Blarg!
::stunned silence::
::tears::
::then claps::
HOOO-RAAAH!
Way to go, Rev!
Whoa.
Roger, you have a gift.
You've outdone yourself this time.
Here here, reverened!
or is it hear hear?Someone should get Plaidie to assasinate grammar..She is so darn quick!
Quote from: Anonymousor is it hear hear?Someone should get Plaidie to assasinate grammar..She is so darn quick!
I thought it was heir heir.
In any case, this is brilliant.
PS: You told me you were going to bed, Bella.
No cookies for you tomorrow.
Quote from: illusionQuote from: Anonymousor is it hear hear?Someone should get Plaidie to assasinate grammar..She is so darn quick!
I thought it was heir heir.
In any case, this is brilliant.
PS: You told me you were going to bed, Bella.
No cookies for you tomorrow.
Yes, mum. :lol:
Bella? Go to bed? But she wants to stay up and play.
Quote from: St. Hugh, KSCBella? Go to bed? But she wants to stay up and play.
That's right, I do want to.
And she has no business spying on me, anyway.
Makes me cranky :wink:
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomWhoa.
Roger, you have a gift.
You've outdone yourself this time.
<blush>
Da muse grabbed me.
Or I ate too many habeneros while watching the Nightline special.
Or kill me.
Or a combo of all three.
Either way, Bella's right.
Follow up:
http://www.comcast.net/News/DOMESTIC//XML/1152_Cabinet/11037619-3d01-4f08-9d31-d03a89f786ef.html
Rumsfeld: Prisoner Abuse 'Un-American'
43 minutes ago
By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday condemned the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers as "totally unacceptable and un-American" and said the Pentagon would take all steps necessary to bring those responsible to justice.
"We're taking and will continue to take whatever steps are necessary to hold accountable those that may have violated the code of military conduct and betrayed the trust placed in them by the American people," Rumsfeld told a news conference.
Gee, Rummy, ya should have thought about that before YOU engaged in some rather un-American shit, eh? Didn't Jefferson forbid conquest as un-American? Why, yes, I think he did.
And "betrayed the trust placed in them by the American people"? Pot/Kettle/Black. STFU, Donald...nobody wants to hear your bullshit.
Meanwhile, an attorney for a military police officer being investigated in the abuse probe, said on NBC's "Today" show that the photographs of the Iraq prisoners that have inspired widespread revulsion "were obviously staged" in order to manipulate the prisoners into cooperating with intelligence officials. "They were part of the psychological manipulation of the prisoners being interrogated," said Guy Womack, attorney for Charles A. Graner, Jr., a Greene County, Pa. corrections officer who was activated to the military in March 2003 and served at Abu Ghraib.
"It was being controlled and devised by the military intelligence community and other governmental agencies, including the CIA," Womack said. The soldiers, he said, were simply "following orders."
So was Adolf Eichmann, you simpering twit. No excuse.
The most disgusting thing is that the military environment by its very nature, encourages people who will do that sort of thing voluntarily, to sign up to it. Reinforces the same type of mental patterns through hazing and the masonic lodge mentality, and runs anyone who stands up against all this shit through the wringer.
You want to talk about getting to those responsible for this? You've got to kick the shit out of about 10,000 people then, maybe more.
Quote from: St. Trollax, ODDThe most disgusting thing is that the military environment by its very nature, encourages people who will do that sort of thing voluntarily, to sign up to it. Reinforces the same type of mental patterns through hazing and the masonic lodge mentality, and runs anyone who stands up against all this shit through the wringer.
You want to talk about getting to those responsible for this? You've got to kick the shit out of about 10,000 people then, maybe more.
Not true. I was in the infantry for 10 years, and this type of crap would NEVER have been tolerated.
This is a BREAKDOWN in discipline, not a RESULT of discipline.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Not true. I was in the infantry for 10 years, and this type of crap would NEVER have been tolerated.
This is a BREAKDOWN in discipline, not a RESULT of discipline.
for some reason that conjours up this image...
(http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Balestar/Bob_Soldier.jpg)
Great image, Hotsuma. 8)
I gotta agree with Roger on this one.
My brother was in the marine corps for a long time and he's utterly disgusted about these violations. He called the other day and went off
at length about the lack of discipline and respect for the Geneva Convention, etc.
Quote from: HotsumaQuote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Not true. I was in the infantry for 10 years, and this type of crap would NEVER have been tolerated.
This is a BREAKDOWN in discipline, not a RESULT of discipline.
for some reason that conjours up this image...
(http://img31.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Balestar/Bob_Soldier.jpg)
DAMN! I
knew that would come back to haunt me...
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomGreat image, Hotsuma. 8)
I gotta agree with Roger on this one.
My brother was in the marine corps for a long time and he's utterly disgusted about these violations. He called the other day and went off
at length about the lack of discipline and respect for the Geneva Convention, etc.
Has it changed his mind about Bush and the war?
A bit, yes, it has.
Not completely, mind you, but he's much less cabbage-like at the moment.
Quote from: BellaA bit, yes, it has.
Not completely, mind you, but he's much less cabbage-like at the moment.
Well, at least he's got his eyes open.
Another thing to bring up...naw...I need to say this right.
SERMON TIME.
I'll post a new one in about 1/2 hour or so.
didn't you end your sermons?
Quote from: Hotsumadidn't you end your sermons?
Yeah. But I'm coming out of retirement for 3 reasons:
1. Trollax asked me to.
2. Guido asked me to.
3. Thing have gotten far, far worse than even *I* predicted. Who woulda thunk that *I* was an
optimist?
Roger's Sermons: the Michael Jordan of the "or kill me forum"
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerSERMON TIME.
Sweet!
Quote from: Guido FinucciQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerSERMON TIME.
Sweet!
Hurray!
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDThe most disgusting thing is that the military environment by its very nature, encourages people who will do that sort of thing voluntarily, to sign up to it. Reinforces the same type of mental patterns through hazing and the masonic lodge mentality, and runs anyone who stands up against all this shit through the wringer.
You want to talk about getting to those responsible for this? You've got to kick the shit out of about 10,000 people then, maybe more.
Not true. I was in the infantry for 10 years, and this type of crap would NEVER have been tolerated.
This is a BREAKDOWN in discipline, not a RESULT of discipline.
Ok I stand corrected. You'll have to forgive me, I think I left my maddison avenue head on when I left the house this morning. Usually I'm careful to hold the thought that the news is news only because it's bad.
That was me, but the forum's kicked me off and won't let me log in...
Quote from: SssBella, Oracle of DoomQuote from: Guido FinucciQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerSERMON TIME.
Sweet!
Hurray!
It's up.
Quote from: HotsumaRoger's Sermons: the Michael Jordan of the "or kill me forum"
<blush>
Rev Roger,
Doesn't have his own line of sporting goods, though.
Quote from: AnonymousQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDThe most disgusting thing is that the military environment by its very nature, encourages people who will do that sort of thing voluntarily, to sign up to it. Reinforces the same type of mental patterns through hazing and the masonic lodge mentality, and runs anyone who stands up against all this shit through the wringer.
You want to talk about getting to those responsible for this? You've got to kick the shit out of about 10,000 people then, maybe more.
Not true. I was in the infantry for 10 years, and this type of crap would NEVER have been tolerated.
This is a BREAKDOWN in discipline, not a RESULT of discipline.
Ok I stand corrected. You'll have to forgive me, I think I left my maddison avenue head on when I left the house this morning. Usually I'm careful to hold the thought that the news is news only because it's bad.
Kill your TV.
Or kill me.
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: AnonymousQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDThe most disgusting thing is that the military environment by its very nature, encourages people who will do that sort of thing voluntarily, to sign up to it. Reinforces the same type of mental patterns through hazing and the masonic lodge mentality, and runs anyone who stands up against all this shit through the wringer.
You want to talk about getting to those responsible for this? You've got to kick the shit out of about 10,000 people then, maybe more.
Not true. I was in the infantry for 10 years, and this type of crap would NEVER have been tolerated.
This is a BREAKDOWN in discipline, not a RESULT of discipline.
Ok I stand corrected. You'll have to forgive me, I think I left my maddison avenue head on when I left the house this morning. Usually I'm careful to hold the thought that the news is news only because it's bad.
Kill your TV.
Or kill me.
*Kills his TV*
Quote from: St. Trollax, ODDQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: AnonymousQuote from: The Good Reverend RogerQuote from: St. Trollax, ODDThe most disgusting thing is that the military environment by its very nature, encourages people who will do that sort of thing voluntarily, to sign up to it. Reinforces the same type of mental patterns through hazing and the masonic lodge mentality, and runs anyone who stands up against all this shit through the wringer.
You want to talk about getting to those responsible for this? You've got to kick the shit out of about 10,000 people then, maybe more.
Not true. I was in the infantry for 10 years, and this type of crap would NEVER have been tolerated.
This is a BREAKDOWN in discipline, not a RESULT of discipline.
Ok I stand corrected. You'll have to forgive me, I think I left my maddison avenue head on when I left the house this morning. Usually I'm careful to hold the thought that the news is news only because it's bad.
Kill your TV.
Or kill me.
*Kills his TV*
For real. Kill the fucking thing.
No...
I'd prefer to make the international news, live, and give the whole fucking western world a serve about they way we treat different cultures and hide behind a thin veneer of sophisticated concern. Yeah sure. They may be made of carefully chosen words these days, but the pointed hoods and white cloaks are becoming more and more distictive...
::Throws TV outside into the trash bin::