for those of meso-American descent, this is a slam at a baroque culture, not a race of people, kthx).

Frankly, I'm beginning to become a little discouraged.  Where is my apocalypse?  Where are the great seven-headed beasties?  I'd settle for a meteor right about now, or maybe some alien face-huggers.

Goddammit.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cain on March 14, 2009, 01:36:16 PM
If they had predicted 1520 as an apocalypse, I might have been more impressed.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cramulus on March 14, 2009, 02:48:17 PM
the mayans never predicted that it would be the End
crazy pattern-finding humans made that connection

from http://shii.org/knows/2012

QuoteDecember 21, 2012 is not a "prophecy of the end times" someone has dredged up from an old history textbook. The Mayan calendar does not end on any particular date, and they were not "building up" to 2012 any more than a Puritan "gets ready" for next Sunday; it is a natural part of their calendar. There are dates on surviving Mayan inscriptions placing legends in 400,000,000 BCE (Thompson 1956:23). The calendar survives past 2012 and continues into the indefinite future.

I really hope that in three years I have the cash to attend a 2012 party at the foot of some mayan pyramid
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Urraco on March 14, 2009, 03:16:13 PM
Hm. Well the world isn't going to end itself, frankly. That's the major problem with these Armageddon theories is that we expect something to do all the work for us.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Rococo Modem Basilisk on March 14, 2009, 04:35:41 PM
It's not the end of the world, it's the end of the FIFTH world. Gets wiped out by fire, everybody survives, we all go to another place that will be wiped out by something else in a couple thousand years.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Urraco on March 14, 2009, 04:41:06 PM
So this whole thing is just a metaphor for the passing of the old year to the new one?

What are we worried about then?
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 15, 2009, 12:30:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2009, 06:12:45 AM
I used to.  Then the whole 2000 thing (God likes big, round numbers) turned into 2001 ("There was no zero year"), then 2004 (Gregorian vs Julian calendar) then 2005 (2004 plus the no zero year thing) by which point even the evangelical Christians were getting sick and tired of it.
sadly, I missed those. otherwise I would not have made such a sweeping generalization about our lack of apocalyptic hype.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Thurnez Isa on March 15, 2009, 05:35:54 AM
hey apparently now Nostradamus predicted the 2012
:lulz:

http://nostradamus2012.com/
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2009, 06:55:42 AM
Quote from: potato on March 15, 2009, 12:30:53 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2009, 06:12:45 AM
I used to.  Then the whole 2000 thing (God likes big, round numbers) turned into 2001 ("There was no zero year"), then 2004 (Gregorian vs Julian calendar) then 2005 (2004 plus the no zero year thing) by which point even the evangelical Christians were getting sick and tired of it.
sadly, I missed those. otherwise I would not have made such a sweeping generalization about our lack of apocalyptic hype.

I am surrounded by Calvinists.  They don't let you miss a thing.  :tgrr:
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 16, 2009, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2009, 06:55:42 AM
I am surrounded by Calvinists.  They don't let you miss a thing.  :tgrr:
funnily enough, I still had one foot in the cult through 2006, but the cult's only concern was the change from 99 to 00. all possible mayhem was anticipated because of antiquated computers floating in space and in the server rooms of government offices around the globe, but they had no sense of fun when it came to numerological apocalypse.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2009, 06:55:42 AM
I am surrounded by Calvinists.  They don't let you miss a thing.  :tgrr:
funnily enough, I still had one foot in the cult through 2006, but the cult's only concern was the change from 99 to 00. all possible mayhem was anticipated because of antiquated computers floating in space and in the server rooms of government offices around the globe, but they had no sense of fun when it came to numerological apocalypse.

Stop teasing us goddamnit, I demand anecdotes. NAOW!!! :argh!:
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 16, 2009, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2009, 06:55:42 AM
I am surrounded by Calvinists.  They don't let you miss a thing.  :tgrr:
funnily enough, I still had one foot in the cult through 2006, but the cult's only concern was the change from 99 to 00. all possible mayhem was anticipated because of antiquated computers floating in space and in the server rooms of government offices around the globe, but they had no sense of fun when it came to numerological apocalypse.

Stop teasing us goddamnit, I demand anecdotes. NAOW!!! :argh!:
:lulz: I have never before felt like my association with a toxic cult has given me an air of mystique.

it's a bit surreal.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 06:11:22 PM
and now you're involved another toxic cult! When will this end, potato?

this is just a necessary background check. Sort of like asking your partner who else she's slept with. We just want to know what cult goodies you bring to the table.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2009, 06:55:42 AM
I am surrounded by Calvinists.  They don't let you miss a thing.  :tgrr:
funnily enough, I still had one foot in the cult through 2006, but the cult's only concern was the change from 99 to 00. all possible mayhem was anticipated because of antiquated computers floating in space and in the server rooms of government offices around the globe, but they had no sense of fun when it came to numerological apocalypse.

Stop teasing us goddamnit, I demand anecdotes. NAOW!!! :argh!:
:lulz: I have never before felt like my association with a toxic cult has given me an air of mystique.

it's a bit surreal.

FTR: Acceptable anecdotes rarely, if evar, begin with the words "I have never before"

Stop trying to wriggle off the fucking hook :argh!:
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 16, 2009, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2009, 06:55:42 AM
I am surrounded by Calvinists.  They don't let you miss a thing.  :tgrr:
funnily enough, I still had one foot in the cult through 2006, but the cult's only concern was the change from 99 to 00. all possible mayhem was anticipated because of antiquated computers floating in space and in the server rooms of government offices around the globe, but they had no sense of fun when it came to numerological apocalypse.

Stop teasing us goddamnit, I demand anecdotes. NAOW!!! :argh!:
:lulz: I have never before felt like my association with a toxic cult has given me an air of mystique.

it's a bit surreal.

FTR: Acceptable anecdotes rarely, if evar, begin with the words "I have never before"

Stop trying to wriggle off the fucking hook :argh!:
sorry, my caginess springs mostly from the fact that I'm pretty sure anecdotes will drive people to run away screaming. I mean, being in a cult was weird, and being a former cult member also feels weird. some of the things I've said to people about cult life make them uncomfortable, or they think I'm making it up.

the shit's just fucking weird.

plus, it always feels more comfortable when the weirdness is shared in context with other weirdness, like apocalyptic numerology.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 06:29:59 PM
Trust me, I'm not going to run away screaming - True Story (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=10795.msg336731#msg336731)

I live for weird
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 06:58:08 PM
I'd be curious to hear about your experiences too. I don't think people will flip out unless you were a kiddie fiddler or something. We've got a number of people here who have either escaped from religious mind control schemes or have loved ones that are still entrenched.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:51:06 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 06:58:08 PM
I'd be curious to hear about your experiences too. I don't think people will flip out unless you were a kiddie fiddler or something. We've got a number of people here who have either escaped from religious mind control schemes or have loved ones that are still entrenched.

And then there's those that are studying to start our own cult.  :)

Wait.  That didn't help, did it?  :(
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 16, 2009, 11:53:43 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 06:29:59 PM
Trust me, I'm not going to run away screaming - True Story (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=10795.msg336731#msg336731)

I live for weird
thank you for that.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 16, 2009, 11:57:42 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 06:58:08 PM
I'd be curious to hear about your experiences too. I don't think people will flip out unless you were a kiddie fiddler or something. We've got a number of people here who have either escaped from religious mind control schemes or have loved ones that are still entrenched.
I've thought about writing some of it down. perhaps I'll get brave enough. I don't post things out there too much because I don't need certain people connecting dots to me IRL and it does seem freaky, but I'm past the severe paranoia period of recovery  :lulz:
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: potato on March 16, 2009, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:51:06 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 06:58:08 PM
I'd be curious to hear about your experiences too. I don't think people will flip out unless you were a kiddie fiddler or something. We've got a number of people here who have either escaped from religious mind control schemes or have loved ones that are still entrenched.

And then there's those that are studying to start our own cult.  :)

Wait.  That didn't help, did it?  :(
I will become a voice of dissent!!! I will invent heresies!!!
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 17, 2009, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 16, 2009, 11:51:06 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on March 16, 2009, 06:58:08 PM
I'd be curious to hear about your experiences too. I don't think people will flip out unless you were a kiddie fiddler or something. We've got a number of people here who have either escaped from religious mind control schemes or have loved ones that are still entrenched.

And then there's those that are studying to start our own cult.  :)

Wait.  That didn't help, did it?  :(
I will become a voice of dissent!!! I will invent heresies!!!

Why not?  I did:

http://www.poee.co.uk/boards/index.php?topic=347.0
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Tempest Virago on March 17, 2009, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 16, 2009, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: potato on March 16, 2009, 05:28:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 15, 2009, 06:55:42 AM
I am surrounded by Calvinists.  They don't let you miss a thing.  :tgrr:
funnily enough, I still had one foot in the cult through 2006, but the cult's only concern was the change from 99 to 00. all possible mayhem was anticipated because of antiquated computers floating in space and in the server rooms of government offices around the globe, but they had no sense of fun when it came to numerological apocalypse.

Stop teasing us goddamnit, I demand anecdotes. NAOW!!! :argh!:
:lulz: I have never before felt like my association with a toxic cult has given me an air of mystique.

it's a bit surreal.

FTR: Acceptable anecdotes rarely, if evar, begin with the words "I have never before"

Stop trying to wriggle off the fucking hook :argh!:
sorry, my caginess springs mostly from the fact that I'm pretty sure anecdotes will drive people to run away screaming. I mean, being in a cult was weird, and being a former cult member also feels weird. some of the things I've said to people about cult life make them uncomfortable, or they think I'm making it up.

the shit's just fucking weird.

plus, it always feels more comfortable when the weirdness is shared in context with other weirdness, like apocalyptic numerology.

I would definitely not be freaked out; my ex-boyfriend was raised in a cult until he was 18.
Title: Re: 2012
Post by: Triple Zero on March 18, 2009, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on March 15, 2009, 05:35:54 AM
hey apparently now Nostradamus predicted the 2012
:lulz:

http://nostradamus2012.com/

he does look good in those green pants, btw.